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wonderwhy Posted on 24/06/2020 17:44
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THE Burnley fan behind the 'White Lives Matter' banner has been sacked from his job.[V]
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exgaffer Posted on 24/06/2020 17:45

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I’d like to be a fly on the wall at that employment tribunal ffs.
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Louis-of-England Posted on 24/06/2020 18:02

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Who is going to contact the Burnley forum, and ask if there is a crowd-finding page?


gaffer?
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smirnoffexpress Posted on 24/06/2020 18:53

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So the spiteful left wing coonts get their way again. No law broken but their pound of flesh is still sought and delivered. Well done to the lad and I hope that a fund is set up, I will certainly contribute.
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BilltheCat Posted on 24/06/2020 19:48

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"THE Burnley fan behind the 'White Lives Matter' banner has been sacked from his job".

I imagine the picture of him cuddling Stephen Yaxley-Lennon didn't do him any favours.
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dsmg Posted on 24/06/2020 20:16

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Louis, the crowd-finding page is quite pertinent at the moment
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wonderwhy Posted on 24/06/2020 20:23

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I imagine the picture of him cuddling Stephen Yaxley-Lennon didn't do him any favours.
I would rather have my photo with Tommy than Jeremy Corbyn ,the terrorist loving cnut.
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exgaffer Posted on 24/06/2020 20:26

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You mean the very old picture of him cuddling Stephen Lennon BTC?

Why should that affect someone’s employment ffs?

The statement ‘White Lives Matter’ is not a criminal statement, so there are no grounds for action against
this man.

I hope he sues the crap out of everyone.

How can it be that football clubs and the media can make a political statement, but people who don’t agree with them cannot?

This is like fecking East Germany before the wall came down, you’d have been a natural there BTC.
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smirnoffexpress Posted on 24/06/2020 20:45

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He was cuddling Tommy Robinson? I didn’t see that but fair play the Burnley lad has gone up in the estimation of another couple of million decent people.
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BilltheCat Posted on 24/06/2020 20:51

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"Why should that affect someone’s employment ffs?"

I don't know.

Maybe if your girlfriend is a racist and you're also pictured with a racist people might assume, ipso-facto, that you are racist, too. Not a problem unless you're a high-profile racist. In which case your employer might not want you connected with the company.

Still, I'm sure you'll all contribute to his crowd-funding page so he won't go hungry. [^]
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Soul_To_Squeeze Posted on 24/06/2020 21:04

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It’ll be to do with bringing the company’s name into disrepute. Whether he’s guilty of a crime is irrelevant, if he can be traced back to where he works, which he obviously can, then they have every grounds to fire him. Probably got more to do with the use of racist language on his Facebook page and admitting he says silly things when he’s coked up than the banner incident alone.
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cunninglinguist Posted on 24/06/2020 21:08

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Totally understand what you are saying, Bill, but the fact is that he hasn't broken the law by doing what he did. If he'd written 'White lives matter more than black lives', then there would perhaps have been a case.

His intent is probably clear but thinking and doing are two different things.
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smirnoffexpress Posted on 24/06/2020 21:08

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The man calling himself Tommy Robinson is many things, not all good, but show me one racist act that he has committed then Billy boy. Just one to back up your claim.
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muschi Posted on 24/06/2020 21:28

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billys not only obsessed with black men.
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BilltheCat Posted on 24/06/2020 21:32

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Errr......setting up and leading the EDL?
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stubs Posted on 24/06/2020 21:35

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Cunning. Civil law is different to criminal law.
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smirnoffexpress Posted on 24/06/2020 21:38

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Don’t mumble Bill, show evidence of the mans own racist behaviour. The establishment aided and abetted by your lot have hammered him for ten years. Even they cannot find the evidence of racism that would finish the job that they started on him.
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BilltheCat Posted on 24/06/2020 21:38

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"billys not only obsessed with black men".

Strange Fruit?
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muschi Posted on 24/06/2020 21:41

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you are indeed a strange fruitcake
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smirnoffexpress Posted on 24/06/2020 21:43

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He is a typical blinkered, left wing hypocrite.
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exgaffer Posted on 24/06/2020 22:16

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Tommy Robinson may be many things but racist is not one of them.

He grew up in Luton ffs and lots of his mates were black or Asian, funny old racist that.

People like Billy take the lazy route and go along with the image of him put out by the authorities and the media.

I read his book ‘Enemy of the State’ the other day, he has been his own worst enemy at times but he has been treated appallingly by the police, judiciary and courts. He has been harassed by them all his life and jailed for the most ridiculous things. Anyone who thinks the British justice system is fair should look at how he has been treated. It shames us as a nation and negates any criticism we might level at other countries.

