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Lefty Posted on 08/11/2019 16:46
Jacob Rees-Mogg 1997
 
Just a reminder that in 1997 Jacob Rees-Mogg went canvassing as a Tory candidate in Fife with his nanny, in a Bentley.



Link: man of the people
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jam69 Posted on 08/11/2019 16:52

Jacob Rees-Mogg 1997
yeah but brexit means brexit
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London_Boro Posted on 08/11/2019 16:55

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Best comment on that twitter thread....

"Bitty"
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Fabios_porkpie_provider Posted on 08/11/2019 18:29

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Quite how we’ve got to a point where so many working class people think that vile man and his ilk represent their interests better than those in Labour is unbelievable and desperately sad.
The modern media is truly disgusting.
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Richyboro Posted on 08/11/2019 18:35

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Fabio [^]
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Cuthbert Posted on 08/11/2019 18:41

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With his nanny? When he was 28 years old. Yeah right.

I suspect the tweet is just implying that he's posh (mentioning nannies and Bentleys) rather than being factually correct.
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BoroFur Posted on 08/11/2019 18:43

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It's true Cuthbert.
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Old-boot Posted on 08/11/2019 18:46

Jacob Rees-Mogg 1997
So were supposed to hold him in contempt for having a Bentley 22 years ago? Bizarre!
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Cuthbert Posted on 08/11/2019 18:48
Edited On: 08/11/2019 18:48
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OK... my mistake then! (Just seemed likely to be Twitter b*ll*cks).

I'll do a bit more reading about it [:D]

I guess there's no reason he couldn't still be in contact with his nanny at 28... even if she wasn't still wiping his bottom!! [^][:(]
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Small_town Posted on 08/11/2019 18:50

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Apparently he didn’t use the Bentley. He took a Merc to be discreet
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sheriff_john_bunnell Posted on 08/11/2019 20:16

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Some people are posh
Some people are chavvy
Some people are black
Some people are white
Some people are gay
Some people are straight
Some people are men
Some people are women
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jam69 Posted on 08/11/2019 20:37

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and some take their Nanny canvassing, well when I say some I can only think of one.
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jimstewart Posted on 08/11/2019 22:31

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Does this come as some massive surprise? He’s very posh. He’s very Tory. We know, everyone does.
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since1970 Posted on 09/11/2019 05:55

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"Quite how we’ve got to a point where so many working class people think that vile man and his ilk represent their interests better than those in Labour is unbelievable and desperately sad."

Yeah. The working-class should be subservient to middle-class, metropolitan marxists ONLY. [rle]
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Fabios_porkpie_provider Posted on 09/11/2019 06:42

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Actually since1970, I think you’ll find the working class shouldn’t be subservient to ANYONE....
There is certainly one ‘breed’ of politician that believe they should be, however, and it’s not the type you allude to.
But you already know that.
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Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 09/11/2019 07:40

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sinxe1979 clearly feels he should be

Know your place?
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Cuthbert Posted on 09/11/2019 09:57
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bear66 Posted on 09/11/2019 10:00

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"You don't HAVE to vote Labour your entire life, just because you're from a working class background."

I come from a working class background and have only voted Labour once in 13 GEs. So I know you don't HAVE to.
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Fabios_porkpie_provider Posted on 09/11/2019 11:03

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"You don't HAVE to vote Labour your entire life, just because you're from a working class background."

I’m pretty sure it works both ways. In fact, I’m pretty sure that those who are born into typical Tory, wealthy, inherited, households are more likely to vote Tory forever than the working class are likely to vote labour forever.
I have only voted labour once and consider myself working class, but as I grew older I learnt to look at the bigger picture beyond the media and do my own research, which led me to the realisation that I am highly unlikely to ever vote Tory in my lifetime. Largely because I believe in a fairer society and that those at the bottom shouldn’t be repeatedly manipulated, punished and kept on their knees to the benefit of those at the top.
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TerryWay Posted on 09/11/2019 11:31

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I wonder if being raised by nanny as a child played a significant part in him growing up soulless.
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UKLL1981 Posted on 09/11/2019 12:13
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Salt of the earth, man of the people that Corbyn, million pound pension pot, £143k a year and a childhood slumming it growing up in a Manor House [rle]

Not defending Mogg but anyone that believes the ‘for the many not the few’ XXXXXX that comes out of Corbyn’s mouth is either deluded or retarded.

I’ll happily stand there and moan about inequality and injustice without offering anything constructive for 143k a year, where do I sign up?

A fairer society wouldn’t involve the leader of the opposition and someone not even in power creaming off nearly £150k but sure let’s just hammer the rich to pay for everything, you know the richest 1% who already pay a third of all income tax generated.
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bear66 Posted on 09/11/2019 12:19

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I hadn't realised he's so poor. He's gone up in my estimation. I presumed he had outside interests of £millions a year like most of the cabinet.
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Cuthbert Posted on 09/11/2019 12:42

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I deleted my post above almost straight away, as I decided not to get sucked in to a political debate!! However, since a couple of you responded quickly...

