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TheSyrup Posted on 08/09/2019 19:25
Oi Smirnoff
 
 
If the people voted either leave or remain in a constituency,should the local MP cast his vote in Parliament in line with what his constituents voted.
Maybe we were right all those years ago when trying to get Portsmouth out of Hampshire and making our own laws.The way MP,s are behaving now is in line with that idea.
Interesting thought
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TufnellChimes Posted on 08/09/2019 19:54

Oi Smirnoff

 
No bites. You need to try a different type of maggot.
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TheSyrup Posted on 08/09/2019 20:33

Oi Smirnoff

 
Talking of maggots and up pops one
Cometh the hour, you know the rest you Mug
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TufnellChimes Posted on 08/09/2019 21:48

Oi Smirnoff

 
whatevs. Zzz.
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smirnoffexpress Posted on 09/09/2019 05:30

Oi Smirnoff

 
First and foremost they should honour the result of the referendum. It was a countrywide vote, and the WHOLE country VOTED to leave. This is no longer just about Brexit, it is about accountability to the electorate and democracy. We, the people, have watched our servants in Parliament not only ignoring the vote but actively working to overturn it. If things carry on as they have we are heading down a dangerous road. When our elected servants ignore a national mandate from the people they set us on the road to totalitarianism.
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tihkal77 Posted on 09/09/2019 07:42

Oi Smirnoff

 
For ‘whole’, read ‘just over half’ - of those who voted.
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TheSyrup Posted on 09/09/2019 08:46

Oi Smirnoff

 
Mr tickle are you clucking again,a majority is 50% plus 1.
If leaving the eu proves to have been the wrong decision,then the government of the day could and should have a referendum to join.
I personally liked the arrangement of being in the eu when it was a trading block but it has morphed into something that is completely different and these major decisions were taken without any consultation whatsoever on what was coming down the road.
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Bluestow Posted on 09/09/2019 09:41

Oi Smirnoff

 
Even when one party wins an election they still have to take account of the views of the whole country, even those who didn’t vote for them. That’s the role of the opposition parties. Fifty percent +1 doesn’t give the winning side a blank cheque to implement anything they want. I voted remain, the vote went the other way and the vote has to be respected. But there are many ways to leave and it should be in a way that reflects the interests of the whole country.

The debate has now morphed (been deliberately manipulated) into the dangerous situation we have today. Ordinary decent people on both sides of the debate are now being drawn into sharing intellectual space with vile extremists.

Moderation and tolerance have been the soul of this country and I hope it’s enough to stop us replicating 30’s Germany.
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TheSyrup Posted on 09/09/2019 10:12

Oi Smirnoff

 
Absolute nonsense and as for black shirts being on the streets,trust me there are plenty of us willing to get their hands dirty to deal with the likes of them lot.
If the vote for Remain was 50%plus 1,it would have been enforced as you well know and as much as I would of been disappointed I would have had to get on with it.
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Bluestow Posted on 09/09/2019 10:37

Oi Smirnoff

 
Glad to hear it.

If the vote had gone 52/48 to remain Farage himself said it would be unfinished business - ie not resolved.

Obviously easy to say now but if the vote had gone 52/48 to remain we would stay in but I think there would have had to be some changes and reassessment to address the concerns of people who wanted to leave. Seems reasonable.
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Bangers_and_Biff Posted on 09/09/2019 13:24

Oi Smirnoff

 
Moderation and tolerance have been the soul of this country and I hope it’s enough to stop us replicating 30’s Germany.

Drama queen.
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tricky_ricky_pfc Posted on 09/09/2019 14:06

Oi Smirnoff

 
The reason we’re not currently out of the EU is because a load of ultra Brexiteers in parliament voted against May’s deal.

Most of them represent leave constituencies.

But they’ll argue that May’s deal wasn’t what the public voted for. You can’t possibly surmise or guess what people voted for, that’s ridiculous, the referendum was flawed because it wasn’t clear what version of “leave” people were voting for.

In fact, May’s deal is probably closest to what the leave campaign promised i.e. preserve frictionless trade while taking control of borders and laws.

When Cameron started talking about leaving without a deal, the leave campaign dismissed it as project fear, and claimed the EU would be falling over themselves to do a deal.

