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sheriff_john_bunnell Posted on 15/04/2019 18:45
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Another bone thrown for renters. If only parliament wasn't clogged up by petty Brexit arguments. This is much more important. Lots more needed though. We need controlled rents. Longer tenancies. And flats to rent in the first place. A few one bedrooms would be nice.




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coluka Posted on 15/04/2019 19:11

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I agree rents should be controlled and decent tenants protected.

My worry on this though is it will reduce the supply of rented accommodation. Accidental landlords may decide not to rent at all as 1 example.

I do also think that this will have an effect with a significant number of landlords serving notices and selling up in the short term before it is brought in. Additionally I suspect they may have to do something in legislation for the court process against tenants, and for the landlord, where a tenant breaches a tenancy for some reason. It does seem a little loaded in a tenants favour. Any system should be fair and responsive all round

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sheriff_john_bunnell Posted on 15/04/2019 19:18

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Would not disagree on any of that.
Perhaps the council could start building houses and renting them out again. [^]
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boro_in_la Posted on 15/04/2019 20:05

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they are idiotic. There is next to no protection or enforcement for individual home owners who are not in it for business as it is. Once it becomes clear that this is going to go through I will be evicting my own tenant to sell up or use the house myself as a second home.
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The_same_as_before Posted on 15/04/2019 20:48

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In a similar vein, me very much included, when Wonga and other pay day loan companies were further legislated against, only looked at the good news it is.

The bad news is that poor people have moved to door step loans. There is an upsurge in people going to the Samaratans and charities.
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r00fie1 Posted on 15/04/2019 21:32

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Stop the right of anyone to buy up social housing. It wasnt provided as a cheap opportunity for private individuals to make a profit: social housing was / is an alternative to slum housing and private landlords - to give ordinary people a decent home in which to bring up their familie, based on human dignity not how much money you have in your wallet.[^]
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bear66 Posted on 15/04/2019 21:33

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"I will be evicting my own tenant to sell up or use the house myself as a second home."

If a private housing system fails, the government housing policy of decimating social housing has failed.

Only government can solve the problem it's caused.
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The_same_as_before Posted on 15/04/2019 21:59

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Roofie on the button. And all unoccupied property to be bought in at 60% of realisable after 3 years
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Mfc79 Posted on 15/04/2019 22:57

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Im sorry but you cant have your cake and eat it. The government sold off its stock of housing. They were happy enough to cash in and take the money of joe public who in turn have sold them on. Theres no point in attacking private landlords. Its just an ignorant argument. If theres a shortage of social housing thats the governments fault and the government alone.
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Anton_Berg Posted on 16/04/2019 10:39

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In the mid 70s, it was almost impossible to find a flat to rent. Tenants had been given more protection and landlords quit the market. If you had a rent book, you were secure and and quite often in for a 5,000 bribe to leave (lot of money in those days).
If you didn't have a secure tenancy, you would have to be a 'guest' of a tenant, 'invisible' to the landlord, and have no rights at all.
It's about getting the balance right.
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bear66 Posted on 16/04/2019 10:57

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The balance was fine in the 70s. I had no problems renting a flat. No one tried to bribe me to leave.
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Boro_Boro_Boro Posted on 16/04/2019 10:58

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Utterly ridiculous decision IMO. If you have a good tenant then usually you want to keep them. If you have a bad one you have to jump through so many hoops to evict them its crazy.

this just makes it that little bit harder to evict the bad ones.

and id love to know what constitutes a "valid reason" for eviction notices.

This has focused on the negatives of poor landlords when it should have addressed the negatives of both poor landlords (the minority) and poor tenants (the majority)
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bear66 Posted on 16/04/2019 11:04

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A bad landlord will attempt to evict a tenant when there is no fault.

A Section 8 still exists for landlords to evict with a valid reason.

Currently 46% of tenants who make a formal complaint are evicted within 6 months. There are poor landlords.
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Emmersons_BrazillianDong Posted on 16/04/2019 11:11
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The most important thing is that the courts deal swiftly with cases where there is a legitimate reason for eviction.

Let's be honest - that's not going to happen.

Consideration should also be made to extend the mandatory grounds for possession and also to ensure that the discretionary grounds are considered in a fair way that's not heavily in favour of the tenant.

There are some terrible landlords out there and they should be weeded out properly.

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bear66 Posted on 16/04/2019 11:55

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The possibility of have a specialised court to expedite this was put forward yesterday.
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boro19 Posted on 16/04/2019 18:47

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Good for renters bad for landlords. As if tenants were all good paid there rent on time, didn't destroy the house it'd all be alright. But then again we have tenants who knock down walls, paint walls black, remove carpets etc. His makes it alot harder to evict them
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Cleveleyssmoggie Posted on 16/04/2019 21:32

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How many of these evictions are actually evictions as opposed to the landlord choosing not to renew a short term let?
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coluka Posted on 16/04/2019 21:37

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Bear66, you dont appreciate the process and cost in action. It exists. Many HAs dont use it private landlords do get wrapped up in litigation where the defendant gets legal aid and the landlords costs mount up.

Fairness is the key to both sides
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