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atypical_boro Posted on 03/12/2019 10:32
Do you want Gibson out of the club?
 
A simple yes or no will do, just to get some idea of how the land lies. 10 years ago there'd have been virtually no one saying 'yes', but clearly times are different now.
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Old-boot Posted on 03/12/2019 10:34

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
No! (I do not[;)])[:D]
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BigmetsBoro86 Posted on 03/12/2019 10:34

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
Nope... Just a manger change for now[^]

If Gibson left and everything else going on with league position and contacts etc we could be fecked.
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wilkos_perm Posted on 03/12/2019 10:36

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
No

I just want him to bring in better staff and advisors
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Mansize_Rooster Posted on 03/12/2019 10:41

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
100% No.

For every successful takeover like Man City and Wolves there is a Bolton or Sunderland.

That’s all I’m saying

Mansize
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supermfc Posted on 03/12/2019 10:42

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
No, but i do believe we need outside investment!
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Adi_Dem Posted on 03/12/2019 10:42

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
No.
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alanmoodysdog Posted on 03/12/2019 10:45

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
No
Look at Preston - up the top with 20% the cost/wages of us..can be done
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xBoro_Scallyx Posted on 03/12/2019 10:47
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Do you want Gibson out of the club?
The proposed alternatives such as outside investment is all well and good, if he wasn't so stubborn and actually could be trusted to make a positive decision. Will always respect the man but there has only been the odd good decision in a sea of bad ones since 2006.

His jobs for the boys policy has left a particularily bad taste.

Time for a change now I think
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Marvanelli Posted on 03/12/2019 10:49

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
No.

Just needs to hire someone else to make the big decisions.
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3ships Posted on 03/12/2019 10:53

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
Nope... Just a manger change for now[^]

Madness!! he put this manager in charge so why is this not his fault?

I dont really want Gibbo out but its clear he needs some help when making important decisions these days. Years ago he could correct his mistakes by throwing money at it but obviously he doesnt have that safety net anymore
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atypical_boro Posted on 03/12/2019 10:54

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
"The proposed alternatives such as outside investment is all well and good"

So we know that he is turning down offers of outside investment, do we? Who from?
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rob_fmttm Posted on 03/12/2019 10:54

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
No and contrary to what you have been saying I was again told in no uncertain terms he will be plugging the gap with the maximum amount of millions FFP allows at the end of the season. I don't see anyone else doing that obver a lifetime, why should they.
They have trimmed down off field staff as much as playing staff. Meeting FFP is so so hard to achieve. Hard times.
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atypical_boro Posted on 03/12/2019 10:55

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
"Madness!! he put this manager in charge so why is this not his fault?"

No one said this current problem wasn't his fault did they?

Rob - what have I been saying that is contrary to that?
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Hitachi Posted on 03/12/2019 10:57

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
Will Gibson be around forever?Loking to the long term it is inevitable that he will go.Its simply a matter of time.
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atypical_boro Posted on 03/12/2019 10:59

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
That wasn't the question Hitachi.
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xBoro_Scallyx Posted on 03/12/2019 11:00
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Do you want Gibson out of the club?
Atypical

"Proposed alternatives" like the ones proposed on here (outside investment/new set of eyes)
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rob_fmttm Posted on 03/12/2019 11:07

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
Sorry, it might not have been you. Someone was saying that reading the books Gibson wasn't putting any money in anymore to the club.
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Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 03/12/2019 11:09

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
He's too old for the job, lacking the energy and vision he once had.
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atypical_boro Posted on 03/12/2019 11:16
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Do you want Gibson out of the club?
Rob - its Indeedido who says he hasn't put in any money since 2016.

All I've ever said is that any new chairman would still have to operate under FFP.
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3ships Posted on 03/12/2019 11:23

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
All I've ever said is that any new chairman would still have to operate under FFP.

That is true but someone else probably would make the same mistakes regarding staff and management. Instead of just giving the lads jobs there might be some thought go into it
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Hitachi Posted on 03/12/2019 11:25

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
It's not just about money .Its now all about competence and Gibson is failing in that regard.Can he somehow turn this failing club around.I don't think so.
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atypical_boro Posted on 03/12/2019 11:26

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
"He's too old for the job, lacking the energy and vision he once had."

