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hammie Posted on 24/06/2020 21:47
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McCarthyism is the practice of making accusations of subversion or treason without proper regard for evidence. The term refers to U.S. senator Joseph McCarthy (R-Wisconsin) and has its ... The United States backed anti-communist forces in Greece and China. ... See also: Smith Act trials of communist party leaders.

Found this on Wiki seems pertinent right now
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BilltheCat Posted on 24/06/2020 21:50

witch hunts and all that

 
How?
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Warhead Posted on 24/06/2020 21:51

witch hunts and all that

 
What?
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cunninglinguist Posted on 24/06/2020 22:29
Edited On: 24/06/2020 22:30
witch hunts and all that

 
Witch? [8D]
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hammie Posted on 24/06/2020 23:52

witch hunts and all that

 
accusations without pertinent evidence

A man loses his job for hiring a plane to fly a message over a football game

the police confirm that no offence was committed
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BilltheCat Posted on 25/06/2020 00:24

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He loses his job because his employer doesn't want to be associated with a racist - or his partner!

Not sure of your reference to The House Un-American Activities Commission, though, hammie.

Can I recommend "The Crucible" by Arthur Miller?
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yellowcheesemonkey Posted on 25/06/2020 08:15

witch hunts and all that

 
Like a good witch hunt..
flaming torches, pitchforks and all that.

According to the witch hunters bible, best test of whether someones a witch is apparently measuring their weight against a duck.

"Wood floats on water, as do ducks. Therefore, if the person weighs the same as a duck, they must be able to float on water, which means they are made of wood, and consequently must be a witch."
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exgaffer Posted on 25/06/2020 10:32

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Nope his employer has caved to the baying Twitter and media mob and wishes to appear ‘woke’.

A man losing his livelihood is a big deal Billy, or don’t you think so ffs?

If there is no crime there should be no punishment, at least in a ‘free’ society that would be the case.
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smirnoffexpress Posted on 25/06/2020 10:42

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You forget Gaffer, it is also a crime if you do or say anything that goes against anything that the polytechnic revolutionary's believe in.
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cunninglinguist Posted on 25/06/2020 14:00

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A man's livelihood is extremely important, it's true. Why then jeopardise it by doing something that was intended to provoke?

A business has it's own criteria to live by too. I think I would defend the right of any business to avoid publicity that would cause it damage. Not the fault of the business that these people have outside agendas.
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Isaac-Hunt Posted on 25/06/2020 14:07

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Polytechnic revolutionaries...thats a new one
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exgaffer Posted on 25/06/2020 14:25

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Cunning, it is unacceptable for a business to sack someone on the grounds that they made a statement which is obviously true.

If one organisation says ‘black lives matter’ and this then becomes the mantra of the media, then it is surely fair that someone should be able to say, without fear of reprisal that ‘white lives matter’.

It’s the same thing as when cartoonists are slaughtered by barbarians. Rather than condemn the barbarians for their actions, the powers that be attack the cartoonists for their provocation. The media then runs scared and won’t publish any similar material, thereby showing the barbarians that savagery pays dividends.

I saw the following sentence in a book I’m reading, which sums it all up:

‘A gap clearly exists in Sweden as elsewhere across Europe between what people think and what they believe they are meant to think’.

The employers of this bloke have sacked him for fear of being accused of ‘wrong think’. You actually have a 1984 situation where members of the public grass people up to their employers for holding the wrong views. That person is then ‘cancelled’.

This is appalling and we must resist it. They will come for you in the end, the left first eats its opponents, then it eats itself.

What a really awful country this is becoming. If all those brave allied lads waiting to board the landing craft on D day, could have had a glimpse of the future (here and in the USA), they wouldn’t have got on the boats would they? ‘Feck that’ they’d have said, I’m not risking my life for the likes of them.

The rule of law is being replaced by the rule of the blinkered, uneducated, pitch fork waving, flaming torch carrying, mob.