But now it seems no deal is what people voted for?

You couldn’t make it up.
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TheSyrup Posted on 09/09/2019 14:38

Oi Smirnoff

 
That’s not quite true Governor.,
It was said on numerous occasions that You will be voting to leave the European Union and all its institutions. You have to laugh and it will get much worse,all of what’s happened has been fantastic for the plebs in that our politicians have been shown as totally incompetent,self serving liars and hopefully going forward the plebs will be more politically aware.
Hopefully it’s a start and the Lords should be next as they truly are just as bad.
Vote 657
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Bluestow Posted on 09/09/2019 16:07

Oi Smirnoff

 
I’m not so complacent as you are. Who’d think we’d be in this level of crisis a year ago.
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TheSyrup Posted on 09/09/2019 16:24

Oi Smirnoff

 
They obviously think they are untouchable even after the expenses fraud.
The way they behave,would you be happy to pay their wages...oh we are
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smirnoffexpress Posted on 09/09/2019 18:16

Oi Smirnoff

 
There are many reasons why Teresa May’s so-called deal was not accepted to lay the blame entirely at the door of the Brexiteers in Parliament does not tell anything like the whole story. Maybe Teresa the appeaser did not want a deal in the first place. Maybe she only brought a so called deal back that would be unacceptable to everyone. The deals she brought back were unacceptable to anyone that had visions of leaving the EU, because we would have still been tied in. The only real reason that we are our current predicament is that we have a commons with a majority of remainer MPs. That not only disagreed with the vote but have also colluded amongst themselves as well as with their counterparts In Brussels to ensure that we stay in. All else is merely smoke and mirrors. They are in short, treacherous, self serving scum and if anyone is even trying to defend their actions then they miss the overriding point.
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tihkal77 Posted on 09/09/2019 18:57

Oi Smirnoff

 
...Which is that it’s a pretty even split in a divided country. All the more so more so since the gaining of majority of a number of remain-leaning kids and the passing of some die-hard leavers. So trying to find something appropriate - in terms of workable compromise isn’t really that much of an intellectual stretch to want to achieve. Is it?

Crashing-out with nothing was the ideological wet dream of a statistically small set of swivel-eyed extremists. I’m not happy being their jizz sock. Are you?
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TheSyrup Posted on 09/09/2019 19:16

Oi Smirnoff

 
Relying on kids ffs
76% of them couldn’t be bothered last time.
You need some mogodon geez.
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smirnoffexpress Posted on 09/09/2019 19:43

Oi Smirnoff

 
Which is, that a vote was taken and a majority voted to leave. Not hard to take onboard surely.
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Bangers_and_Biff Posted on 09/09/2019 20:24

Oi Smirnoff

 
Oh but it is for them.
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smirnoffexpress Posted on 09/09/2019 20:39

Oi Smirnoff

 
A vote, incidentally,in which around 58% of the citizens of our fair City voted to leave. How many new kids will it take to turn that one around.
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TheSyrup Posted on 09/09/2019 20:55

Oi Smirnoff

 
Oi Tufnell
They are biting now you fcuking Turdpecker.
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Bangers_and_Biff Posted on 09/09/2019 21:03

Oi Smirnoff

 
I’m surprised at how many effeminate posters there are on this forum and coincidentally they all seem to be remainers.
I don’t ever remember Pompey having this many effeminate supporters.
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smirnoffexpress Posted on 10/09/2019 19:56

Oi Smirnoff

 
Point one, I am not biting merely passing comment[:P] Point two remainers have the backbone of a jellyfish, testicles the size of garden peas and the scruples of a pickpocket.
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Bangers_and_Biff Posted on 10/09/2019 20:06

Oi Smirnoff

 
and the mental capacity of Mr Blobby.
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TufnellChimes Posted on 10/09/2019 20:46

Oi Smirnoff

 
Point One: You bit yesterday.
Point Two: From his last appearance on Loose Women, Mr Blobby revealed himself as a Brexiteer - when asked whether the UK would be harmed by leaving the EU without a trade agreement, a translator acting on behalf of the big pink thing said "“He says it will be fine because the EU tariffs are currently remitted to the EU so it makes no difference,”
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smirnoffexpress Posted on 10/09/2019 20:50

