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autism_awareness Posted on 20/05/2020 20:09
Large 400 litre water butt needed. Any recommendations?
 
Minimum 400 litre water butt needed for large water changes on a big aquarium so ideally would be plastic.

Looking for something realistically priced as I have seen some that are very expensive.

Any ideas where I may get one locally (Teesside) or on-line. I have had a decent look, but am struggling as water butts generally are sold in stores just up to 250 litres which is no good to me.

Thank you.
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myfooty Posted on 20/05/2020 20:31

Large 400 litre water butt needed. Any recommendations?
Can you not just work with 2x 250 litre water butts?
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myfooty Posted on 20/05/2020 20:41

Large 400 litre water butt needed. Any recommendations?
Is this what you are looking for?


400 litre water butt

About this item

Frost proof in winter; plastic will not crackShape maintained when full of waterRobust, heavy duty product; industrial strengthOpaque plastic reduces algae growth in sunlight2 year warranty against manufacturing defects

Description

This ultra slimline UK-made water butt is the ideal space-saving alternative to cheaper cylindrical butts, and you won't have to replace it after a hard frost either. Made from the highest quality UV stabilised, frost proof polymer, its wall thickness of 6-7mm means it is made to last. It is perfect for slipping down the side of a shed, greenhouse or garage. This Ecosure butt's high capacity (nearly twice that of most conventional butts) means that you will be able to collect lots of free rainwater for your garden - which is so much better for your plants than tap water. This water butt comes complete a 9" vented lid and 1"BSP threaded brass outlet pre moulded into the tank. Use this to attach one of our tapkits, or a shut off valve with hose connector. Alternatively, attach an irrigation hose and water your garden without effort!



Link: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Ecosure-400-Litre-Water-B
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glover_elbow Posted on 20/05/2020 22:17

Large 400 litre water butt needed. Any recommendations?
You must like big butts [:O]
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DCI_Gene_Hunt Posted on 21/05/2020 08:12

Large 400 litre water butt needed. Any recommendations?
Why on earth would you need a 400 litre water butt?

How do you propose moving it when it's full?

What size is the aquarium? What are you planning on doing?
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autism_awareness Posted on 21/05/2020 08:13

Large 400 litre water butt needed. Any recommendations?
I cannot lie [;)]

Yes roughly what l am looking for ex_footy thanks, but the price is too high.
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Cleveleyssmoggie Posted on 21/05/2020 09:11

Large 400 litre water butt needed. Any recommendations?
Whatís more expensive, a new sterile clean container or replacing your fish when you kill them by cutting corners.?
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myfooty Posted on 21/05/2020 09:22

Large 400 litre water butt needed. Any recommendations?
Maybe a pre used IBC tank. 1000 litres IBC tank for £40.

Link: https://www.ebay.co.uk/b/agriculture-farming-stora
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autism_awareness Posted on 21/05/2020 09:35

Large 400 litre water butt needed. Any recommendations?
Why on earth would you need a 400 litre water butt?

How do you propose moving it when it's full?

What size is the aquarium? What are you planning on doing?

1. For large water changes
2. It doesn't move anywhere, it stays static. I use hose pipes via pump to drain the fresh water into the aquarium.
3. The aquarium is 681 litres/6x2x2. I do large weekly water changes in order to keep my fish healthy and in optimum condition. Helps to encourage breeding also.
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autism_awareness Posted on 21/05/2020 09:37
Edited On: 21/05/2020 09:39
Large 400 litre water butt needed. Any recommendations?
Many thanks my footy, that would be perfect, but way too large. I'll get one eventually.

Cleveleyssmoggie, I never cut corners mate. I will happily pay the big bucks if I have no alternative.
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myfooty Posted on 21/05/2020 09:38
Edited On: 21/05/2020 09:47
Large 400 litre water butt needed. Any recommendations?
I assume you already have some sort of pump for transferring the water but if not the Laser Drill Pump is perfect for extracting fluids or transferring light liquids and can be used with most drills.

Just need some hose pipe jubilee clips.

the link is an example of drill powered pump. If you look about you will find them a bit cheaper.

Link: https://www.halfords.com/tools/power-tools-and-acc
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myfooty Posted on 21/05/2020 10:08

Large 400 litre water butt needed. Any recommendations?
You might be able to get some ideas for tanks from this website. Just copy paste some description and search web for them to see if you can get something a bit cheaper.


Also worth noting that this company does not recommend some of pre used IBC tank use for products consumed by humans or animals, including the food, drink or pharmaceutical industry.

Link: https://www.kingfisherdirect.co.uk/fish-holding-ta
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DCI_Gene_Hunt Posted on 21/05/2020 10:26

Large 400 litre water butt needed. Any recommendations?
"1. For large water changes
2. It doesn't move anywhere, it stays static. I use hose pipes via pump to drain the fresh water into the aquarium.
3. The aquarium is 681 litres/6x2x2. I do large weekly water changes in order to keep my fish healthy and in optimum condition. Helps to encourage breeding also."