So that's a 'yes'?
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Hitachi Posted on 03/12/2019 11:33

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
It's a yes for me too.
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atypical_boro Posted on 03/12/2019 11:34
Edited On: 03/12/2019 11:35
Do you want Gibson out of the club?
11-3 so far
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Dan_Ashcroft Posted on 03/12/2019 11:35
Edited On: 03/12/2019 11:44
Do you want Gibson out of the club?
No, 100%!

12-3

My biggest criticism is the ticket prices. The area is Boro mad but no-one goes to the games.

When you live outside of the region, you can see the difference and just how much the area revolves around the football team.

There is a massive passion, but sadly it isn't matched by support in the ground.
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Ticker_Tape Posted on 03/12/2019 11:36

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
No
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Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 03/12/2019 11:38

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
'So that's a 'yes'?'

Not necessarily, but he needs someone younger and new to football club management making the decisions. He's relying on people entrenched in the football industry.

He wasn't when he came in and it showed.
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atypical_boro Posted on 03/12/2019 11:42

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
Are you yes or no Cat?
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Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 03/12/2019 11:52

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
Not necessarily is where I am with Gibbo, the club needs his financial support at present but he needs someone to play the role he once did.



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Derek_Duvall Posted on 03/12/2019 11:54

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
No, but I'd like some changes; starting with the manager! I'd like him to bring in top professionals and do away with this 'if you're from Teesside or played for the club, then you're on board!
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atypical_boro Posted on 03/12/2019 11:55
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Do you want Gibson out of the club?
OK then, 15-3.
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swordtrombonefish Posted on 03/12/2019 11:55

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
No[V]
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Roswell Posted on 03/12/2019 11:57

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
No, but I’d like home to make better decisions in the future.
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bichonfrise Posted on 03/12/2019 12:02

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
definitely no
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clay_davis Posted on 03/12/2019 12:04

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
Absolutely not.

He's not above criticism, but I seriously fear for the club after he's gone.
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10hickton Posted on 03/12/2019 12:04

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
No chance
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JonJon Posted on 03/12/2019 12:12

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
Definitely not.
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hopesoboro Posted on 03/12/2019 12:13

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
Isn't Corky too old to have an opinion?[xx(]
I'm all for Gibbo - mind, I'm older than Corky!
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borgelite Posted on 03/12/2019 12:17

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
No
Anyone saying yes be careful what you wish for
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Emmersons_BrazillianDong Posted on 03/12/2019 12:24

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
No but therte are many many issues that need addressing
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Hitachi Posted on 03/12/2019 12:27

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
It looks like the no's have it.If that's the case with the vast bulk of the fans then do they believe he can sort the club out?
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Derek_Duvall Posted on 03/12/2019 12:29

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
But even the no's have said that there need to be huge changes. Simply can't continue blindly lumbering from one season to the next with no plan.
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Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 03/12/2019 12:31

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
I'm sure there is a plan, the man's not an idiot.
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Funky_Chicken Posted on 03/12/2019 12:37

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
I think the question should be what is he going to achieve if he stays on - the answer is not a lot. In fact he’s in grave danger of tarnishing all that was achieved from 94-06. His legacy might end up being the chairman who took us to the National League




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Hitachi Posted on 03/12/2019 12:38

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
Gibson is obviously an astute businessman,but has he got the ideas and energy to get the club out of the mess its in? I don't think so.
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Sortie Posted on 03/12/2019 12:38

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
"Time for a change now I think"

So that makes you not sure then.

Those that want change I assume you have a master plan to raise some capital then. Mackem wannabe's
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Indeedido Posted on 03/12/2019 12:46

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
Yes I would strongly prefer a different leader and owner of the Club.
Completely matterless, because the financial position of the club is so bad that nobody else in their right mind would repay Gibson O'Neill Undertakings, nor give Gibson the £63m he has put into the Club in new equity 2012-16.

It is however a fact that Gibson O'Neill has reduced Group undertakings (internal loan) since 2016 and no new equity has been injected.
Let's see what the Accounts to June 2019 say when they are published, but there is no doubt Gibson O'Neill will have to increase Undertakings again in 2019-20 to shore up losses and will probably have to inject equity to stay within FFP allowable losses over 2017-20 and beyond.
All down to his remarkably stupid decision making. He is paying for his own mistakes.