Oi Smirnoff

 
I can assure you that I did not bite. As a card carrying sociopath I do not do emotion. [:D]
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BilltheCat Posted on 10/09/2019 20:58

Oi Smirnoff

 
You did emotion when you flounced off the Board not so long ago! [rle]
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smirnoffexpress Posted on 10/09/2019 21:05

Oi Smirnoff

 
Sorry I do not do flounce. However I do have the occasional withdrawal back into the real world that stops me from visiting XXXXXXwit magnets such as web world.
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BilltheCat Posted on 10/09/2019 21:45

Oi Smirnoff

 
(Flounce) [;)]
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TheSyrup Posted on 11/09/2019 13:51

Oi Smirnoff

 
Point no 1
The thread was for Smirnoff about something the local election in pompey in 87 and how it is possibly ahead of its time.We now have MPs saying that they are only willing to represent their local constituents and not the overall party line.
The fact that other people have chosen to comment is up to them.
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smirnoffexpress Posted on 11/09/2019 18:17

Oi Smirnoff

 
[:D] I took your point, as stated the people of Pompey voted as a city to leave by 58% , a good bit higher than the national 52%. The MP for Portsmouth North seems to have recognised this and has voted accordingly in Parliament. The MP for Portsmouth South has not, what is his excuse, other than the fact it does not reflect his own personal feelings. The coont is a disgrace.
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Bangers_and_Biff Posted on 11/09/2019 19:23
Edited On: 11/09/2019 19:32
Oi Smirnoff

 
All these MP’s and effeminates banging on about Boris and what he’s doing as being anti democratic.
It was ok to be anti democratic when it suited you though wasn’t it.
Bunch of fvkin hypocrites.
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scouse Posted on 11/09/2019 19:34

Oi Smirnoff

 
Hang on, if 58% of Pompey voted leave, that means 42% of Pompey must be quite intelligent.

That's higher than I would have said, but there you go.
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Gulf_of_Tonking Posted on 11/09/2019 19:44

Oi Smirnoff

 
Here is the info you were after

Population with no education
12.82% Liverpool Garston
22.47% Liverpool Riverside
12.92% Liverpool Walton
27.61% Liverpool Wavertree

Large numbers. You're not from Wavertree are you?

Link: Without Education - UK
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motowner Posted on 11/09/2019 19:45

Oi Smirnoff

 
That is great coming from the thickest ScXXXXXX ReMONGer living South of the sh!thole of Merseyside [}:)]
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smirnoffexpress Posted on 11/09/2019 19:46

Oi Smirnoff

 
Alternatively, we might well have 42% of our city’s population over using da herb.
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Bangers_and_Biff Posted on 11/09/2019 19:52

Oi Smirnoff

 
That’s the first time I’ve ever seen a scouser try to be clever.He failed but you’ve got to give him credit for trying I suppose.
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scouse Posted on 11/09/2019 20:02

Oi Smirnoff

 
Not many of that 42% round here.
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Gulf_of_Tonking Posted on 11/09/2019 20:05

Oi Smirnoff

 
At least you were smart enough to head south when you had the opportunity. Warmer weather, better countryside, more jobs, higher wages, and nicer houses. Well done.
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Bangers_and_Biff Posted on 11/09/2019 20:09

Oi Smirnoff

 
I think he lives in the middle of Hilsea roundabout.
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TheSyrup Posted on 11/09/2019 20:11

Oi Smirnoff

 
Scousers are nothing but whinging outcasts and that is a fact.
Its always everyone else’s fault for their plight in life which is built on thieving and expecting everything for nothing.
Sign On with hope in your Hearts just about sums them up.
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Bangers_and_Biff Posted on 11/09/2019 20:14

Oi Smirnoff

 
Don’t see that many female tramps about it must be tough.
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smirnoffexpress Posted on 11/09/2019 20:18

Oi Smirnoff

 
I did find 42% surprising forPortsmout as a whole. I did not think that we had that many deluded, middle class, polytechnic socialists living amongst us.
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TheSyrup Posted on 11/09/2019 20:41

Oi Smirnoff

 
It appears so or it could be postal voting fraud.
I am absolutely convinced that the result was nowhere near 52-48 and more like 75-25.We are over 3 years on from the referendum and I don’t think I have met more than 30 remain voters.
Any thoughts on this probable conspiracy.
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smirnoffexpress Posted on 11/09/2019 20:55

