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ABCD Posted on 09/10/2019 08:41
Edited On: 09/10/2019 08:43why do the English hate being English?
 
Calling each other rwnj, racists, bigots, little Englanders, Nazis etc etc etc. no wonder the rest if Europe stomps all over you considering you appear to hate the skin you live in.

watching you lot on this board over the past 3 years & if you represent a "snap shot" of england as a whole, England must be a sad sad place. Accept it you are not European, geographically mabey, but mainland Europe will never accept you into the "real club" not matter how much you kowtow & genuflect. Accept that you have more in common with the rest of the world than with the EU.

pleased i live in KL where people actually like the English.
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lapennabianca Posted on 09/10/2019 08:45

why do the English hate being English?
"Enland is a sad sad place. Accept it you are not European, geographically mabey, but mainland Europe will never accept you into the "real club" not matter how much you kowtow & genuflect. Accept that you have more in common with the rest of the world than with the EU."

This isn't true though, is it? Britain has significantly more in common with other European countries than, for example, Malaysia.
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WeeGord Posted on 09/10/2019 08:47

why do the English hate being English?
I've read some drivel in my time but this is right up there with the worst posts I have seen.

Do you not think there are idiots belonging to every nationality? I don't think people hate being English, they hate seeing hard of thinking meme sharing zombies destroying the UK. It is those reasons they have issues with not the fact they are 'English'.

I noticed your own little bit of nationalistic rubbish there too despite living half way around the world.
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Rayman Posted on 09/10/2019 08:48

why do the English hate being English?
Generalisation of the day and itís still comparatively early.
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TerryWay Posted on 09/10/2019 08:50

why do the English hate being English?
English nationalism is historically and inextricably linked to far right extremism. Itís quite frankly toxic they way some of our people communicate their patriotism whether it is our football fans, tourists or political parties. We act like we are superior when we are not.

I love to be proud of my country but quite frankly the casual and not casual racism embedded in large parts of our culture makes me embarrassed and nauseous.
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Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 09/10/2019 08:51

why do the English hate being English?
I've read your threads previously, I've got no time for nut jobs in your utopia either.
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sammysmiths Posted on 09/10/2019 08:53

why do the English hate being English?
Unfortunately we have been bullied by everyone else, losing our freedom of speech, self pride, and togetherness. We are so afraid of saying what we feel in case someone is offended. We have become a soft touch nation where everyone can walk all over us. Such a shame. We can barely fly our own flag without fear of comment. Down beaten and fearful.
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Small_town Posted on 09/10/2019 09:04

why do the English hate being English?
Ignoring the idiocy of the original post, yes we are different from Malaysia but, given it was once part odd the empire it's probably more British than most European cities.

Actually not ignoring the original post. It's possible to be proud of your country without hating others. You should try it someday.
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ZippytheHippy Posted on 09/10/2019 09:12

why do the English hate being English?
I've read the op twice now and for the life of me can't see where he says he hates anyone?

lwnj selective interpretation perhaps, bending something to fit your own preconceptions perhaps?
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Soll Posted on 09/10/2019 09:12

why do the English hate being English?
"if you represent a "snap shot" of england as a whole"

They represent what the London-based media want them too.
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Ticker_Tape Posted on 09/10/2019 12:23

why do the English hate being English?
We are in danger of slipping into an autocratic political situation. It's happening both sides of the Atlantic, with the neo right wing fascist driven grabbing control of the agenda and the country.
Propaganda slogans dividing people, I thought the Merkel Twitter slogan finally showed what it really drives the Tories on here and is visible from their postings.

There was a bloke on here ranting racism and then denying it when confronted. The Tories on here then began backing his blatant racist posts.

One fella even asked admin to remove a post he made as he knew it was pro racists and he wanted to bury it's trace.

So ABCD I think you'd have to be blind not to see Facism and blatant nazi views will always be opposed on here.
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Small_town Posted on 09/10/2019 12:26

why do the English hate being English?
Zippy the OP seems to be suggesting that criticising someone for being a xenophobic little englander means you hate the English. Which is nonsense.
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jam69 Posted on 09/10/2019 12:30

why do the English hate being English?
we as a country have, with a great deal of help from other countries along standing history of standing up to far right fascism.
as in the 30s its rearing its ugly head once more but iam sure it wont be tolerated by the vast majority of good decent folk
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FrozenHorse Posted on 09/10/2019 12:36

why do the English hate being English?
Do we hate being English?

To me it's an accident of birth: nothing to be proud of, but nothing to be ashamed of either.

I don't assume I have more in common with other English people than I do with people who aren't: instead I'll treat everyone as an individual.
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red_harrington Posted on 09/10/2019 12:45

why do the English hate being English?
"if you represent a "snap shot" of england as a whole, England must be a sad sad place."

