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Isaac-Hunt Posted on 05/09/2019 17:34
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Smith is back double ton.
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hammie9 Posted on 05/09/2019 22:31

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they have taken the ashes seriously and prepared properly. thye have kept their fast bowlers fit by getting them playing proper matches and then rotating them. We let fitness experts train our fast bowlers in everything but actually bowling and now have almost all of them injured for the rest of the year. oh and our administrators have put proper cricket at the bottom of the list, played in spring and autumn.
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BettySwallocks Posted on 06/09/2019 07:26

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too much emphasis on white ball cricket; the ashes are already gone, as is this test match all over probably by lunch Saturday
what a big disappointment and worst of all no footie
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Isaac-Hunt Posted on 06/09/2019 10:21

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All set up for a Bothamesque finish.
All out cheaply,follow on,score 400 and bowl Aussies out for 100 Stokes taking 10 for 20.

Couldn't happen could it.
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yellowcheesemonkey Posted on 06/09/2019 11:01
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"All set up for a Bothamesque finish.
All out cheaply,follow on,score 400 and bowl Aussies out for 100 Stokes taking 10 for 20" "

[:D]
If that happens ..
I Would say i will run round naked and even kiss a scummer but thats risky -you never know with Stokes [:D]

If it did happen, sod just giving Stokesy a knighthood - a public holiday should be created in his honour on his brithday to Saint Ben
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Isaac-Hunt Posted on 07/09/2019 12:48

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28 to avoid follow on 2 wickets left
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Gulf_of_Tonking Posted on 07/09/2019 13:38

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If they can get the extra 19 runs, and maybe get another 20 or 30- I reckon the game will be a draw.


If Anderson had been fit for this series, it would have been very different.
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Isaac-Hunt Posted on 08/09/2019 17:32

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Why did AUstralia declare their second innings..very sporting
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hammie9 Posted on 08/09/2019 17:34

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too many players sitting comfortable in the middle order letting the newbies do the hard yards at the top of the order. Take the gloves off bairstow and make him learn to defend his stumps and get some proper regular runs.
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Jamtomorrow Posted on 08/09/2019 19:08

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Need to refocus now on Test Cricket instead of one day get rid of Roy he isn't a test batsman take captaincy away from Root he hasn't been the same since his captaincy. The last match is a good opportunity to blood some new players we are desperate for a couple of good opening batsmen.
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sometimeshappy Posted on 08/09/2019 19:35

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Lots of good sloggers but hardly any good batsmen. As a regular watcher of County Cricket the cupboard is bare.
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Gulf_of_Tonking Posted on 08/09/2019 20:05

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It's difficult to comprehend how the selectors have got so many things wrong. They have to give some good youngn's some time in the top 2 or 3 and develop them. How they kept picking Roy for the top 4 is beyond me, they need an opener, if they do pick him, play him at 5 or 6.

Why did they play both Butler and Bairstow. Both have been well under par this series. Why did they drop Woakes?

And Root needs to be relived of the captaincy. Give it to Broad. But they won't because he's a bowler. Mental.


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hammie9 Posted on 08/09/2019 22:18

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happily they have begun to shake up the backroom staff. Compare Australia; Langer and the like, hard bitten test veterans to us choosing the likes of Ramprakash who never made it at the top level. I'd try and get Nasser to take it on, he helped turn the team around from losers to hard to beat.
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kingo Posted on 08/09/2019 22:38

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In my experience of cricket, bowlers think about the game, batsmen just bat. So Broad may not be such a bad choice.
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muschi Posted on 08/09/2019 22:54

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Some interesting thoughts here.

I agree with the captaincy issue, Root is a fine batsman but a captain he isn't. Noteable it was not Root giving the pep talk today but the
man almost turned the series around, Ben Stokes. He is my choice for the job with Broad vice captain. Le Butler comming in at 8 is crazyt Joe concentrate on scoring runs.

There are positives, Denley looks half decent and should be given a decent run in the team. I like leach and if you need a night watchman he is your man. Mind you I think night watchmen are a prehistoric tactic. Butler coming in at 8 is crazy and Archer has a lot to learn but is strictly an 11 when batting.

