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gallivant Posted on 11/06/2019 12:28
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She is on the Daily Politics, she represents a constituency that voted 66.2% and is still bashing on about remaining, I think that she will struggle to hang on at a General Election. She then got involved with the next leader of the Tory Party and she was very anti Said David blaming him for the steelworks closing in her constituency.......I stupidly though that it was bad business decisions by SSI?
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TheFair86 Posted on 11/06/2019 12:35
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It was bad business decisions however the Tory party could have done something about it and supported the industry, but chose not to citing fictitious EU regulations. Now that British Steel is in the mire, people are again asking for action to be taken, although there's good reasons for not "rescuing" the parent firm this time round.

Anna Turley has my full support to be honest, I don't care what people voted for 3 years ago off the back of a fraudulent campaign.
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reddybrek Posted on 11/06/2019 12:37

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She's a good MP and I fully support her views on Brexit.
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AndyD13 Posted on 11/06/2019 12:38

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Well said Fair.[^]
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TheFair86 Posted on 11/06/2019 12:42

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Worth noting that those little anti-turley pro-brexit protest campaigns that took place twice in Redcar had 12 and 50 people at them and some of them came from south durham lol.

but I am sure some witty-king will be a long to call her anna turkey.
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Barney_Rubble Posted on 11/06/2019 12:47

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When British Steel / Corus / Tata first went belly up werent Labour in power ????
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Cooper6711 Posted on 11/06/2019 12:54

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Lost my vote and I've always voted Labour. Held my nose last time voting for her but won't do it again.

I used to follow her on Facebook until I was blocked for having another opinion (pre brexit) like she blocks everyone else who states something different.

She spent most of her timing posting anti Corbyn posts during the attempted coup with Owen Smith blaming local council results on him along with it instead of taking a look at herself. Now she seems to just ignore that 2/3 of her constituents voted to leave.

Typical Blairite MP.. she should have gone and joined the success of Change UK
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Ironops Posted on 11/06/2019 12:57

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We live in a representative democracy, not a direct democracy. So we elect an MP to represent us, not to blindly do exactly what the voters want.

In 2017 Redcar voted to elect her, despite her views on Brexit. Perhaps in the autumn they will get the chance to get rid of her - or not
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TheFair86 Posted on 11/06/2019 13:03
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Weird, I've posted on her facebook page many a time with a differing opinion to her on issues and I have never been blocked, same with Paul Williams. however I have always been polite and debated properly.

Are you sure you just had a "different opinion" and weren't being abusive? I've seen many people complaining about paul Williams "silencing" them by blocking them, but they were persistently trolling him and calling him a traitor or worse. Saw the same names popping up posting some shocking stuff, so not surprising that they will only put up with so much abuse from people. The definition of having an opposing view varies wildly.

People often say this about 2/3 constituents voting leave - that was 3 years ago man. Do you honestly think she does not engage with constituents daily and receive contacts from them? MP's will gauge the feeling of their constituents today, not based on a non-binding vote 3 years ago and throw them down a hole. National polling by Yougov, you've gotta go back to Jan 18 to find a poll they've done that says we are right to leave the EU. Fairly telling. Prior to that was one on 11th July 2017. From 1st of May 2016-June 2017 they were consistently hitting supportive results so you cant say they skewed it - its basically once people saw what Brexit was going to deliver, a lot of support evaporated.

EU election results cant be used as an indicator as all pro-brexit voters piled on the Brexit party and most major parties didnt even bother campaigning, and remain vote was split between those parties, assuming people even crossed party lines which many won't.
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Foggysfplandiet3 Posted on 11/06/2019 13:23
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Mo Mowlem is greatly missed [|)]
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joebolton Posted on 11/06/2019 13:26

