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VinceSentoff Posted on 14/06/2018 08:17
Edited On: 14/06/2018 08:18Kanu in Russia
 
 
Here he is with other great men.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DfogCghWkAA1-Yd.jpg
Gordon Banks on the far left, where we all should be.



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Isaac-Hunt Posted on 14/06/2018 08:35

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How is it Pele never ages?
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Tomsk Posted on 14/06/2018 08:40

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Nor his wheel chair
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TAFKAGDR Posted on 14/06/2018 08:55

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Black don't crack
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pompeysoulboy Posted on 14/06/2018 11:03

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God bless Pele. The best footballer the world has ever seen,ever. The most gracious/ humble footballer the world has ever seen. The only thing he was never brilliant at was getting it up until he found tablets to sort that problem out.
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TAFKAGDR Posted on 14/06/2018 11:07

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If he had played today he'd be lucky to reach Championship level.
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wonderwhy Posted on 14/06/2018 11:19

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TAFKAGDR your ignorance is beyond belief.
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TAFKAGDR Posted on 14/06/2018 11:29

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I only deal in FACTS. 90% of the players playing in the top flight in the 80s wouldn't get in a PL team today.
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wonderwhy Posted on 14/06/2018 11:33

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I'm afraid that is not a fact but a supposition.you really are an arrsehole ,NOW that is a fact.
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Bluetag Posted on 14/06/2018 11:42
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Fact, ar sehole only has one r :-) and no gap :-)
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Tomsk Posted on 14/06/2018 13:57

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Fact, poor old Pele rocks up (Ok wheels up) in Russia and takes one in the face from Maradonna's dickie
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CountVonCount Posted on 14/06/2018 14:29

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Gilles that golden fishing rod is working wonders. [^]
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TAFKAGDR Posted on 14/06/2018 16:53

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I'm not fishing at all. The fitness levels, strength, speed and technical ability of today's players is just on another level entirely. In the 1970s the Cruyff turn was seen as revolutionary skill. Now lower league keepers routinely do them. Just watch YouTube videos of the period. It's the equivalent of today's women's football.
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kingo Posted on 14/06/2018 19:03

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It's a bit like saying office staff from those days weren't as good as today's, because their computers weren't as fast.
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TAFKAGDR Posted on 14/06/2018 19:23

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No, it's not like that in the slightest. The game of football is the same then as it was now, computers aren't. The difference is the quality of the players.

Our current team would thump our '66 world cup winners. FACT.
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CloakedBuggerer Posted on 14/06/2018 19:51

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Have to agree with Gillian on this one.

Even discounting the superior speed and stamina of athletes today, the knowledge and 'science' of the game is a far deeper business. They have a team of sports psychologists, fitness coaches, defensive/attacking coaches, medics, the facilities and available technology is superior.

Georgie Best would be non league at best.
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Briefcase_wanchor Posted on 14/06/2018 19:54

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Next someone is going to claim that the footballers of today are not brain damaged as a result of heading the ball - which is clearly not true when you listen to the likes of Trippier being interviewed.
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SOPompey Posted on 14/06/2018 20:01

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Giles thinks that Kane could kick a old water logger leather ball 40 yards without pulling a hammie.

Giles thinks Sterling could dribble round players as he does in 3 inches of mud and no grass.

again proving himself to be all insults and no intelligence.

Indictment anyone?

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DeepBlue Posted on 14/06/2018 20:12

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I find the argument that superstars of the past would be unable to train like modern players or respond to the advances in modern technology quite ridiculous. The best players of any generation would still be amongst the best players in whichever generation they played. Different types of players no doubt but they would still rise to the top.

And George Best even then could do anything Messi can now so to suggest he would be non-league standard is absolute bollokcs.
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TAFKAGDR Posted on 14/06/2018 22:57

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Soppy and Deep living on another planet as usual. Just watch videos of matches from the 70s and 80s. The players are literally rubbish.
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TAFKAGDR Posted on 14/06/2018 23:16

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This is what I mean. Just look at all the time and space they've always got and they're still rubbish. Go to 6.17 for the highlight.

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TAFKAGDR Posted on 14/06/2018 23:29
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It gets worst. This is Barcelona. They're definitely on a par with Xavi, Messi, Iniesta and Suarez

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Bluetag Posted on 14/06/2018 23:36

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>Georgie Best would be non league at best.<
Is this game for a laugh or are you on a wind up?

Of course the greats of yesteryear would still be great now, they had natural skill and ability (you cant coach that). With the almost non contact game today, lighter footballs, better diet,boots, kits, pitches etc. They'd still be world beaters.