But in summary we lost to one man, Smith, never seen the likes of him but Roots tactics helped methinks. Smith is unique, I blame the jerky moves on the sandpaper he keeps in his underpants beyond that he is brilliant.
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yellowcheesemonkey Posted on 09/09/2019 08:16
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Denly -if he stays -then to number 3
Root -to 4 -cant bat 3.. as much in his head i think
Root -agreed on the captaincy. But as much in thta its f**ked up his form and Englsnd dont have enough good batsmen to alow that.
Stokes -Captain. About the only player guaranteed a place, young enough and fit enough to do so otehr than Root.
Woakes -dropping him for Overton was just a throw back ro the bad old days of 2012/12 ashes and the big bloke who bounces things idea. Curran would have been a better bet,
Woakes is probably Jimmys long term replacement.
Bairstow/Butler -cant have both in team. Bairstow flawed and been found out.. Butler just one test hundred. Last year was an abberation to general form.
Roy,. Nope. And tyring to change his technique could mess him up for ODI
Moeen. I know. But 5th test oval. second spinner, In form again. Drop Buttler or Bairstow. Moeen at 6.
Fokaes -just a shame they cant gte the best keepr i have seen for years into the team.
Theyre not going to dsroip Barirsow and Buttler.
Sibley. On IMHO Opener next test. Young and talented. Alkways promising but this season matured dragging Warwickshire away from relegation.
Used to be solidish and good on teh eye but this eason he's batted like Boycott at times.



Positives
Archer. Yep. Pace. Fitness.
Leach. Yep. Proper spinner and has a personality.
Burns. Yeah. Not perfect. But think best bet at opening since Carberry was unlucky to only play the Aussies in a messed up England team on a terrible tour.

Future.
Openers -Sibley see above. Rhodes his warwickshire opening partner maybe. Zak Crawley -probably but give him a season more. The young lad at glamorgan whose name i cant remember -want to see if he can do it in division one but looks good.



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Deebo Posted on 09/09/2019 09:44

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Muschi - agree with everything you've written here.

Re Smith I would like to have seen Curran have a go at him. Anything that is different would help instead of feeding the same shot time after time. Anyone who walks across their stumps pre-delivery has got to be vulnerable somehow.
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muschi Posted on 09/09/2019 10:08

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Strangely I said to blueshark Root should have a bowl against smith a short time before he did...
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blueshark Posted on 09/09/2019 12:52

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Yellowcheesemonkey, think Pope should be now involved as well. Buttler out Pope in. Curran as well, we miss his accuracy & he's a completely different option from all our other bowlers. Overton for me is just a inferior version of Toby Roland Jones from a few years ago.
Root & the captaincy as Muschi says doesn't work. He's too slow to see when its going wrong. I also think he was instrumental, being one of the selectors, in the JA fiasco. Then saying Jimmy passed all the fitness tests afterwards to cover his XXXXXX. Sorry Joe but you got sentimental about JA & that wont do. Stokes for me is the outstanding candidate or Broad. Get Root back to doing what he does best, scoring big hundreds.
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Gulf_of_Tonking Posted on 09/09/2019 18:54

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Same side announced. Amazing.

I would have swapped Curran for Buttler.

my concern over Stokes being captain is putting pressure on one of the star man. He can assist Broad - and Broad has a real cricketing brain. Giving the captaincy to Root when he had just turned 26 was ridiculous.
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sometimeshappy Posted on 09/09/2019 19:10

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Unchanged squad as opposed to unchanged team leaves scope for a couple of changes to the final 11, not that will make much difference to the match outcome.
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Gulf_of_Tonking Posted on 09/09/2019 19:27

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oooh, missed that.
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bpay123 Posted on 11/09/2019 13:17

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The issue with taking the captaincy off Root is who replaces him? I certainly would not be putting that burden on Stokes as our best player, Broad is an interesting suggestion but how much longer has he really got left. Burns? Is he even guaranteed a place.
Buttler was only at 8 because the night watchman going in at 3 (Overton).
Leach cannot be picked because he did ok as a night watchman , he was picked for his spin bowling and looks ordinary at best.

The issue is and the reason the likes of Roy are getting moulded into trying to be a Test cricketer is that our county game is so far behind international cricket its laughable. They play in april and then again in September, the standard is a lot poorer and no one is setting it alight.