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Anna Turley was elected on the back of this statement , and voting for A50 to be triggered.
During the referendum people on Teesside sent Westminster a clear message that the current social, economic and political settlement is not working and that they wanted to see change. I heard that message loud and clear in the conversations I have had with residents when out knocking on doors. It is my job now to ensure that the views, concerns and interests of all of my constituents from Marske and Redcar, through to Greater Eston and Ormesby are heard in the exit negotiations.
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Borocelt Posted on 11/06/2019 13:30

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Democracy didnít begin nor end in 2016, nor did it dictate how everyone must think forever more. If the leavers hate it so much, perhaps they should app cry off to North Korea?
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TheFair86 Posted on 11/06/2019 13:35
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And that probably was the message she heard at the time of campaigning. But even the general election was 2 years ago and as per my comments above, yougov tracking doesn't show public opinion turning until negotiations for Brexit got underway and people started to see what Brexit would actually look like.

The Wiki page for post referendum polling tracks the polls for how would you vote in a second referendum and are we right/wrong to leave the EU, and it inserts dates and events. It is right up to the general election that support for Brexit is maintained in the polls and people said they would still vote leave. Literally as brexit negotiations begin on the 19th June, the tide turns, but there was an occasional poll showing support still. From that point on however its just a collapse in support.

So she isn't wrong, when campaigning for the election she heard peoples voices but that was leading up to 8th June 2017 - next week that is 2 years ago. 2 years ago Liverpool winning the champions league and holland being second only to portugal in the nations league would probably have been bizarre ideas. A month later Robertson signed for pool from Hull for £8m and raised a few eyebrows about liverpools ambition. Worth a fair bit more now. As I said, lot changes in 2 years, let alone 3. 2 years ago we were being managed by Garry Monk.

When I vote for an MP I vote for them to adapt to the situation and use common sense and their knowledge and experience, not to blindly walk off a cliff because something was said 3 years ago. YMMV.

Link: Post referendum polling
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American_Mary Posted on 11/06/2019 13:46

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Brexit is not the only issue in the world, in fact it has been a handy distraction instead of taking the government to task for a whole host of reasons including their failure to get concessions that would have rendered the whole referendum futile there seems to be an inordinate cacophony which is much ado about nothing.

Turkey was elected on the basis of the Labour and Cooperative party manifesto which is clear on the terms of Brexit, read it and tell me Turley is not delivering what was proposed ?

The whole deselect Turley campaign is one so embarrassing in its naivety and lack of understanding of the political process that it can only be counter productive to their cause. Members of the constituency party have powers of deselection not Farageophiles from Peterlee.

The only MP I have ever been blocked by was Tom Blenkinsopp when I questioned whether after Corbyn had been elected leader he should perhaps spend more attacking the Tories policy on austerity rather than his own leader. I certainly wasnít abusive just frustrated that on a day that was going to push thousands of people into greater poverty his focus was on attacking Corbyn.
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Alan_Breck Posted on 11/06/2019 13:46

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"When British Steel / Corus / Tata first went belly up werent Labour in power ????"

That would be the Vera Baird era then, who more interested in getting Labour MPs names, and her own, redacted from the parliamentary fraud scandal.

The Tory's do little for the area that's true, just like Labour, so don't put the likes of Turley on a pedestal. The north east, especially Teesside, are a barren wasteland for all parties.

#UTB
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uncle_rico Posted on 11/06/2019 14:20
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She's a terrible MP who has done very little for the area she represents.

The constituency voted to leave by 2 to 1, yet she has done nothing but go against the will of her constituents for the last 3 years.

She thinks that by tweeting about parmos and Glenn Durrant people will support her.
She will not hold the seat at the next GE as most in R&C can see through her.
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jam69 Posted on 11/06/2019 14:34
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she hasnt gone against the will of her constituents, around a third of her constituents voted leave in a referendum 3 years ago. shes in the HOC to represent all of her constituents on all issues not just brexit.
a friend of mine who lives in the area does not like her position on brexit, he voted leave, but would rather have a labour MP in the house of commons regardless of their stance on brexit
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Ironops Posted on 11/06/2019 14:39

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'She's a terrible MP who has done very little for the area she represents.'


what exactly is it you think she could do for the area that she hasnt done?
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WoodallServices Posted on 11/06/2019 14:50

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I ask this question often (even to my mam & dad) and never get an answer...
Living on Teesside and seeing industry decimated since Thatcher, when we leave the EU and are at the mercy of America and China, which industries are going to make the UK and more importantly Teesside...
Great Again???
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icarus1965 Posted on 11/06/2019 14:52

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And what exactly does a MP who isn't in power supposed to do ?