Some absolute bollix spouted on this thread -FACT
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Gulf_of_Tonking Posted on 15/06/2018 00:12

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Those penalties at the end of the game are the best set of penalties I have ever seen by English teams. FACT. Only the Leeds goalie ruined the sequence.

All of this skill and energy back then despite:
Shiiite pitches
Shiiite balls
Most players playing over 40 games per season - with just one substitute only allowed - truly tiring and less time for personal practice
Players having to sit in Shiiite coaches for hours on end for most away games - truly tiring and less time for personal practice
A lack of undercover training facilities at the time - in a country with shiiite weather - meaning less time for personal practice
Much better TV in the evenings and in the afternoon making personal practice more undesirable
A massive ginger on the pitch (wearing red) - trying to put people off throughout the game
Women at the time being much more attractive - meaning less interest in personal practice
Miles better boozers - meaning less interest in personal practice
loads more boozers - meaning less interest in personal practice
No agents - meaning more time spent chasing the manager for a pay rise - meaning less time for personal practice

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TAFKAGDR Posted on 15/06/2018 00:28

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And that's the exact reasons why the players were nowhere near as good back then.
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Tomsk Posted on 15/06/2018 00:42

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I bet the poncey little scrote Neymar wouldn't fancy being 'marked' by Dave MacKay
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Bluetag Posted on 15/06/2018 08:10

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Norman Hunter V's Ronaldo [:D]
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DeepBlue Posted on 15/06/2018 08:32

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Football may not have been as good technically back then (although many would argue it was at least as good a spectacle), but with the advances in coaching and fitness and tactics the players who rose to the top then would now be so much better than they were back then.

You assertion could only be right if there had been some change in the human body's make up in the past 30/40 years. There hasn't been, just a change in its capabilities as a result of advances in sports science.

It's like saying that if Usain Bolt's records get broken in the 2020's as a result of advances in training that he would have been incapable of the same times if he had been around in the 2020's. There is absolutely no reason to think that he couldn't have been better too.
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TAFKAGDR Posted on 15/06/2018 08:53

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Classic Deep.

The exact reason players in the 60s, 70s and 80s wouldn't get near a team today is because they were not as good technically, were not as well coached, were not as fit and were not as tactically astute.

Arguing that the players were just as good except for the fact that they were slower, weaker and less skilful is accepting that they weren't as good.

If 1962 Pele was transported into 2018 and played in the PL he would be a big a laughing stock as Ali Dia. FACT.
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Isaac-Hunt Posted on 15/06/2018 09:05

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Greavsie would still score a hatful.IMHO
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pompeyhighlander Posted on 15/06/2018 09:38

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On the other hand, football was a wonderful spectacle in earlier decades. It's boring now. Intensive coaching has led to current dominance of set pieces, mobs of players cheating in the penalty box and an almost universal reluctance to play two strikers so as to pack midfield.
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Bluetag Posted on 15/06/2018 10:20

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Think you're well wrong Gilles. Talent is talent. And if we compare like with like by assuming that latter day players had access to todays fitness aids etc then they'd still be super stars.

It's a bit like stating that modern day footballers if they played in the 60/70/80's would be great whereas they'd still be in the reserves because they can't head a leather old school football, dribble on muddy pitches, wear heavy kit and boots and can't tackle or fall over everytime they're tackled, smoke tabs have a pint at halftime or XXXXXX up the day before a game.

To suggest Pele, Best, Cruyff, Eusebio, Muller etc wouldn't be class in todays game is to use one of Gilles' sayings, the words of a dribbling retard. - FACT
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TAFKAGDR Posted on 15/06/2018 10:51

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Talent only goes so far. To play today you need to be fitter, faster and stronger than ever before. Technically, today's players are on a different planet to the cloggers playing back then. Compare the Cruyff turn with some of the skills today's players pull off and it seems incredible that people used to cream themselves over Cruyff. If the 1966 world cup winning team played today's England team they'd lose about 8-0.

If you're arguing that they would be just as good if only they were fitter, stronger, more skilful, technically superior, faster and more tactically astute then you're agreeing with what I'm saying.
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exterminator Posted on 15/06/2018 22:05

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Nobody in their right mind will believe anything you TAFKAGDR say moosh because all of your claptrap is utter sh!te !!

It is impossible to compare any sporting event that happened in different era's - the only thing that can be said is that at that moment in time that particular individuals/team was the best, most skilful, most talented etc etc.

Your argument is irrelevant - like you !!
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pompeysoulboy Posted on 16/06/2018 10:50

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I fully understand Gilles point, greaves was my dads hero in the 60s was he better than lineker, shearer, Owen or Kane? We all grew up watching the best strikers ever. Micky Quinn for England!
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