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Pogatetz_Ate_My_Hamster_ Posted on 06/11/2019 09:25
Tory Party chairman empty chaired on Sky News
 
Fresh from his car crash appearance on Good Morning Britain, he was due to appear on Kay Burley’s Sky News show.

However he refused to appear (presumably didn’t like what she was going to ask him) so stood 15 feet away as she empty chaired on.

Questions were to be about,
- Johnson comparing Corbyn to Stalin
- Why Jacob Rees Mogg is still in Cabinet after Grenfell comments
- Calls for Welsh Secretary to resign
- Row over whether transition period to be extended if no deal agreed in 2020
- Row over attempts to get officials to cost Labour policies
- Row over failure to release report on Russian interference
- Whether it's a good idea to defend billionaires

Link: Empty Chair
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throughthickandthin Posted on 06/11/2019 09:28

Tory Party chairman empty chaired on Sky News
Sounds to me like the left wing lot are getting nervous about the election results. I wonder why? [:D]
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Pogatetz_Ate_My_Hamster_ Posted on 06/11/2019 09:29

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That well known left wing news organisation.....Sky News[:D]
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throughthickandthin Posted on 06/11/2019 09:30

Tory Party chairman empty chaired on Sky News
None as blind as those who refuse to see!
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uncle_rico Posted on 06/11/2019 09:32

Tory Party chairman empty chaired on Sky News
Meanwhile Swinson and Starmer show themselves up on national TV and not a peep from the lefty luvvies.

There's an obsession on this board of trying to show Brexiteer MP's up odue the Remainers being even more of an embarrassment.
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Fabios_porkpie_provider Posted on 06/11/2019 09:32

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Oh dear, campaigning is really not starting off very well for the Tories.
Every interviewer should ask every Tory the exact same questions as she listed.
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Pogatetz_Ate_My_Hamster_ Posted on 06/11/2019 09:33

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“ Meanwhile Swinson and Starmer show themselves up on national TV and not a peep from the lefty luvvies.”

Would that be the Starmer video the Tories doctored?
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Fabios_porkpie_provider Posted on 06/11/2019 09:33
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Absolute load of tosh Uncle Rico.
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joebolton Posted on 06/11/2019 09:38

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Most voter couldnt care less about those questions or the answers.
Priorities are

Brexit do or dont
Economy
Immigration
Law and order
Nhs




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Fabios_porkpie_provider Posted on 06/11/2019 09:47

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Quite right JoeBolton. Their record on each of those issues is absolutely appalling so they should be discussed too.
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lapennabianca Posted on 06/11/2019 09:49

Tory Party chairman empty chaired on Sky News

If you believe that Starmer video, you're even dafter than your accumulated posts on here have led us to believe.
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TrickBag Posted on 06/11/2019 09:52

Tory Party chairman empty chaired on Sky News
For the fans of Kay Burley he was actually conducting a pre-booked interview on LBC at that time.
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Cooper6711 Posted on 06/11/2019 09:58

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Don’t let facts like that get in the way TrickBag

Luciana Berger also getting grilled about the Lib Dem leaflets and looking like idiot she is. Missed that part of too
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TrickBag Posted on 06/11/2019 10:04

Tory Party chairman empty chaired on Sky News
The real circumstance is that the slavish tribalists will ridicule the vacuous Burley when she pulls her stunts on their team but deify her when she embarrasses the other team.

That's where we're at[|)]
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WeeGord Posted on 06/11/2019 10:04

Tory Party chairman empty chaired on Sky News
Believing the lies and spin from Tory HQ already? She stated live on air that he was standing 15 ft away from her.

If she was lying then surely they'll take Sky and Kaye Burley to task on it?

Or have you just fallen for the constant crap from the Tories?
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WeeGord Posted on 06/11/2019 10:07

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Rutters, if that's your stance I wonder what your thoughts are on the scandalous Rees-Mogg / Bridgen comments?

How about the CONSTANT lies from your God Boris Johnson?
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TrickBag Posted on 06/11/2019 10:09
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Calm down man...I was listening to him at the time[rle]


I presume 'Rutters' was some other poster who made you very angry?

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throughthickandthin Posted on 06/11/2019 10:10

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You lot are definitely rattled.
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Pogatetz_Ate_My_Hamster_ Posted on 06/11/2019 10:15

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“ For the fans of Kay Burley he was actually conducting a pre-booked interview on LBC at that time.