The ones who want Anna out are the toothless gammons who voted ukip...
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Cooper6711 Posted on 11/06/2019 14:55

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No I wasn't banned for being abusive I was banned for questioning her regarding a post about Jeremy Corbyn and her stance. Not even a reply just banned.

I wouldn't get so hung up on poles either if I did Brexit would now be history and the tories would have a huge majority
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TheFair86 Posted on 11/06/2019 14:58
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No it wouldn't, most polls leading up to Brexit showed it was going to be very close and it was, with each side swinging back and forth. The only strong support for remain was shown right after Jo Cox's murder with an outpouring of support due to it being a right-winger and then leading up to the vote again it went back to being close. She died just a week or so before the vote.

Take a look yourself below.

Link: EU referendum polling
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Lefty Posted on 11/06/2019 15:02

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I wish she was my MP instead of Simon Clarke.

I've engaged with quite a lot of Politicians over the last few years and she is one of the best. She understands the issues around brexit better than most, she engages and replies. She has been critical of her Party on several issues such as their tackling of anti-semitism.

She can't possibly support a brexit that the governments own figures forecast would be terrible for her constituents, hence her support for a people's vote on whatever the final Brexit deal looks like.

And she fought hard to save our steel and is using her knowledge to help mp's in the other threatened steel regions.

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TheFair86 Posted on 11/06/2019 15:15

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Yes, excellent point around the impact to the north easy - all the assessments come back saying we will be hardest hit, and we received the most EU money in the region - something not everyone was aware of when voting. She would be negligent IMO if she pushed for brexit purely based on a vote 3 years ago, knowing that British Steel is the tip of the ice berg.
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uncle_rico Posted on 11/06/2019 15:23

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Ah typical leftie reverting to abuse and racism. Nice one Icarus.

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yearbyred Posted on 11/06/2019 15:25

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Does this mean Lefty isn't a typical Lefty (Leftie)?
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WoodallServices Posted on 11/06/2019 15:37

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Abuse and racism?? Grow up!!
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BoroBen92 Posted on 11/06/2019 15:41

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Long may she remain our MP.
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icarus1965 Posted on 11/06/2019 16:00

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The ones who turned up were bald fat and toothless and from Durham !
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icarus1965 Posted on 11/06/2019 17:27

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Uncle Rico

you are deluded to think a Tory or even a ukipper will get the Redcar seat...
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mendieta420 Posted on 11/06/2019 17:42

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Anna has been a top MP. Better than Redcar deserves.
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mickgaz Posted on 11/06/2019 17:46

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She is like Paul Williams Stockton south and all other Labour Mp's
Lied to there constituents to get there seats all gone a the next election.
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icarus1965 Posted on 11/06/2019 17:50

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Mickgaz


Which party will get the the one policy Brexit party ?
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gallivant Posted on 11/06/2019 17:51

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Take a look at the "Deselect Anna Turley' page on Facebook
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TheFair86 Posted on 11/06/2019 17:56

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Just had a gander, 1.4k likes so about 15% of the likes she has on her page so again a minority. A cheaper glance shows daily mail rants being posted as gospel and the usual cookie cutter Union Jack profile pics (some with poppies for bonus points) waxing lyrical in capital letters spouting the usual bile.