My point was that it's OK to move further left (or further right)... from a starting point that lots of us get initially from our parents!
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UKLL1981 Posted on 09/11/2019 14:42

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I honestly think people get more right wing as they get older, I also think there’s very few people that actually fit purely into one category. I’m actually really liberal in a lot of my views and I’m very pro choice but I’m a right wing nazi according to the Labour activists on here because I refuse to vote for them.
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Lefty Posted on 09/11/2019 22:05

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I think I’ve seen research measuring a population becoming 0.2% more conservative with age.

I wonder about whether that actually means more likely to vote Conservative. It might translate to sticking with what you have always been comfortable with.
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keelo Posted on 09/11/2019 22:14

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Fabios_porkpie_provider ...100% correct...👍 Fkn JRM what is an idiot like home doing in politics......oh ,hang on,he's a Tory, and just another complete fkn idiot....grow up electorate ffs
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BessemerConvertor Posted on 09/11/2019 22:54

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Having seen the increasing bids on nursery provision for children from the Tory, Labour and Liberal parties, I suggest the Monster Raving Looney Party trumps them all by proposing a state funded Nanny for all children to ensure equality for all on the basis if its good for the JRM and the other toffs.... After all, if I choose only to have the children I can afford to support, why not be in for a pound rather than a penny in funding those who have children they are unable or unwilling to support themselves?
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billyzin Posted on 09/11/2019 23:18

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Which benchmarks would you apply to parenthood versus income?
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BessemerConvertor Posted on 10/11/2019 18:24

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It is for individuals to decide whether it is appropriate for them to have children and for their children to prosper or suffer as a result. It is clear to me that it is in any child's best interests for its parents to be clear they can provide for them. I don't mean be rich, I mean to be sure they can feed, cloth and educate them in (in the roundest sense of the term).
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BessemerConvertor Posted on 10/11/2019 22:11

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Billyzin, It would be interesting to hear your views on the same subject. In particular, do you think it is in a child's best interests for its parents to bring it into the world without a reasonable plan to provide for the child themselves?
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bear66 Posted on 10/11/2019 22:14

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Let's start with the Royal Family and move forward from there afterwards.
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BessemerConvertor Posted on 10/11/2019 22:39

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Bear 66 - Members of the Royal Family can be pretty sure they can support their children using the Sovereign Grant or their private wealth. There is a reasonable argument that the public should not fund the Royals but I am not aware of any political party which advocates that public funding should be withdrawn. My point relates to people having children knowing they can't, or are unlikely to be able, to support them.
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Lefty Posted on 11/11/2019 02:49

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Seems like a fairly sensible thing to do in an ageing population to assist rather than discourage children.
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br14 Posted on 11/11/2019 03:50

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"Seems like a fairly sensible thing to do in an ageing population to assist rather than discourage children."

The population of the UK is growing at the rate of 5% every ten years.

It's already the 5th most densely populated country on earth (by habitable land).

The UK doesn't need more population growth. It can't handle the current rate of growth.

All those old stats about the boomers etc. have gone out of the window over the past 20 years. 77.5% of the population is under 60.

And it's not forecast to grow any slower so I wouldn't worry - population growth is the problem. Not an aging population.
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Colgates_shaving_foam Posted on 11/11/2019 04:10

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The day i'd consider voting tory is the day i 'die in a ditch' and unlike Boris i'll stick to that.

They're all shi* at the moment, i think labour are the least worst or maybe lib dems. tories are toxic.

On Rees-Mogg, someone should have walked accross the house and shaken him when he was doing his whole im too good to listen to this debate schtick, best part of him was spaffed on his nanny's tit*
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Lefty Posted on 11/11/2019 15:53

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Br14

Our ageing population is a major problem.

Link: Govt Office For Science report
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bear66 Posted on 11/11/2019 16:06

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"It's already the 5th most densely populated country on earth (by habitable land)"

Have you got a link to that @br14? I've googled but can't find one. Lots of links trying to define habitable though. I was surprised to find out that less than 2% of the UK is built on (roads, houses, businesses).

There was an interesting point made on the Today programme today. The burden on the NHS has been decreasing for over-65s but increasing for under-65s in recent years.
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Lefty Posted on 13/11/2019 15:49

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It's looking dicey for the haunted pencil [^]

North East Somerset, constituency voting intention:

LDEM: 39% (+29)
CON: 39% (-14)
LAB: 18% (-17)
GRN: 5% (+3)
IND: 1% (+1)

via @YouGov, 6-10 Nov
Chgs w/ GE2017

Portillo moment?
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