Calm down man...I was listening to him at the time[rle]

Clearly not because he claims he was on talkRadio at the time[:D]

He was 15 feet away, and refused to go on camera and then a hastily arranged phoned-in interview with the Pound Shop Hopkins (Julia Hartley Brewer) to try and cover for the fact he’s dodged scrutiny.
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jam69 Posted on 06/11/2019 10:36

Tory Party chairman empty chaired on Sky News
trickbag moaning about tribalists whilst batting for one side as always.
who should working class white folk vote for in the upcoming election trickbag?
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GazC_MFC Posted on 06/11/2019 10:37

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If Carlsberg did pre launch material, this wouldn’t be it.

Disastrous start for the tories

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throughthickandthin Posted on 06/11/2019 10:38

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People should vote for whichever party they most closely align with. That's how it tend s to work.
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Ticker_Tape Posted on 06/11/2019 10:41

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Ah smoggieboys best mates back[xx(]
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Fabios_porkpie_provider Posted on 06/11/2019 11:03

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For someone so intelligent and eloquent, you really do miss the point very frequently Trickbag.[?]
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keelo Posted on 06/11/2019 11:07

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Fabios_porkpie_provider I think the NHS should be a mile above worrying about sodding Brexit btw
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Fabios_porkpie_provider Posted on 06/11/2019 11:45

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I agree Keelo.
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Fabios_porkpie_provider Posted on 06/11/2019 11:49

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I agree Keelo.
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Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 06/11/2019 11:49

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throughthickandthin, you don't know which one you're more closely aligned with.
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TrickBag Posted on 06/11/2019 11:52

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@Fab/foo

I wish I could return the compliment

@jam I think they should vote for a party who represents all of them rather than identifiable sections within them.

It's pretty obvious which tribe you slavishly head-nod along to but which is my tribe?

@pamh

My mistake, it was TalkRadio
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Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 06/11/2019 11:56

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You won't commit to supporting any party. Do you get involved, who knows, you're pretty coy when it comes to any aims, barring one.
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Fabios_porkpie_provider Posted on 06/11/2019 12:03

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Trickbag, do you work for the Conservative party?
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TrickBag Posted on 06/11/2019 12:06

Tory Party chairman somewhere else
I don't commit to supporting any party because I'm not committed to supporting any party because you become an unquestioning head-nodder who becomes conditioned into committedly supporting your party.

Why is that so difficult to for tribalists understand?
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Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 06/11/2019 12:07
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Tory Party chairman empty chaired on Sky News
He wouldn't admit to it if he did. He constantly criticises the Labour Party, his 'party'. I haven't seen him knock the other parties.

So he's become a head nodder himself, he regurgitates arguments from other parties.

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TrickBag Posted on 06/11/2019 12:10

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...or you are so lacking in self-esteem that you invent multiple usernames to troll conversations that you are intellectually unable to contribute to[:D]
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jam69 Posted on 06/11/2019 12:12

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of course you dont share your political views on political threads as that would leave your views open to scrutiny, you will just continue to knock one side only.
quick to say who not to vote for, shy on who to vote for.
so who will get your vote trickbag?
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Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 06/11/2019 12:12

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Contributing isn't exactly your strong point.
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TrickBag Posted on 06/11/2019 12:12

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...as if to prove the point[rle]
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jam69 Posted on 06/11/2019 12:15

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and another question dodged.multiple usernames same old charade
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1finny Posted on 06/11/2019 12:17

Tory Party chairman somewhere else
This isn’t a ‘disaster’ for the Tories.
Most of it hardly matters apart to a few.
Example
The Starmer doctored interview has already achieved its’ goal’. Lots of people saw it and believed it.
Those who have found the lie wouldn’t have voted for them anyway.
The telegraph headlines have done the damage today too - loads of coverage which will help sway more people away from JC.

Politicians have done a job on us - lying is ok.
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TrickBag Posted on 06/11/2019 12:33

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@jam

unlike yourself I only have one username and if you could just temporarily prorogue your furious head-nodding even you could have worked out that I find no party worthy of my vote.

One day you'll see that you're really not helping.
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Fabios_porkpie_provider Posted on 06/11/2019 12:34

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Trickbag, not even you believe I’m Foomanboro so it’s just as futile for you to try and sew that seed, as it is for you to pretend you are politically neutral.
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jam69 Posted on 06/11/2019 12:43

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trickbag I asked you a question the other day, you replied that you had answered me umpteen times , i had only asked you it once, but other usernames with similar views a few times, it's not exactly rocket science.
if you don't favour any party why on earth do you only ever knock one?
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Fabios_porkpie_provider Posted on 06/11/2019 12:58

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Waste of time Jam. He’ll not answer.
When he’s beaten he rolls out the distract and distrust technique of claiming you have multiple usernames.
Even he doesn’t believe it. He knows those he accuses are not one and the same.