Is this meant to show something other than a looney minority? Where were these all when the yellow jacket protests happened twice?
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icarus1965 Posted on 11/06/2019 17:56

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full of ukip voters AND NUTTERS !
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TheFair86 Posted on 11/06/2019 18:00

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Hereís a class example, I can just imagine this guy bashing the keyboard and drooling ď...AnD aNoTHEr ThInG!Ē

Well said, Chris . How about this for a suggestion . . .The whole problem stems from the interpretation of WHAT DO OUR MP'S DO . . . Are they elected to SERVE the people - or elected to do as they think is right IN THEIR OPINION. . . . BECAUSE - that is what is happening. As Chris McGlade said - 84 % of LABOUR MP's constituents voted LEAVE - but the MP's decided that " IN THEIR OPINION - LEAVE WAS THE WRONG DECISION !! " WHO GIVES THEM THE RIGHT TO DO THAT !! ?? The same APPLIES in the rest of PARLIAMENT !! Now we have that arrogant little up-start - THE SUPPOSEDLY IMPARTIAL SPEAKER of the HOUSE - John BERCOW - not content with perverting HISTORY last term with interfering in a vote - HE IS NOW TELLING ALL AND SUNDRY that " HE WILL BE STAYING ON AS SPEAKER - TO ENSURE THAT ANY NEW BREXIT MINDED PM WILL NOT BE ABLE TO RIDE ROUGH-SHOD OVER TORY POLITICIANS AND THREATENING WITH DE-SELECTION IF THEY DO NOT AGREE WITH A LEAVE WITH NO DEAL DECISION ". Just what the hell is happening in the - supposed - MOTHER OF ALL PARLIAMENTS !! GET BERCOW OUT NOW !! The SPEAKER is supposed to be UNBIASED in all policies in the House - his actions are far from that. There needs to be IMMEDIATELY on return - a vote of NO CONFIDENCE IN THE MAN - AND KICK THE SOCIALIST UPSTART OUT !! . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Has anyone noticed that the EU " Battle Captains" have regrouped the EU wagon train in a circle around the camp-fire already - we haven't even thought about coming back from our pre-summer holiday break holiday ( aka Whitsuntide ) and they have already stated THE OBVIOUS from Herr JUNKHEAD - " WHOEVER THE NEW UK Prime Minister is - HE OR SHE NEEDS TO KNOW THAT THE BREXIT AGREEMENT - WILL NOT BE REVISITED - NO CHANCE !! " SO - let's just stick TWO FINGERS AT THEM _ TELL THEM WE WILL BE PACKING UP AND MOVING OUT ON AUGUST 1ST - AND TAKING OUR £39 BILLION AWAY ON OUR HOLIDAYS TOO. IF they want to talk about a deal - we'll let them know when we are ready . However - IF ANY OF THE EU NATIONS WOULD LIKE TO OPEN TALKS WITH US ON A NATION BY NATION DEAL - WE WILL BE OPEN TO DEALING WITH THEM ON EXACTLY THE SAME TERMS AS FOR THE LAST 5 YEARS AS LONG AS THEY ARE PREPARED TO DEAL WITHIN 14 DAYS. We will also treat everyone who is a passport holder from any current EU nation with free passage into and out of the UK as normal. Permanent residency will be considered after a 2 year moratorium on NO NEW PERMANENCE VISAS until we - as a Nation - have time to assess new legislation and numbers. Our airports, docks and rail stations will also continue exactly the same as before - as long as reciprocal deals are in place. Same as for food, medicine and all previously held trade deals with any UK based companies. ALL Financial institutions will operate on the same principles too - as long as the EU banks reciprocate. WE WILL BE HAPPY TO CONTINUE TO TRADE WITH ANYONE WHO WISHES TO CONTINUE OR OPEN NEW TRADE WITH US. . . The EU will be FINISHED within 12 months - or less !!😀🇬🇧😁🇬🇧🤓🇬🇧😎🇬🇧😘🇬🇧
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uncle_rico Posted on 11/06/2019 18:04

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"you are deluded to think a Tory or even a ukipper will get the Redcar seat..."

Where have I said that Tories or UKIP will get the Redcar seat?

