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borobuddah Posted on 13/01/2020 23:00
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Shame on the media Hags and hacks.

It’s obvious that the royal family’s racism is being uncovered
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SNOWBANDIT Posted on 13/01/2020 23:07

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So,to be clear - shame on the hags and hacks for uncovering this rascism?
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uncle_rico Posted on 13/01/2020 23:30

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And yet strangely no one is talking about Prince Andrew anymore...
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Foggysfplandiet3 Posted on 13/01/2020 23:30

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It would be interesting to know exactly what this ”racism” and sexism which Meghan has complained about actually was and whom it was said or done by.

Harry and William issued a very angry denial this morning of any bullying of Meghan and Harry by William and they may yet sue the Telegraph over it, by the looks of things.

Perhaps the reports coming out tonight about Harry being torn between his loyalty to his wife and his loyalty to the Royal Family is indicative that it’s Meghan doing all the complaining rather than Meghan and Harry.

I don’t think this marriage is going to last much longer.
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borobuddah Posted on 13/01/2020 23:47

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No, bandit, for coining the term “Mexit “
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borobuddah Posted on 14/01/2020 00:09

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Foggy I don’t think the auld baker bean wants us to know the details of her whiter than white privileged aged family’s reaction to a black women around the palace

Go , on, blame the woman, but you demean Harry as a result.

Have you ever been in love?
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clive_road_stamper Posted on 14/01/2020 07:36

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Should't he have just married a princess from a far flung monarchy elsewhere like they used to do back in the day.
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1finny Posted on 14/01/2020 07:55

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Lots of discussion on potential racism v Meghan.
You can find it on line if you want - even saw a very interesting clip from Philip Schofield’s breakfast show which was shared on twitter.

Difficult to understand the constant vitriol towards her without a discussion on racism imo
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ZippytheHippy Posted on 14/01/2020 07:56

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opens thread....
stares at navel for a bit.

"oh look a piece of purple fluf, how interesting. i think il show it to the wife."
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CardiffDaffs Posted on 14/01/2020 07:59

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Glad you brought this up Borobuddah because I also thought it’s usage by the rags is effing diabolical.
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Gibsons_Parmo Posted on 14/01/2020 08:19

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Whenever something is happening involving any black, Asian or other race, racism is brought up as default. Although there is still a problem in society involving racism it is not every time.
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Muttley Posted on 14/01/2020 08:26

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Here's an interesting article that compares the media treatment of Kate v Meghan.

As an avowed Republican I find it a little disconcerting to find myself on the side of a Royal but it is an appalling catalogue of snide insinuation probably underpinned by racism.

For example, when both K and M were revealed to eat Avocado as a panacea for morning sickness...

Kate: "Prince William was given one of the green fruit – wrapped up in a bow – by a little boy who's mother is suffering during her pregnancy too... 'He said he'd take it to [Kate] and see what happens – and said good luck for [the boy's] mummy.'" Express: Sept. 14, 2017

Meghan: "The pregnant Duchess of Sussex and so-called 'avocado on toast whisperer' is wolfing down a fruit linked to water shortages, illegal deforestation and all round general environmental devastation." Express: Jan. 23, 2019

The article linked lists 20 headlines that compare the portrayal of Maghan with the sainted Kate.

Link: What is it they don't like about Meghan?
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Greenandblack Posted on 14/01/2020 08:47

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Meghan must have known before she got involved that the media scrutiny would be intrusive. She admitted her friends told her that dealing with the media would be hard work. But she went ahead anyway.

When the royals spend public money on travel, houses, clothes and holidays they must expect comment from all and sundry.

There have been an awful lot of short term decisions - to renovate Frogmore cottage, living in Africa, now stepping back and living in N America. None of it seems to have been thought out with a view to 5, 10 or 20 years time.

As someone says above, legitimate public interest is soon perceived as intrusion, and intrusion as criticism and criticism as racism.

