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Fingerbob Posted on 12/06/2019 22:34
Disgraceful Boro Fans - Who Do We Think We Are?
 
 
I couldn't help but submit a post about the appalling behaviour of what is unfortunately a sizeable section of the fan base. Day after day I've been reading negative, derogatory and in some cases nasty comments about our incoming manager. I've also read comments slating most of the other candidates with many people saying "not good enough" to pretty much all of them.

Who do we think we are? Maybe it's time for a reality check on the mighty Boro.

We've had one season out of the last ten in the top flight.
We didn't make the play offs last season.
We ranked 10th in the Championship for attendance, averaging just 23,217 per game.
Even Sunderland managed 32,157 average in the 3rd in league 1!
We were renowned for our terrible style of unentertaining football last season.
We've never had an attack minded manager for over a decade.
Half the senior squad was made up of premier league reject loan signings last season.
The club failed to sign pretty much every transfer target we went for.
We sold all our best player and didn't replace them.

Despite the above, we seem to think that we should be attracting a proven world class manager.

The only one I saw who seemed to have any real backing was Jokanovic. A guy who took 2 seasons to get in the play offs before he managed promotion and was then promptly sacked after he failed to win a game in 7 matches despite having spent £100m+.

Get behind Woodgate and show your support! Get behind the club and show your support!
Those of you who threaten to boycott the club then do so, but don't try and drag others down because you didn't get what you want. If you really feel that way over an appointment of a local lad then you don't deserve to be going to the games.

And as for attending the games when the season is up and running, please please please don't start booing when you see a back pass or shouting "shoot" when you feel the team isn't attacking enough or booing the team off at half time - it really doesn't help one bit. The atmosphere at the games last season was simply awful. The quietness in the stands, the tension, it all transfers to the players and we, the fans need to play our part in giving the team the boost they need.

Boro fans are very passionate, but we quite often let emotions spill over and it has a real negative effect on the team.

Give Woody a chance and get behind him 100%... He'll be excited about what lies ahead and so should we as fans of the club we love.
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Flood Posted on 12/06/2019 22:43

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I agree with a lot of what you said. Modern Boro fans are typical of the internet generation, they've achieved sod all themselves yet are quick to point the finger and whine like children.

Woodgate was a club captain, played for Real Madrid, Spurs, Geordies, Leeds and Boro so must have picked up a few good ideas along the way.

The team of Woodgate, Keane, Rosenoir sounds promising.

Wish some Boro fans would realise we aren't a top Premiership club and we need to build a future.
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Barnsy Posted on 12/06/2019 22:48

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I often get a poor response when I point out that people shouldn't assume that all posters on this forum are Boro supporters.

Well said the above.
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coluka Posted on 12/06/2019 22:49

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Is this the Boro PR machine being cranked into life again?

I think we are all individuals with a love of the team and we want the best for the team. Everyones opinion is valid if it is meant in good faith whether it be pro or anti
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Nobby_Barnes Posted on 12/06/2019 22:55

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Great post Fingerbob [^]

The reality of our financial situation means we can't attract a top European coach like most demanded.

I'm really pleased that we have a local lad as manager of our club [^]




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Nobby_Barnes Posted on 12/06/2019 22:58

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Boro PR machine Coluka ?

Who did you want as manager ?????????
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Flood Posted on 12/06/2019 23:00

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Coluka - whats the alternative? An unproven foreign manager? Maybe Jose Mourinho or Wenger would consider it?....obviously not, Nigel Pearson? - do me a favour.

Boro aren't the draw we once were. Maybe Gibson is trying to build a different management team around younger heads who are far more connected to the current crop of players.
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Abel_Tasman Posted on 12/06/2019 23:01

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Excellent post [^]. Share most of your views.
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Slimboyfat Posted on 12/06/2019 23:03

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Aww bless you fingerbob, I remember my first beer [:D]
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Funky_Chicken Posted on 12/06/2019 23:05

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Tinpot army ! - long live tinpottedness and dumbed down expectations !! [^]




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Nobby_Barnes Posted on 12/06/2019 23:07

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What you gonna buy me from Barker's Chicken ????

Regards Nobby ITK
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Funky_Chicken Posted on 12/06/2019 23:15
Edited On: 12/06/2019 23:22
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Why would I buy you anything Nobby ? You put a large bet on me being the next Boro manager and I never even applied for the job [8)]




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Link: Evidence here of your bet on me
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coluka Posted on 12/06/2019 23:22

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Flood there are managers all over people keep saying who would jump at the chance to join Boro who have delivered promotion.