This is just another example of pinning a red rosette on a donkey and sheep voting for them regardless.

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icarus1965 Posted on 11/06/2019 18:07

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BREXIT PARTY

now you are having a laugh, please tell me how many Mp's this party has so far in a UK Parliament..?
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mickgaz Posted on 11/06/2019 18:34

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Anyone who votes for the brexit party in a General election is deluded.After always voting Labour I have no choice but to vote Conservative next election after being conned by Paul Williams.
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TheFair86 Posted on 11/06/2019 18:40

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How did he con you mickgaz? Can you post parts of the labour manifesto you think he has not delivered on?
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GusboroughSteve Posted on 11/06/2019 18:42

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Uncle Rico. Because they don't do the rosette pinning in North Yorkshire do they?
There is little you can do with no money. The Mayor is getting results because he has money.
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mickgaz Posted on 11/06/2019 18:47

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The fair in his flyers before the last General election He said respected the referendum result and the wishes of 62% of Stockton south to leave the E.U.
Since he got elected he has at every vote in parliament voted against brexit and tried to stop it that in my eyes makes him a liar.
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yearbyred Posted on 11/06/2019 19:22

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ďAnyone who votes for the brexit party in a General election is deluded.After always voting Labour I have no choice but to vote Conservative next election after being conned by Paul Williams.Ē

So you will vote for the current government who have been in charge of delivering brexit for the past 2 years but have failed? Which part of that is Paul Williams fault? Did you want him to support Mays deal?
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jam69 Posted on 11/06/2019 19:27

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so your a socialist whos switching to the Tories for been worse at brexit than the government?[?]
these life long labour supporters eh, no wonder the term shy Tory gets banded about. still at least you can admit to voting Tory which so many shy ones on here can not.
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TheFair86 Posted on 11/06/2019 19:34
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Mickgaz word for word Paul williams election leaflet from 2017 says 'I will ensure we get the best brexit deal for our community, protecting jobs and and creating new opportunities for the teesside economy".

Considering what we know Brexit will do to the north east based on the governments own projections, I think he has honoured that.

Sorry but from the posts I've seen you make on fmttm I struggle with the concept you are a labour voter, especially with the idea that you will just switch to conservatives after lifelong voting.
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mickgaz Posted on 11/06/2019 22:36

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The fair I will switch back when Labour MPs start doing what they were elected to do and Corbyn is gone.
Also I was at family birthday party at the weekend and I come from a family of miners going back years and everyone one them said they will not vote again for this current Labour party and especially while Corbyn is leading it.
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TheFair86 Posted on 12/06/2019 07:48

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Yet Iíve just told you what his election leaflet said he campaigned on, i remember him knocking at my door and that was what he said but youíve posted some fictitious version of events from a false memory (or just utterly made up, not sure which 🤷🏼‍♂️) so labour, especially Paul Williams, appear to be doing just that.

They are elected to represent all their constituents, not just those that voted in a fraud riddled non-binding vote 3 years ago.
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jam69 Posted on 12/06/2019 08:54

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Mick what do you want the Labour party to go back to? the failed campaigns of brown and Miliband, new Labour or Kinnock? or further back to wilson. which leaders were you behind? and what polices would get you back ?
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jam69 Posted on 12/06/2019 08:54

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Mick what do you want the Labour party to go back to? the failed campaigns of brown and Miliband, new Labour or Kinnock? or further back to wilson. which leaders were you behind? and what polices would get you back ?
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GusboroughSteve Posted on 12/06/2019 10:10

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Mickgaz
So who are the family going to vote for?
Any vote not for Labour results in a Tory Gov. Is that what they want?
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mickgaz Posted on 12/06/2019 12:25

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Guisborough Steve a lot of them are older than me and said they will not bother voting again.
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TeessideCleveland Posted on 12/06/2019 12:58

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Does anyone ever criticise John Redwood for pushing for Brexit despite his constituents voting Remain?
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jam69 Posted on 12/06/2019 13:12