The accusation of multiple usernames levelled at him is actually fact though, and evidence can be found for it relatively easily, littered throughout his posts under his alter-egos from down the years.

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fluorescent_smog Posted on 06/11/2019 13:31

Tory Party chairman somewhere else
"Contributing isn't exactly your strong point."

Says the poster who contributes bugger all but snidey, sarcastic comments.
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MightyDuck Posted on 06/11/2019 13:33

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I don't think I've ever seen anyone perform so badly in an interview as James Cleverly did on GMB this morning.
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plazmuh Posted on 06/11/2019 13:50

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Whats funny is WHY so many on here think

the election is about Brexitt..

It has not dawned on any of you that it was a

Conservative Vote splitting idea in the first place..

But dont let that sway you one way or the other..

Its why it was in their last Manifesto overlooked by you all.
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TrickBag Posted on 06/11/2019 14:00
Edited On: 06/11/2019 14:18
Post Truth Era
'if you don't favour any party why on earth do you only ever knock one?'

Because there's only one which concerns me. There's only one I SHOULD be voting for but can't.

Unlike yourself I do question it's very raison d'etre and do hold it against my own beliefs. The party changed, not me.

There's plenty like me, that's why Labour aren't streets ahead. And every time you call us racist, misogynist, cap-doffing, know your betters, knuckle-dragging gammon you exponentially diminish the chance of us ever returning.

*And my point was that I have replied several times implicitly...but that just might be rocket science.


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TrickBag Posted on 06/11/2019 14:04

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Foo/Fab

You contribute absolutely nothing, because you can't.

You foul up every thread you appear in with your trolling.

If you weren't a Labour supporter you'd have been banned a long, long time ago.

It's childish and tedious. Please don't reply unless you have something relevant to the thread.
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jam69 Posted on 06/11/2019 14:27

Post Truth Era
when did they move away from you? have they not moved back towards where they were before new labour? despite the actions your against are they still not a better alternative to a tory party that's lurched further right?
they was lots I didn't like about new labour and some I don't like about the current party but overall they offer a better future than the only other alternative
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TheFair86 Posted on 06/11/2019 14:34

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Plenty of non labour supporters on here do that banned, such an utter trite argument to fall back on.
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Fabios_porkpie_provider Posted on 06/11/2019 14:40
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Post Truth Era
Banned for what exactly, Tricky? Trolling a long term, multi-username, frequently banned, transparent right wing spammer who only ever posts with malicious intent under the guise of pretending he wants a debate? A known liar who never answers questions put to him, who only wants to debate so long as he can steer it round to his ever-transparent anti-left agenda?
Guilty as charged! Ban away!
Gave up trying to debate with you years ago, as soon as I sussed out what you are and what your sole purpose and aim is here. Get more pleasure from poking you from time to time, under any of your names, simply to remind you that you don’t fool everyone on here.
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throughthickandthin Posted on 06/11/2019 14:44

Post Truth Era
The labour supporters on here are very aggressive and angry. Not a fair representation of labour supporters in general. Surely being civil and debating with respect is more productive than ranting like you all are on here?
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jam69 Posted on 06/11/2019 14:50

Post Truth Era
dont think i have ever been aggressive and angry on here ever, not even after festas wrongly disallowed goal.
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throughthickandthin Posted on 06/11/2019 14:56

Post Truth Era
You are. Regularly.
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jam69 Posted on 06/11/2019 14:58

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when? you got a example ?
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Ticker_Tape Posted on 06/11/2019 14:59

Post Truth Era
Cuthbert rainbow[xx(]
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Derek_Duvall Posted on 06/11/2019 15:02

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Through thick and thin.

Maggie Thatcher rules is back with another username. This should be fun.
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TrickBag Posted on 06/11/2019 15:20

Post Truth Era
'when did they move away from you?'

When the Marxism became cultural. When they adopted postmodernism. When they became identitarian. When it populated itself with ideologues who advocated exclusively for specified groups

When campaigning for the rights of women, black, LGBT, trans, minority rights became more important than the working class as a collective.

You've heard of 'Divide and Rule'?
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Ticker_Tape Posted on 06/11/2019 15:25

Post Truth Era
Jordan Peterson[:D]
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Fabios_porkpie_provider Posted on 06/11/2019 15:26

Post Truth Era
‘When campaigning for the rights of women, black, LGBT, trans, minority rights became more important than the working class as a collective.‘

Tricky, do you believe that campaigning for the above groups really is more important to Labour than the working class? What evidence is there for this?

Do you believe it is not possible to campaign for the rights of all the groups above simultaneously?
If not, why do you think that it has to be one or the other?