I'd rather have somebody making the right calls, rather than knee jerking into shoring up losses resulting from stupidity.
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Tom_Fun Posted on 03/12/2019 12:52

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
"No and contrary to what you have been saying I was again told in no uncertain terms he will be plugging the gap with the maximum amount of millions FFP allows at the end of the season."

Does it not alarm you that he's still having to do that though? He's been the chairman for 25 years now, plenty of time to work out how to run a stable club.
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Foggysfplandiet3 Posted on 03/12/2019 12:54

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
No.

And in any case if Gibson is "out of the club" there must be someone else "in" first and a lot of people on here seem to struggle to understand that.

I don't see any sign of anyone else coming in.
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Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 03/12/2019 12:55

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
Gibson may be willing to back the club without himself being in control of the decision making. I doubt it though.

How far will Gibbo let the club fall before considering his position may be a more viable question.

No doubt he's looking to trim the wage bill with an eye on what's coming next season. How long before the squad is trimmed sufficiently for the club to stand on its own without him, that's what he may be looking at. He's not going to last forever, nor are his finances.


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Indeedido Posted on 03/12/2019 12:56

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
If the Club makes the huge loss expected this season and projected thereafter, then he has no choice but to start injecting money again, otherwise the FFP penalties will kick in.
If he pulls the plug on the Club and refuses to guarantee the loan, then the club is insolvent, can't trade and if it went under HE would not have his loans repaid in full and his equity would become worthless. The Club is worth MINUS £58m and counting.
He has no choice but to increase loan and/or inject equity again.
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DCI_Gene_Hunt Posted on 03/12/2019 12:58

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
F**k me! I agree with Mansize Rooster on something.

No definitely not but I wish he'd do things differently.
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Foggysfplandiet3 Posted on 03/12/2019 13:00

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
xBoro Scally: "Proposed alternatives" like the ones proposed on here (outside investment/new set of eyes)"

WHO are these outside investors? Who are these people with new sets of eyes? Can you confirm to us that they even EXIST? No, you can't because they don't!

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Badonde Posted on 03/12/2019 13:00

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
No.
Still the best Chairman around.
Let down by his staff.

Some of you who want him out want to try running your own business or organisation. Let alone a professional football club where 'luck' can account for 40% of results.
(Read that 40% thing just recently....can't remember source unfortunately)
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Indeedido Posted on 03/12/2019 13:02

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
"Let down by his staff"[:D][:D][:D][:D]
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JLinardi Posted on 03/12/2019 13:10

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
Depends if he’s willing to get a DoF in or let Kenyon run the club, the decisions since promotion have been outstandingly bad.
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coluka Posted on 03/12/2019 13:18

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
Never had you down as the starter of a Gibson out vote atypical [;)]

No, but I do want him to bring in a proper Chairman/CEO to run the club better. A Kenyon or Levy type appointment. I would then like him to take a step back from the day to day footballing decisions. I am happy to buy him a football manager game and console so he does not get too bored if it helps [;)]
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nowthen Posted on 03/12/2019 13:19

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
Which staff has he been let down by?
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Nosmo-King Posted on 03/12/2019 13:19

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
In fairness, this is such a loaded question. My gut feel to it is YES. Too many error strewn years that have become the norm. The club is stale and stagnant. The caveat being what the potential future owners would have as their intentions.

After 33 years under the same ownership you have to be wary about what might be around the corner.
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18MFC76 Posted on 03/12/2019 13:23

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
No I don't want him out but there needs to be radical changes in the way the club is being run. My 3 main issues are as follows:

The recruitment team needs a full overhaul. Gill etc have failed miserably over a number of years and are still failing each and every transfer window. We need a full new recruitment team.

My second issue is Gibson's lack of communication with supporters.

I am not saying he needs to be on social media spouting sh1te week in week out but even the odd interview with the gazette from time to time just so we can get an idea of how he is feeling about where we are as a club and how he plans to improve things. I think he owes that to season ticket holders parting with their hard earned cash.

My 3rd and main issue is around ticket prices. We need to find a way as a club to get bums on seats and the pricing structure has to change.