I don't blame England with sticking with the same squad and just soaking up the rest of the series. My team going forward -

Sibley
Burns
Stokes
Root
Bairstow
Foakes
Curran
Woakes
Archer
Broad
Leach
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Gulf_of_Tonking Posted on 11/09/2019 18:01

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If they think that Leech, Curran and possibly Overton are the real deal, are the future - they should be playing them. Mind you, do we want to lose the next test to the Ozzies. I would keep Foakes, and drop Curran for Butler, and play Roy at No4 - now he has a massive 31.
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Gulf_of_Tonking Posted on 12/09/2019 16:54

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186-5. So now they are relying on Curran and Butler to help out the top order who have collapsed again. I can't believe they can't see that they need another top order batsman.

So, as soon as Roy starts to improve - they drop him, and keep Butler who hasn't improved at all.
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Deebo Posted on 15/09/2019 12:14

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Broad 7 Warner 0

Faf
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muschi Posted on 15/09/2019 12:16

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Next 60 minutes decide the series methinks. Smith and lambrusco batting.
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Deebo Posted on 15/09/2019 12:46
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Lambrusco's had his cork popped. Smith double ton and still loses the match?
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muschi Posted on 15/09/2019 12:57

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Shhhh
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wonderwhy Posted on 15/09/2019 16:46

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completely immaterial match
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Ghost_of_DeepBlue Posted on 15/09/2019 16:56
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Immaterial ?? it's the difference between drawing the series and losing it FFS.

Who keeps the trophy in the event of a draw is a secondary issue, admittedly an important one but without that it is a test series like any other and it's certainly better to draw than lose any series.
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Bedblockers Posted on 15/09/2019 19:43

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I enjoyed this series tbh. Obviously the bowlers dominated the series with a very high standard on both sides. As has been said though, the Aussies without Smith and England win this test series. He is quite superb. But some great matches overall .
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muschi Posted on 15/09/2019 19:54

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This cricketing summer will last long in the memory.
The world cup high drama, the Ashes excitement amd for the south coast in addition the scummer derby game.

Whats not to like?
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Deebo Posted on 15/09/2019 20:16

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Yep, it's been fantastic, sat in the sun in the garden listening to brilliant commentaries on TMS all summer. As a bonus even managed to get the end of the Headingley game on the phone in the US. Great stuff.
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muschi Posted on 15/09/2019 22:30

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One thing puzzles me, when will Leach bowl his hat trick ball?
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Deebo Posted on 16/09/2019 05:04

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Aha. Good point. I would say it would have to be against Aus in a test so some time in Nov 2021 at the Gabba? Allowing for the fact Jack 'The Nut' Leach hasn't been replaced by a young gun like Amar Virdi at Surrey. Personally I would keep Jack for his batting entertainment alone.[:D]
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pfc_blues Posted on 16/09/2019 10:51

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Deep. I agree. The aussies still haven't 'won' in this country since 2001.i was quite surprised how much they seemed to celebrate and focus on the retaining of the ashes after the 4th test. If it wasn't considered retained and instead shared, then it would have been considered a fantastic summer season for english cricket by everyone.

A lot of changes needed in the batting line up and a replacement for broad when he decides to retire but there is potential.
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blueshark Posted on 16/09/2019 12:17
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Broad is probably good for another Ashes series down under, JA though-pushing 38/39 by then. Personally think Jimmy wont make it. But we have Wood & Olly Stone to add to Archer, Broad & Woakes. Pope will surely get his chance in NZ & I hope he takes it. But the batting does look a bit bare. Denly may just fill in @ opener until a new partner is found for Burns. I think that Bairstow needs pushing, maybe Buttler may make the position his own. He surprised me with the restraint he showed @ times in the last test.
If it goes badly in NZ I think Root may lose the captaincy, probably to Broad or Stokes.
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yellowcheesemonkey Posted on 16/09/2019 13:00
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Opening -Sibley should get a chance.
Could always push Denly down to 3, root to 4.
Dont see the point of both Bairstow and Butler -one as keeper batsman at 6 or 7

In terms of other batsmen -Pope is an obvious.
No one mentions Sam Hain anymore. Its like watching a young Ian Bell. Its only that or 18/19 he looked so special then had a bad year.

Joe Clarke will come into consideration at some point but think the ECB will leave him on the naughty step for a while.

On captaincy -Burns He is absolute perfect England captian material if he turns out to be good enough as a batsman.He is a brilliant captain down at Surrey. All the young players like him and the expereinced players respect him.


On young bowlers.
Keep an eye on young Henry Brookes at Warwickshire. Reminds me of Broad at that age.
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