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so Mick who did you admire leading the Labour party? what polices do you think they should drop and replace?
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Matt07 Posted on 12/06/2019 14:12

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66.2%. Come the GE the people of Redcar will decide her fate. Look what happened at the Local Elections people do remember.
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Cooper6711 Posted on 12/06/2019 14:45

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They will like myself and I will not be voting for her. It's not like Redcar is always Labour the lib dems took it in 2010 so if Labour voters in Redcar are unhappy it will show at the ballot box
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TheFair86 Posted on 12/06/2019 14:53

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" Look what happened at the Local Elections people do remember."

Pro brexit party Conservatives lost over 1,334 seats. Brexit wish wash labour lost around 80 seats. Anti brexit greens gained 194 councillors and anti brexit lib dems gained 703 seats.

???

Pro brexit UKIP lost 145 seats..
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Matt07 Posted on 12/06/2019 15:13

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Like I said earlier the people of Redcar will judge her. One man one vote. Do you live in the Redcar area TheFair86 ??
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ColinAllcars Posted on 12/06/2019 15:33

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I have a wonderful screenshot of a tweet (quickly deleted) she posted suggesting @cathynewman punch some man in the face.

Imagine the outrage if a male MP advised punching a woman in the face[xx(]

GONE!!
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jam69 Posted on 12/06/2019 16:13

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one ukip fella talked about raping a female MP and still went on to stand in the recent euro elections, still he's not Labour is he so all's well
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TheFair86 Posted on 12/06/2019 16:27

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Matt, no I don't, but have family that do and all of my girlfriends family still do (and her, on paper) so spend a lot of time there.

One Man One Vote, yes quite true.

In the local council elections, one man one vote equalled:

Independent 17758 votes
Conservative 16864 votes
Labour 23425 votes
Lib Dem 16264 votes
Green 377 votes
UKIP 3365 votes
The For Britain Movement 231 votes

So Redcar is utterly disillusioned with labour and will immediately vote anna turley out, yet labour still got more than 5,500 votes more than the combined total of all independent votes pooled together, or in terms of actual parties, 6,561 more than the conservatives? This is labour that is fighting no deal and blocking Brexit, yet the people of Redcar still backed them? Yes, they lost some support, but still by far got the most votes.
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American_Mary Posted on 12/06/2019 16:33

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Jam you only have to look at the criminal record of that hero of the British nation, Yaxley-Lennon, to know that certain traits only apply to certain posters.

My view is that no one should be telling another person to assault an MP or anybody else for that matter.
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Matt07 Posted on 12/06/2019 17:09

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Fair, interesting times but if I had to put money down, it would be on Turley to loss her seat, judging the mood in the area where I live( Redcar ).
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Cooper6711 Posted on 12/06/2019 17:20

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The local elections do not take into account the brexit party.... brexit labour votes in redcar will move to the brexit party in a GE. Not available the local council elections.... I live in Redcar and would be very confident that Turley will lose her seat
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TheFair86 Posted on 12/06/2019 17:22

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But you said based on the local election results which is very recent, and a lot more people voted for labour than any other party. You cant know many people where you live for that to be anything other than anecdotal, even the biggest socialite only knows a few dozen people and some more at work, which is insignificant compared to the size of the electorate. Of 78,284 votes cast labour got the most so not sure how you are equating that to the people of redcar voting out a politician who works for the party they just voted most for? Surely if the people of redcar were sick of labour and sick of turley they wouldn't have given them the most votes?