Funny that, how opinions can differ. I really like this board, that's why I've been posting for 20+ years. It's the variety of opinions that make it interesting, not sad. Sometimes it's actually funny too.
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wilkos_perm Posted on 09/10/2019 13:04

why do the English hate being English?
I work with a lot of Germans, Danes and Dutch. All decent people and have a lot in common, and lead similar lifestyles.

You'll probably find that you'd be able to find common ground with the nutjobs in those countries too.
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1finny Posted on 09/10/2019 13:07

why do the English hate being English?
The Ďenglishí are individuals
I really dislike the behaviour of some of them - the liars, the cheats and the bigots.

Iíd dislike similar people in Germany, France, Scotland et al.
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TheFair86 Posted on 09/10/2019 13:10
Edited On: 09/10/2019 13:12
why do the English hate being English?
Stupidest post of the year right here.

Don't know anyone that hates being English, but I see plenty of people that make me ashamed to be from time to time.

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bigrichardthe3rd Posted on 09/10/2019 16:52

why do the English hate being English?
Iam half teesside half english[^][^]
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1finny Posted on 09/10/2019 16:55

why do the English hate being English?
Where do you get your daft half from [;)]
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Aqualung Posted on 09/10/2019 16:59

why do the English hate being English?
I never figured out why people give a XXXXXX about what land mass they happened to be born on, pride should be reserved for personal achievement, not where you happened to pop out the womb

Claiming credit for the achievements of others, obviously only the ethically good bits, completely ignoring the colonialism and invasion of other lands resources for 'our' own profit in the last 200 years

I consider myself a European, by genetics that's exactly what i am, i don't get the tribal attachment to nationalism, its burns my XXXXXX that i will potentially lose a lot of freedom in the EU because of a load of ignorant brexiteers who continually fail to provide any evidence whatsoever how we will be better off outside the single market
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Anton_Berg Posted on 09/10/2019 17:07

why do the English hate being English?
To put it another way, why is it that Scottish, Welsh, Irish, Catalan, Quebecois etc nationalsm is regarded as cool and acceptably mainstream, whereas UK or English nationalism is only seen as extreme?
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Aqualung Posted on 09/10/2019 17:14

why do the English hate being English?
anton, please provide evidence for your claims
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Uncle_Marbles Posted on 09/10/2019 17:24
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why do the English hate being English?
"its burns my XXXXXX that i will potentially lose a lot of freedom in the EU because of a load of ignorant brexiteers who continually fail to provide any evidence whatsoever how we will be better off outside the single market"

Aquaslung, please provide evidence for your claims
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Aqualung Posted on 09/10/2019 17:29

why do the English hate being English?
fill your boots

Link:
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Small_town Posted on 09/10/2019 17:30

why do the English hate being English?
How do you provide evidence of a lack of evidence?
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ZippytheHippy Posted on 09/10/2019 18:46

why do the English hate being English?
Small_town

Nope didn't read that into it at all. Seems to me he's asking why we as "English" people are quick to find fault, deride & insult "English" people while accepting xenophobic rants from the Scots, Irish, Welsh, French, etc etc against the "English" fact.

As the currently vilified Cecil Rhodes said, "you are an Englishman, and have subsequently drawn the greatest prize in the lottery of life." He was right then and is right now evidenced by the fact that most migrants wish to migrate to England.

Call me what you want, RNJW, Xenophobe whatever it does not & will not make your opinion superior than anyone else, go on fill yer boots.
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nowthen Posted on 09/10/2019 18:54

why do the English hate being English?
If the OP canít be assed responding why keep the thread going? .......... Yes I get the irony but I hope you know what I mean. Let it sink off the board.
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The_Lizards_Jumpers Posted on 09/10/2019 19:14

why do the English hate being English?
Surely a parody?

Terrible use of language - check
Doesn't live in this country - check
Throwing a load of labels around - check

A fisherman of Bob Nudd proportions.
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ABCD Posted on 09/10/2019 19:28

why do the English hate being English?
nowthen

of what benefit is it for me to respond to "insults"? You can masturbate at your own "wordsmith" without my help thank you.
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TrickBag Posted on 09/10/2019 19:43

why do the English hate being English?
Every nation on the earth has it's own brand of exceptionalism. Countries which once had empires, rightly or wrongly, probably have more of a justification for having such belief.

What is constantly dynamic is politics. What was once considered expected and mainstream by most is now considered extreme, intolerable or stupid by others.

I think there is absolutely nothing wrong with pride in your country, the problem is when some try to link it either positively or negatively with a particular political movement.
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