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BigUnit Posted on 11/09/2019 15:36
Best Secondary school in Boro?
 
 
Looking for Advice please on the best choice for my Son for Secondary School.
I have looked at the top ten on Ofsted but I thought parents personal experiences would be more useful.
Thanks in advance
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1finny Posted on 11/09/2019 15:43

Best Secondary school in Boro?

 
Depends
Do you want him to turn out like his dad [;)]
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sammysmiths Posted on 11/09/2019 15:51

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Just because the last ofsted report might state that it was a good or outstanding school. The report could haver been done approx 5 years ago. Many people will say Nunthorpe, but I know different. I believe the new school in Ingleby Barwick is performing very well.
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shaboro1986 Posted on 11/09/2019 15:51

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Depends where you live mate.
I put down Outwood on Hall Drive.
I got a phone call, they asked 2 questions. Do you have any brothers or sisters who go here (no) and do any of your family work at the school (no)
Okay, thank you was their reply. And put the phone down. Bearing in mind i only lived on Samaria Gardens opposite the Crematorium.
P !ssed me off that they were the only 2 questions they asked.
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OnlyInAmerica Posted on 11/09/2019 16:02

Best Secondary school in Boro?

 
Macmillan
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pdhmobile2016 Posted on 11/09/2019 16:03

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I've just been to outwood Normanby open day and the new head there was previously at Bydales (I've of best on area) and acklam (one of best on area) before that. He spoke very well and has a fantastic track record.
From what I've heard nunthorpe is on the downward spiral.
Ormesby outwood so so
Laurence Jackson is in airchay1@gmail.com measure with the governing body.

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archienoeyes Posted on 11/09/2019 16:24

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Acklam Grange is the best school currently in Middlesbrough. My 2 lads both go there 100% recommended it. Got lads in my footy team that go to Macmillan ,and they all say itís not as good as acklam Grange. Exam results are the highest too in the area . There are good schools locally ,the one in ingleby toy town does well . I would push them all the way towards acklam Grange , just attend the open evening and see the passion of the teachers that they have for the school.
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3ships Posted on 11/09/2019 16:51

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for me it all comes down to the child's attitude towards education. if they enjoy school and are wanting to learn the will succeed anywhere. offstead reports are flavour of the month and every school will always have good and bad students.

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BigUnit Posted on 11/09/2019 17:28
Edited On: 11/09/2019 18:47
Best Secondary school in Boro?

 
Finny. I don't want him to turn out like I did , that's for sure.
I'm starting to grow up now though lol.
Thanks for your replys
Sounds like Acklam Grange Hall drive looks the best Shout .
Will be going to the open day.
We live in Longlands but we are very fortunate to get choice of schools because of his circumstances
Cheers Folks
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shaboro1986 Posted on 11/09/2019 17:46

Best Secondary school in Boro?

 
My little one is going to macmillan. She didn't want to go to acklam grange
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sammysmiths Posted on 11/09/2019 18:18

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Is Outwood Hall Drive still in special measures?
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Richyboro Posted on 11/09/2019 18:28

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Acklam Grange or Macmillan

If you can swing it, All Saints in Ingleby
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MBBoro Posted on 11/09/2019 18:44

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If you are to compare anything then the attainment score of each school is the best measure, essentially what do the pupils come out with at the end of the 5 years. The gov.uk has all the information as:

Acklam Grange School
Progress 8 score & description
Above average. 0.380

Outwood Academy Acklam
Progress 8 score & description
Above Average. 0.310

The King's Academy
Average. -0.09

Macmillan Academy
Average. -0.13O

Outwood Academy Ormesby
Progress 8 score & description
Below average. -0.34.

Trinity Catholic College
Below average. -0.44Open.

Unity City Academy
Progress 8 score & description
Well below average. -0.83O.

The score works on 0 being the national average, 1 being the best school in the country, and -1 being the worst school.

Therefore, Acklam Grange or Outwood Acklam are the pick of the bunch by quite a distance, Kings and Macmillan as back up options though both slightly below national average.

Macmillan and Nunthorpe live of reputations from 20 years ago but have both nose dived massively.
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BigUnit Posted on 11/09/2019 18:51

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Thanks again that's very helpful
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Support_Your_Local_Team Posted on 11/09/2019 19:20

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Don't just look at results, you need to look at progress measures.

Schools with very bright and able primary school intakes at year 7 can still get best final results in the area despite adding very little progress to them.

Sometimes these schools are letting very bright and able kids cruise and underachieve but people think they're good schools as they "beat" schools who do very well but get far less able year 7 intakes.
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uncle_rico Posted on 11/09/2019 19:34

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ďIs Outwood Hall Drive still in special measures?Ē

No itís not. As said above the previous Executive Principle was at Outwood Bydales and has just taken over at what was Gillbrook / Hills View (now Outwood Normanby) and has turned the school round.

My wife works at Outwood Acklam though and the biggest issue they have is that 40% of pupils donít speak English as a first language, which obviously impact on other kids.

You need to remember that a school will be rated not by how many kids get top marks, but how much improvement kids have made over their time in school. You can have a school where all the kids are expected to get all A*ís (think it would be a 9 in new money) and they all get those results, and you have another school
Where all the kids are expected to get Cís and Dís but end up getting Bís and Cís and it would be rated better. Itís all bout the progress that they make.
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Freddy_Adu Posted on 11/09/2019 19:39

Best Secondary school in Boro?