Do you believe all of the groups above should be treated equally?
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Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 06/11/2019 16:42

Post Truth Era
One issue, every thread comes down to it.
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TrickBag Posted on 06/11/2019 17:02

Post Truth Era
Equality? Or Brexit?
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free_pint Posted on 06/11/2019 17:13

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'When the Marxism became cultural.'

Some nice antisemtic tropes there..
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Adi_Dem Posted on 06/11/2019 17:38

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Just to clear something up, it’s been definitely proven that Cleverly was not on any radio programme at the time he was being empty chaired by the horrendous Kay Burley. It’s another in a long line of lies coming out of the Tory party.
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Fabios_porkpie_provider Posted on 06/11/2019 17:40

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Yeah Adi, but Trickbag says........
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throughthickandthin Posted on 06/11/2019 18:10

Post Truth Era
Is this about senior labour mo Keir Starmer pocketing all that money by helping fo block brexit or am I slightly mixed up?
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Fabios_porkpie_provider Posted on 06/11/2019 18:27

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Yeah new guy, you are very mixed up.
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br14 Posted on 07/11/2019 04:09

Tory Party chairman empty chaired on Sky News
Quote from Burley.

‘I know that the spin doctors at Number 10 Downing Street had absolutely reassured me, via text, that when politicians were doing the rounds in the morning, they would be doing this programme, and yet we have an empty chair.’

She was just XXXXXXed that no one turned up and she had an empty segment. Cleverly had 7 interviews between 7 and 9.

Fact is you can't believe anything you read or hear on media (or this board for that matter).

You have to listen to the candidates themselves. Easy enough these days.
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Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 07/11/2019 07:28

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Easy enough by what, listening to doctored tapes?
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jam69 Posted on 07/11/2019 08:24

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I listened to a candidate the other day, the posh eccentric fella, h was trying to blame the deaths of those people who perished in the grenfel fire on their own stupidity, and then another candidate from the same party said he must be right because he's a very clever man.
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TrickBag Posted on 07/11/2019 08:38

Post Truth Era
The 'Post Truth Era' is one in which people on one side of a debate don't really care if something is true or not as long as it makes the other side look bad.

The more outraged you can appear about an issue the more embarrassing you can make it for your opponents.

And the more you can ridicule them personally, the more traction you get.
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WeeGord Posted on 07/11/2019 09:06

Post Truth Era
That seems to be a speciality of your side doesn't it Tricky?
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TrickBag Posted on 07/11/2019 09:23

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If you weren't so steeped in dogma you'd realise which side I'm actually on and if you set aside your anger and had a little think you'd realise that it's used by both sides WeeWee
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Fabios_porkpie_provider Posted on 07/11/2019 09:48

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‘which side I’m actually on’ [:D]

Don’t think anybody is in any doubt about that Tricky.
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TrickBag Posted on 07/11/2019 09:54

Foo/Fab/Troll
Yes, some people are quite 'limited' but then again, some are just trolls[smi]
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jam69 Posted on 07/11/2019 09:57

Foo/Fab/Troll
even taking into account your grievances with the current labour party tricky surely as a socialist you would rather them than the further drifting right wing tory party?
which are the only two viable outcomes
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TrickBag Posted on 07/11/2019 10:06

Foo/Fab/Troll
So you're asking if I should vote Labour because they're not as bad as the Tories? Because they discriminate less?

That might be good enough for you jammy, but not me.

TLP needs to change fundamentally otherwise it is doomed to powerlessness for the foreseeable and I'm not going to prop them up anymore until they do.
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jam69 Posted on 07/11/2019 10:16

Foo/Fab/Troll
sometimes the lesser option is the only option, whilst still fighting for what you believe? I prefer the current manifesto and standing over much of new labour, but still saw them as a better option than the Tories.
your never going to get a political party that ticks all yours(or anyones) boxes.
have you tried to change from within? join the party , find other like minded voters to influence policy?
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TrickBag Posted on 07/11/2019 10:32
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Foo/Fab/Troll
If you'd ever been in TLP you'd know how immutable it is and the 'like-minded voters' are the ones who've left, the one's who say they can't vote Labour any more, the ones you regularly call liars and the reason why Labour aren't streets ahead.

And the existing Labour voters, who slavishly accept what's going on and call those who've left 'racist, cap-doffing knuckle-draggers' means they ain't coming back any time soon.
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jam69 Posted on 07/11/2019 11:52

Foo/Fab/Troll
who on earth do I call liars? don't think I have ever used the term knuckle dragging racists. I will call out racism, and if people repeat right wing porkies like the Czech spy stuff I might just add cap doffer for taking it in. I think you can't remember who you have had spats with under all the usernames you have had in the past. but try and keep it factual.
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TrickBag Posted on 07/11/2019 12:12

Foo/Fab/Troll
The people you call 'Liars' are those who claim to be ex-Labour but renounce as 'shy-tories'.