I have no idea what level of racism H&M have been subjected to, but I do know that running away from it is not going to help at all, and it'll bring plenty more criticism than if they'd stayed here.
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hopesoboro Posted on 14/01/2020 08:50

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Foggybrain
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joseph99 Posted on 14/01/2020 08:52

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Is Meghan being racist towards her Dad?
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Foggysfplandiet3 Posted on 14/01/2020 10:14
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"Foggybrain"

No. I just have never seen anything in the papers or in other media which has been truly racist or sexist towards Meghan. But there again I don't trawl through all the papers and media looking at articles on the royals. Maybe you do and that's why you have such a superior knowledge of this to me.

I have seen criticism of her and him about going on a 6 week paid holiday in Canada and spending £2.4million of taxpayer's money on altering Frogmore, and about not making the announcement about Archie's birth and who had delivered him (as has always been reported in every senior Royal birth for the last couple of hundred years or so) and I have seen criticism of her refusing to allow people to take her photo in the public arena of Centre Court, Wimbledon where anyone can take a photo of anyone else, but that obviously has absolutely nothing to do with her skin colour; just about all the royals face criticism, especially about taking holidays and spending public money, regularly, including on this very Forum.

I am not in a position to know whether any member of the Royal Family has abused Meghan on the grounds of race or sexism but there again, neither are you, unless you know the Royal Family personally or were actually there when it happened.

Were you, Buddah? Perhaps you can give us your first hand witness account?

Prince Charles walked her up the aisle at her wedding after she kicked her own dad into touch. He also provides most of Harry and Meghan's income.
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hopesoboro Posted on 14/01/2020 10:20

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One keeps one's connections to oneself.
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1finny Posted on 14/01/2020 10:21

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Foggy
There has been tons of criticism of Megan (pre dates the holiday)
There has been little to no criticism of Kate
The question is - why would one woman be criticised whilst another is given love - in many cases for doing exactly the same thing.
It is absolutely wrong to play the racism card automatically.
It is equally wrong to dismiss it out of hand.

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Foggysfplandiet3 Posted on 14/01/2020 10:42
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There HAS been criticism of Kate in the past but that was largely before she married William. There was also a lot of criticism of her family exploiting her position to promote their business. Since Kate became Queen in waiting she has fully adopted that role. So what would you criticise Kate for since she became Queen?

I'm not saying there aren't bigoted idiot individuals who have made unsavoury comments about Meghan joining the firm but I don't recall any of the papers doing that. They did make a fuss of her stopping members of the public taking photos of her in the Royal Box at Wimbledon but there was nothing racist about that, surely? She was a (tax payer funded) Royal in the public arena of Wimbledon Centre Court,why should people not be able to take photos of her there? If it had been Kate, the Queen or a minor Royal like the Duchess of Kent who had tried to stop people taking pictures of her the papers would have been every bit as critical.

I have seen loads of displays of love towards Meghan in the papers, from the public, and from the firm (Charles walking her up the aisle for example). The Queen seems to like her a lot and obviously had high hopes for her and Harry playing a full role as senior royals and reaching out to a new generation.

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mendieta420 Posted on 14/01/2020 10:44

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good on harry for sticking by her and telling this lot to go XXXXXX themselves. [^]
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Muttley Posted on 14/01/2020 10:46

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As Finny says "There has been tons of criticism of Megan" read the article in the link on my previous post. 20 headlines from the same newspapers on how they have portrayed the actions of Kate and then how they have portrayed Meghan doing EXACTLY the same thing. Kate gets praise, Meghan gets brickbats nothing overtly racist but Kate is assertive and Meghan is bossy, you have to ask why one gets praise and the other doesn't...
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hopesoboro Posted on 14/01/2020 11:31

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Bloomin eck Foggy'll be getting his hanky out soon![:D]
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Vena Posted on 14/01/2020 11:37

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"It would be interesting to know exactly what this ”racism” and sexism which Meghan has complained about actually was and whom it was said or done by."

Short odds on Phillip, he's if he wasn't over 100 years old he'd be labeled a bigot but he has the right to a little slack, the world has changed a lot since he was born.

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boromike85 Posted on 14/01/2020 11:55

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I don't think the media has been racist. When they first started it was all very positive. There were lots of stories where she was bold enough to be different and not be a typical royal and they were seen as positives. Over time she/they became more willing to take the taxpayers money without doing the traditional things royals do which denied the media access so they started to turn on her/them. If there is one thing the press don't like it is restrictions. They also turned very preachy and hypocritical. Her independence and wanting the best of both worlds has been the issue and people have turned on her.

