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PFC23Tommy Posted on 11/03/2018 11:33
How I see it
 
 
I've written the season off as surely we can't get relegated can we?

Have we made any progression though. Did we buy one good young player that's going to help towards the rebuild?

We can't expect to produce performances like that keep such high attendances surely.

Are we happy? I'm not.
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lpblue Posted on 11/03/2018 11:39

How I see it

 
No
No but loans with possible buys in summer
Fans always attend customers dont
Yes survival in this division is fine
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eggybread Posted on 11/03/2018 16:48

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Don't start with all that fans and customers nonsense again.

If you put up with anything and everything without question it doesn't make you a fan, it makes you an idiot.
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jizzbag Posted on 11/03/2018 16:52

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And there's a lot of them around....

Say anything negative and you're a scummer/not a fan/proper supporter!!
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Bluenote Posted on 11/03/2018 17:30

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You don't have to be blue tinted to think that flouncing off 20 mins before the end because we're losing isn't what fans should do.
Proper embarassing seeing all those Gillingham fans waving goodbye as the North Stand emptied.
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portchyblu Posted on 11/03/2018 17:44

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Who drew up these new rules as to who is a fan and who isn’t?
I am 52 years old followed Pompey home and away for 40 years and I will turn up and leave when I want!
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jim2383 Posted on 11/03/2018 17:50

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What's worse? Leaving early or staying till the end and boooing
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stubby Posted on 11/03/2018 17:59

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never booed and embarressed at the supporters who do.I left 3 mins early because I dont want to hear the boos
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DeepBlue Posted on 11/03/2018 19:17

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Portchy .. no-one would deny anyone has the right to boo or leave early, in the same way that no-one could deny that everyone has the right to encourage and stay to the end.

The question is not whether you have the right to do something but which option is better. Better for the team on the day, and/or better for the reputation of the fans. We can't take the XXXXXX out of,for example, Spurs Wembley fire drill if we do the same ourselves, can we ?
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Peter_Mellors_Got_No_Hair Posted on 11/03/2018 20:40

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I think the last few games / weeks are a little bit different from the norm.

With the team we have currently available, and the form shows it, we are relegation candidates.

Now you can argue that, injuries are bad luck, and if you believe that to be the case, then were in a tough situation, and there isn't a lot that can be done other than ride it out and get it over with.

Most fans know that if we go behind (at the moment), were going to struggle. And with that lack of hope, I can understand why some fans leave early, and even why some very frustrated fans boo.

I watch every second, and don't boo. But that's my choice, and others are entitled to make theirs. I have to be honest and say to those that left early, you missed nothing! And there really wasn't much evidence of a fight back.

Generally booing doesn't help, so walking out early seems a more dignified approach to showing displeasure. The one big exception to that, was the Crewe game, which I thought stunned the players into stepping it up, and going on a wonderful run. But i'm not sure its going to have the same effect on the current squad.

The game yesterday, a bit like the season, showed a very promising 1st half, which probably raised the expectation, making the second half that much more disappointing.

Mid table budget should mean expectations of a mid table finish are realistic. A bit of good judgement and luck and you could over achieve. Bad judgement and bad luck and you're going to dip below that.

Currently 12th and with games to go, I fear we are going to slip further down the table (unless we can get Evans, Pitman and Thompson back quickly). But lets wait and see.

The problem, as we all knew, was central midfield, and I think privately, if not publicly it will be known that we got that area badly wrong. The experienced tough leader, who could drag the team along during the tough times was missing. But I don't think the same mistake will be repeated. If it does, there will be a lot more questions being asked.

Permanent transfers; Pitman, Hawkins, Thompson, McGee, Donohue i'd say ok. Pitman and Thompson have done well, Donohue has got stronger, McGee is young, so has made a few errors, but also had good games. Hawkins is a better version than Smith. So I would rate the permanent signings as OK to good.

Loanees - Disaster. However you want to judge it i.e. bad luck or bad signings, bottom line is we have spent a big chunk of our mid table budget on players who have given the team very little, either in terms of games or performances. I dread to think what proportion of the budget some of these guys have taken up. If its bad luck, then the same wont happen next season...surely?