He also gave a speech at the Oxford Union which is worth a watch.

Of course he has been banned from everywhere and effectively silenced by the ‘machine’, such is the state of free speech in 1984 (oh sorry, 2020).

Of course Billy wouldn’t know any of this, he’s too busy spewing unsubstantiated bile at people.

Would you call him a racist to his face then a Billy? 😎
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BilltheCat Posted on 24/06/2020 22:21

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"Of course Billy wouldn’t know any of this.......would you call him a racist to his face then a Billy?"

I know all of this, and yes I would - though bearing in mind his record of violence I might take a step back!
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cunninglinguist Posted on 24/06/2020 22:28

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I would have to bow to your seemingly superior knowledge then, Stubs.

Does that flaw my point?
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TufnellChimes Posted on 24/06/2020 22:30
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Guff, Gerry Adams also gave a speech at the Oxford Union. Does that now make him ok in your book?
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muschi Posted on 24/06/2020 22:30

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Come on Gaffs billy boy is a keyboard warrior, doubt he's ever done a thing in reality.
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cunninglinguist Posted on 24/06/2020 22:33

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Did you read something all the way through, Gaff?

That's a first.
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BilltheCat Posted on 24/06/2020 22:40

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"jailed for the most ridiculous things".

Travelling to the States on another man's passport? Mortgage fraud? ABH?
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stubs Posted on 24/06/2020 22:49

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Criminal has to be proven
Civil/employment law. Reasonable doubt evidence as likely to have happened
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cunninglinguist Posted on 24/06/2020 22:58

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Ok, got that.

Does that flaw my point?
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exgaffer Posted on 25/06/2020 08:20

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I’m glad you mentioned the mortgage ‘fraud’ BTC, the ‘offence’ was minor and not one that would normally result in prison.

You seem happy for thousands of people to just walk into the country with no passport at all, so I’m surprised you would bring up the passport thing 😁. Obviously a daft thing to do but if he hadn’t been jailed for trivia he could have travelled on his own passport.

The ABH also was something that would not normally result in jail.

Then there was the bogus ‘contempt of court’ charge.

You didn’t answer my question about calling him a racist to his face. I suspect we all know the answer to that.
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cunninglinguist Posted on 25/06/2020 08:27

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Gaffer shockingly proves he doesnt read everything..........

'Of course Billy wouldn’t know any of this.......would you call him a racist to his face then a Billy?
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smirnoffexpress Posted on 25/06/2020 09:33

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Still waiting for that proof Billy boy, you called him a racist, now prove it.
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jezzer Posted on 25/06/2020 10:20

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Interesting thread. So we now know that poor Tommy Robinson is a misunderstood, tortured soul, a well meaning multiculturist who knows alot of black and asian people so therfore can't be racist. He's done some bad stuff but who hasn't and it's all so unfair because the system is against him. He never threw the first punch and if he should be up for anything, the Nobel Peace Prize would be more appropriate.

Also revealing is the fact, that Ex Gaffer, well known for his relunctance to ever reveal his sources, let's slip that he has read Tommy's book, or at least some of it. He's free to read what he likes of course but he then uses this information to try and justify some of TR's actions - it's his biography, manifesto and principle sales pitch ffs, what do you think he is going to say? I'm a loathsome bigot with serious behavourial issues? You like to use the word brainwash Gaffer and it looks as though you have been.
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exgaffer Posted on 25/06/2020 10:20

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Mr perfect Cunning.

OK, so I didn’t read all the way through the thread, I hold my hands up ffs.

I don’t believe he would by the way.

Anyway he has zero evidence that Robinson is a racist, which is the real point here.

Now go and nit pick somewhere else ffs 😎.
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smirnoffexpress Posted on 25/06/2020 10:34
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Jezzer, congratulations son, that was world class sarcasm. However it was also utter bilge because while pointing out that he is far from perfect(something I conceded right at the beginning) you showed no actual evidence of any racist behaviour or even talk from him. He is spot on with Islam and he will be proved dead right on the rape gangs once the Government grow a pair and release the finding of their own enquiry into it.

Tuffers old chap, comparing him with Gerry Adams is ridiculous. Only one of them was involving in killing people with bullets and bombs. So its hardly comparing like with like is it.
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jezzer Posted on 25/06/2020 11:01

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The whole idea Smirnoff is that he can't be seen to make any racist comment otherwise he's finished - and he is intelligent enough at least to know this. I don't believe the likes Stalin, Hitler and Pol Pot, to name 3 random despots, actually killed anyone with their own bare hands but yet were reponsible for the death of millions. Same logic applies with Robinson He applies the narrative while his lackeys and followers do the manual work.
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smirnoffexpress Posted on 25/06/2020 11:30

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[cr][cr][cr]so its mere assumption......you lot are out with the fairys mate.
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cunninglinguist Posted on 25/06/2020 11:43

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So, Gaffer, you don't believe that Billy boy would call the man a rascist (even though he stated he would) but you believe everything Tommy says in his book.

