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muschi Posted on 03/10/2019 11:35 So the Boris "deal" | |
| thoughts? | |
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northstandgeorge Posted on 03/10/2019 11:44 So the Boris | |
| It's hardly any different to May's deal. Its replaced the backstop with 2 borders knowing full well neither the EU or parliament will agree to it. This enable him to try to push through no deal, placing the blame on either the EU or parliament when it goes pear shaped. | |
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yellowcheesemonkey Posted on 03/10/2019 11:47 Edited On: 03/10/2019 11:48 So the Boris | |
Dont know if its good or bad..have a strange feeling it wont satisfy either hard core no deal brexiteers or revoke remainers ![[:D]](../../../../images/smilies/grin.gif) And i think everythings probably gone to far now for taht deal to be completely acceptable to those who are only into soift core versions of those positions. I do know though, that a border check is a border check , wahtever mayonaise or worcester suace you pour over it As Abe Linclon one said: "How many legs does a dog have if you call his tail a leg? Four. Saying that a tail is a leg doesn't make it a leg." | |
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muschi Posted on 03/10/2019 12:28 So the Boris | |
| Not sure of anything at the moment due to lack of detail. However I am impressed with Boris in the current HOC questioning. Very statesmanlike and showing the rest of the rabble what they are. | |
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jezzer Posted on 03/10/2019 12:46 So the Boris | |
| Who needs detail? It's only the future of the country that's at stake. | |
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islander67 Posted on 03/10/2019 12:59 So the Boris | |
| A continuation of his proposed deal has to be agreed by Stormont. FFS, Stormont hasn’t sat for years! | |
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jimmyjames Posted on 03/10/2019 13:38 So the Boris | |
| well the ERG and DUP have endorsed it, so it must have some differences to the May deal. Whether the EU agree to it though is entirely another matter, but it does appear in its current form that there is a majority in the Commons for it so progress. | |
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woodstock222 Posted on 03/10/2019 14:04 So the Boris | |
| Boris could come up with a cast-iron, gold-plated bomb-proof deal and still Corbyn and those two poisonous witches Sturgeon and Swinson would still say no. There is barely a way through all this without a General Election which casts the SNP and Lib Dem's adrift in the open ocean. As for Corbyn the Marxist, hopefully the electorate would be aware of the danger that would be created by electing him to become PM . | |
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yellowcheesemonkey Posted on 03/10/2019 14:12 Edited On: 03/10/2019 14:30 So the Boris | |
| "those two poisonous witches Sturgeon and Swinson" "By the pricking of my thumbs, something wicked this way comes." Macbeth.. yeah i see the similarity with Boris -power crazed, stab hime freinds in the back to become ruler btw: Just thought the posionous witches comment was funny i couldnt give a monkeys one way or anothe about brexit anymore (never could) As an ex-pat i get advantages and disadvantages from it leave/remain. Far more important things in my life.. Like wondering how i could gte my aroogant mother F**ker of a boss sacked -TBF hes racist against everyone, not just Brits. More so since brexit -blames me personally And TBH hes arrogant because he's from Dublin D4 but just in tha same way someone posh from Tunbridge Wells is The more you travel the more you relaise that if someones a cont, theey are a cont -whetehr maale, female, martian, gay, straight, hanging watever, pink, blank ,green etc | |
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Cressers Posted on 03/10/2019 15:12 Edited On: 03/10/2019 18:14 So the Boris | |
| I think the DUP and ERG are onside because they know full well this is just a plot to run the clock down. It must be obvious there is no way of renegotiating a WA and getting it approved by both the the UK and EU parliaments in less than a month. And have you noticed how silent the 'Rebel Alliance' have become regarding tabling a vote of no confidence? Why, you'd almost think they'd suddenly realised they hadn't got the numbers to carry it... | |
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Gulf_of_Tonking Posted on 03/10/2019 15:28 So the Boris | |
| I thought Boris can have a vote of no confidence in himself, or get one of his mates to do it? | |
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yellowcheesemonkey Posted on 03/10/2019 15:58 Edited On: 03/10/2019 16:00 So the Boris | |
| "I thought Boris can have a vote of no confidence in himself, or get one of his mates to do it?" Boris can get the tory party to put a vote of no confidence against him. But it will probably lose. The same poeple who have been voting againts him will cxarry on doing do. The 'Rebel Alliance' is hestitating using the no confidence force againts teh Boris 'Death Star' because they would have to form an interim government until an election. Labour is insisting Jezza as temprary PM but Liberals and most of teh independnat rebels wont swallow that. Thye want someone with cross party support like cuddly ken clarke to ask for an extension and call an election. You have to remember Jezzer is really a brexiteer -he was his whole backbench career ..now he's swallowing party policy. But he only cares about power really -brexuit doesnt really bother him depsite the party line he's forced to spout in public | |
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Cressers Posted on 03/10/2019 16:23 So the Boris | |
| The way the FTPA works is that once a government has lost a VNC they have fourteen days - I assume working parliamentary days - to hold another vote reaffirming the Commons' confidence or the largest opposition party - Labour - then can attempt to convince the Queen they can form a government. There lies the problem: The PLP won't allow their chance of power to be passed to a Jo Swinson led 'national unity' administration. | |
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Isaac-Hunt Posted on 03/10/2019 17:12 So the Boris | |
| This was suggested before but DUP et aL didn't want NI treated any differently than the rest of the UK. DUP in massive about turn | |
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smirnoffexpress Posted on 03/10/2019 17:44 So the Boris | |
| It is all a tiresome prelude to us getting what those in Parliament actually wanted all along. That being, we stay tied in economically and politically to the EU. | |