Like most clubs, you have a hardcore who will attend, stay and support no matter what. Maybe we have 5,000 who need the hope, entertainment and results to keep them interested. Regardless of "how great a fan are you" competitions, we really do need the income of those 5,000 for the 23 home games at an average of £20 (say) - £230,000 or 7% approx. of our playing budget.

So please don't frighten them off! Different opinions are allowed.



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PFC23Tommy Posted on 11/03/2018 20:53

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KJ must know that we are just about a relegation standard team so why didnt the Yanks invest a little bit towards the rebuild.
We've been unlucky with injuries but we certainly haven't made any progress this season. I ain't happy I tell you I'm not.
Seriously I'm well disappointed in the zero progress.
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stubby Posted on 11/03/2018 21:39

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230,000 r u sure Mellor
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Bluenote Posted on 11/03/2018 21:54

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I wonder whether people who leave early and/or boo think about the effect on the players. OK - they shouldn't need motivation with their salaries but they're people after all. This is a young squad that is obviously struggling a bit so wouldn't it be a nice idea to..ermm...support? We all know the effect a crowd that is behind their team can have and it works the other way too. North Stand lower must have been half empty 15 mins before the whistle. Obviously everybody has the right to go, stay, cheer, boo or whatever but I've just got this romantic notion that you stick by your team good times and bad. That probably makes me a twit I suppose.
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chrismilanman Posted on 11/03/2018 22:58

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In the 70s we were pants most of the time But I never remember leaving early as I had paid my money and wanted the full game.

North Stand in those days didn't boo but some of the shouts to the under performing Pompay players were first class. In the 70s the negativity was massive but the black humour was as good as Dave Allen at his best. Happy miserable times.
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Peter_Mellors_Got_No_Hair Posted on 11/03/2018 23:45

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Add a nought on it Stubby [;)]

Doesn't bear thinking about, if those 5,000 sod off!
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Peter_Mellors_Got_No_Hair Posted on 12/03/2018 00:02

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We're only currently a relegation team based on available players.

Pitman, Thompson and Evans back, and we're not!

We've spent money on wages that haven't reaped much value to the squad.

Holmes-Dennis (1), McCrory (3), O'keefe (15), Henderson (1), Deslandes (2), Ronan (9), Walkes (7).

Between them, those 7 players just about have enough appearances to fill 1 players slot this season. And to be fair to them, it does take a while to get settled and used to the team.
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Transcendence Posted on 12/03/2018 01:30

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Anyone know if Holmes-Dennis will be back before the end of the season?
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woodstock222 Posted on 12/03/2018 07:46

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Chrismilanman, I seem to remember the times in the 70s when the gates were only 7,000 or 8,000. On Saturday there were 17,000 + in the ground. Do understand the frustration and disappointment we have experienced since Christmas. Not one home win, hardly “Fortress Fratton.”

We are entitled to express our feelings, it is difficult to support and get excited about failure.

This is from somebody who has been going to FP for 65 years and a season ticket holder for over 40 years.
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lpblue Posted on 12/03/2018 08:26
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Customers

 
So all the fans that went in 70s and 80s when sometimes gates were low and the football was just as dire are idiots?..but when the premier league yrs happened and a new breed of customers appeared they are ok? This new breed of customers are half the reason the atmosphere is so XXXXXX nowadays...only sing when we're winning etc
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HateleysHeaderinBrazil Posted on 12/03/2018 08:53

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I think the missed opportunity / lost momentum in January was disappointing, but overall I appreciate the way calm and dignified way Kenny operates, and hopefully, with a decent summer window behind us, we will see more significant progress next season.
I don't see the point of booing or leaving early, that's an individual decision.
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Gooders Posted on 12/03/2018 09:19

Customers

 
I think once it was know Cook was off the chances of KJ taking over and moulding a team in the main that was not his to mount a serious charge to get out of L1 evaporated.

If Cook had stayed we would be in top 6 I have no doubts, but he decided to go and we have to give KJ the summer to mould a team to his thinking with youth to the fore as per the EISNER PLAN AND SEE IF HE CAN GET US INTO TOP 6 NEXT SEASON.
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