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ABCD Posted on 09/07/2019 16:16
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Make that 3.

So I guess Crobyns Labour is not antisemitic at all (sic)

Walks like a duck etc etc. Getting harder to defend but I'm sure the usual crew will give it a go.

Link: link
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Konrad_the_Barbarian Posted on 09/07/2019 16:19

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..... but whatabout....... whatabout........whatabout..... etc.
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newyddion Posted on 09/07/2019 16:27

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right wing labour mps throwing shyte at the center left membership?
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BlindBoyGrunt1 Posted on 09/07/2019 16:33

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Ok, I guess I am a member of the usual crew. Below is a link to a film which I beg you to watch. It will take one hour out of your life. Watch it and then revisit this thread.

Link: WitchHunt.
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Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 09/07/2019 16:35

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And the OP fails to see what the big picture is yet again.

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redfort Posted on 09/07/2019 16:38

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All right-wing smears and Daily Mail spook stories. No such thing as anti-Semitism and Labour doesn't have an issue with it cos it doesn't even exist! [rle]
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American_Mary Posted on 09/07/2019 16:44

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Where are the specifics on these cases of anti-semitism ?

Each one should be judged on the content of the individual incident.

I abhor persecution on the basis of race and religion and any criticism I make would be on the action in point, the religion of an organisation is irrelevant to my viewpoint, understanding the reaction to persecution is very different from condoning it.

The aggressive actions of the Israeli government and military, in my opinion, are worthy of censure, the same way that the terrorist atrocities against Israel by Palestine deserve criticism. The action not the belief system is what is being condemned.
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Anton_Berg Posted on 09/07/2019 16:56

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Is it like Dettol?
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Ticker_Tape Posted on 09/07/2019 16:56
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The Zionist are trying to control the British and American politics and are successful with it, they have to be when you analyse their behaviour toward Palestinians. Is the leader of Momentum Jewish and his father was a Conservative councillor ?.

I see its old God squads pal moaning again.
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Konrad_the_Barbarian Posted on 09/07/2019 17:00

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Oh the irony.
You sound like that bloke with the funny moustache TT. Back in Germany in the 20's/30's. Forget his name.

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BlindBoyGrunt1 Posted on 09/07/2019 17:13

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And how long did it take for someone to conflate Zionism with Judaism Konan?
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Big_Nothing Posted on 09/07/2019 17:15

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I'll call out anti semitism when I see it regardless of to what extent I agree with the other politics of the individual. Is this not yet more resignations where they're still unable to actually provide evidence or examples of anti semitism? If someone can actually provide me any I'd be happy to look at it and change my view if necessary.

If these people genuinely cared about the scourge of anti semitism then they wouldn't be using it as party political ammunition. It's disgusting and a real problem that they're getting away with such unsubstantiated claims.

As someone who knows a little about the subject I'd be disgusted if I saw genuine anti semitism from the party I support. It's one of the most shameless acts of political sabotage I've ever known.

They know there'll be isolated incidents that make it impossible for the Labour Party to deny there's an issue because if they do then 'even one is too many'. A 1000 anti semites in Labour, the biggest political party in Europe doesn't make it instituionally anti semetic ffs.
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asredastheycome Posted on 09/07/2019 17:27

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A.M [^] good points made as usual.
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ABCD Posted on 09/07/2019 17:28
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Maybe you should watch this, I would also point out I said "Crobyns" labour party or specifically the party within a party Momentum.

Ticker_Tape "Gods Squad friend" certainly I am (I believe you are referring no No9). Known him for years, worked for him 10. Nicest & most generous bloke I have ever known.(gave a large % of his money after selling up to charity).

I'd rather be his mate than a d!ck like you.

A right G1t to play golf with though as he hated to lose.