Cook is one such example, Cowley another. adkins who left Hull recently. SG has a self imposed glass ceiling though of not approaching clubs to speak to their managers. They have a proven track record and know the lower leagues better than Woody will.

I suggested woodgate for u/23 manager to cut his style and showcase his ability. With a view for a shot later on.

Nobby, do you not think organisations plant people on social media to change the hearts and minds of their clientele? I know they do. I worked with several organisations who did just that, why should MFC be any different ?
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parmoboy Posted on 12/06/2019 23:26

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"Despite the above, we seem to think that we should be attracting a proven world class manager"

No Boro fan I know has said we should be attracting a proven world class manager. The majority just believe we should be attracting somebody better than Woodgate.

Fair enough, we have to taken our current financial situation into consideration, and if Jokanovic was setting his demands too high then I can't blame Gibson for saying no, but I still believe there were better options out there than Woodgate.
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Funky_Chicken Posted on 12/06/2019 23:28

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I think itís more likely Gibson told Jokanovic Woodgate was going to be part of any coaching set up an Jokanovic was quite rightly having non of it



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Derek_Duvall Posted on 12/06/2019 23:28

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That stench of burning martyr is clogging one's throat...
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Nobby_Barnes Posted on 12/06/2019 23:31

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Chicken just admit that I am truly ITK and stop hiding behind my ambiguous wording on that thread [:D]

Coluka you really think that Fingerbob is a plant by the club ?? How ridiculous

Come on then, who did you think we should have appointed ?????
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Frank_Riberys_Boat_Race Posted on 12/06/2019 23:35

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OP well said
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Funky_Chicken Posted on 12/06/2019 23:44

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You canít cone on here using long words like ambiguous Nobby, itíll mean people having to google meanings now [8)] and youíre about as in the know as the nice lady with the long dark hair who leads the mascots out before the match [smi]



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coluka Posted on 13/06/2019 00:03

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Nobby, not necessarily fingerbob, but I dont know him.or her.

It is not ridiculous to think the club use social media for all sorts of reasons. To suggest they dont is naive in the exxtreme. I meant it when i said i have worked for organisations that do just that.
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bungydinsdale Posted on 13/06/2019 01:15

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As has been said many, many times:

All the Boro, stick together!!!
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Holgatemax Posted on 13/06/2019 01:33

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Fingerbob
Agree with most of your comments. Having watched the Boro since the 80ís I do have patience but we do need attacking football.
Woodgate was not my first choice but we will judge on his performances
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gizasqueezemister Posted on 13/06/2019 04:31

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Thatís an interesting point about the 80s. Most people who were around for our brush with death in 85/86 were just happy we could put a side out at Victoria Park. That side went on to exceed expectations quite quickly. It was local lads that made the difference and made the success story that much sweeter. Gibbo will remember those days more than most. Boro fans in the 25 to 35 age range have definitely been spoilt compared to previous years. Gibbo has chucked enough of his personal wealth at mercenaries and that includes managers who just havenít lived up to expectation. Fuck knows what he must think if he ever passes the likes of Braithwaite in the corridors at rockliffe. If the coaches mentioned eventually join Woodgate then itís a big [^] from me [fb] UTB
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LeFlem Posted on 13/06/2019 04:41

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I agree with totally, but the good thing is I feel people are starting to put the animosity to Woodgate aside. How long it last lm not sure but I hope people give him a chance.
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Archie_Stephens Posted on 13/06/2019 05:45

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Excellent post, OP - possibly the most sensible thing I have read on here, from a football/club point of view in weeks.

Chicken [^] - glad you noticed that! Thought my observation had gone unappreciated the other week [:D]
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bigrichardthe3rd Posted on 13/06/2019 06:44

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Listen we are the boro, the mighty boro managers/players,, they all love it here there's something special about the place, we could of got any manager in the world, if we wanted to, we didn't we gave the chance to a local lad a boro fan, and he is probaly going to give his all to get us back to the promised land, so let's all get behind the lad, the team, and chairman, comon boro
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AndyD13 Posted on 13/06/2019 06:46

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Great post OP
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CardiffDaffs Posted on 13/06/2019 06:51

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Thatís the spirit Bigrich.