I haven't read it, by the way.

Did you manage to get all the way through?

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smirnoffexpress Posted on 25/06/2020 12:39

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I got all the way through it and very illuminating it was. Our political elite/establishment, the Police, judiciary and left wing pressure groups have all conspired to ignore the normal rules within the English common law system.
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oct_63 Posted on 25/06/2020 12:44

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Whether TR speechs/tweets etc are 'racist' or simply 'hateful' towards people, based on 'stereoypes', is irrelevant, as their content is equally as dangerous and vile. Just because he never publically criticises people by their colour but instead for their country/region or religion, whether this be the Middle East, Indian Subcontinent or people of a certain religion, this doesn't mean that he isn't racist or that his speeches/tweets aren't either. There's a political technique, called 'dog-whistling', which utilises the ability to appear non-racist in order to hide racist sentiments. A lack of obvious racial hatred doesn't mean someone or something is racist. TR cleary judges the worth of a person by their racial looks.
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PompeyLor Posted on 25/06/2020 12:55

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"I'd personally send every adult male Muslim that has come into the EU over the past 12 months back tomorrow if I could. Fake refugees." Stephen yaxley-lennon. Sounds a bit racist. Just Google Tommy Robinson race tweets.

No taking sides coz I'm not saying anything of note anymore. Other than only a knob attracts that much dislike.
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exgaffer Posted on 25/06/2020 12:55

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Cunning, I read the book AFTER finding out how badly he has been treated. He is welcome to speak in other countries, unlike here where he is treated as an outcast. Free speech my ‘arris. All the relevant facts are checkable, why don’t you try doing it?

Yes I did read all the way through it, it’s not the greatest work on the planet but you wouldn’t expect it to be. I was surprised to learn that he had finished an apprenticeship as an aircraft engineer and run some fairly successful businesses. Hardly the knuckle dragger portrayed in the British media.

I don’t think Billy boy would call him a racist to his face, and the ‘step back’ comment tended to confirm that.

I can find no evidence that Tommy Robinson is a racist. He doesn’t like Islam because he has seen what it’s done to his home town. That is not a racist viewpoint and is shared by very many black and Asian people.

I don’t like Islam either, or Catholicism or any number of other fairy tales. They sew division, teach people to believe utter nonsense and cause people to value the mythical ‘next life’ more than this. They are the cause of almost all wars and we would be FAR better off without them.
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exgaffer Posted on 25/06/2020 13:00

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Tuffers, I don’t like Gerry Adams but he has been an influential figure.

That being the case, and being an advocate of free speech, I think he should be allowed to address whoever he likes.

People who are invited to speak at the Oxford Union are all impressive, you don’t have to agree with all of them though.
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Bangers_and_Biff Posted on 25/06/2020 13:04

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“I know all of this, and yes I would”

So we can now add Liar to BilltheFakes ever growing list of inadequacies.
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cunninglinguist Posted on 25/06/2020 13:36

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Gaffer, we obviously share a dislike for religion. Its controlling and it's been used for centuries, by those in power, to divide people.
In my view, the adherents of religion are not necessarily the enemy, the religion is. I don't actually know that many muslims. The ones I have met have seemed very pleasant people who just want the same things we do. I have met some very unpleasant, so called, Christians who I wouldn't give the time of day for (I've never met Tony Blair but he would be added to that list).
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smirnoffexpress Posted on 25/06/2020 14:17

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Oct63....he does not judge them by their racial look. He criticise an ideology behind their religious belief. The followers of Islam come from every race and country on the planet. Are we not allowed to criticise a religion or an ideology?
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exgaffer Posted on 25/06/2020 15:55

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Cunning we agree then.

I’ve met and worked with quite a few Muslims, some of them were great, some were not.

I have nothing against Muslims, just Islam. I have nothing against Christians, just Christianity.

I think you and I take people as we find them, which is as it should be.
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oct_63 Posted on 25/06/2020 15:56

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Smirnoff....We must question any religion or ideology, where their purpose is to go against western values (just a minor piece of dog-whistling!). However, TR has transgressed with what many see as acceptable behaviour. You could say that he's damaged goods with his past, and perhaps he still has associated ties to extreme rightwing groups/political parties both here, in the UK, and widely throughout Europe. We cannot ignore his social media, where he has often 'stereotyped' and, consequently, made judgement. IMO. Further to which, who finances these same groups/parties? But, that digresses.........
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