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TAFKAGDR Posted on 08/08/2018 13:59
The Boris Johnson burka debacle
 
 
Should he be arrested for inciting racial hatred?
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Tomsk Posted on 08/08/2018 14:14
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The Boris Johnson burka debacle

 
As juvenile and un-foreign secretary as it was that sort of language will go down well with the morrons. After all it got Trump elected.
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Stanley-H-Tweedle Posted on 08/08/2018 14:31

Boris Johnson Islamophobia

 
He knows exactly what he's doing and he'll appeal to many in the Tory Party when he challenges May early next year.
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jizzbag Posted on 08/08/2018 14:43

Boris Johnson Islamophobia

 
It's a pretty good description imho. If these people want to walk around wearing anti social garments which depict their oppression by males and their belief in a load of old mumbo jumbo then they should expect to have the mickey taken out of them as well as the suspicion that wearing this type of thing will arouse.
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pompeyhighlander Posted on 08/08/2018 14:50

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Can we commission Boris to write a piece in a similar style about the fashion choices of John PFC Westwood?
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exgaffer Posted on 08/08/2018 18:31

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Come on then, who, hand on heart, doesn’t think they look like letterboxes and bank robbers?

Apart from Stan that is [8D].
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pompeyhighlander Posted on 08/08/2018 18:43

The Boris Johnson burka debacle

 
Once again, I disagree with Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson. Unlike him, I would ban the wearing of the burka in public.
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TAFKAGDR Posted on 08/08/2018 18:52

The Boris Johnson burka debacle

 
I lean towards letting people choose their own clothing.
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exgaffer Posted on 08/08/2018 19:24

The Boris Johnson burka debacle

 
So do I Gilles [8D].
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Stanley-H-Tweedle Posted on 08/08/2018 19:25
Edited On: 08/08/2018 19:31
Boris Johnson Islamophobia

 
Not sure what your average bank robber looks like but I do know letter boxes are red and anyone seeing one that's black should pop along to spec savers. [:X]

Link: Ouch!!
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Isaac-Hunt Posted on 08/08/2018 19:44
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The Boris Johnson burka debacle

 

"I lean towards letting people choose their own clothing."

apart from suicide vests in public places
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TAFKAGDR Posted on 08/08/2018 19:50

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I'm not sure suicide vests really count as clothing, but what an odd comment nonetheless [^]
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Isaac-Hunt Posted on 08/08/2018 19:58

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More deep and meaningful,anyway I am nothing if not odd [8)]
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BabaOReally Posted on 08/08/2018 20:42

The Boris Johnson burka debacle

 
A suicide belt is the ultimate fashion statement. I wouldn't be seen dead in one though...
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smirnoffexpress Posted on 08/08/2018 20:48

The Boris Johnson burka debacle

 
Ban it totally in public. It is not in keeping with my culture.
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exterminator Posted on 08/08/2018 20:51

The Boris Johnson burka debacle

 
Yep ban the burka & hijab totally in the UK in public .. if the froggies can do it so can we.

If you want to wear one in public go to a (middle east mainly) country that allows it and preferably never come back.
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TAFKAGDR Posted on 08/08/2018 20:54

The Boris Johnson burka debacle

 
Ban shoes
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CountVonCount Posted on 08/08/2018 21:34

The Boris Johnson burka debacle

 
And replica shirts. Anyone wearing said item looks ridiculous.
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fuba Posted on 08/08/2018 21:35

The Boris Johnson burka debacle

 
Boris was just saying what he saw. He dislikes having to talk with people who have their faces, and thus identity, covered up. It's dishonest. How can you trust someone who is covering their face in such circumstance?

I think Boris is right in what he said, and he's doubly right for not backing down to the politically correct mob who want him to apologize. Who the hell is he apologizing to?
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CountVonCount Posted on 08/08/2018 21:37

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He should apologise for being a fat cvnt.
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tihkal77 Posted on 08/08/2018 21:42

The Boris Johnson burka debacle

 
How can you trust someone who is covering their face in such circumstance?

Possibly more than you can trust an adulterous, bullschitting chancer with his eyes on the top job?

Politically ‘correct’ by definition is generally preferable to politically ‘incorrect’. I’m sure you follow.
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fuba Posted on 08/08/2018 22:07

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Just like democracy is mob rule, political correctness is the mob view of things. It's politically correct to follow the mob view so you are popular and thus can get democratically elected.

I don't always subscribe to the mob view so being politically incorrect is often a good thing.
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tihkal77 Posted on 08/08/2018 22:11

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As political correctness is posited as a minority view that threatens the very fabric of gammon, I’d possibly disagree that is in fact the mob view.
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Gulf_of_Tonking Posted on 08/08/2018 22:27

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Mob rule could be fun for a while.

My suggestion - once a month a politician would be pelted with eggs near Whitehall.

This of course would slowly turn into options for throwing tomatoes and then soft fruit

Harder fruit next, then light pebbles

Then small stones, then the dreaded pointy stones, then the death requirement for one politician per year

Then death for a politician once a month

Then mix it up with celebrities and bankers, and football managers etc

We would then need to build a new age collosseum
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exgaffer Posted on 09/08/2018 08:12

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Tikhal, it’s a minority view with the full weight of the MSM and political establishment behind it though, so it is, indeed, mob rule.