We need to encourage kids to come and watch the Boro. They are the fans of the future and getting them interested in the team from a young age is vitally important for our future. It makes no sense whatsoever to have empty seats on a matchday. Give them to school kids/introduce ticket offers etc. The more people in the ground the more revenue we generate in the concourses etc.
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London_Boro Posted on 03/12/2019 13:28

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
I will always be a resounding NO!
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Lemmy_Kilmister Posted on 03/12/2019 13:39

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
No
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dooderooni Posted on 03/12/2019 13:44

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
If you want a one word answer 5hen it's 'No'.

The Boro are more of a Schroedinger's Cat question though, we don't know if we'll do better or worse until we finally change.
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coluka Posted on 03/12/2019 13:48

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
More of a Blofeld’s Cat scenario with him at present
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UpTheBoro70 Posted on 03/12/2019 13:57

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
No, I'd like him to encourage external investment and share his power with another. If a Chinese billionaire wants a bit of a plaything and a hobby offer him a minority stake in the club but prefer if gibson was alongside him. Too much of a dictatorship atm
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Wanderingstar Posted on 03/12/2019 14:06

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
Good postings indeedo, emphasising once more the appalling decisions made after promotion. People call mike Ashley, but he knows how to combine business acumen with running a football club
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parmoboy Posted on 03/12/2019 14:12

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
No but I am starting to think he should appoint a Director of football.
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Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 03/12/2019 14:16
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Do you want Gibson out of the club?
Name a handful of clubs that aren't dictatorships.
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NYboro Posted on 03/12/2019 14:32

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
No. there's no-one waiting to take over (and sink the money required to keep us going).
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Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 03/12/2019 14:35

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
The club will keep going without him. The level at which they play will depend on local support.
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NYboro Posted on 03/12/2019 14:42

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
CtC, I don't disagree with that assessment, but I'd rather hold off on going non-league for as long as possible.
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WoodallServices Posted on 03/12/2019 14:44

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
No.
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Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 03/12/2019 14:44

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
Funnily enough, the non league football I'm watching this season is better than that being played at the Riverside, for me anyway.
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Kosovo Posted on 03/12/2019 14:49

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
No
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SmogOnOuseburn Posted on 03/12/2019 14:53

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
No, because I don’t want to end up like Bury or Bolton.
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JLinardi Posted on 03/12/2019 14:55

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
Why would we end up like bury or Bolton?
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Pogatetz_Ate_My_Hamster_ Posted on 03/12/2019 14:56

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
Yes.
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atypical_boro Posted on 03/12/2019 15:00

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
Col - I just asked the question to see whether the 'Gibson out' voices are the most common or just the loudest. I think we have an answer.
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UKLL1981 Posted on 03/12/2019 15:01

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
Yes and I hate to say it but he’s the problem and the reason the club is in this predicament. Changing the manager and going backwards every year suggests the club has bigger problems than the manager. If he’s unwilling or unable to change then the club is doomed as a competitive team. It’s literally the same mistakes over and over again, he learnt nothing from Southgate.
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coluka Posted on 03/12/2019 15:10

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
Atypical, I know [^], I was being tongue in cheek really [;)]
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MightyDuck Posted on 03/12/2019 15:27

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
I'd like the club to be managed well. From top to bottom this club is a shambles.
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Indeedido Posted on 03/12/2019 15:52

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
It was an extremely loaded question - as atypical's always are.
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redlion Posted on 03/12/2019 15:56

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
It's a no from me
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atypical_boro Posted on 03/12/2019 16:22
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Do you want Gibson out of the club?
Why was it loaded Indeedido? I asked specifically for a simple yes/no. Many have chosen to elaborate (including yourself quite extensively) but I didn't ask them to.
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Indeedido Posted on 03/12/2019 17:10

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
You don't need it explaining, but I'll offer a view atypical.

It's loaded because your implicit caveat is so if you want a change, who else? It is always your approach when posing these poll like simplistic questions.
Even the language "wanting him out of the club" is subtly provocative. It makes someone who answers yes without qualification sound an ungrateful toy thrower.
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BigUnit Posted on 03/12/2019 17:30

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
Yes
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Free_Subbuteo_171 Posted on 03/12/2019 17:31

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
No.

Needs help though as we lurching from strategy to strategy with no clear defined plan.

Finding another investor doesn't solve the FFP issue unless we accept we'll blatantly ignore the rules and spend tens off millions above what Gibno currently puts in.

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atypical_boro Posted on 03/12/2019 17:33

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
I haven't asked that, anywhere on this thread. I've explained to Col why I asked the question so I refer you to my answer above.

