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chopper Posted on 02/12/2019 13:05
I genuinely want Woody to stay on and get it right
 
Changing manager now would be like jumping out of the frying pan and into the fire.
SG has decided to go with youth and relatively little managerial experience and I applaud him for this. The last thing I want to see is my beloved club being run by another aged past their best manager, like the last one we had.
We have to accept that we are stuck in the Championship and get used to it so set your expectations accordingly.

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London_Boro Posted on 02/12/2019 13:13

I genuinely want Woody to stay on and get it right
Ideally am sure everyone would want that also, I do! But it's looking increasingly less likely.
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Evil Posted on 02/12/2019 13:14

I genuinely want Woody to stay on and get it right
An ideal world would see us sticking with Woody, us not getting pasted or even looking like a football team each week and have a surge towards the play offs.

The reality is, we're in freefall, similar to the last 6-8 months of Mowbrays reign and if we go to league 1, we're not going to recover from that.
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ovy1 Posted on 02/12/2019 13:15

I genuinely want Woody to stay on and get it right
Chopper, the way it is going we wont be stuck in the Championship!!
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merrykoala Posted on 02/12/2019 13:17

I genuinely want Woody to stay on and get it right
Faulty logic on a few levels.

Pulis may have been past his best, it's still 10 times better than what Gibson put in his place.

Gibson didn't appoint Woodgate because he was exciting and creative, he appointed him because he was cheap and malleable.

We need someone in now that can steady the ship, that might sound like a cliché but it's true. If we give Woodgate his time we'll be sitting mid table in league 1 next year selling more players, losing more fans and begging for a Pulis/Warnock type to bail us out and we won't be able to get them.

We'd all love an exciting manager that puts on world class football week in week out, we don't get that without having the basics right, an attractive club with a good transfer budget and a decent league position.
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atypical_boro Posted on 02/12/2019 13:19

I genuinely want Woody to stay on and get it right
I never wanted Woody but on his appointment, I was apathetic and accepted that we should give him a chance (though I am one of few who found his opening press conference far from convincing). I said I would never get on his back unless he took us into the bottom 6, and I genuinely thought that, although we'd likely have a mediocre season, that wouldn't happen.

Until now I've still kept quiet, but the fact is there are better options out there and I don't care about 'long term plans' at the expense of failing short term plans. We need some results fairly imminently and I don't care how they come or who delivers them. [^]
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Nero Posted on 02/12/2019 13:44

I genuinely want Woody to stay on and get it right
The majority on here didn't want Woodgate and predicted this situation. There must have been a few better qualified and experienced for the job.

Woodgate is doing what Monk was sacked for. Abandoning a style he claimed to want to implement when he couldn't do it.

Let's hope the likes of Barnsley, Charlton , Wigan and Stoke continue being as bad as Boro. That's probably the only hope of avoiding relegation.
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coluka Posted on 02/12/2019 14:13

I genuinely want Woody to stay on and get it right
Agree Nero, although I would add that I don’t believe the style stated at Woodgates unveiling was his idea. I believe (rightly or wrongly) that it is Gibson’s vision and strategy and that Woodgate is his spokesman.

I don’t blame Woody for the mess, although he is clearly culpable too. In my opinion, the blame lies at the top with Gibson. This mess is all of his making. He sacked Karanka (in my opinion wrongly) and has lurched from crisis to crisis ever since. Panic decisions, panic buying and selling. It seems he can not see the woods for the trees. He has surrounded himself with yes men by the looks of it anyway and what he needs is someone who will be truthful even if it hurts his ego
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NYboro Posted on 02/12/2019 14:22

I genuinely want Woody to stay on and get it right
"an attractive club with a good transfer budget"

The reality of FFP is that we don't get big enough gates for a good transfer budget.
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Nero Posted on 02/12/2019 14:25

I genuinely want Woody to stay on and get it right
Coluka - Completely agree regarding the decisions. It's bizarre how often a bad decision has been made.

