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Trug Posted on 11/07/2019 19:32
This man is dangerous
 
 
I am so scared that he will cause a civil war in this country. Removing anyone who does not agree with you-fascism?

Link: Idiot
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Ticker_Tape Posted on 11/07/2019 19:53

This man is dangerous

 
Could end up with civil war if Fat Bozo leaves with no deal
I'm really looking forward to him definitely having us out with no deal by the end of October.

Brexiters do act like him, total bullies.
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Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 11/07/2019 20:00

This man is dangerous

 
Where are the Brexit voting defenders of democracy?
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Indeedido Posted on 11/07/2019 20:05

This man is dangerous

 
Civil war.
Really?
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r00fie1 Posted on 11/07/2019 20:07

This man is dangerous

 
Democracy has to be fought for
again
again
and again.
Men who smile cloaked in smart suits extol the virtues of democracy whilst pulling it apart at the seams.

ďEveryone is in favor of free speech. Hardly a day passes without its being extolled, but some peopleís idea of it is that they are free to say what they like, but if anyone else says anything back, that is an outrage.Ē ― Winston S. Churchill
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big-eggo Posted on 11/07/2019 20:11

This man is dangerous

 
the party is just getting started. Problem that populists like Farage and Johnson face is that when they final garner enough support to gain control reality dawns, along with complexity of the task at hand. They then start back peddling and coming up short on promises. Then they start blaming everyone around them end eventually fall on the sword born of their own stupidity.

General election Oct 10 - triggered by Boris trying to sideline parliament.
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Ticker_Tape Posted on 11/07/2019 20:16

This man is dangerous

 
Well he's promised the rwnj the Earth and some, and if the eu tell him no, he's coming out with no deal.

So if it does end up on its ar$e, it will interesting to say the very least.


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Boro_Bosco Posted on 11/07/2019 20:17

This man is dangerous

 
"deliver Brexit and if civil servants are seen to be in obstruction to that, they should either change their ways or be removed"

I see no problem with that statement it's not "Removing anyone who does not agree with you-fascism" it's removing people who are not doing the job they are paid for.

Do you think civil servants should do the government's bidding or should they be allowed to obstruct it if they don't agree with the policy?
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Derek_Duvall Posted on 11/07/2019 20:23

This man is dangerous

 
Civil war? People will have to put their smart phones down first...
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Ticker_Tape Posted on 11/07/2019 20:28

This man is dangerous

 
Not so sure, remember cCamerons fiasco? we had a lot of little lads and lasses give the run around in most the major cities in the country.

We haven't got the police to deal with a fight in a fish shop now.
Imagine if there's millions of workers out overnight and the currency collapses.
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Trug Posted on 11/07/2019 20:36

This man is dangerous

 
Do you think civil servants should do the government's bidding or should they be allowed to obstruct it if they don't agree with the policy?
BB- Farage is talking about anyone in the civil service to be removed if they do not agree with him.Lots of civil servants will disagree with him but will do the job they are paid for. He is saying that just because a civil servant does not agree with him, that civil servant must be removed- in my eyes that means losing his job. That way lies fascism.
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Funky_Chicken Posted on 11/07/2019 20:37

This man is dangerous

 
Brexit will never even happen, never mind a no deal Brexit




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Boro_Bosco Posted on 11/07/2019 20:45

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" Farage is talking about anyone in the civil service to be removed if they do not agree with him."

That it is not what he is quoted as saying.
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Ziggy Posted on 11/07/2019 20:47

This man is dangerous

 
The party polling share seems to be declining at the moment around 14% currently, could be just an outlier, but their private polling may confirm it. So could be time to throw some red meat out there to the wobblers.
If it doesn't improve he is going have to push further out there. Then it could get dangerous..... for Farage and Farage Ltd.


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festa5 Posted on 11/07/2019 20:58

This man is dangerous

 
"Farage is talking about anyone in the civil service to be removed if they do not agree with him.Lots of civil servants will disagree with him but will do the job they are paid for. He is saying that just because a civil servant does not agree with him, that civil servant must be removed".

Based on the link in the OP I'm not sure that's what he is saying Trug, although I wouldn't put it past him to think like that. Have you another source that clarifies it?

I'm genuinely interested not least because I'm a civil servant remainer myself (pretty sure most of us are). However I don't see anything wrong with what he's said at face value in the clip, although there is the thinly veiled insinuation that the civil service would try and block brexit.
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Trug Posted on 12/07/2019 17:27

This man is dangerous

 
There ya go festa

Link: Link.......
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10hickton Posted on 12/07/2019 17:32

This man is dangerous

 
Some people think b ollox - its worrying (a bit) when they write it down on a football board !
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festa5 Posted on 12/07/2019 18:08

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Cheers Trug.

Obviously there's a difference between actively trying to block government policy and having an opinion about it. I'm not sure even Farage quite knew which point he was making.

The issue for me is once again senior brexiteers trying to pin the blame for its failure on anyone but themselves. He's obviously (not surprisingly though) oblivious to the Civil Service code. He'll do well to actually find a civil servant publicly express an opinion on brexit.
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Trug Posted on 12/07/2019 18:18

This man is dangerous

 
Obviously there's a difference between actively trying to block government policy and having an opinion about it. I'm not sure even Farage quite knew which point he was making.
I agree. In fact I am not sure that Farage actually KNOWS himself what point he is making.
He is really a big mouthed bully who will enjoy belittling people less able to defend themselves.
One thing for sure is that he has caused a lot of division and set even families against each other over his poisonous views. And this is the bit that worries and scares me.
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coluka Posted on 12/07/2019 19:06

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ďWhere are the Brexit voting defenders of democracy?ď

Well there is one here Corcaigh. You call me Tory enough, even though I am happy to support Labours view of a second vote on any deal agreed whether it be a deal, or no deal v remain. I am happy for the people to decide a second time and would happily support any outcome as being democratic.

I have not changed my view and would still vote leave. I dont believe that is anti democratic, do you? I suspect if any deal won the support of a second vote you would probably still find it anti democratic though somehow
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UKLL1981 Posted on 12/07/2019 19:19
Edited On: 12/07/2019 19:20
This man is dangerous

 
Itís not the job of civil servants to make policy or judge what is acceptable, right or wrong. Civil servants are paid to implement the decisions made by the government and the people. If they truly donít believe or agree with something they should stand by their principles and quit. You cannot have unelected and unaccountable civil servants overruling government and deciding the policies and fate of a nation. They are paid to do a job so they should either do it or quit. Its a bit like me refusing to fix an aircraft because I donít like one of the passengers or where itís flying to, should I still get paid even Iíve prevented 300 people going on holiday? Plus itís a bit ironic and hypocritical that people moaning about this support the biggest hatchet man in politics today (Corbyn) who fires anyone who is slightly critical or challenges him.
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festa5 Posted on 12/07/2019 19:40

This man is dangerous

 
"You cannot have unelected and unaccountable civil servants overruling government and deciding the policies and fate of a nation."

Totally agree. Got any examples of that actually happening?

Thought not [rle]
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DowningAlbion Posted on 12/07/2019 20:14

This man is dangerous

 
I think the reality is Civil Servants are inherently conservative (with a small c) hence the recent outrage on one of their number undermining Corbyn by describing him as frail, which is a shocking display of bias
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