The fact that one mob is slightly smaller than another mob, doesn’t mean the smaller of the two loses mob status. [:D]

The fact that you can now be prosecuted because of someone’s hurt feelings, or someone else’s perception of their hurt feelings, says it all really.
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TAFKAGDR Posted on 09/08/2018 09:05

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FACT CHECK: "you can now be prosecuted because of someone’s hurt feelings, or someone else’s perception of their hurt feelings"

Result: LIE!
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exgaffer Posted on 09/08/2018 09:11

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Nope, perfectly factual. [:D]

Gilles using the Guardian ‘fact’ checker criteria again.
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TAFKAGDR Posted on 09/08/2018 09:16

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Please feel free to provide any evidence to support your ridiculous claim.
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cunninglinguist Posted on 09/08/2018 09:26

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The various reactions, to Johnson's comment, are quite revealing.

I think Tomsk summed it up rather nicely.
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exgaffer Posted on 09/08/2018 09:39

The Boris Johnson burka debacle

 
Section 4 of the Public Order Act 1986 (POA) make it an offence for a person to use threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour that causes, or is likely to cause, another person harassment, alarm or distress.

Section 127 of the Communications Act 2003 makes it an offence to send a message by means of a public electronic communications network which is grossly offensive, or of an indecent, obscene or menacing character.

Both these 'offences' are so incredibly broad in their definition that they can be (and are) used wrongly by the police.


What offends one person's sensibilities would be totally inoffensive to others. Snowflakes like Owen Jones, for example, take offence at the slightest thing. An extremely religious person might take exception to something said about their particular faith. Prosecuting someone for that would be the equivalent of enforcing blasphemy laws and we haven't long got rid of them ffs.

Over to you Gilles [:D].
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Acheri Posted on 09/08/2018 09:41

The Boris Johnson burka debacle

 
Any man who wants to dictate what a woman wears is a grade A wànker.
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TAFKAGDR Posted on 09/08/2018 09:46

The Boris Johnson burka debacle

 
So not for hurting someone's feelings then?
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PissTake_Peg Posted on 09/08/2018 09:52

The Boris Johnson burka debacle

 
I was looking for the “hurt feelings” phrase in those acts but guess what, it’s not there.
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Stanley-H-Tweedle Posted on 09/08/2018 09:54

The Boris Johnson burka debacle

 
Anna Soubry MP
‏@Anna_Soubry Aug 8

In 16 years at the Criminal Bar I never saw an armed robber who looked like a woman in a #burka Have you @BarristerSecret ?
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exgaffer Posted on 09/08/2018 10:24

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Which bit of 'poorly defined' don't you two get? Taking offence and 'hurt feelings' are one and the same.

You can scoff all you like, but there are people who have had a knock on the door for saying far less than some posters on here. You know who you are [:D].
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Stanley-H-Tweedle Posted on 09/08/2018 10:38

The Boris Johnson burka debacle

 
Anyway back to transfer deadline day

Kate Hoey to UKIP on a free.
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tihkal77 Posted on 09/08/2018 10:49

The Boris Johnson burka debacle

 
Both bits of legislation have a high bar to satisfy before charge, let alone conviction. There’s also this terrible snowflakey human right in art. 10 of the ECHR protecting free speech. It would have to go a long way beyond hurt feelings...
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OhToddyToddy Posted on 09/08/2018 11:07

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Boris just saying what we're all thinking.

But smart move to get himself on the right side of a freedom-of-speech argument this side of a leadership challenge.

Brexit and UKIP voters would prop him up to a solid majority were it a General.
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TAFKAGDR Posted on 09/08/2018 11:24

The Boris Johnson burka debacle

 
Taking offence wasn't in there either. Are you doing this on purpose?
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exgaffer Posted on 09/08/2018 12:09

The Boris Johnson burka debacle

 
Legislation that is written poorly leads to injustice no matter how high the ‘bar’ is. Gilles you are being deliberately obtuse (surely not) [:D], the laws are so vague that ‘taking offence’ most definitely is in there.

If things are left to subjective interpretation it’s not clear what is in there, that’s the whole point [8D].
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exgaffer Posted on 09/08/2018 12:17

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Tikhal, have a look at what ‘Liberty’ have to say about Article 10 and UK legislation.

They have concerns about a number of laws, the two I’ve mentioned and others relating to religion and terrorism.

Free speech is not guaranteed and we need a Constitution to safeguard it if we wish to consider ourselves a free democracy.
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TAFKAGDR Posted on 09/08/2018 12:34

The Boris Johnson burka debacle

 
Can you show some evidence of people being convicted of causing offence or hurting people's feelings? Thanks.
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tricky_ricky_pfc Posted on 09/08/2018 13:26

The Boris Johnson burka debacle

 
Boris must apologise to the people of Portsmouth, and he must do so promptly.
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PissTake_Peg Posted on 09/08/2018 14:12

The Boris Johnson burka debacle

 
BAN THE BERK!!!
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wayno Posted on 09/08/2018 21:30

The Boris Johnson burka debacle

 
Balaclava me up[xx(]
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RavoPFC Posted on 09/08/2018 21:43

The Boris Johnson burka debacle

 
Boris Johnson is a narcissistic, attention seeking thunderf**k. I am almost certain he does not believe a word he said and simply said it for the attention, which wouldn't surprise me in the slightest. People with Attention personality disorders rarely do or say provocative things to get a certain kind of attention, they do it just to get the attention. Whether the attention is positive or negative is irrelevant.
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muschi Posted on 09/08/2018 21:54

The Boris Johnson burka debacle

 
You seem to be describing certainposters on here Ravo..

BTW can i clear up an old point re my naive comment and your patronising reaction a while back?

You had posted about integration and inviting immigrants up the pub etc, wouldn't work with my mate Ahmed across the road what with him being a Muslin anorl.Wouldn't join me in a bacon butty up the cafe either.
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TAFKAGDR Posted on 09/08/2018 22:00

The Boris Johnson burka debacle

 
But that's only because you're a coont.
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muschi Posted on 09/08/2018 22:15

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Boris PM Sir Nigel US ambassador...
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