Again, as per my comments above, it appears only a minority support this view.
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TheFair86 Posted on 12/06/2019 17:35
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'The local elections do not take into account the brexit party.... brexit labour votes in redcar will move to the brexit party in a GE. Not available the local council elections.... I live in Redcar and would be very confident that Turley will lose her seat'

Brexit party politics would be diametrically opposed to Labour, Lib Dem, Green and probably many independents. Realistically few people are going to vote for "the brexit party" in a general election as they are going to have about a sensible a manifesto as UKIP. UKIP still existed for the local elections for brexit advocates to go with, and only got 3365 votes, and the 'For britain movement' even worse still, so I find it hard to believe that will translate to knocking about off a 5k local election win and a 9485 majority in the general election.

nor do I find it believable that current pro brexit citizens that are enraged with turley and will deslect her, still supported the brexit-blocking labour party at council level massively in the local elections and will magically switch in swathes.
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Matt07 Posted on 12/06/2019 17:45

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My particular ward where I live, they are all (X3)Independents councillors now. Before the council election all Labour. Now if that doesn't tell you something.I listen to people who live in the area, shes gone mate a safer bet than Woodgate getting the Boro job.
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TheFair86 Posted on 12/06/2019 17:50

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yes but that is one ward. There are other wards with labour councillors. The overall electorate of R&C is what matters, not what your ward or your mates voted for, and overwhelmingly in the recent elections R&C voted for labour by a majority of over 5,000 votes.

Not sure what sort of spin tells you that means she is gone if people hate labour in redcar suddenly, why are they voting for her party?
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Cooper6711 Posted on 12/06/2019 17:53

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European election results for redcar and Cleveland
The brexit party 14,865
Labour 4,207

the most recent election to have taken place. I think you are given credit for party manifesto's when most of the public just walk into a booth and stick a tick against someones name.

10,000 plus votes above labour.... all them votes are not going back to labour in a GE
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Matt07 Posted on 12/06/2019 18:01

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Fair most wards that had independents contest them got voted in. If more wards had independents stand for election I would hazard a guess and say that the votes would have been taken from the labour party candidates standing. I don't ask my wife, children, friends how they cast their private ballot that is up to them.
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ColinAllcars Posted on 12/06/2019 18:01

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'one ukip fella' actually said he wouldn't rape Jess Phillips when the loathsome creature was recorded laughing at the idea of Parliament discussing Male Suicide Rates.

Some men are that feeble-minded they still vote for her due to her sporting a red rosette.
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TheFair86 Posted on 12/06/2019 18:06

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Cooper. Labour and conservatives barely even campaigned for Eu representation and turnout was very low. All the pro Brexit votes lumped on one party and the rest split between the majors? Not really representative. They didnít get in when farage headed up ukip so why would they now he is heading up Brexit party? Eu election was an inconsequential vote whereas Pepe have a bit more sense when it comes to whoís running the country. They couldnít even get in Peterborough and were up against a terrible candidate.
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jcjc Posted on 12/06/2019 22:08

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she always knows better than the people she was elected to represent
lets hope the people see sense next time and send her back home
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RyeHillsOldBoy Posted on 12/06/2019 22:27

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Letís face it.

Only once in living memory has my town voted against labour. Regardless of what is happening nationally or globally.

For those with short memories, Anna included, that was when Labour stood by and let Corus close the blast furnace down the first time. Gordon Brown said exactly the same as the Conservatives when SSI went pop. Donít forget that.

The sitting MP dear Vera was wiped out in the biggest vote swing of that general election across the whole UK.

For once Redcar sent a message to Westminster.

I thought Ian Swales did an ok job and was sad he stepped down.

Next time round....... Labour parachute into a safe seat an outsider who they obviously thought had a bright future.

We donít learn

. Both main parties treat us with equal distain. One takes us for granted. One couldnít care as they know they will never take the seat.
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American_Mary Posted on 13/06/2019 11:28

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The only hope the Brexit Party have of winning any seats is if there's a GE before we leave, to me they are a one issue pressure group not a real real political party with nay real policy beyond leaving the EU...
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Matt07 Posted on 13/06/2019 14:00

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Mary agreed, if the Brexit Party do have to fight a GE. I can see them putting together a fully costed manifesto, addressing other pressing matters which this country needs to look at as a whole. Becoming another Party to challenge the mainstream Party's, interesting times.
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