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Exiled_in_herford Posted on 12/06/2019 06:52
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We'll play youth and we may find a gem or 2 that come from there. Young Walker is the one that I'm looking forward most to seeing.
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brattleboro Posted on 12/06/2019 06:54

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i will give him a chance to do well for the club thats for sure as i would anyone else.im sure he heard all the chants about pulis brand of football and dont think he will go down the same route.good luck
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Fabios_porkpie_provider Posted on 12/06/2019 06:54

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Number 2. Heís not Pulis.
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r00fie1 Posted on 12/06/2019 06:56

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Hes under 40 years old.
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Block21 Posted on 12/06/2019 06:57

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Heís not Tony Pulis.

The players must of wanted him to get the job.

When I went to the manager do at the riverside last year Woodgate and Fleming but mainly Woodgate was raving about Wing and Nathan Wood saying they are gonna be stars. Excited to see Wing play for a whole season rather than miss a huge chunk out of it for no reason.

Iím just get behind the appointment now it is what it is. Letís see what he can for us first before we criticise further.

UTB
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Nosmo-King Posted on 12/06/2019 06:58

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The fact is Walker did not score whilst on loan at MK Dons - in a division 2 below us. The lad is quite a way from being the real thing in senior football. He has a lot of development to occur and needs regular football on loan this coming season IMO.
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GazC_MFC Posted on 12/06/2019 07:02

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Heís worked at Liverpool
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DoomOnHorseback Posted on 12/06/2019 08:00

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You'd like to think that he'll be completely motivated to prove people wrong.
You could argue he's already got off to a bad start, he's going to have to work hard in everything he does. Including his first press conference.

It's not the appointment I was after, but I will now give him the chance to show what he's capable of. It'll be a real shame if people are going to jump on his every mistake from the off.

His team, and his backroom staff is different to being associated as the coach who oversaw training during the Pulis regime. He gets to call the shots now, rather than following out instructions given to him.
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BoroBen92 Posted on 12/06/2019 08:09

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Local lad, first Middlesbrough manager born in Middlesbrough in over 30 years.

Probably more aware of the feelings of the fanbase, more personally motivated to see the club succeed.

That and the hopeful progression of youth is all I can think of right now.
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The_same_as_before Posted on 12/06/2019 08:22
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He learnt from Pulis that fans will not accept 90% possession in your own half.
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coluka Posted on 12/06/2019 08:25

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He wont be in post that long
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Marvanelli Posted on 12/06/2019 08:37

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Got to admit the fact he isn't Pulis is a huge positive.

Imagine if Woodgate did manage to pull off promotion with attacking football.

Promoted by a local boro lad at the helm? Stuff of dreams really[^]

I would love to see Woody do what Wilder done at Sheff Utd.
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Block21 Posted on 12/06/2019 08:38

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Thatís all we can hope for Marv[^]

You never know
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festa5 Posted on 12/06/2019 08:39

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Apparently he's a red and hates Geordies.
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GraftLikeNegredo Posted on 12/06/2019 08:42

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He won't be bitter or jealous about the fact some players are earning more than him, unlike the previous management.
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UpTheBoro70 Posted on 12/06/2019 09:02

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He wants to play attacking football..and has connection s with big clubs
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Boro_Boro_Boro Posted on 12/06/2019 09:07

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He will keep the local pubs in business [^]
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Fluffy-Carpet Posted on 12/06/2019 09:18

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I know this is a thread about positives, but why is playing the youth instead of spending a positive? How many youth players in the last 10-20 years have come through our academy and gone on to have careers where they would get into a top Championship team?
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Frank_Riberys_Boat_Race Posted on 12/06/2019 09:26

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Block21 I also went to that manager do, had a good conversation about youth before He left, I think all the players wanted this appointment Alos
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LeeTublin Posted on 12/06/2019 09:35

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Block21 Posted on 12/06/2019 09:36

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Looks that way boat race [^]

Thought he spoke well that night tbh
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atypical_boro Posted on 12/06/2019 09:41

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If all the players wanted it, they will need to run through brick walls on the pitch for him, and make sure the fans quickly understand why they were right.
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Block21 Posted on 12/06/2019 09:44

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Very true Atypical
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newyddion Posted on 12/06/2019 09:55

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This bespoke backroom team is the key to next season's success. This has clearly not been a snap decision and has been in the works for several years now. Rather than having a clunky/clicky team forcing or finding their way we have a fit for purpose backroom staff that will be greater than the sum of it's parts. Very much motivated with the club's interests at heart and very well thought of within the club. We haven't got a 'big name' from Barcelona or London or League Two.. but maybe it's about time we start finding our own big names and build a future and a legacy for OUR CLUB


