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Sortie Posted on 21/10/2019 17:08
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I see Ben Houchen isn't joining other politicians in saying those using Pacers should get reduced rail fares. This should be extended to cover all rolling stock over 25 years old. "Our new rolling stock" was built between 1989 and 1992.

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Jonny_Rondos_Disco_pants Posted on 21/10/2019 17:18

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there was a question posed to an MP today to see if they meet the rail vehicle accessibility regulations 2010 which comes into force on 1st Jan.
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Sortie Posted on 21/10/2019 17:21

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I doubt even if new stock does. Another reason Boris wants out.
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Cleveleyssmoggie Posted on 21/10/2019 17:43

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The new trains do, and a lot of older stuff is being refurbished to comply. Iíve also seen pacers joined up to other compliant trains.
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Sortie Posted on 21/10/2019 17:59

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Having not seen the new stock I couldn't whether it does or it doesn't. As I haven't seen any revamped rolling I can't say categorically one way or the other.

What I do know though is many stations don't comply as there's a conflict of interest between what Network Rail and TOC's want.

At least Transport for Wales are working as one.
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Cleveleyssmoggie Posted on 21/10/2019 18:17

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I thought TFW were having to use Pacers next year., under the guise of increasing capacity.
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Sortie Posted on 21/10/2019 18:27

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My understanding is that the Welsh Government are thinking of extending the life of them temporarily because of the condition of the rolling stock handed over to the new operators and to ensure services are provided and not cancelled as a consequence. Short term measure to give time to undertake essential repairs not undertaken previously.
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GusboroughSteve Posted on 21/10/2019 18:44

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Maybe a straight swap with Thames link
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Foggysfplandiet3 Posted on 21/10/2019 21:20

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ďOur new rolling stock was built between 1989 and 1992Ē

I wish we still had 1957 built Metropolitan-Cammell class 101s. You could see out the front and watch the driver at his controls!
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Sortie Posted on 21/10/2019 22:04

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I think Chiltern Railways may still be using some of them. They were about 5 year ago on the Aylesbury to Princes Risborough line
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RexKramer Posted on 22/10/2019 02:13

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Maybe going off on a tangent but I hadnít seen this till the other day. May explain why trains havenít been replaced yet.

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Sortie Posted on 22/10/2019 08:30

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150's were built between 1987 & 1989.

"Teesside could become"

I can't see it myself, retrofitting new technology won't be easy and won't be done by 2021 as the article claims it is hoped. What you have to realise is it's come from the spin doctor of the Tees Valley.

The government have set a target to remove all diesel trains by 2045.

Alstom and Eversholt Rail have already got a facility in Widnes converting class 321's originally built between 1988 & 1991.

It's interesting to note that Ben hasn't been promoting that the work on converting rolling stock be undertaken locally.

But why not build new instead of re-furbishing 30+ year old stock. They would contemplate this for down south.

Surely the Northern Power House minister should be pushing this. The could save a fortune by not electrifying more lines and using the cash to build new hydrogen powered stock.
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