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r00fie1 Posted on 12/09/2019 08:10
Teesside Oil Refinery: how wil jobs be effected post brexit?
 
 
One of the top crude refineries in the UK. Gold safety record and average turn-around time of 24 hours.

Given the precarious state of jobs in Teesside and publication of yellowhammer: the expected disruption could effect more jobs.

Best be prepared
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Borobarmy Posted on 12/09/2019 08:22

Teesside Oil Refinery: how wil jobs be effected post brexit?

 
Ask the BBC ? They’ll tell you it will lead to flu epidemic and wild fires
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TerryWay Posted on 12/09/2019 08:25

Teesside Oil Refinery: how wil jobs be effected post brexit?

 
Yes I feel sorry for the hard working people across the Teesside oil industry who will lose their jobs over no deal

They are completely powerless right now. Ironic considering Brexit was allegedly about “taking back control”.
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bear66 Posted on 12/09/2019 08:25

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Depends on whether it is still financially viable. Otherwise it'll close. "Fingers in ears screamers" will be affected as well as the sensible ones.
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coluka Posted on 12/09/2019 08:43

Teesside Oil Refinery: how wil jobs be effected post brexit?

 
Anyone think any industries will do well if brexit ever happens, apart from hedgefunds and Funeral Directors?

It seems most with a remain view are just going to sit down and wait for certain death rather than rise up, seek new and exciting routes for entrepreneurial advancement. Whatever happened to glass half full people.

Bring out your dead !!
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Jonny_Rondos_Disco_pants Posted on 12/09/2019 08:44

Teesside Oil Refinery: how wil jobs be effected post brexit?

 
You talking about phillips petroleum?

Cant see it being effected. Ekogisk pipeline runs direct to it.
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ExFootyLegs Posted on 12/09/2019 08:51

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Jonny

Read section 15 published last night that was leaked by s government whistleblower

Fuel refineries in uk become uncompetitive overnight with no deal as tarriffs set to zero for imported fuel but uk has to pay eu tariffs meaning they will close and government predicts protests such as blocking roads so nobody has fuel

Wake up call?
Governments own predictions they didn’t want us to see
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Theodore_Bear Posted on 12/09/2019 08:52

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Apparently the redacted Para 15 of the released version of the Yellowhammer document states:

"15. Facing EU tariffs makes petrol exports to the EU uncompetitive. Industry had plans to mitigate the impact on refinery margins and profitability but UK Government policy to set petrol import tariffs at 0% inadvertently undermines these plans.

This leads to significant financial losses and announcement of two refinery closures (and transition to import terminals) and direct job losses (about 2000).

Resulting strike action at refineries would lead to disruptions to fuel availability for 1-2 weeks in the regions directly supplied by the refineries."
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TerryWay Posted on 12/09/2019 09:04

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I have an interesting theory as to why they chose to redact that one section.

They knew it would get revealed anyway, but it would distract the conversation about the yellowhammer document on the even more serious issues of lack of food, meds and public disorder.

Classic Trump tactics to distract folks from the real killer stuff.
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r00fie1 Posted on 12/09/2019 09:22

Teesside Oil Refinery: how wil jobs be effected post brexit?

 
I dont believe even this bunch of political cowboys would allow British refineries to go to the wall. The infrastructure is too costly to replace if the industry goes to the wall.

The cost of importing refined fuel would lead to an increase in push - bike sales and electric cars!!!![:O]

I reckon this is a secret "green" agenda by Boris[8)][8D]
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Jonny_Rondos_Disco_pants Posted on 12/09/2019 11:30

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So the ekofisk pipeline stops pumping to Teesside? Ekofisk field shuts down. Do you really think the Norway will let that happen. The raw oil is imported from abroad to be processed, there is enough oil until 2050.

Im afraid the biggest issue might be getting chemicals for dosing etc on time than inport/export of refined fuel.
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lapennabianca Posted on 12/09/2019 11:34
Edited On: 12/09/2019 11:35
Teesside Oil Refinery: how wil jobs be effected post brexit?

 
Norway can moan all they like, but they're bound by SM rules - but with no voting rights on EU decisions
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AndyD13 Posted on 12/09/2019 11:42

Teesside Oil Refinery: how wil jobs be effected post brexit?

 
Teesside doesnt have an oil refinery does it?
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r00fie1 Posted on 12/09/2019 11:52

Teesside Oil Refinery: how wil jobs be effected post brexit?

 
read.....

Today the Teesside Refinery is a crude oil reception, storage and trans-shipment installation. Operations consist of both processing and tanker loading facilities and cover a 307 acres (124 ha) site. Stabilised oil is stored in a 375 acres (152 ha) tank farm at Greatham. A 2 miles (3.2 km) corridor containing pipelines, communications and utility services links the two sites, operated jointly by 270 employees.