A.M

"The aggressive actions of the Israeli government and military, in my opinion, are worthy of censure"

Could not agree more, but calling for the "eradication of the Nation of Israel" is antisemitic (tbh its genocidal) & supporting such calls is abhorant. For far to long "sections" of the left had hid behind defining "hating israel & calling for its destruction" as legitimate. Like all warped thinking it has appealed to some who cannot understand that calling for the destruction of a nation is genocide. For the simple reason a nation without populace is just an empty piece of land. By its definition Israel is Semite because it is largely populated by people of Jewish decent.

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borobuddah Posted on 09/07/2019 17:40

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Anti-Zionism is not anti semitism
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Big_Nothing Posted on 09/07/2019 17:42

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I've just watched it and at which point does she reveal any information, evidence or examples of anti semitism from within the Labour Party or by it's supporters? Oh wait she doesn't. She mentions the vile abuse she's received online and then as with seemingly every other person making the accusation that Labour is INSTITUIONALLY anti semetic doesn't actually substantiate it...

As for people calling her out on having paid ties to Israel, that in itself is not anti semitism. Other MPs, some of whom who aren't Jewish have some dodgy ties to a despicable regime and are called out on it. .

Again calling out the Israeli government or even questioning some aspects of the Israeli state now and in history is not anti semetic but it will be considered so if people back down and let the agenda be set by the people who wish to silence others by deciding what's anti semetic and then tarnishing people with it when it suits.
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BlindBoyGrunt1 Posted on 09/07/2019 17:46

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Ah yes Luciana Berger. Six people were convicted and jailed for anti semitism against her. Four were far right, two were from the left and none belonged to the labour party. The truth is she was about to face a no confidence motion in her CLP.

She has no evidence of anti semitism in Labour.
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Ticker_Tape Posted on 09/07/2019 17:47

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You're both Tory flat earth fvck wits, peddling XXXXXX.
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Big_Nothing Posted on 09/07/2019 17:49

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It's not one I agree with but there is a school of thought that says that the state of Israel was constructed by unfair means and some believe it should never have been allowed to have been created never mind exist as it does today and won't let history mask what they see as initial illegitimacy. Calling for 'eradication' is only genocidal if you're advocating the death of those living there I believe. Anybody doing so is disgusting and blatantly anti semetic but I don't see that call in much if any discourse to be honest. It's certainly not a prevalant view within Labour.
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1finny Posted on 09/07/2019 17:53

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The real problem is despite little evidence the term is ‘sticking’ to the Labour Party.

We ought to be used to this now and, if not, need to adjust quickly ref Johnson.

The truth no longer matters - those with the loudest share of voice win through if they have enough support. Trump and Johnson have shown us that.
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ABCD Posted on 09/07/2019 18:01
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Ticker_Tape

I guarantee he's got more people who call him a good friend than you have middle digit. Here's an exercise for you stick your middle digit up and look in the mirror. Sums you up.

1finny

It's labours lack of desire/ability or want to root out the minority (which it no doubt is) promoting antisemitism. This lack of "desire" appears to come from the top. Historically the "left" have always had a problem with the Jews as have the right.
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deganya Posted on 09/07/2019 18:07

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Margaret Hodge made the same empty noises, and got a lot of airtime shouting about the institutional anti semitism in the Labour party. When asked to produce evidence of this she handed over 200 names and examples of such.

On examination 188 were not members of the Labour party, and the remaining were legitimate criticisms of apartheid Israel.

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Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 09/07/2019 18:19

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ABCD, they're the only party doing any investigating. It's time perhaps to look at who is making the accusations and who is in the background organising it.
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jam69 Posted on 09/07/2019 18:29

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thetes a few antisemites within the Labour party, but in comparison to islamaphobia within the tory party it's miniscule. just look how many tory councillors have been suspended or kicked out, and the lack if media coverage and pressure just fuels the witch hunt theories.
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Ticker_Tape Posted on 09/07/2019 18:30

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He's just a Tory t0sspot [:D]
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Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 09/07/2019 18:32
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Jam, does Islamaphobia matter to those pointing the accusing finger at the Labour Party?