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tonyirons Posted on 12/06/2019 10:02

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When Woodgate and Keane were at Leeds playing under O'Leary, they played some nice attacking football. A lot of pass and move, and players all ways made themselves available, wanting the ball. It would be nice if they can bring some of that to the Riverside
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asredastheycome Posted on 12/06/2019 10:10

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Expected to open this thread to a blank page. Good to see a few positives.
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GraftLikeNegredo Posted on 12/06/2019 10:34

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"This has clearly not been a snap decision and has been in the works for several years now"

lol
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DowningAlbion Posted on 12/06/2019 10:40
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It has caused many of the doom-and-gloom merchants who wanted Pulis out to go into an even deeper gloom, and may finish some of them off (as supporters) [:D][^]
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mendieta420 Posted on 12/06/2019 10:56

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Young, passionate for the club, knows he has a lot to prove, must have impressed during interviews, very positive backroom staff.
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coluka Posted on 12/06/2019 10:59

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People actually hoping the team lose support. Well thats a novel approach i suppose
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newyddion Posted on 12/06/2019 11:06

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GraftLikeNegredo: From Karanka talking him up as one for the future, to bringing him back from the Liverpool set up to assist Agnew. His involvement with the U18s and U23s all the way to Pullis handing him the reigns for friendlies, taking training whilst he was away and even explaining his decisions to Woody and even stopping for 'teaching points' during games.
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Ironops Posted on 12/06/2019 11:12

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Exiled - are you yourself positive about it or just trying to look on the bright side?

Coluka - 'he wont be in the job long' - I fear Gibson will be pig headed about this one and we will be stuck with him for a while, through thin and thinner
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Derek_Duvall Posted on 12/06/2019 11:17

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I'm struggling at the minute.
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1finny Posted on 12/06/2019 11:40

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He was No 2 in last seasons success story
Remember - finishing 7th was a better achievement that the previous year according to the No1.
So, he has played his part in that improvement [;)]
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Indeedido Posted on 12/06/2019 11:47

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Downing Albion proving he is the poster to Woodgate the manager.
Let's see how it works out. Gibson will be delighted he gets to pick the team now too.
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DowningAlbion Posted on 12/06/2019 11:54
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"Downing Albion proving he is the poster to Woodgate the manager"

Does that actually make any sense in your own thick head?

I genuinely believe the relentlessly negative brigade are toxic and have held the club and town back for decades. Being positive and dreaming of what could be is a big part of being a football supporter. Without hope, what is the point?

If one of my hobbies made me relentlessly negative, I'd choose a new one [:D]
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redwurzel Posted on 12/06/2019 11:59

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His wage demands will be much less than an experienced manager. Hopefully making more funds available for a bigger managerial team and/or playing squad.

He happily lives locally and hopefully can devote more time to the job.

He knows the current players and they know him.

He knows the Championship.

Lampard did well at Derby in his first post last season - about the same age as Woody.

Expectations about getting promotion will be more realistic this year which may take bit of pressure off. In the past 2 years people have posted on here and they seem serious in thinking promotion is a 50% chance. The media have not being far behind.
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Derek_Duvall Posted on 12/06/2019 12:07

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But Lampard wasn't part of the previous regime, that's the difference with that point.

Woody was part of a failed regime and was part of the problem in the eyes of many supporters.

IMHO we should have started afresh. It's been a long time since I was this underwhelmed.
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TheFair86 Posted on 12/06/2019 12:10

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as per my post in the other thread I am underwhelmed but looking at the positives.

Woodgate is a "name" he may not be ronaldo or bryan robson, but he is a name nontheless. His inexperience will be tempered by the experience that Round has, and if it doesn't work out Round can smooth the transition. Hopefully Round is taking over negotiations for players and confirming targets etc. Leo gives us a bit of passion on the touchline and fans connect to him well from his time here previously. Is he a great GK coach? I imagine the club and players know better than us.

Keane has been involved in team and international setups as both player and coach so brings experience as well as hopefully helping out with our attacking play as a former top striker.

I think we would all like big names, big budget and promotion push, but we've wasted money and squandered the players we have had, so need to cut our cloth appropriately. Not ecstatic with the appointment but if these names all end up being correct and taking up the positions, lets see where it leads. It could be worse, we could be sunderland.