In its 35 years of operations, the terminal has processed over five billion barrels of oil, seen 15,000 ships visit their jetties and had a first-class safety record. The plant has also been run with a downtime of less than 24 hours in 30 years.
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AndyD13 Posted on 12/09/2019 11:55

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It is now a terminal - its is no longer a refinery. That part of it closed years ago under Petroplus.
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erimus74 Posted on 12/09/2019 12:33

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It is now a terminal - its is no longer a refinery. That part of it closed years ago under Petroplus

AndyD13, I was at Petrplus back then, had been there from ICI to P+, I was fortunate to continue when a new buyer came in
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AndyD13 Posted on 12/09/2019 12:39

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gravy173 Posted on 12/09/2019 15:13

Teesside Oil Refinery: how wil jobs be effected post brexit?

 
The old Petroplus refinery is now a fuel distribution hub along with the other two Seal Sands Tank Farms with distillates and gasoline components coming in from abroad since it shut down in 2011.

As has been said above Ekofisk is exported from Conoco Philips as there is no local refinery to process it on Teesside anymore, as such its unlikely anything will happen locally.

There are only 6 active refineries in the UK (2 at Immingham, 1 at Fawley, 1 at Stanlow, 1 at Grangemouth, 1 at Milford Haven) and a couple of middling sites on the Thames with a lot of fuel imported, all of the above have been up for sale for years.
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Sortie Posted on 12/09/2019 15:30

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So in just over 3.5 hours it goes from one of the top crude refineries in the UK, a gold safety record and average turn-around time of 24 hours to; a crude oil reception, storage and trans-shipment installation operation.

Now that can't be blamed on Brexit can it.
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erimus74 Posted on 12/09/2019 15:37

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gravy173, The old Petroplus refinery is now a fuel distribution hub along with the other two Seal Sands Tank Farms with distillates and gasoline components coming in from abroad since it shut down in 2011.

gravy, the old Petroplus refinery is moth balled, the offsites tank farm & rail loading tank farm are, along with Seal Sands, storage tanks, since 2012
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boroPE Posted on 12/09/2019 16:40

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I work on there Brexit hasnt had a mention and they are continuing to invest Millions on the place. As was said its mainly Norwegian Oil coming in.
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Cooper6711 Posted on 12/09/2019 17:31

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boroPE but TerryWay (Forman) said

Yes I feel sorry for the hard working people across the Teesside oil industry who will lose their jobs over no deal.

You mean he’s scaremongering. Who’d have thought it!
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gravy173 Posted on 12/09/2019 21:46
Edited On: 12/09/2019 21:48
Teesside Oil Refinery: how wil jobs be effected post brexit?

 
Erimus, The main site jetty and all refinery loading tanks are very much active and in use, pipelines run from p150s and p160s to both seal sands tank farms as well as the existing pipeline to R&R. The column and parts of the refinery are mothballed and rusting away but there is still quite a bit going on down main site including the caverns also still being in use for crude storage.
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erimus74 Posted on 12/09/2019 21:56

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gravy173, you work down there?
You're very knowledgable, even regarding R&R which is under a differnt name now
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gravy173 Posted on 13/09/2019 00:41

Teesside Oil Refinery: how wil jobs be effected post brexit?

 
We’ve spoke about the site before I think, never worked there but have been involved with the site quite a bit before and after the closure, still have some dealings there but as you will know it’s mostly run by the seal sands teams now
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br14 Posted on 13/09/2019 03:33
Edited On: 13/09/2019 03:35
Teesside Oil Refinery: how wil jobs be effected post brexit?

 
Average EU tariff on petroleum products is 4.7%.

Between April and August of 2019, the pound to euro exchange rate fell by 9.6%.

In a period of just over 2 weeks in late July early August, the pound fell 5.2% against the euro.

A 4.7% tariff, while certainly not a good thing, is the kind of cost that businesses that trade internationally deal with every day.

And the UK could apply counteracting tariffs on EU products that are produced within the UK, then subsidise the petroleum industry on Teesside and elsewhere (they'd call it a "deprived area" grant or similar) or reduce business rates or similar to mitigate the cost of tariffs.
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brattleboro Posted on 13/09/2019 06:11

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it amazes me how some people on here sleep with all the worry and stress they give themselves[:D][:D][:D]life will go on ,i assure you !!!
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keelo Posted on 13/09/2019 07:19

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Life will go on, of course it will,but not as we know it
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Octo_Burger Posted on 13/09/2019 08:36

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So how much is this subsidising of the petroleum industry going to cost us? The cost of brexit is certainly mounting up isn't it!
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two_banks_of_four Posted on 13/09/2019 08:48

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the infamous para 15 of yellowhammer is illuminating.

"Facing EU tariffs makes petrol exports to the EU uncompetitive. Industry had plans to mitigate the impact on refinery margins and profitability but UK Government policy to set petrol import tariffs at 0% inadvertently undermines these plans. This leads to significant financial losses and announcement of two refinery closures (and transition to import terminals) and direct job losses (about 2000). Resulting strike action at refineries would lead to disruptions to fuel availability for 1-2 weeks in the regions directly supplied by the refineries."
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