Once the public join them on that side then selling negative stories becomes far easier. Papers print what their readers want to read rather than having an agenda and leading their opinion. It's not a racism issue, it's not a Kate vs Meghan issue. It's just that is what sells.

Why anyone cares is beyond me but that's the way it is.
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Muttley Posted on 14/01/2020 12:12

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"I don't think the media has been racist"

Really?

You do know that "being racist" is not as simple as calling her by the "n word" or turning up outside her house in a bedsheet?
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boromike85 Posted on 14/01/2020 12:21

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Yes. In this instance it would mean attacking her because of the colour of her skin instead of her actions and behaviours. I don't think they have. As I said, they were initially very positive about her but that changed over time. Her skin colour hasn't changed so it can only be her behaviour.

To claim racism any time something negative happens to someone that isn't white trivialises actual racism.
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Indeedido Posted on 14/01/2020 12:21

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Really well put BoroMike.

I think the dimension of pushy Yank has far more substance than racism or sexism.
Once the public turns...and it has...things are rarely turned.
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Duffman Posted on 14/01/2020 12:22

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In short, Harry and Meghan are not happy with their lives as royals and the unfair and unacceptable treatment they believe they are receiving from many quarters. As a result, they want to step down from being ‘Senior Royals’. Not a problem. Remove the HRH, stop all funding and set them free to pursue the life they seek. No animosity, no nastiness,. They remain family and friends with the Windsor’s but not a formal part of the serving Royal dynasty. Simple really
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borobuddah Posted on 14/01/2020 12:27

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Some poor apologists for racism on here.

Racism is despicable and disgusting ignorance, it seeks often to hide its shameful face. It is often cowardly and hides in shadows.
I wasn’t aware Meghan complained about racism (yet) but I am complaining about it
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borobuddah Posted on 14/01/2020 12:43

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And Mike, I agree using the ‘race card’ lightly harms the cause
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whatdoyoubench Posted on 14/01/2020 12:47

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I believe it is racism and the country is in denial over just how big of a problem racism still is here in 2020
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FatCat Posted on 14/01/2020 12:51

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I’m with Boro mike - I have seen numerous interviews where people of asked for examples of racism and non can be given. Truly if she was white I believe she would be getting similar treatment - the media always builds people up then knocks them down. Likewise the general public now see her as been a bit bossy and they have turned on her. Remember Kate’s mum the media ganged up on her when they realised she was only an air hostess and had ideas above her station - Kate’s mum is white, it’s what happens, it’s what the media do. I’m not saying it’s right but it’s not racism either.

It’s too easy to claim racism and does undermine cases where true racism is displayed.
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Greenandblack Posted on 14/01/2020 12:55

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Saying that someone is making wrong decisions and doing the wrong thing is not being racist.
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br14 Posted on 14/01/2020 12:56

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"It’s obvious that the royal family’s racism is being uncovered"

I think it's more likely the fact Markle is not the brightest that has been uncovered - whatever her racial background.

All this fuss over a non-story.
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Muttley Posted on 14/01/2020 13:09

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"Saying that someone is making wrong decisions and doing the wrong thing is not being racist."

Indeed not. But when the same actions are depicted in different ways what would you say the motivation is?

For example. The two couples choose to spend Christmas at home rather than with the Royal Family...

Kate: "Royal sources said yesterday that the Queen understood and endorsed William and Kate’s decision not to spend Christmas Day with her. One said: ‘Her Majesty understands that it is a dilemma that many young couples face and acknowledges how close Catherine’s relationship is with her family."

Meghan: "The fact is the Queen expects to have the family around her for the festive season... to the Queen, for whom the tradition of the family gathering is a key date in her calendar, Harry and Meghan’s absence will be a matter of great sadness. It will also be a source of frustration."