Not many of them were visibly criticising the government over the overtly racist Windrush fiasco either.
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jam69 Posted on 09/07/2019 18:41

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nope , bit like SYL, outing trials of paedophiles in jeopardy whilst seemingly not as outraged when the perpetrators are non Muslim.
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hopesoboro Posted on 09/07/2019 20:36

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Come on,Konrad the Barbie doll and Ken will go along with any accusation made by anyone against the Labour party.[xx(]
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ZippytheHippy Posted on 09/07/2019 22:47

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Dont care if Labour is antisemitic or not really, same as dont care if the Tories are Islamophobic. The sooner the "old" parties are gotten rid of the better.

I'm more concerned about the bigots on here like Ticker_Tape.
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Ticker_Tape Posted on 10/07/2019 05:10
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The Stench of Conservative Racism.

 
I too have my concerns over Tory voting racist like Zippy.
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superstu Posted on 10/07/2019 07:02

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"It's labours lack of desire/ability or want to root out the minority (which it no doubt is) promoting antisemitism. This lack of "desire" appears to come from the top."

[:O] how can people say this? Anti semitisms been the only topic Labour have discussed for about a year. I wish they'd get back to talking about their policies and plans for the country, that's where the desire seems to have disappeared.
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hopesoboro Posted on 10/07/2019 07:47

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It's almost like there's an orchestrated attack on the Labour Party.[xx(]
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redfort Posted on 10/07/2019 13:09

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"how can people say this?"

Very easily, as that is the relevant issue.
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BlindBoyGrunt1 Posted on 10/07/2019 13:17

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Anti Semitism in the labour party is estimated to be about 0.08% of the membership, Lower than in society as a whole and lower than among Tory members. There are many left wing Corbyn supporting Jews who are being silenced. This is an orchestrated attack on Labour because Corbyn sympathises with the Palestinians.

Link: Silenced.
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deganya Posted on 10/07/2019 18:39

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ABCD.... but calling for the "eradication of the Nation of Israel" is antisemitic".

which Labour politician has called for this?
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ABCD Posted on 10/07/2019 21:20

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deganya

by Corbyn support of Hamas corbyn
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jam69 Posted on 10/07/2019 21:22

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he's never said it, but don't come on here with the factual stuff.
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American_Mary Posted on 10/07/2019 21:28

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Corbyn is a two state solution politician, his every utterance has been about the recognition of Israel by Palestine and peace between both sides of the Israeli/Palestinian divide.
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billyzin Posted on 10/07/2019 21:47
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Another programme tonight from the "left wing" BBC regarding alleged antisemitism in the Labour party.
The director of Panorama tonight is the former Sun journalist John Ware, a pro-Israel polemicist.
Can we shortly expect a Panorama programme exposing the high levels of Islamophobia within the Tory party?
Don't hold your breath.
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ABCD Posted on 10/07/2019 21:50

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So let me get this right...

Does or has Hamas via the Covenant of the Islamic Resistance Movement (or any other means) called for the destruction of Israel?

Yes or No?

Are Corbyn & Hamas "friends"

Yes or No?

Guilt by association
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jam69 Posted on 10/07/2019 21:55

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so he's never called for the destruction of israel then?
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borobuddah Posted on 10/07/2019 21:58

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You know nowt about justice abcd, not a thing, zilch, nada, forkall
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WeeGord Posted on 10/07/2019 22:02

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ABCD, you're as transparent as they come and you talk utter dog turd. Fact.
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r00fie1 Posted on 10/07/2019 22:03

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Israel is a zionist apartheid racist state based upon expulsion of Palestinians from their country, stealing their land and forcing millions into refugee camps and to seek asylum abroad.
Netanyahu has said this year it is a state intended soley for the jews, not the native population.

Ghettoisation, torture, detention and imprisonment without trial, molestation and sytemic abuse of children by the Israeli regime, restriction of movement and the use of crypto "pass laws" make it a concentration camp where the bombs, nuclear warheads and internment camps are supported by the west for geopolitical purposes.