You shouldn't need be doing more than 25% (170 litres) every 1 - 2 weeks surely?

You want the water butt to drain fresh water into the aquarium, is that what you want it for or am I getting the wrong end of the stick?

Whats the benefit/logic in using a butt to refill the tank vs just refilling via hosepipe?

Where do you keep your tank?
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Chris_J Posted on 21/05/2020 11:40
Edited On: 21/05/2020 12:02
Large 400 litre water butt needed. Any recommendations?
That agricultural IBC...

I'm hooked and I can't stop staring [8D]

Link: I like small butts
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BoroGold2 Posted on 21/05/2020 18:59

Large 400 litre water butt needed. Any recommendations?
Are you from Eston by any chance ?
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Angelmatty Posted on 23/05/2020 12:32

Large 400 litre water butt needed. Any recommendations?
Why donít you just use a sump and change the water in a sump weekly

So much easier

What fish do you have ?
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autism_awareness Posted on 23/05/2020 16:35
Edited On: 23/05/2020 16:56
Large 400 litre water butt needed. Any recommendations?
A sump is an excellent filtration choice for anyone buying a new aquarium, but am happy with my FX6 external filters. I keep rare malawi cichlids.

Been in the hobby for over 35 years. It is common practice in the hobby now to do large water changes. There are so many benefits to the fish and to do just a 25% water change a fortnight as suggested by a poster earlier is poor advice. Even 25% a week is poor advice. If somebody cannot be ar$ed to do the weekly maintenance then this is not the hobby for them. Fish health is paramount.

Swimming about in their own $hit in a confined glass box (no matter what the size) for 1 or 2 weeks without large volumes of fresh water isn't great for their health. Filtration can only do so much.

Large water changes are like fresh air to fish and certainly helps combat disease. Small water changes will only encourage disease and I have found this in my own experience as have many aquarists that I know. Large water changes also encourage breeding and faster growth.

And to a chap earlier, no I do not live in Eston.
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DCI_Gene_Hunt Posted on 23/05/2020 17:26

Large 400 litre water butt needed. Any recommendations?
a_a - I bow to your obvious experience re water changes.

I'm curious, hence why I asked, about the mechanics of shifting such large volumes of water and the benefits of the water butt you were looking for and how you would use it.

Can you enlighten me?
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red_harrington Posted on 23/05/2020 17:53

Large 400 litre water butt needed. Any recommendations?
IBC tank as already mentioned is next best option, the difference in size between that and a 400litre tank isn't much, and they are very cheap and very practical, I have a couple myself
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autism_awareness Posted on 23/05/2020 19:57
Edited On: 23/05/2020 20:11
Large 400 litre water butt needed. Any recommendations?
No worries DCI and very true Red,

The night before the water change I bring in the water butt from the shed into my kitchen. I fill the water butt with water from the tap via hose. I add seachem prime (water conditioner) and oxygenate the water via small pump and use a heater to roughly get to aquarium temperature. If the water temperature is too low it will shock the fish.

Anyhow, the next morning I drain the aquarium of around 75% of water via hose. I do not do anything no buckets, nothing, gravity does the job. I then do the opposite using a water pump to siphon the fresh water from the water butt via hose back into the aquarium. Again no work involved.

If I was to do the water change via the old fashioned bucket method I would struggle for the will to live. You can only imagine how long it would take to empty and re-fill etc.. Been there and worn the t-shirt. Doing a massive water change like this on a weekly basis might seem a ball ache to some, but it is so quick there is no great effort involved. The hose and pump do the work while I have a cup of tea!

Yes some people put water straight in from the tap and do not oxygenate/heat overnight, but that is their choice. Experience and knowledge has taught me that this is much safer for fish and is standard practice with many experienced aquarists who take the hobby very seriously.

We are not talking guppies, platies and swordtails here that are super hardy, but expensive rare African cichlids that need specific water requirements or they will simply die.
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Angelmatty Posted on 24/05/2020 17:44

Large 400 litre water butt needed. Any recommendations?
Well got to agree I have

2x450 juwel Rio
Plus a feeder tank

And all get a 50% water change weekly

Big tanks are running two 406 fluval canisters

Feeder even has a 306 on it and is only a 125 litre

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autism_awareness Posted on 24/05/2020 23:56
Edited On: 24/05/2020 23:57
Large 400 litre water butt needed. Any recommendations?
Nice one Angelmatty [^]

What are you keeping fella?
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Angelmatty Posted on 25/05/2020 15:09

Large 400 litre water butt needed. Any recommendations?
Keep 2 Oscars each in the 450
Guppy feeder tank

Use to have about 200 mbuna but changed to Oscars

Looking at a custom tank now for maybe 2 arowana
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