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Isaac-Hunt Posted on 03/10/2019 17:47 So the Boris | |
| Sigh | |
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SS_BLUE Posted on 03/10/2019 18:49 So the Boris | |
| I see the haters are out in force again. Brexit is a like a religion for some on here. As for being | |
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smirnoffexpress Posted on 03/10/2019 19:08 So the Boris | |
| “Haters”? Go then I will bite, hate what. | |
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Farehamisblue Posted on 03/10/2019 20:27 So the Boris | |
| The London metropolitan bubble. | |
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SS_BLUE Posted on 03/10/2019 20:31 Edited On: 03/10/2019 20:31 So the Boris | |
| Anyone who is not a flag waving little Englander who still thinks Britain is great etc. | |
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smirnoffexpress Posted on 03/10/2019 20:33 So the Boris | |
| So who is a little Englander and how have you arrived at that assumption? | |
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tricky_ricky_pfc Posted on 03/10/2019 20:44 So the Boris | |
| Given the Irish PM (or whatever they call him), has said there can be no additional checks at all on the island of Ireland, there’s only really 3 options, soft Brexit, no Brexit, or no deal (which will of course result in additional checks). Boris’ deal seems like a reasonable compromise, but looks like it’s dead in the water before it even gets started. | |
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smirnoffexpress Posted on 03/10/2019 20:56 So the Boris | |
| Remainer MPs have already put a legal block on a no deal exit. All they have to do now is ensure that all and any proposed deal is voted down and there is, surely, only a remain option available. It has been their strategy from the start. While they started off playing along with “we must abide by the result of a democratic vote” game. Now they are that emboldened that they are not even trying to disguise their actions. | |
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muschi Posted on 03/10/2019 23:44 So the Boris | |
| That may be true but the ace up the sleeve is a general election. Either a no confidence bill or more likely boris will get a short extension leading to a GE. Most likely a con / Brexit party large majority followed by a no deal exit. Little England rules and don't forget slinging insults means you've lost the argument. | |
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islander67 Posted on 04/10/2019 00:24 So the Boris | |
| “Boris this, Boris that”. It’s cringeworthy. What’s wrong with just calling him Johnson, although even that’s too good for that egomaniac. | |
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cunninglinguist Posted on 04/10/2019 12:32 So the Boris | |
| I'm sure it isn't the first time I have asked it but can anyone tell me how life will improve after Brexit? Keep hearing about the difficulties but......... | |
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yellowcheesemonkey Posted on 04/10/2019 13:13 So the Boris | |
| "“Boris this, Boris that”. It’s cringeworthy. What’s wrong with just calling him Johnson" Well Johnson is slang for a Penîs so it would be apt | |
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Bangers_and_Biff Posted on 04/10/2019 13:55 So the Boris | |
| SSBlue, You were asked a legitimate question by Smirnoff in reply to your arrogant post so are you going to answer him or are you as I suspect way too thick. | |
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scouse Posted on 04/10/2019 15:53 So the Boris | |
| Whereas sausage isn't even linear. He has no dimensions at all. A point source emitter of complete rubbish. | |
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same_old_pompey Posted on 04/10/2019 15:56 So the Boris | |
| Sausage is the Mark Francois of this board for sure. | |
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Bangers_and_Biff Posted on 04/10/2019 16:39 So the Boris | |
| I got a reply from two of the mice one more to go. | |
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Dunstablue Posted on 04/10/2019 22:42 So the Boris | |
| I thought the teapot would be a great name for a mayor of Yorkshire | |
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TufnellChimes Posted on 04/10/2019 23:10 Edited On: 04/10/2019 23:19 So the Boris | |
| Hi Savzzz, can’t be sure but I’m guessing I’m your third obsession. Soz about your Halloween celebrations - looks like they’ve been dampened by a bucket of Barnier’s pi$s - strong stuff. After recent events I predict Cummings is going to convince Johnson to kill himself and thus push through Brexit on the sympathy vote. It’s becoming the only way. | |
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exgaffer Posted on 05/10/2019 08:53 So the Boris | |
| With or WITHOUT a deal Tuffers. If we ignore a referendum result just to appease a load of hysterical sore losers, we become tin pot. A supporter of the left probably finds that to be OK, fortunately the majority of the electorate do not. There will have to be a General Election at some point and it will e carnage for those who betrayed their voters. Jezza and his merry band of incompetent, laughable Trots will disappear without trace. I can't fecking wait 😁. | |
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MiltonMick Posted on 05/10/2019 09:32 So the Boris | |
| Northern Ireland is sitting pretty with this deal, it's going to be a check free transition area between the UK and the EU and firms will flock there. Boris' idea on NI Agriculture being Irish but the farmers British opens a can of worms and it will be exploited fully. How can NI farmers compete against the rest of Ireland when they lose their EU farm subsidies (or will they if they're Irish). One of the main cornerstones of Brexit was control of our own borders, this deal sees us leaving the back door well and truly open. The only thing keeping the Tories in power is Corbyn, if Labour had a leader with non of the baggage that Corbyn carries they would be in power now. | |
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cunninglinguist Posted on 05/10/2019 16:07 So the Boris | |
| I'm sure it isn't the first time I have asked it but can anyone tell me how life will improve after Brexit? Keep hearing about the difficulties but......... | |
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Gulf_of_Tonking Posted on 05/10/2019 16:18 So the Boris | |
| Why is it that a lot of people struggling with life at present have voted for Brexit? | |
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cunninglinguist Posted on 05/10/2019 16:41 So the Boris | |
| Are you struggling, Gulf? Is Gaff having a hard time? Syrup tells us he's living the life. | |
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