Criticism and campaigning against the zionist regime is not an attack on the jews, anymore than the attack on south african apartheid was an attack on christianity.

The smear by calling a critique of zionist israel "anti-semitic" is an attempt to shut up any discussion about the systematic oppression and dispossession of the palestinians of their country by the zionist regime.

Jews who speak out in Israel are few and those who do face the same oppression, harassment and imprisonment as the palestinians.

Equally, christians continue to be denied access to the likes of the Church of the Holy Sepulcre next the Jerico Road entrance to the old city.

The zionmist racists do not spare the rod against anyone or anything which gets in the way of their colonial intent.

Lets be clear: the campaign against Labour is a result of the election of Corbyn who is the only labour party leader [and future prime minister] since world war two who has decleared support for palestinian human rights, to allow them to return to their country and live in peace with all other faiths in their own country.

Which they did before Balfour and the British mandate which allowed the Stern Gang and the zionist racists to begin massacering palestinians and ethnically cleansing them from their own country.

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Molehusband Posted on 10/07/2019 22:16

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Interesting article about John Ware and Panorama from 2006.
The Guardian has changed a bit since then. So has the BBC.

Link: BBC
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Konrad_the_Barbarian Posted on 10/07/2019 22:22

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Did any of you anti-Semite apologists actually watch the programme or are you in such denial that you were watching Love Island.

How the fcuk can you people defend this $hlt. It absolutely beggars belief that you keep calling out "media conspiracy" when it is clearly not.

Corbyn himself comes out of this with no credit at all. Thank fcuk he will never be UK PM
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Konrad_the_Barbarian Posted on 10/07/2019 22:25

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"Lets be clear: the campaign against Labour is a result of the election of Corbyn"

XXXXXX Roofie. Lets be clear, the rise in anti-semitism within the Labour Party is a direct result of the election of Corbyn as leader.

Another apologist.
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redfort Posted on 10/07/2019 22:27

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"Lets be clear"

Yes, lets, because you certainly won't with your warped and prejudice view.

Corbyn through ignorance and nativity has emboldened anti-Semites within Labour to be more covert with their bigotry as no doubt they feel supported by the behaviour of the Labour leader, and they've largely been proven right, although this is mostly down to the sneaky sinister rat Milne lurking in the background pulling Corbyn's strings.

Whilst the actual incidents of anti-Semitism may be only committed by a minority of Labour's membership, it's the party's arrogance and incompetence in dealing with those in a satisfactory manner that has caused the greatest concern and produced the greatest criticism, a point you and your rabble of apologists constantly ignore, because rather than actually ask yourselves if Labour have approached this in the right way, you've decide to scream about right-wing smear campaigns and accuse everyone who doesn't agree with you of being on Israel's payroll.
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asredastheycome Posted on 10/07/2019 22:44

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See tonight that Tom Watson is appalled. How come he is deputy leader and knows apparently nothing about it. Surely if the blame is going as high as Corbyns office you would think the deputy leader might have an inkling.
Maybe he's spending too much time in the gym.[;)]
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WoodallServices Posted on 10/07/2019 22:58

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The Zionists decrying the holocaust and rightly so but have also been dining out on it for 75 years. Criticising the state of Isreal or Zionists doesn't mean you want to put Zyclon B in someone's shower.
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Pogatetz_Ate_My_Hamster_ Posted on 10/07/2019 23:04

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0.08% of Labour members disciplined for antisemitism.

Almost 50% of Tory members have openly admitted to Islamaphobic tendencies and are about to appoint a PM who mocked the appearances of Muslim women.

Guess which party the MSM have branded as bigots and constantly attacked for the last 2 years? You guessed it.
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Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 10/07/2019 23:06
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Any criticism of Israeli policy is now classed as anti semitism.