A new Dark Age is upon us.
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dsmg Posted on 25/06/2020 14:31

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Gaffer, you’ve gone from it being a fantastic country to an appalling one in about 5 days (or 120 posts) [xx(]
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Isaac-Hunt Posted on 25/06/2020 14:33

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But nobody is saying white lives don't matter are they.
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Soul_To_Squeeze Posted on 25/06/2020 15:11

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The lack of understanding on this board from some is hilarious, just because you don’t agree with something doesn’t make it right or wrong. FYI, I’ve said it on another thread on the same thing, he’s bringing the company name into disrepute, whether or not he has committed a crime is irrelevant. He’s used racist language on social media and been in the press saying he says silly things when he’s coked up. He only has himself to blame I’m afraid. It’s got nothing to do with the company being woke, it’s to do with them not wanting to be associated with him. People get fired all the time for stupid XXXXXX they put on Facebook, isn’t the first and won’t be the last.
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smirnoffexpress Posted on 25/06/2020 15:46

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So working on that premise, should Priyamvada Gopal be sacked for saying that white lives do not matter?
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Soul_To_Squeeze Posted on 25/06/2020 16:56

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And for saying abolish whiteness? Absolutely. Regardless of the context that she has subsequently added after the event, it’s a pretty dumb thing to say, especially considering the current tensions. As a professor, surely she should have known better, she should have had the clarification as part of the original tweet, not an afterthought when people rightly got upset
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smirnoffexpress Posted on 25/06/2020 17:12

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What she said she said, personally I do not believe that she should be sacked. She should of course be challenged on what she said, particularly to ensure context. If she is truly a white hating racist(which I doubt) then and only then should her role In educating young minds be questioned.
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Louis-of-England Posted on 25/06/2020 17:23

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Found it on wiki, top top research then. I wonder if there were any truths in what McCarthy was saying. The Soviet defector called Yuri Bezmenov certainly seemed to think so 30/35 years later
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Soul_To_Squeeze Posted on 25/06/2020 17:27

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I agree, I don’t think she’s a white hating racist, just think the wording and timing from someone with more than a bit of intelligence was ill thought out. Not the best publicity for such a prestigious establishment.
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cunninglinguist Posted on 25/06/2020 17:30

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I have a certain amount of sympathy for your argument, Gaff, if the individuals have not presented any racialism before.

Don't get me started on soldiers going to war. They have no choice and very little understanding of what is going on. Cannon fodder the lot of them.
If a politician chose to go to war himself, I'd have a great deal of respect for the cause.
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exgaffer Posted on 25/06/2020 17:45

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Well that’s not quite true is it Cunning.

It is especially not true now, as we have a professional army that people choose to join.

In WWII a lot of people signed up to fight against Hitler and Fascism, so that was a conscious decision on their part.

Strangely enough, I’m just in the process of framing my old grandad’s medals from WWI, which I inherited from my dad. I spoke to my grandad about the war before he died and he signed up voluntarily too. He ended up in Mesopotamia (modern day Iraq) fighting the Ottoman Turks. It sounded like hell but he signed up for Dad’s Army in WWII, so it must have been in his blood.

I’m too old now anyway but I would never have fought overseas. If the UK was being attacked that would be a different story of course.

The UK will not be invaded but it will change fundamentally in the next 50 years by virtue of differing birth rates. Islam will probably take over by stealth and Britain will never be the same again.
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hammie Posted on 25/06/2020 20:06

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Billy the Cat
ref The Crucible.
I played the part of The Reverend Hale so know the work quite well and it too is most relevant to crowd and mob rule being a most dangerous thing. And we need to be very careful where it will lead
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smirnoffexpress Posted on 26/06/2020 09:10

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Upon doing a bit of casual research I was wrong. When you scratch beneath the surface and find that among other things said and written. Priyamvada Gopal is a vile, white hating racist of the worst kind.
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TheSyrup Posted on 26/06/2020 10:15

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Another individual trying to turn this country into the XXXXXXhole that her ancestors came from.
I would love to see a crowdfunding page on behalf of the lad who got sacked asking for £1.
He would be worth millions by the weekend.
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smirnoffexpress Posted on 26/06/2020 12:14

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Mate, I have got a seriously thick skin but reading some of the things she advocates opened my eyes. When someone is that they need the white race eliminated to achieve their aims you get an idea of just how sick some agendas are.
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