Hopefully we loan our way to success rather than wasting millions on damp squibs.We've got a great keeper, a great striker, some great defenders and a lot of players that have been great for other teams but underwhelming for us - hopefully we can turn them around and add some top loan signings.
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atypical_boro Posted on 12/06/2019 12:10
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Agree about the final bit Wurzel. We need to be realistic and accept that promotion would be a truly fantastic season, not just 'par'. It was in 2016 and unless the club suddenly becomes much wealthier, any likely promotions in the future should be seen as such too.

Re Lampard, he only took them one game further than Rowett and spent a fair bit. He did quite well but I can't understand how that catapults him into the Chelsea job, personally.
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dooderooni Posted on 12/06/2019 12:14

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Woodgate has a chance to make sweeping changes to the way we approach games IF he's given the players to make his ideas work. If nothing changes in our recruitment then he'll be hamstrung from the off.

Despite what people may think, most of us want the Boro to do well, but some of us can't turn a blind eye to the limitations that we seem happy to persist with.
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dragged_up_in_whinneybanks Posted on 12/06/2019 13:07

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Ummmm let me give this some thought ....
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pierrequiroule Posted on 12/06/2019 13:17

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His assistant will be the next manager.
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Indeedido Posted on 12/06/2019 13:22

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Lampard and Woodgate simply can't be compared.

Downing Albion calling me thick - ouch.
Yet delighted with a Woodgate appointment and wanting supporters to leave.

Atypical, I do 100% agree that if Woodgate achieves 12th or above he will have done well. Anybody expecting us to get promoted is deluded and he shouldn't be judged against that benchmark.
Thrilling times ahead.
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redwurzel Posted on 12/06/2019 13:34

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"Failed regime" - second half of 2017/18 was not failure for me - 2018/19 we missed the play off by 1 point only just failure. Goes back to exactly what I said about expectation which id different to what you wish for.

Norwich and Sheffield United seems to do well without the burden of expectation and Cardiff the previous season.

Woody will need good people around him and a good background structure - who ever goes into Brentford seems to do quite well which an example of a background structure.

I suspect Woody will be on trial (contractually) to limit risk opposed to giving a expensive 2 or 3 year deal to an established manager that will be expensive to cancel if he doesn't get us top 6 etc.
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Marvanelli Posted on 12/06/2019 15:25

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Another positive is the fact John Terry isn't in charge [^]
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icarus1965 Posted on 12/06/2019 15:27

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He,ll be sacked by Christmas

and bet against Boro and make money and have a snifter at relegation..
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AndyD13 Posted on 12/06/2019 15:34

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as a side issue Lampard did no better with Derby than Gary Rowett did - despite having better players.
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br14 Posted on 12/06/2019 15:45

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The positives are he won't cost much.

He's being given a go and provided he doesn't look like relegating the club I imagine the board will be happy.

As I understand it there are no parachute payments left, so the amount that can be "loaned" to the club by Steve Gibson is limited.

And any money he can inject will go to pay the salaries of players who quite often can't get a game.

So until their contracts expire, that is the reality we face.

On the other hand, you never know. You don't get to play for Real Madrid if don't know anything about the game.
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atypical_boro Posted on 12/06/2019 15:51

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He did take them to Wembley Andy, Rowett got them in play-offs, but yes, not that much better.
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sheriff_john_bunnell Posted on 12/06/2019 15:54

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Players who have come through our academy in the last 10-20 years and would get in a championship team.
Downing
Cattermole
Morrison
Brunt
Graham
Bennett
Tav
Fry
Gibson
Reach

I mean there will be more I've forgotten about.
Emphasis in recent years has been to have a big squad. I don't see the sense in paying for a grade 1 academy when you don't have room in the team for your youth players.
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joeychicago Posted on 12/06/2019 16:13

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He will actually want to be here, and refer to Boro as 'us', 'we', etc. Pulis seemed to distance himself completely, continually referencing 'this club' etc. Woody will want to be here, be grateful for the opportunity to manage the club he supports, and will have every bit of passion that Pulis lacked. I think those small things will start to bring everybody back together.

At the evening with Pulis talk prior to last season, Woody spoke really well. He spoke of the youngsters we've got, massively talked up the likes of Wing, Wood etc, so will be good to see faith be shown in players like that.

I actually think him being under Pulis is a positive. He has first hand knowledge of any concerns, things that didn't work previously, any bad eggs in camp etc. This may save a bit of time in weeding things out and getting us on track. You would expect he could hit the ground running immediately.