Our resident racist finger pointers oblivious to the treatment of Palestinians. Or maybe not.
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wobbleyhead Posted on 10/07/2019 23:08
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Just watched the link by Blindboygrunt1 . all posters on this thread should. open your mind [^]
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Fabios_porkpie_provider Posted on 10/07/2019 23:29

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It’s absolutely amazing (or quite frightening) how many people on here repeatedly post in a manner that is exactly as you’d expect somebody who is employed to push an agenda would post. Just ignoring pertinent factual points and repeating the same old tosh, whilst pretending to be engaging in reasoned debate. Why do they feel so threatened by all the ‘lefties’ on here?
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American_Mary Posted on 10/07/2019 23:32
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ABCD, no since late 2016 Hamas has said it will accept the 2 State solution with borders set at the ‘legal’ 1967 limits I hope that answers your question and clarifies the position. At danger of repeating myself Corbyn is a two state politician.

The majority of Muslim Palestinian’s want a two state solution but only around 40% of Israeli Jews want the same.

Do you think Palestine has a right to exist ?
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uncle_rico Posted on 10/07/2019 23:44

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“The Zionists decrying the holocaust and rightly so but have also been dining out on it for 75 years. ”

My god, a new low even for this board. Disgusting.
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redwurzel Posted on 11/07/2019 04:50

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I thought the Panorama was not very balanced. It seemed to have an agenda that the Labour Party contains a lot of anti-semites (since 2015) and is failing to deal with them and this shows that Jeremy Corbyn is either one of them or too weak to deal with them.

I wanted to see evidence of all the anti-Semitic comments and images, but they could only produce one major piece to my knowledge(the alien with the star of David on the Stature of Liberty) which was anti-semitic. The women who posted it we were told at the end, was expelled from the Labour Party so she is no longer a member.

The mural of the businessmen that JC endorsed showed the (very large sign) of Freemasonary, but that was not mentioned by the BBC (I have nothing against Freemasons btw or people of the Jewish faith), Saying JC should have recognised a lot of the businessman had big noses so they are images of Jews is a racist comment in itself and a image of Jews from the Nazi era. Why didn't the BBC say that JC endorsed the Battle of Cable Street mural when left wing members of the Labour Party physically stopped the Blackshirts marching through a densely populated Jewish area and were attacked by the Police for doing so.

Another interesting point is about Zionism - the belief in a dedicated Jewish state in the area occupied by Jewish people in biblical times (not the current Israel border btw), Orthodox Jews disagree with this. They believe that there cannot be a dedicated State until the second coming and that has not occurred yet so they are Jews who are not Zionists and what be upset to be called a Zionist.

I learnt this with my work with the Holocaust Memorial Educational Trust. I do believe millions of Jews were murdered by the Nazis and I have seen the gas chambers. I was very moved by the experience of visiting. Millions of communists, socialists, anti fascists, slavs, gypseys, asocials, jehovahs witnesses were also killed in the camps. Ken Livingstone I agree is wrong to disagree with the Holocaust, but he is no longer a close colleague of Jeremy Corbyn (programme said different) and has been expelled from the Labour Party.

I am sure there is little hardcore of strongly anti Israeli Labour members, some of which have a low opinion of Jewish people and they should never have the right to express racist behaviour and not be expelled. However the programme gave the impression they had invaded the party since 2015 and now dominated it. Why didn't the programme allow Jewish members who support Jeremy Corbyn to air their views? The lack of balance encourages me to dismiss the whole programme - a bit like reading a copy of the political stories of the Daily Mail.

I have only ever voted once for the Labour Party and I have voted quite a number of times. I don't judge myself left wing.
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EpiphanyProudfoot Posted on 11/07/2019 05:17

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'I thought the Panorama was not very balanced'

Ohhhhh yes it was!!!
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r00fie1 Posted on 11/07/2019 07:00

Zionist apartheid deniers and racist apologists

 
There are none so blind as those who do not wish to see:
www.imemc.org

The Israeli occupation army has killed 16 Palestinian children from the Gaza Strip during the first term of 2019, Al-Mezan Center for Human Rights reported on Wednesday.