Both from the Daily Mail.
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Hitachi Posted on 14/01/2020 13:18

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Meghan is such a wonderful,gifted and deeply sincere person. She has been hounded by the gutter press since she turned up for her £30 million quid wedding.Its all to do with the fact that she is a spunky woman of colour. No doubt about it. After all Borobuddah says so,and backed up by Muttley,so it must be a fact. You also have to feel so sorry for poor Prince Harry. Now we all know he isn't the sharpest knife in the box ,but he is deeply in love with Princess Sparkles. What would his sainted mother the Blessed Diana make of it I wonder?
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FatCat Posted on 14/01/2020 13:37

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Myrtle I think they are definitely treated differently as you have evidenced. The question then is it racism or are there other factors, do they simply like Kate and her actions above those of Meghan. It’s very easy to just play the racist card, maybe there her is an element of racism also I truly believe some of her actions have not been welcomed by the press and public.
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boromike85 Posted on 14/01/2020 13:38

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"Indeed not. But when the same actions are depicted in different ways what would you say the motivation is?"

Selling papers. As above, the tide has already turned for her so anything they can print to get people to buy their stories then they will. People don't want to read about Kate's decisions because they like her, they don't like Meghan so want to read about why her decisions are wrong. It backs up their opinion of her.

It's exactly the same with politicians. People will justify one politician making the same decision another politician that they disagree with would make but would criticise them for it.
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whatdoyoubench Posted on 14/01/2020 14:28

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Br14- what makes you think Megan is “not the brightest”?

Seems to me she managed to make quite something of herself while people sit around and bash her on message boards.

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Hitachi Posted on 14/01/2020 14:38

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I don't think it's about race but about social class .Poor Sparkles found herself in a world of unbelievable snobbery.She obviously felt deeply out of place and did what she I'd good at ie: bolted. She basically couldn't hack it.Obviously Kate on the other hand who is from a middle class background has come to terms with it Princess Sparkles obviously had no idea what marrying into the RF would be like. Therefore on that level she wasn't vey bright was she? On the other hand maybe she is super smart and manipulative and recognised what a complete dumbo Harry is.I think she may have recognised the route to a mega Meghan gravy train.
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jam69 Posted on 14/01/2020 14:46

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what a odd take on it
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hopesoboro Posted on 14/01/2020 14:50

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Nice chap Hitachi, isn't he![xx(]
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Muttley Posted on 14/01/2020 14:50

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You just keep on excusing it Mr Chi.

You constantly prove you have not an ounce of human compassion in your blackened soul, empathy is just a baffling concept. "Princess Sparkles" hilarious.

It is a strange old day when an avowed republican is defending a member of the RF from a Brexiteer...
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TheFactory Posted on 14/01/2020 14:57

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"You constantly prove you have not an ounce of human compassion in your blackened soul, empathy is just a baffling concept."

Ironic coming from the person who admitted to having no sympathy for victims of mass shootings in the US.
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Muttley Posted on 14/01/2020 15:18

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Sock puppet stalker you sad pitiful man.
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TheFactory Posted on 14/01/2020 15:23

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Yet more irony from the vile hypocrite.
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Hitachi Posted on 14/01/2020 15:30
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Were you born a samtimonious prick Muttley,or did you just develop into one? What is it like to be holier than thou? It seems the stalker is you. I obviously get under your Tartuffian skin. Sorry but that's your problem old chap.
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Muttley Posted on 14/01/2020 15:48

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Pwned [:D]
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TheFactory Posted on 14/01/2020 15:58

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This will be Muttley in his full-on damage limitation mode now as his moral preaching has been shown up to be utterly empty. The clique on horseback will arrive soon to offer much-needed support and deflection.
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borobuddah Posted on 14/01/2020 16:49

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Why would anyone even imagine there was no racism amongst our white, established ruling family?

I say this because in my experience we all suffer a bit with our own racism. It might stick in the throat, but we all benefited from slavery (Liverpool, Bristol, etc) and we all grew up surrounded by racism, or at best, prejudice.

How much more then would our ruling family hold unpleasant attitudes to difference?

It just seems logical to me
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TheFactory Posted on 14/01/2020 16:57

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"Why would anyone even imagine there was no racism amongst our white, established ruling family?"

Perhaps there is.