I think you've got this mixed up with a question I asked a few months, which wasn't loaded so much as explicitly asking who else was available to run the club.

I can't actually remember posting a simplistic 'poll like' question like this before. Feel free to dig it out if I have, but I don't think I have.

No its a simple question mate, if you take it to mean something else or feel subtly provoked in some way that's entirely up to you. I haven't called anyone an ungrateful toy thrower, the only person implying that on this thread is yourself with that comment. Why do you think people who say 'yes' sound like ungrateful toy throwers?
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Indeedido Posted on 03/12/2019 17:41

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
I don't at all, but I see why others would because of the way you posed it.
You're a bright bloke atypical and know exactly what you were doing.
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stjohnhickton Posted on 03/12/2019 17:47

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
No no NO!!!
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Holgater Posted on 03/12/2019 17:56

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
Yes.
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atypical_boro Posted on 03/12/2019 18:02
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Do you want Gibson out of the club?
Well I think you're reading far too much into it.

This was purely about gaining some insight as to just how many people would go as far as saying they want him out. It really isn't anything more contrived than that, and I haven't offered any retort to anyone saying they want him out.
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Greenandblack Posted on 03/12/2019 18:03

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
Finding someone stupid enough to pour in even more money than Steve Gibson has won't help because the FFP regs will still be the obstacle.

So many people think the club is a shambles because Woodgate can't motivate the players. I have no idea whether it's shambolic or not, but I'm pretty sure that running a football club is a very difficult task and for geographic reasons, even harder for MFC.
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Evil Posted on 03/12/2019 18:24

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
Absolutely not, but he needs some better people around him because out of the last umpteen appointments and decisions he's made, he's not got many right.
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Tuncays_Cat Posted on 03/12/2019 18:26

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
No.

However clear out required in the way of club executives and recruitment.

Gibson doesn’t have the time to micro manage every decision made by the club. He has multiple other companies. Those he has trusted with overseeing the club (esp recruitment) have let him down.
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canyoudigit Posted on 03/12/2019 18:29

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
4 Nos from the season card holders in our house.
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Richyboro Posted on 03/12/2019 18:44

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
No but as Tuncay says...could do with a clear out like promised.
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myfooty Posted on 03/12/2019 18:54
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Do you want Gibson out of the club?
No. Only a idiot would want him out of the club after what he done for the club.
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dragged_up_in_whinneybanks Posted on 03/12/2019 19:17

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
Gibbo - No

Everyone else at the club - Yes
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Indeedido Posted on 03/12/2019 19:37

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
"Well I think you're reading far too much into it."
[:D] righto.
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FrozenHorse Posted on 03/12/2019 19:40

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
No.

He won't be here for ever though. As long as his replacement is a lifelong fan, I don't care if he doesn't have a penny to put into the club.
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festa5 Posted on 03/12/2019 19:44

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
No.

But he needs to concentrate on the financial side and bring someone in (like Kenyon) to make the footballing decisions because he clearly hasn't got a clue on that front. Easily duped by a fancy PowerPoint presentation and people telling him what he wants to hear it seems.
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BoroGold2 Posted on 03/12/2019 19:44

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
100%....... NO !
I have supported Boro since the Thomas Brothers were Chairmen in the mid-fifties Gibbo has given me more enjoyment than the rest of them put together from that time until now. Plus our first and only trophy, albeit the smaller one.
Be careful what you wish for, Gibbo has as much love for the club as any of us and in most cases far more. He will be hurting as much as we are.
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coluka Posted on 03/12/2019 19:49

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
“So many people think the club is a shambles because Woodgate can't motivate the players”

I really do not think it is as simplistic as you made that sound.

Many people recognise the mistakes pretty much stem from the day we drew with Brighton. Appalling recruitment window after window. £M thrown at it on rank average players in the main that lack the attributes a successful team needs. We are on our 5th manager in two and a three quarter years.
The managers are not responsible for their appointment
The managers were not given blank cheques
The managers did not negotiate transfer fees
The managers did not negotiate salaries

I have said consistantly that the summer 2016 signings were inadequate the January 2017 signings lacked the fit needed (pace creativity) and every window since.

The chairman is responsible for all of this, his club, his money, his veto.