For a short period we seemed to have entered a new chapter with Karanka. That was short lived. For what it's worth I think sacking him was correct. Not replacing him was shockingly bad.
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wilkos_perm Posted on 02/12/2019 14:39

I genuinely want Woody to stay on and get it right
Totally agree Nero. When we brought in Karanka, and then Orta, it seemed like Gibson was trying to overhaul the club and bring it into modern times (via advice from Kenyon). Yet when they were gone he seemed to rip all that up and lurch to three completely different approaches with Monk, Pulis and Woodgate.

Regarding the OP there is absolutely no good argument that can be made for the appointment made in the summer. What do you applaud bout going with no experience in the management team? What other business with that much money coming in and out the door would take that approach? Especially at a time when the squad is quite thin and inexperienced.
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Cuthbert Posted on 02/12/2019 14:44

I genuinely want Woody to stay on and get it right
I actually agree with the O.P. I also think we'll stay up with Woodgate FWIW. That said, we do need to sort out the injury problem.

BIG game against Charlton next weekend. I was looking at the current form tables yesterday, and Charlton's is even worse than ours. If we can get a couple/ few of the injured guys back, Charlton should be well beatable.
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JLinardi Posted on 02/12/2019 14:56

I genuinely want Woody to stay on and get it right
Do we still think that ‘new era’ stuff from the press conference was actually true? It was all just words and there has never been any evidence to back it up. It was all coded messages, ‘Youth’ meaning we can’t afford to buy so will use academy players etc.
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Derek_Duvall Posted on 02/12/2019 15:05

I genuinely want Woody to stay on and get it right
I genuinely want Woody to leave today and for us to get a proper manager.
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WoodallServices Posted on 02/12/2019 15:24

I genuinely want Woody to stay on and get it right
I agree with the OP and London_Boro but he’s been dealt a sh1tty stick and I don’t think he’ll get the reinforcements needed in January to achieve it.
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American_Mary Posted on 02/12/2019 15:41

I genuinely want Woody to stay on and get it right
The sad reality is that 4 months into the season we have no real pattern of play and no real signs of being able to find a system that will get the best out of what we have, any young manager needs to have a bit of luck at the start of their career and I would say that Woodgate hasn’t been that fortunate with injuries and suspensions but that said by now we should have a system in place that reduces the impact of those misfortunes, we have thrown away 9 points in the last 15 minutes in games and gained none, that would indicate that we lack either mentality or fitness, both of which are very much part of the head coaches job to make sure any team they send out has.

We’ve played well in patches and have looked a half decent side at times but those flashes haven’t been sustained and in a results based industry failing to get points in games you should win is not going to end well for the coaching team involved.
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andyponte Posted on 02/12/2019 18:56

I genuinely want Woody to stay on and get it right
Will he get it right in League 2? Because that is where we are heading i fear !!
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icarus1965 Posted on 04/12/2019 17:39

I genuinely want Woody to stay on and get it right
If you wait for Woodgate to get it right, we,ll be none league by then !
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rob_fmttm Posted on 04/12/2019 17:59

I genuinely want Woody to stay on and get it right
I think he will do it.
We were hammered at Leeds with a much patched up side - but the win v Barnsley and the should -have-been-a-win against Hull City coming after a fighting draw away at QPR are points in the right direction.
The players are fighting for survival under Woodgate and I hope that buys him the time to develop further as a Head Coach.
My personal view - I want him to succeed and think he can save us from relegation and then we rebuild from there.
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wobbleyhead Posted on 04/12/2019 21:05

I genuinely want Woody to stay on and get it right
Well said Rob ,I too want him to succeed injuries to a thin squad havnt really helped him . we're having to play one of our best MF at RB in Howson which would make us more Dynamic along side Mcnair . The loss of both Shotton and Friend have not helped once injuries have cleared and with a couple of new additions I am sure things will make a turn for the better
UTB !!
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CardiffDaffs Posted on 05/12/2019 06:35

I genuinely want Woody to stay on and get it right
Me too. When you hear the alternative names being bandied about then more so.
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