The center said, in the report, that some 1,233 Palestinian children were injured while participating in the Great March of Return, and 17 others were detained.

The report stressed that Israeli occupation forces continued its systematic violations of Palestinians’ human rights in Gaza Strip, especially on the children.

According to the report, the recorded data pointed to an increase in the number of killed and injured children, as well as in the number of detentions, Al Ray further reports.
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superstu Posted on 11/07/2019 07:01

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"Ken Livingstone I agree is wrong to disagree with the Holocaust"

I don't think Ken Livingstones a holocaust denier...

The controversy a few years ago with him was that he said Hitler was a zionist based on him signing the Haavara agreement. I think he was even saying it as an argument to try and make the point that zionism =/= judaism.

Apologies if I've missed something else Kens said and he actually is a holocaust denier.
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billyzin Posted on 11/07/2019 07:35

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A 5 minute, unanswered diatribe from Luciana Berger on BBC breakfast this morning.
You would almost think the BBC had an agenda.
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hopesoboro Posted on 11/07/2019 07:59

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It's almost as if the BBC are under instruction to undermine Corbyn.[xx(]
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uncle_rico Posted on 11/07/2019 08:05

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“You would almost think the BBC had an agenda”

Ah so they have an agenda all of a sudden?

The BBC are under investigation for bias against Brexit, which has been totally dismissed by Remainers, but as soon as there’s anything negative about Corbyn and co it’s a huge smear and conspiracy. [:D]
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footyteam Posted on 11/07/2019 09:03

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Labour changes stance, 3 people leave the next day. Hmmm
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emerson_ave Posted on 11/07/2019 09:45

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I suggest that those defending Labour and Corbyn's utterly inept and shambolic handling of this issue, whatever its origins and the motivations of those pursuing it, listen to Rachel Shabi on the final item on the Today Programme this morning.
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Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 11/07/2019 09:53
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I missed the end, she came across well earlier in the interview. Can't say the same for the presenter.

I thought I must have misheard but did the presenter state the Jewish Friends of Labour were anti semitic?
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bear66 Posted on 11/07/2019 10:07

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"listen to Rachel Shabi on the final item on the Today Programme this morning"

She spent most of the time criticising the political narrative of the programme with the banal reasoning of how this is specifically an issue in the labour party. She thought that cases were being dealt with better, but she was critical of the rebuttal to the programme, which should have majored on that.
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emerson_ave Posted on 11/07/2019 10:07

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Corcaigh I didn't hear that. Those constantly crying foul are missing the point entirely. Corbyn has never been up to the job. In politics opponents exploit weaknesses. However unfair you have to be able to deal with it. Corbyn hasn't the ability to do so.
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bear66 Posted on 11/07/2019 10:12

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Sounds like he's doing a good job based on what Rachel Shabi had to say.
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hopesoboro Posted on 11/07/2019 10:16

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Sounds like Corbyn is doing a good job going by the cobblers spouted by the RWNJs on here!
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WoodallServices Posted on 11/07/2019 10:26

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Uncle Rico you drama queen do you actually read the whole post or pick the choice words for your faux outrage. Usually it doesn’t take long for any Israeli spokesperson to mention the holocaust when deflecting any criticism of their actions, invariably when they’re losing the argument.
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redwurzel Posted on 11/07/2019 15:59

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I only mentioned Ken Livingtone was a holocaust denier because that was what the BBC stated in their Panorama programme

EP - what evidence have you for your very short statement. I presented mine.

Emerson made in interesting point even though it may not have been meant i.e. the Programme theme was more about Corbyn's leadership than anti-Semitism. Emerson is right that opponents of Corbyn and a left wing Labour Party will ruthlessly attack perceived weaknesses particularly when they are fearful of change.
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Ticker_Tape Posted on 11/07/2019 16:07

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Can't stand bullies and never have, seems like the Israel govt are having a Palistinian holocaust now.

What the Germans did was unthinkable but why do Israel steal land and murder women and children and Tories support it?
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The_same_as_before Posted on 11/07/2019 16:14

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TT what do you class as a Holocaust?