'knuckle dragging racists' was used generically.

You use 'cap-doffer' with tedious regularity on a multitude of issues.

Unlike yourself I only have one username.

Finally, here's some racism for you to call out[^]







Link: I'll Watch
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Fabios_porkpie_provider Posted on 07/11/2019 19:48

Foo/Fab/Troll
’Unlike yourself I only have one username .....logged in and active at this precise moment in time. I’ve had many down the years mind you. All with the same gripes with the world and transparent, easy to spot agenda....’

There you go Remster, I’ve corrected that for you mate [^]
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TrickBag Posted on 07/11/2019 19:57

Foo/Fab/Troll
Thanks for your frank admission. It must be good to get it off your chest.

Now you should work on your self-esteem. Try being brave and posting something relevant to the topic at hand.

Trolling isn't the future. People won't laugh at you...honestly mate[^]
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Fabios_porkpie_provider Posted on 07/11/2019 19:58

Foo/Fab/Troll
Thanks for the advice Bruce 👍
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TrickBag Posted on 07/11/2019 20:18

Foo/Fab/Troll
No problem foo/terry/aqua/fab[smi]
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jam69 Posted on 07/11/2019 20:29

Foo/Fab/Troll
trickbag if your going to continue the only one name charade then so be it, but your fooling no one but yourself. maybe it's because you don't want to be associated with previous posts?
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Fabios_porkpie_provider Posted on 07/11/2019 20:47

Foo/Fab/Troll
Funny thing is, even you don’t believe I’m those people Tricky.
Whereas we all believe you’ve plenty of ‘previous’ OM here.
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TrickBag Posted on 07/11/2019 21:25

Foo/Fab/Troll
Just so reassuring when people have come to the end of their argument and all they have is trolling and username deflections[smi]

It's also a bit weird how they only mention usernames when it's someone with a different opinion to their own.

@jam

I'm still waiting for you to call out the racism on that link I sent you[^]
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Orion1 Posted on 07/11/2019 21:30

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"Just to clear something up, it’s been definitely proven that Cleverly was not on any radio programme at the time he was being empty chaired by the horrendous Kay Burley."

Except you've "cleared" up nothing as TalkRadio themselves have confirmed that Cleverly was preparing and participating in an interview with JHB, which he was booked for, at the time Burley did he little attention-seeking stunt.
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mikeyyyy Posted on 07/11/2019 22:33

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Is the "99%" Labour are fighting for a big enough collective?
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Fabios_porkpie_provider Posted on 07/11/2019 23:27

Post Truth Era
Ok Colinallcars, whatever you say,
Here’s one for you - do you ever wonder how I know your other usernames? Hmmmmmm
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Scrote Posted on 08/11/2019 01:55

Foo/Fab/Troll
"If you'd ever been in TLP you'd know how immutable it is and the 'like-minded voters' are the ones who've left..."

If it's immutable, why did they leave?
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br14 Posted on 08/11/2019 03:34

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"I listened to a candidate the other day, the posh eccentric fella, h was trying to blame the deaths of those people who perished in the Grenfell fire on their own stupidity"

That's stretching his comments a little too far.

The single biggest controllable factor that might have saved more lives during the Grenfell Tower disaster was if they had evacuated the building two hours before the call was finally made.

JRM actually said that in their position he'd probably have ignored the advice and have left the building. He then said it was common sense. He was not implying they were stupid.

And he was right about "common sense". You might compare the 9/11 disaster. Anyone who stayed in the buildings perished.

What he failed to understand is how anxiety and panic leads people to make poor decisions in such situations. Even "clever men" will make poor decisions under pressure. Especially when those who are supposed to know what to do give them patently poor advice.

But what kind of country is it where someone can make comments of concern at the outcome of a tragedy, and then because they make a remark said more in the sense of horror at the outcome than for any other reason, is spun into a fire storm of faux outrage for political reasons.
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Fabios_porkpie_provider Posted on 08/11/2019 07:26

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Nope, it’s not faux outrage br14. You are very wrong on this one. People seem too keen to defend the indefensible these days. What a mess.
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TrickBag Posted on 08/11/2019 09:20

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"If it's immutable, why did they leave?"

Because it's immutable[rle]
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ZippytheHippy Posted on 08/11/2019 21:46

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Apparently she "lied" as he was not booked.

Wonder what OffComm will do considering complaints lodged?
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