 
With the dearth of decent schools available in our catchment area, we're seriously considering biting the bullet and putting ours into Yarm.
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canyoudigit Posted on 11/09/2019 19:48

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The head at Outwood Normanby is a very inspiring,impressive individual,worked wonders at Bydales.
I would 100 % send my kids there.
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Cuthbert Posted on 11/09/2019 20:24

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Fair play. Yarm looks like a great school. Not cheap though.
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shaboro1986 Posted on 11/09/2019 20:37

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Rico, ask your lass to ask the powers be, why only 2 questions were asked. As it would mean it would only be taking the same family members in future through and through. Whi h is 5hit
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goalscrounger Posted on 12/09/2019 00:21

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I'm guessing you're on the wrong side of Acklam Road to be in their catchment area? Having siblings or being a staff child score points when looking at school admissions and can counter being geographically "out of area", not many other things do.

You CAN put forward an individual case for appeal but it needs to be based on special educational or medical needs (with evidence) as opposed to any reason why the school is attractive to you (similarly, any case based on why the recommended catchment school isn't attractive will carry no weight either).
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EpiphanyProudfoot Posted on 12/09/2019 06:14

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Not good news I'm afraid.

Middlesbrough has more exclusions than anywhere in the UK (2018) which isnt the best start, Redcar managed to come 4th and I am sure the kids there will be disappointed they didnt come in the top three.

Middlesbrough College has a very good rep for 6th form. Macmillan seems to do ok, Schools from Boro and Stickton will always be Ofsted whipping boys, thats just how it is.

Do what all the Boro players do and send your kid to Yarm School?

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1finny Posted on 12/09/2019 07:18

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Its a tricky time all this stuff Big Unit
Iím sure you will make a good decision - hope all turns out well
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BigUnit Posted on 12/09/2019 08:15

Best Secondary school in Boro?

 
Cheers Finny [^]
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Cuthbert Posted on 12/09/2019 09:12

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"Do what all the Boro players do and send your kid to Yarm School?"

I guess they have the options of Red House School, and Teesside High School too.
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uncle_rico Posted on 12/09/2019 09:38

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Shaboro, I don't think it's down to the school its down to the local authority, in this case Middlesbrough Council.

My wife is just a teacher, has nothing to do with school admissions, but like all schools there is a priority list, and top of the list is those with special educational needs, plus having siblings in the school, being in the catchment area etc.
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BlindBoyGrunt1 Posted on 12/09/2019 10:00

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My kids went to the school that most of their mates were going to. A happy child will flourish anywhere.
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tseightliot Posted on 12/09/2019 10:39

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I worked at Outwood and they are very driven to delivering lessons with zero fuss so that pupils can make progress. However, if your child canít follow instructions or is argumentative in any way, shape or form -you are likely to have some exclusions and days in isolation, there is an absolute zero tolerance on messing about.
In terms of P8, schools have to get the students (all not just the hardest working or brightest) their projections from Key Stage 2 SATs. So, if a kid comes in with a projection of a 5 and the school gets that they accrue a flat 0 score for that child, if they get a 4, they score -1, if they score a 6 itís +1.
So to hit flat zero is really difficult for a school as kids value some lessons and not others, plus they become wise, they may have a projection of an 8 but realise they only need a 5 to go to college or get the apprenticeship they want. So sometimes results can be a bit misleading even now. For example, the intake at Acklam G and even Outwood Hall Drive will have more affluent parents than Ormesby, not only that they have a high percentage of Asian first and second generation who out perform white working class children.
Although from my experience of schools over the last 7 years, I know from various training sessions I have attended that Acklam Grange have been lauded as a really good school and I have had training events at Outwood Acklam and their kids behave really well and there was a real learning and achievement culture in their school.
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MVBoro Posted on 12/09/2019 11:07

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I think the biggest concern there is Unity Academy. It's depressing that they have a score of -0.83 and the lowest you can get is -1. That must be one of the lowest scores in the country for children that need it the most. You drive past that school and it looks big and relatively shiny but the kids are still struggling. If they are ever to improve their lot, a good education and home life is probably the best start. Despite best efforts, continues to be a struggle...
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erimus74 Posted on 12/09/2019 11:39

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3ships - For me it all comes down to the child's attitude towards education. if they enjoy school & are wanting to learn the will succeed anywhere. offstead reports are flavour of the month & every school will always have good & bad students

Couldnt agree more, both my son & daughter went to McMillans, St Edwards before that
Both have done exceptioinally well since leaving school & have agood chosen career ahead of them [^]
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SmashTheLeague Posted on 12/09/2019 18:17

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Let your son decide. Where is his friends going? With no disrespect mate the school he goes to will be a big decision as he will be there for 5 years so he should have an input to where he is going and where he feels comfortable. One thing I will add is donít go off results and school reports. My nephew went to Trinity and loved it despite it scoring low. Liked most of the teachers and never had any bother. He went to Macmillan recently as part of his uni placement and hated every second of it. Said that he saw and heard more bullying in 40 hours than he did in 5 years at Trinity and felt the teachers talked down the students and didnít feel approachable. Itís all about personal experiences. One last thing is that results are made out to be the be all and end all. Itís not. Good luck to you and your son. I hope that whatever school he goes to he settles well in and enjoys his future
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asredastheycome Posted on 12/09/2019 19:26

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You get out what you put in.[8)]
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