I am surprised that CtC has not called you a clown
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Ticker_Tape Posted on 11/07/2019 16:21
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Well I think murdering women and children who are much much weaker than aeroplanes with bombs or soldiers armed to the teeth.

Driving them from their homeland and displacing them is ,and killing their menfolk is pretty serious.

I know , I know, the dollar, trading with the world Brexit the EU is all that matters.

What would you call a Holocaust?

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The_same_as_before Posted on 11/07/2019 16:26
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The murder of over 6 million people and attempted destruction of a religion.

Stalinism

The killing Fields

Mao's cultural Revolution

The Israelis treatment of Palastinians is shocking as was Jordon and Egypt's removal of them from their lands.
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ZippytheHippy Posted on 11/07/2019 16:31

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the systematic and calculated murder of 6 million+ jews, untold slaughter of unknown number of gays, gypsies, pols & slovaks as well as political & religious minorities incl 15000+ Jehovah's witnesses by the state.

you still have lead pipes in your house as it's the only reason I can think of.
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Ticker_Tape Posted on 11/07/2019 16:31

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Never quite understood why people like ABCD and Zippy Supported mass murder of Palestinians.

And are then up in arms when somebody asks why they are killing kids and women.

But that's how some are... Christians my ar$e
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The_same_as_before Posted on 11/07/2019 16:34

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TT again how do you describe mass murder.
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ZippytheHippy Posted on 11/07/2019 16:34

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be careful. just because you are hiding behind a keyboard does not protect you from libel.

show me where I have defended Israel's bombing of women and children or even explicitly support Israel.
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The_same_as_before Posted on 11/07/2019 16:36

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Zippy he simply has no idea how to put a reasoned argument together.
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Ticker_Tape Posted on 11/07/2019 16:38

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I've never denied the Holocaust, it's one of the reasons I'm not that fond of the Germans, the guards threw live children in furnaces. My uncle gave his life for freedom during WW2.

However I wouldn't condone what Isreal do or have done, it would be like someone taking my home from me and killing my children..... You think that Tory point scoring and that that jumped up Vvvanker ABCA are virtuos. Me its not lead pipes with you it's your a white Tory Christian supremacist.
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Ticker_Tape Posted on 11/07/2019 16:39

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[:D] id get your solicitor dum dum.
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Ticker_Tape Posted on 11/07/2019 16:42

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Your a piece of cake Blott you always were[:D]
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ZippytheHippy Posted on 11/07/2019 16:56

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do you want me to take you're threats seriously ticker_tape?

"Hate crime

The term 'hate crime' can be used to describe a range of criminal behaviour where the perpetrator is motivated by hostility or demonstrates hostility towards the victim's disability, race, religion, sexual orientation or transgender identity.

These aspects of a person's identity are known as 'protected characteristics'. A hate crime can include verbal abuse, intimidation, threats, harassment, assault and bullying, as well as damage to property. The perpetrator can also be a friend, carer or acquaintance who exploits their relationship with the victim for financial gain or some other criminal purpose."

from the cps
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Ticker_Tape Posted on 11/07/2019 17:01
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Go ahead you're nuts[:D]
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emerson_ave Posted on 11/07/2019 18:22

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'Emerson is right that opponents of Corbyn and a left wing Labour Party will ruthlessly attack perceived weaknesses particularly when they are fearful of change.'

This is the problem. Corbyn's careless association with individuals and organisations in the past has made him a soft target. A more credible leader with a coherent policy on Brexit would be in a position to win a majority in a General Election. Maybe when the time comes he will surprise me as he did in 2017. My own assessment is that that represented 'Peak Corbyn'.
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The_same_as_before Posted on 11/07/2019 19:53

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TT to know me as Blott you must be at least in your 30's. I honestly thought you were taking your A levels.

Good grief
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Ticker_Tape Posted on 11/07/2019 19:56

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Nice comeback[pa]
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