Oi Smirnoff

 
You certainly used the correct word with conspiracy. We are not a democracy, no matter what those that rule us would tell us. We are however, in a position , after two hundred years of political and social evolution, of maybe becoming one. If we are not railroaded towards the totalitarianism that those pushing the agenda of the EU want. Make no mistake, there is a conspiracy. One that involves the Political Classes on both sides of the channel. This is not merely an attempt to keep us in the EU. It is a tipping point, stay involved and within a hundred years Orwell’s vision of 1984, will have come home with a vengeance. It is no longer about how you voted. It has become a battle to the death. The winners will not be those that stay or leave, that is now a sideshow. It is about what sort of lives we wish our descendants to be living. Those of us that voted either way count little as individuals, as do the political elite carrying out their masters bidding. We need to recognise whilst we are all squabbling amongst ourselves the globalists behind it all are laughing their nuts off.
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TheSyrup Posted on 11/09/2019 21:49

Oi Smirnoff

 
That is exactly why I voted for leave, the 1% of of the worlds richest people are totally driving this globalist agenda throughout the world which has created a race to the bottom and a massive movement of the worlds population (who can blame them) driving down wages.
I personally like some of corbyn ideas on renationalisation of key parts of the people’s everyday needs.I just know that he isn’t anywhere near intelligent enough to make it happen and he is totally surrounded by total fcukwits.
And what amazes me is that all this renationalisation is contrary to eu rules.
The Referendum has been fantastic as it has polarised the ineptitude of the political classes and you are now getting people challenging what is being said.
But the best or worst thing that has happened whether you voted leave or remain is the fact that YOUR VOTE counts for Nothing and they are not listening.
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same_old_pompey Posted on 11/09/2019 22:02

Oi Smirnoff

 
"1% of of the worlds richest people are totally driving this globalist agenda throughout the world which has created a race to the bottom and a massive movement of the worlds population (who can blame them) driving down wages"

Right, so why is making this country even poorer going to benefit us? Remember 1%ers are pushing Brexit for their own gain.

Also, with reference to "your vote counting for nothing"...the facts are from the start Boris said we'd get a XXXXXX good deal, we'd never leave with no deal and everything would be done sensibly.
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TheSyrup Posted on 11/09/2019 22:14

Oi Smirnoff

 
Your not intelligent enough mate for this topic but thanks for your thoughts anyway 👍
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TufnellChimes Posted on 11/09/2019 23:31

Oi Smirnoff

 
Syrup, if state-owned railways are contrary to EU rules. How come a lot of our rail lines are already owned by EU state railways?

You’re probably already aware of this so I’ll list it just for the benefit of the casual reader:
c2c: Italian state
Chiltern: German state
CrossCountry: German state
East Midlands: Dutch state
Eurostar: French state
Gatwick Express: French state
Grand Central: German state
Great Northern: French state
Greater Anglia: Dutch state
London Northwestern Railway: Dutch state
London Overground: German state
Merseyrail: Dutch state
Northern: German state
Scotrail: Dutch state
Southeastern: French state
Southern: French state
Stansted Express: Dutch state
Thameslink: French state
Transport for Wales: French state
West Coast: Italian state
West Midlands Railway: Dutch state

That’s the Tories and their TakeBackControl dog whistle bøllocks.
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motowner Posted on 12/09/2019 11:48

Oi Smirnoff

 
Scouse said "Not many of that 42% round here"

There is even less in that sh!thole you hail from .... why don't you do us a favour and fark off back there yfc!
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Bluestow Posted on 12/09/2019 13:19

Oi Smirnoff

 
The other week you were talking up your wealth - you do realise you are one of the global 1% don’t you.
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tricky_ricky_pfc Posted on 12/09/2019 13:28

Oi Smirnoff

 
“Your not intelligent enough mate for this topic but thanks for your thoughts anyway”

You’re

Sorry moosh, couldn’t resist [:D]

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TheSyrup Posted on 12/09/2019 16:18

Oi Smirnoff

 
Sorry about the grammar guv,nor I was tired.I have been laying the workforce off all day 😎 just because I can.
Note to self ...Must do better.
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