Your OP though states that "it's obvious that the royal family’s racism is being uncovered", implying that they're the ones responsible for this situation with Meghan due to their prejudices, but where is the evidence of this other than that which you have imagined?
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borobuddah Posted on 14/01/2020 17:18

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Perceived, not imagined.

I could be wrong of course [8)]
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br14 Posted on 14/01/2020 17:18

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"Seems to me she managed to make quite something of herself while people sit around and bash her on message boards."

No doubt. But for someone who is in the public eye, and clearly wants to be at some level (not the nasty stuff obviously), she makes some odd decisions.

Taking a private jet to a climate change event doesn't seem like the smartest idea.

Marrying a Royal Prince then expecting to be able to control the media is also not exactly being in touch with reality.

And if they're trying to get away from media attention it seems to me they're taking an odd approach. Right now they're headline news across the world. In the US this is knocking impeachment off the headlines.

Then again perhaps growing up in Hollywood isn't the best grounding in reality. So maybe she just has a lack of self-awareness - or is crap at hiring PR people. (Or perhaps attention is really what she craves).
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TheFactory Posted on 14/01/2020 17:23

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"I could be wrong of course"

Well let's assume you aren't. What leads you to the conclusion you made in your OP?
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bear66 Posted on 14/01/2020 17:24

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I thought they were private visits not to a climate event?

You can't blame her for the, at best, snide and sneering comparison of her versus Kate by the media in the link above. There clearly is some agenda to belittle her in those papers.
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borobuddah Posted on 14/01/2020 17:35

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Factory, I explained it above
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TheFactory Posted on 14/01/2020 17:39

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Where? I'll quote your OP again:

"It’s obvious that the royal family’s racism is being uncovered"

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borobuddah Posted on 14/01/2020 17:42

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The thinly veiled threat of a no - holds barred interview by H&M?
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TheFactory Posted on 14/01/2020 17:47

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That's quite a leap you've made in all honesty.
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Lefty Posted on 14/01/2020 17:52

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Tweet of the day here

Link: Andy Williams
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borobuddah Posted on 14/01/2020 17:56

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Maybe so F, but you don’t comment on my logic.

I stick with what I said
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whatdoyoubench Posted on 14/01/2020 18:05

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I’m not sure how practical it is for a prominent member of the royal family to take a commercial flight. Seems like it would be an XXXXXX on. Think it’s unfair to hold that against them.

Why does the narrative seem to be that meg is the architect and has corrupted poor little Harry? I don’t recall him every being overly eager to toe the line. I do remember him with his dick out or that time he dressed as a nazi and whatever he did when just living and being young.

It seems to be an easy story to spin when she is an outsider. Now I meet people that say they just don’t like her, having never met her. No one really has any idea what she’s truly like.
There’s no more proof that Meghan is a deplorable human being as there is that the queen told Harry to get rid of her because she’s black.

I hope one day we will stop collectively heaping misery upon individuals in this country. We’ve seen many untimely deaths as a result already
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Muttley Posted on 14/01/2020 18:23

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"This will be Muttley in his full-on damage limitation mode now as his moral preaching has been shown up to be utterly empty. The clique..."

No that wold be Muttley refusing to enter into a lying contest with an expert. Referencing "The Clique" is about as clear a flag wave as posting "I'm a person who has been banned from here multiple times for my abhorrent views and behaviour". Jog on.

As for me "...having no sympathy for victims of mass shootings in the US." Oh I'm sure in your stalking you have managed to find something I have posted that taken out of context might be construed in such a way or perhaps a clumsy expression that I might have used. I can't even remember the last time a mass shooting was referenced on here, though given their frequency that is perhaps unsurprising. It is desperately sad that you feel the need to score points by referencing something I may have said months if not years ago. I mean really pitiful. Cringing for you.
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TheFactory Posted on 14/01/2020 18:30

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"This will be Muttley in his full-on damage limitation mode now"

Just as I said...
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Hitachi Posted on 14/01/2020 19:03

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Never mind cringing Mutters old chap. Will you be Bonging on Brexit night? Go on treat yourself.
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borobuddah Posted on 15/01/2020 10:42

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In denial
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CardiffDaffs Posted on 15/01/2020 10:46

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Spending £500k on getting a clock to ring once.

Utter lunacy.
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