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Gulf_of_Tonking Posted on 08/10/2019 20:10
31st October then
 
 
[:O]
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tricky_ricky_pfc Posted on 08/10/2019 20:47

31st October then

 
Weíre all going champagne drinking on the 1st Gulf, you coming?
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TufnellChimes Posted on 08/10/2019 20:51

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Don't pop too soon Ricky, I reckon Dim+Dom may still have something up their (wizard) sleeve.
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Gulf_of_Tonking Posted on 08/10/2019 20:52

31st October then

 
Where will you be drinking?

Port Solent, Gunwharf, old Portsmouth - or under South parade pier?
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Cressers Posted on 08/10/2019 20:53
Edited On: 08/10/2019 20:54
31st October then

 
Not if the EU decide to hold us hostage for yet more taxpayers' money in the dwindling hope a GE might deliver a Remainer coalition.

But if there's no hope of reaching an Exit Deal, there's no reason to grant another A50 extension.
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tricky_ricky_pfc Posted on 08/10/2019 21:57

31st October then

 
Ask Syrup, heís organising it.

The pi.ss up that is, not Brexit........or maybe he is [:O]
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yellowcheesemonkey Posted on 09/10/2019 07:59

31st October then

 
"under South parade pier"
Thats where Bexit was dreamed up wasnt it?
After a few cans or Brew..or was it Tennants Super? [:D]

Anyway.. thats good stuff for stopping you popping your cork too quick anyway
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Gulf_of_Tonking Posted on 09/10/2019 16:00

31st October then

 
looks like it's on, but it might get delayed 3 months.


Merkel and Cummins have played blinders
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GRUMPYDELLDAYS76 Posted on 11/10/2019 08:28

31st October then

 
Leaving the EU will break up the Union,take the Great out Britain,the United out of Kingdom,give us a new flag losing the Union Jack across the world.
Still everything will be alright when we have our independence from those nasty Europeans and have our trade deal on WTO terms and Trump will see us alright,give me strength to injure.
Not saying the EU is perfect but its better to be within and trying to make it better than outside trying to get a deal.
Not sure I could handle the thought of Boris,Jacob Rees Mogg,Priti Patel etc smirking at getting a deal through that would so damage this great country.
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yellowcheesemonkey Posted on 11/10/2019 08:40

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If the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland does break up,
can we have a new anthemn for England instead of that dirge used now?
I would suggest Jersulem , which has the drawback of being literrate and tuneful, so its noticable if someone cant sing [:D]

Further, if England breaks down into federated regions, wheres the capital of wessex going to be?
I propose bulldozing scumpton, burying it under 60 foot of concrete and building a new capital there.

We could build the new public bogs on the site of grumpys house
or maybe a pony stables in tribute? [:D]
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exgaffer Posted on 11/10/2019 08:40

31st October then

 
Iíll remind you of this in a couple of years time when we are thriving and the Union is still intact Grumpy 😁.

You have been watching the mainstream media too much and not done any research of your own.

You are perfect ĎProject Fearí fodder.

If you donít like the government we end up with you can help vote them out, something you canít do with the EU Commission.

Iím looking forward to applying for my nice new blue passport 😎.
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pompeyhighlander Posted on 11/10/2019 09:29
Edited On: 11/10/2019 09:39
31st October then

 
Gaffer prefers propaganda churned out from Russian fake news factories to the "MSM".
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GRUMPYDELLDAYS76 Posted on 11/10/2019 09:59

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I hope you are right,exgaffer.
Done plenty of research of my own.
Good luck with the nice new passport and the queues.
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Bluestow Posted on 11/10/2019 10:22

31st October then

 
ĎResearchí

Research isnít just browsing the internet for alternative views.
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TufnellChimes Posted on 11/10/2019 10:54

31st October then

 
Gaffer, give us something to look forward to then. Imagining, for a moment, that it actually happens, what will be the actual tangible benefits to us, both immediately and about a year in. What are the things that will make us all say "wow, Gaff was right all along"? In the last three years we've seen sterling devalued 18% and spaffed billions up the wall on this, so give us maybe six great changes that will have made this whole upheaval worthwhile.