Nobody I know wanted Woody, but he is here for a reason. He is looking naive in the extreme, not his fault he was given a golden ticket. Most of us would have said yes for the shot Woody was given.

I really worry that Gibson will drag it out long enough for Woody to be seen as the fall guy while he tries to be the saviour again. I hope i am wrong. He stands to lose a lot more if we go down and it must be a nightmare for Gibson tbf. However, nobody should be under any illusion that the decisions that have us where we are are not just the ones on the pitch.
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glover_elbow Posted on 03/12/2019 20:01

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They have trimmed down off field staff as much as playing staff. Meeting FFP is so so hard to achieve.

Rob Its only hard to achieve because gibson has XXXXXXed up and gambled on dross . Its his mess created by his own stupid decisions. Monk pulis woodgate being 3 of the biggest mistakes
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r00fie1 Posted on 03/12/2019 20:08

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Yes and No.....
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festa5 Posted on 03/12/2019 20:15

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Precisely Glover. FFP is probably a bit easier to achieve if you prevent managers wasting £7m on players like Fletcher and Saville.

Players that the vast majority of supporters knew were overpriced and whose clubs couldn't believe their luck we were willing to pay that money for them (and pretty much said so publicly).
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expat_smoggie Posted on 03/12/2019 20:59

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Have to agree with Coraigh — I just think that SG has lost his love for the game — I got the feeling that the last promotion was his last hurrah and had we’d stayed up and I think he’d have sold up lock stock and barrel. He’s been at the helm since the 80s so it shouldn’t come as much of a surprise. If we stay up this season expect an exit of some sorts.
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manhead Posted on 03/12/2019 20:59

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No.

Some advice from someone who is more on the ball with modern football but gibbo is the best thing to ever happen to MFC, in fact, he is MFC.

Every season he digs deep to fill the financial void. Many many others would have given up by now.
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Greenandblack Posted on 03/12/2019 22:12

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***FFP is probably a bit easier to achieve if you prevent managers wasting £7m on players like Fletcher and Saville.***

There are probably lots of players the club would have signed if it could. But if those players just don't want to join, you have to find others.

Assombalonga and co haven't been value for money but we know that through the retrospectoscope. Every day people post names on here of players who could or should be signed. How do we know they'd be any better?

We don't. When you sign players you run the risk of them not working out. Don't blame the club or Steve Gibson for Assombalonga not being able to hit a barn door.
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SmoggyOnTheSolent Posted on 03/12/2019 22:14

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No

But I would like a more modern director to come in and offer the club more direction.
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Rayman Posted on 03/12/2019 22:23

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
Obviously not.
Ludicrous idea.
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Corco65 Posted on 03/12/2019 22:44
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Do you want Gibson out of the club?
NOOOOOOOOOOO

Those that do, make him an offer he can't refuse, invest your own money and see how far you get before the stick starts.

Running a football club is a very, very complex task, the way people pass judgement on here they make it seem so simple, just as easy as managing the team! Yes he's made mistakes along with the rest of us, but they have been his to make with his money. I have no doubt he still has the best of interests and intentions for the Boro and for his own investment, why wouldn't he?

When it comes to Boro and legends he is the one, saving the club, building a new purpose built all seated stadium, investing millions upon millions, financing a string of world class players, taking Boro to a number of domestic cup finals and a EUROPEAN final, all only possible because of one man.

Yes we are going through a disappointing period but never lose sight of what he's done and i for one have no doubt he will do again.
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Duffman Posted on 03/12/2019 22:48

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
In a word - No
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Badger_ Posted on 03/12/2019 23:34

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
No
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uncle_rico Posted on 03/12/2019 23:47

Do you want Gibson out of the club?
No from me, but he needs to stop surrounding himself with yes men.
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bblf Posted on 04/12/2019 00:08

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No
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festa5 Posted on 04/12/2019 02:12

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Every club makes dud signings greenandblack. No argument here on that front.

But Fletcher and Saville weren't just poor vfm signings with hindsight. Everyone knew they were at the time. They were also in positions that didn't need strengthening which makes them even more bizarre.

Saville in particular was mental. We must have known the financial situation we were in when we signed him. I just can't fathom the logic. Widely acknowledged as a fairly standard championship midfielder, in a position we didn't really need added to a team "not good enough for promotion" (in the managers own words) because it didn't have good enough wide players. Utterly bizarre.
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