He will have a load of contacts within the game, as will hopefully Robbie Keane if he joins too. They've both only been out of the playing game for a short while too, so will be well up to speed on the modern player. Pulis just seemed so far our of touch.

He's not Tony Pulis.
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TheFloorFellAway Posted on 12/06/2019 16:20

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Weíll win loads of games with him in league one next year! [LOVE]
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atypical_boro Posted on 12/06/2019 16:39

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"Woody will want to be here, be grateful for the opportunity to manage the club he supports"

Hmm, what if Spurs offer him a job in January? History suggests he'd be off like a shot!

I'm supporting him because he's now the club's manager, but I'm not having this 'one of us' stuff unless he clarifies why he went to Spurs in 2008 when they were rubbish.
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big_OL Posted on 12/06/2019 20:39

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What I donít get is why people think one of the most intelligent defenders of his generation would be stupid when it comes to management. Why do people think he will play XXXXXX football when as a defender he used to bring the ball out the back and find a pass. Heís played in some great attacking teams under some top class managers. If he gets the coaching staff that we have been linked with then I think he will do a good job.

Guess it just depends on what your expectations are, we are clearly cutting back again so Iím not expecting promotion but if we are playing decent football and look like building for the future then Iím happy with that.
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Pottomed Posted on 12/06/2019 20:45

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Colukas dream,another manager to Slag
What an embarrassing poster
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Ripley_11 Posted on 12/06/2019 20:50

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This has been planned for quite some time so Gibson clearly sees something very positive in him and the players are very happy from what weíve been told. He wants whatís best for the club and has gone into the post with his eyes wide open - and if we keep Randolf, Fry, Wing and Britt - we have an excellent spine of the team for him to build on.

Wonít slate Britt after every game.
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Vena Posted on 12/06/2019 21:06

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I think he can lower fans expectations to a level where it takes some of the pressure off the team, hopefully he can do this in way that keeps the expectations of the players up and doesn't dissolution some of better players.

Youth and home grown players given a shot.

New ideas.

He's not Pulis.

I reckon Gibo's goals have changed since chances of glory have all but gone without unrealistic investment, he is trying to replicate one of his proudest days at the club, The Fulham game where we fielded 11 English players, the majority homegrown, (why not start with the manager) this is more achievable than a cup win or significant league placing, I just hope it's achievable at this level though, and I'd find it hard not to back that vision and hope he hints at it when he makes his statement so we can all get behind it.
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Barnsy Posted on 12/06/2019 21:12

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He won't join in with the inner circle persistently saying, '100% agree', '.... nailed it'.

He'll be his own man, I'm sure.
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sheriff_john_bunnell Posted on 12/06/2019 21:37

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Weren't we quite happy to sell him to spurs? His form dipped and we needed some money.
Don't know why he left our academy for Leeds.
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atypical_boro Posted on 12/06/2019 22:47

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Dunno sheriff. We all know that once a player says they wanna go itís pointless hanging on to them.

Iíd like him to talk about it a little bit, if he wants me to view him as a ďclub heroĒ etc, which he very probably might not care about one jot of course, which is fine. But as things stand heís just our manager and ex-player, and for that reason I will support him.
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MoggasDog Posted on 12/06/2019 22:51

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Anybody who watched this lad play surely wouldnt expect Pulis style football?

A class act as a player so I am expecting some good football.
Same as Robbo. He only knew how to play one way and it was the best way.
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Exiled_in_herford Posted on 13/06/2019 07:46

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I'm not overly fussed either way Ironops. I think he'll try and bring a brand of youthful attacking football but unfortunately won't be given any time whatsoever as the first time we get beat the knives will be out. I never wanted Pulis from the off but that's due to what I knew about his style of play and how supporters of other clubs felt about him once he'd left their club.

No one knows anything about how Jonny is going to play and most of why people are tending not to like bloke is because of hearsay. Most on here won't have met him although I accept a few will have. It'll be interesting to see how he has us playing and I certainly don't think he'll have us playing the anti-football that Pulis had. So with absolutely every manager apart from Pulis he has my backing from the off.
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Wanderingstar Posted on 13/06/2019 08:26

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Absolutely right exiled. Out of the options available a new model and a enterprising style of football is required. Last season brand of football was the worst ever for me served up an arrogant man who thought he was doing us a favour. Woodgate will be his own man and needs our support
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Borocelt Posted on 13/06/2019 08:43

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He's not Pulis.

It's a very big stab in the dark, lets be honest. Here's hoping it pays off.
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foomanboro Posted on 13/06/2019 10:03

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Even though he is injury prone this will matter less as a manager.
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