Bullet points are fine.
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twoteefus Posted on 11/10/2019 12:31
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31st October then

 
I can't see a deal happening despite the noises coming out of discussions today. Last throw of the dice by Cummings, sorry, I mean Boris. Number 10 won't find a legal way to go out with no deal and will be prevented by Parliament/Courts from doing so.

So I predict we won't go out on the 31st. After a vote of no confidence we'll have a interim government, most likely headed by Corbyn. We'll be given an extension to the middle of next year. I doubt there will now be an election before Christmas, most likely be sometime in the New Year.

Doubtless having lost enormous political capital the Tories will have to promise a second referendum based on no deal or remain to stop haemorrhaging votes to the Brexit Party/UKIP. Labour will promise a referendum on a new deal or remain, Lib Dems will be outright remain.

Mass MP walkout from one nation Tories, may even set up a new party.

Chances are hung parliament with Corbyn likely to be PM as part of a coalition. Possibly the days of majority party parliaments have already come to an end.

In the end if there is a second referendum we'll vote to stay in the EU. It's practically inevitable given the logistics of changes in the voting demographic in the last 3 years (leave deaths versus younger remain voters becoming eligible to vote mean the circle of life itself gives a swing big enough to change the outcome by itself).
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Cressers Posted on 11/10/2019 13:05

31st October then

 
The FTPA stipulates that following a VNC, the government has 14 days - I'm assuming parliamentary working days - to win a new vote of confidence or a GE takes place. The 'Rebel Alliance' have already given up on any hope of a 'Government of National Unity' and probably rue the fact they didn't go for an election in early September. But they didn't, and now they're running out of options, as well as probably resigned to a WTO Brexit.
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muschi Posted on 11/10/2019 13:32

31st October then

 
Except it seems someone is blinking in brussels.

Not sure who but they are entering "a period of intense negotiations"

Not sure what deal boris is proposing as all I hear about is getting round the irish problem, what about all the other flaws in may's deal?
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twoteefus Posted on 11/10/2019 13:41

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Cressers - Sorry but that is simply not the case.

Regarding a VNC - it depends how it is worded, it does not have to trigger the event laid out in the FTPA. Lord Norton of Louth explained why and this was reported in many papers.

If it does trigger the rules laid out in the FTPA then there are 14 days allowed for someone, anyone - not just the current government, to form a government that can gain a confidence motion in the house.

It's also not true to say a national unity government has been discarded as discussions are still ongoing about that between the opposition parties.
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Bangers_and_Biff Posted on 11/10/2019 13:56

31st October then

 
Itís so embarrassing that youíre a Pompey fan.
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Cressers Posted on 11/10/2019 14:46

31st October then

 
If the EU are suddenly negotiating in good faith, it is only because they have no faith in the HOC being able to stop an NDB or believe a GE will go their way.
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Deebo Posted on 11/10/2019 15:03

31st October then

 
I think it's all a total FU and I CGAF about the whole thing.
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TufnellChimes Posted on 11/10/2019 15:10

31st October then

 
Sounds like the DUP are going to get thrown under the bus. The Irish Sea becomes the border, as Johnson follows the party preference for Brexit over the Union.
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Cressers Posted on 11/10/2019 15:16

31st October then

 
Well if you sup with the Devil... They saw what happened to the Lib-Dens.
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twoteefus Posted on 11/10/2019 15:19

31st October then

 
Bangers and Biff - as you posted under my post I assume you mean you think it's embarrassing I'm a Pompey Fan. If not I apologise in advance.

So Pompey fans can't read newspapers and other news sources, take an interest in politics, form a reasonable argument? Perhaps we can have some guidelines to weed out undesirables from the fan base.

Honestly I am mortified. I see the error of my ways. I'll start going to St Mary's instead. [rle]
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Bangers_and_Biff Posted on 11/10/2019 15:54
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31st October then

 
Iím afraid youíve not surprisingly misunderstood but please start going to St.Maryís anyway as youíre definitely more suited to them.
Thanks
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twoteefus Posted on 12/10/2019 00:23

31st October then

 
Oh boy are you going to be upset my name is on the board outside the South Stand not once, but twice. [cr]
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