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merrykoala Posted on 06/02/2020 09:09
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Anyone else think it's OK but they aren't half dragging it out?
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Marvanelli Posted on 06/02/2020 09:23

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Last episode next week isn't it?

I think it's been very good. Agree it appears that they've dragged it out a little, but it's definitely been worth the watch.

Wonder how accurate their portrait of Jeremy Bamber is.
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merrykoala Posted on 06/02/2020 09:28

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Oh I've enjoyed it, eerie similarities to Chernobyl in the fact that compromised institutions close ranks and go for the easy/less embarrassing option.

Just if they rush the little weasel getting his comeuppance and trial I'll feel a little short changed by the slow pace leading up to it.
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Viva_Hate Posted on 06/02/2020 09:36

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Did he do it ?

If you look at the family/inheritance tree it leaves lots of questions.
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merrykoala Posted on 06/02/2020 09:42

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I think he did, too many coincidences and anomalies.

I get that the cousins certainly stood to benefit a lot if he went down for the murders and his ex had an axe to grind but he stood to gain more than anyone by what he did and his behaviour as well as other things convince me he did it, even things they haven't shown in the program yet like the police overtaking his car on the way to the farm on the night.

Nasty little twerp.
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norfolkred1 Posted on 06/02/2020 10:00

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That smirk on his face when he left court, not a good idea. Thinks he has got away with it but I think he will slip up.
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CardiffDaffs Posted on 06/02/2020 10:01

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Been a fascinating series. Think he did it 100% yes. Strange behaviour culminating in him attempting to flog topless photos of his sister who had recently “killed” his mum and dad. What individual would do that unless they were motivated by money above all else.

I have issues with the pace of the series especially last night’s episode. So yes agree it has been a bit too long. They will cram the court case and after reactions in next week.

Freddie Fox superb as is the actress playing the simpering girlfriend. Whilst I think Stephen Graham is a fantastic actor his Welsh accent in this is shocking. And his character “taff” is a bit too much of a cartoon villain policeman for me.
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Viva_Hate Posted on 06/02/2020 10:49
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NFR - you don't have this Friday's euromillions numbers do you ? [;)]

I'm not convinced he is guilty. Almost all those with evidenece against him stood to inherit or were influenced by those due to inherit in his absence.

Definitely not Stephen Graham's finest momement.

Link: Inheritance line
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merrykoala Posted on 06/02/2020 10:59

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I think if the police hadn't botched the investigation originally instead of rushing to the easy answer of "the mad woman did it" then there would have been more evidence at trial.

They definitely should have been looking at him more closely straight away.
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norfolkred1 Posted on 06/02/2020 11:08

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Was there no recording devices for the interviews around that time and the lack of rubber gloves during the forensic period did not seem right. Not to pull it apart mind.
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Lemmy_Kilmister Posted on 06/02/2020 11:20

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Apparently a police investigation that is mucked up by errors is called 'doing a Bamber'.
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CasinoGrande Posted on 06/02/2020 11:35

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Enjoying it and he's guilty as. Said to the daughter last week that they could have made it in four episodes.
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Foggysfplandiet3 Posted on 06/02/2020 11:44

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It’s been very good, IMHO. Yes, of course Jeremy Bamber did it, too many coincidences otherwise and his behaviour was bizarre.

He is currently is still claiming he is innocent and trying to get released, I can’t imagine his legal team will be pleased with the way he has been portrayed in this series.

Apparently some coppers have complained at the portrayal of Taff; they say that he really wasn’t the narrow minded bully he is made out to be in this.
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scuzzmonster1 Posted on 06/02/2020 12:35
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Apparently, DCI Taff Jones took a header off a ladder at his home just before the trial began. Suss or not?
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Gibsons_Parmo Posted on 06/02/2020 13:38

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Enjoying the series, I do think he did it but not 100%. Theres a lot of info on the internet about it and apparently a lot of evidence was withheld.
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merrykoala Posted on 06/02/2020 14:16

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Witheld or inadmissible?

Like I've said the XXXXXXup was in trying to close the case as quickly as possible and not looking closer at other potential suspects. The loss and destruction of evidence and failing to control the scene will always give Bamber an element of doubt to work with where in all likelihood it's what would have condemned him.
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FatCat Posted on 06/02/2020 14:27

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I’m a massive Stephen Graham fan but if this was the first thing I saw him in I would think he was dog sh1t!! The accent the clothes he just comes across as a really and actor - luckily it’s just the part he is playing!
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Zoophonic Posted on 06/02/2020 14:50

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Unless a crime is caught on camera, witnessed by a dozen people or the accused is found standing over the body with a smoking gun and says I'm glad I killed the b''*88d there will always be some doubt.