But are you telling me we turned down Pep? [|)]
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Casualfan Posted on 13/06/2019 07:05

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agree with the OP whatís the worst that can happen? We donít go up? Itís not going to happen the first season so people shouldnít be booing if weíre around 14th/15th. The gazette said last night itís going to take time. Wonít happen over night, if we have a season where weíre poor so be it, itíll be building something for the season after.

Germany did it with the national team, in sure they were playing loads of youngsters in the 2010 World Cup and everyone was saying theyíre building the team for the 2014 World Cup and look what happened. Same with Boro donít expect anything this season.

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Wanderingstar Posted on 13/06/2019 07:06

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Excellent post, Boro pr department or not. So which world class manager did we want ? Paul Cook, Danny Cowley, Nigel Adkins !!! Yeah alright then
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the_holgate_roof Posted on 13/06/2019 07:14

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a few people getting resigned to the fact now by the looks but please don't tell us that Woodgate was the best option available, no chance......
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heaton_mersey_boro Posted on 13/06/2019 07:15

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Fingerbob[^][^]

Imagine if this board was around in 1986 when Rioch took his youngsters, bargain buys and journeymen on that 3 year trip?

The Internet would have been in meltdown. You can blame the Sky generation to some extent, but older fans......dont understand.
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1finny Posted on 13/06/2019 07:16

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A great OP [:D]
Apart from the fact the managerial choices discussed on here - Hughton Joc, Adkins, Terry etc ....were no where near world class.
Itís just wrong to suggest anyone was calling for a world class manager.

We are aware of where we are and who we are but
That shouldnít mean we are looking for scraps and appointing an unsuccessful No2 who wouldnít get a managerial job anywhere else

Itís Gibboís toy and heíll do what he wants.

All fans will give him a chance - we havenít a choice.
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Exiled_in_herford Posted on 13/06/2019 07:18

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If you read carefully and digest his opening post then you'll notice that a lot of it is utter tripe. The best one being we wanted a World class manager in Jokanivic, I repeat again he thinks Jokanivic is World Class. Of course you got the rara's stirred up with it but that's par of the course.
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mwelolo Posted on 13/06/2019 07:25

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I donít want Woodgate and I am far from excited by the prospect.

Woodgateís appointment is the cheap and easy option I feared Gibson would take.

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coluka Posted on 13/06/2019 07:26

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Nobby, instead of getting so worked up about who i think we might have approached or appointed in your last post, why donít you read whom i mentioned after the first time you asked me [;)]
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Fabios_porkpie_provider Posted on 13/06/2019 07:26

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Good op[^]
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Nobby_Barnes Posted on 13/06/2019 07:27

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Jokanovic turned us down Hereford...

No money to spend, get used to it...
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Exiled_in_herford Posted on 13/06/2019 07:38

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I'm not disputing that Nobby, I'm disputing the fact that the OP thinks he's World Class. I know fine well we're skint, I mentioned it at the start of last season that was going to be the case if we didn't get promoted hence why I wanted Pulis gone a whole lot earlier to try and gain promotion. If you fail to grasp anything else that I say then give us a heads up and I'll happily correct you.
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r00fie1 Posted on 13/06/2019 07:42

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It is what it is.
UTMB[^]
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UpTheBoro70 Posted on 13/06/2019 11:26
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I agree some very uneducated and entitled fans on here. I for one am excited at prospect of a reset at the club to focus on a more attacking identity with youth given more of a chance. My most passionate and proudest memories were under rioch and not Robson and McLaren..because I identified with the players more. Regularly saw Bernie and pally down town. Let's face it we cant compete against the billionaire clubs now so let's at least try to go to matches and be entertained with some good football for the money we pay That's all I want..something to brighten my week up.
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Calculus Posted on 13/06/2019 11:49

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Too many arm chair fans. With more exposure to football than ever there's a vocal minority on here who can't understand why we aren't playing like Barcelona / City lite.

They threw their toys out about Tony Pulis and are now doing the same about Woodgate. A hipster manager would have got a few more weeks, but ultimately they'd soon be on his back demanding Gibson takes action when we aren't storming the league by Christmas.

People need to get realistic that we're a small provincial club struggling to compete due to the current financial climate. A case example is Championship clubs signing Champions League players (Wolves last season) and offering loan players 80k plus a week (Villa).

Be careful what you wish for.
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