Aliens could have beamed down, or it might have been the cat. The question is whether doubts offered by the defence are reasonable. The preponderance of the evidence suggests it wasn't Sheila, in which case it was either aliens, the cat or some drug gang. None of which IMO are reasonable, in which case one has to go with JB as the culprit.

I accept, owing to the egregious actions of the police, there is nothing to put the gun in Bamber's hands and that being a bit weird is no proof of guilt, but the evidence, beyond reasonable doubt, is enough for me.

1) declared his intention to buy a £38K Porsche with his money from selling the caravan park to police whilst sat in the police car whilst the bodies lay in the farmhouse and police were trying to gain entry
2) told the police that his sister had made multiple suicide attempts and told the police that she could handle all the guns in the house as she had used them all before
3) and that a loaded gun was always kept lying around in case of foxes

All lies and his description of Sheila's ability with guns (she didn't have any) prevented the police gaining entry to the farmhouse for nearly 3 hours.

Tried to sell to the tabloids naked photos of his sister for £20,000 and employed an agent.

Only reason for so many lies was to set the scene up as a murder suicide.

A clever and devious manipulator in his relationship with the police and certainly with his girlfriend.


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Viva_Hate Posted on 06/02/2020 15:14

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Excellent use of the word Greg.

For using an agent alone it should be a life sentence.
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Clingon33 Posted on 06/02/2020 18:01

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I thought this was about the haunted house near Barry Quarry pre Ingleby Barracks.
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AlbertoBongaloid Posted on 06/02/2020 21:37

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Doing a mini series about the Soham murders would be equally fascinating. The more I’ve researched that case the less Guilty Huntley looks. Scary
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CardiffDaffs Posted on 06/02/2020 21:40

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What? Huntley confessed!
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asredastheycome Posted on 06/02/2020 21:56

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Thought this was about the area I North Ormesby with the same name. Slightly disappointed it's not.
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AlbertoBongaloid Posted on 06/02/2020 22:19

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What? Huntley confessed!

We have only been told he confessed.
He was sent to Rampton hospital before he was even charged. Something very odd about that case. I never understood how someone who looked normal at interview would suddenly be too sick to be in a normal jail. The actual crimes were sickening but there was no forensic evidence linking those girls with his house. Hmmm
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merrykoala Posted on 13/02/2020 13:06

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Well, it wasn't as rushed at the end as I feared but it didn't end the best.

I felt a bit like the copper at the end, the whole affair was a bit grubby. If they hadn't messed up in the first place it would probably have been clearer cut at trial.

Thoughts?
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wilkos_perm Posted on 13/02/2020 13:34

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I 'm pretty sure he's guilty, but it would've been a difficult case to be on the jury for. Question marks over the credibility over the main prosecution witness and a crime scene with hadn't been processed properly.
Bamber probably thought he was going to get away with it.
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Foggysfplandiet3 Posted on 13/02/2020 13:44

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They didn’t mention in the trial scene last night much of the evidence against Bamber that was mentioned earlier in the series and it would have been helpful if they had.

I am sure Jeremy Bamber is guilty, they’ve got the right guy.

Neither did they mention the fact that Taff Jones died as the result of a fall from a ladder before Bamber even got to trial; you could say it wasn’t relevant to the case I suppose. And ITV might have pulled it in view of the fact that they have faced criticism from police officers who knew him for the portrayal of Jones in the programme as incompetent and a bully.
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Viva_Hate Posted on 13/02/2020 14:14

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Look at the inheritance tree.

Jezza is innocent.
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wilkos_perm Posted on 13/02/2020 14:40

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I don't know about the inheritance tree, but even his best mate who initially stood by him (the guy from New Zealand) said Bamber was always talking about his inheritance and the lifestyle he was going to lead. So he either was inline for the inheritance, a large chunk of it, or at least thought he was.
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Abel_Tasman Posted on 13/02/2020 14:51

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He’s as innocent as Peter Sutcliffe
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Marvanelli Posted on 13/02/2020 15:46

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Thought all in all it was very good.

I still think he done it, but there's definitely an element of doubt.

No doubt we'll never know for definite the truth.
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Viva_Hate Posted on 13/02/2020 15:49
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He was inline to inherit.

Much of the "evidence" from the family came from those who inherited i.e. with him banged up they bagged the loot.

In my view he is weird but I am not convinced he did it. The jury can only go on the case presented. It was fkup from the start by the filth.
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Heine Posted on 13/02/2020 17:47

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Stephen Graham isn't a golfer either 😁
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Lottowyn Posted on 13/02/2020 20:01

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He's as innocent as OJ Simpson.
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