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Funky_Chicken Posted on 14/04/2019 17:03
No cash signings next season for us
 
 
Plummeting season ticket sales, no more parachute payments and a wage bill that far outweighs income [sad] expect a fire sale with our most saleable assets shipped out. We may well be stuck with players like Gestede and Braithwaite who no one else can afford. Absolutely shocking the amount of money the club has wasted on poor quality overpaid signings the past few seasons - dark days ahead [xx(]



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Foggysfplandiet3 Posted on 14/04/2019 17:09

No cash signings next season for us

 
I love an optimist! [:D]
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whatdoyoubench Posted on 14/04/2019 17:10

No cash signings next season for us

 
Do we know how many season tickets have been renewed? Or is the plummeting claim based on the social media echo chamber?
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Funky_Chicken Posted on 14/04/2019 17:11

No cash signings next season for us

 
Thereís no magic money tree [8)]




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Foggysfplandiet3 Posted on 14/04/2019 17:12

No cash signings next season for us

 
Jack Charlton didnít make a single cash signing in 1973-74 did he?

How did we do that season?
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Funky_Chicken Posted on 14/04/2019 17:21

No cash signings next season for us

 
Iím not sure what relevance Charltons side has to our situation now. Even if season ticket sales now are at the same level as this season our wage bill will far exceed income. The only way to balance the books will be through player sales



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Abel_Tasman Posted on 14/04/2019 17:22

No cash signings next season for us

 
To be fair 73-74 season was in a totally different era when it was only the top 1st div clubs spending money. That it isn't the case any more.
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hopesoboro Posted on 14/04/2019 17:29

No cash signings next season for us

 
Gawd, doesn't that dysfunctional chicken ever give up with his clucking chicken schit![xx(]
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JLinardi Posted on 14/04/2019 17:30

No cash signings next season for us

 
I know itís a totally different situation but remember that guy who kept telling us every week after the relegation season that heíd been told we had no money to spend and we were only looking at frees [:D], he wasnít even a troll he genuinely believed the info.
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jeff_potato Posted on 14/04/2019 17:34

No cash signings next season for us

 
I can understand this approach, but given the money we spent in the last year it's just so stupid.

I can't help but imagine the domestic analogy of me dumping a couple of expensive cars on the drive and then insisting we use minimal electricity and eat value line beans every night because times are tight.
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gustavolombardi Posted on 14/04/2019 17:40

No cash signings next season for us

 
or we limp up in the playoffs, pulis leaves and we get a top drawer manager for the PL[^]
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Funky_Chicken Posted on 14/04/2019 17:41

No cash signings next season for us

 
Would you rather I said we have lots of money and weíll be spending at least £30m this summer



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FrozenHorse Posted on 14/04/2019 17:50

No cash signings next season for us

 
We've not done well spending money for 3 years now so this doesn't bother me. Time we tried a different approach.

We might not be excited by the names who come in this Summer, but having been disappointed by the big names brought in in the recent past, I'm past getting excited by signings. It's for kids reall, isn't it?
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JLinardi Posted on 14/04/2019 18:06

No cash signings next season for us

 
It had no relation to what you said, your post just reminded me of it. Anyway does it matter what you say? I think our situation this summer is pretty obvious to everyone.
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BigmetsBoro86 Posted on 14/04/2019 18:10
Edited On: 14/04/2019 18:12
No cash signings next season for us

 
We could have bought Pukki (free) / Dack (700k) / Maupay (1.6mil) / Watkins (3mil) and Che Adams (1.5mil) before they became big money 'names'.

My point being some of the champo's top scorers and most valuable assets cost other clubs feck all.

We could have all of the above for what we paid for Braithwaite and all would be on far less than 42k a week. How much would the above go for now? How much will Braithwaite go for? [sad]

The 'positive' is that if other champo clubs can wheel and deal then we should be able to work in a reduced budget. Also let's be honest a Boro reduced budget is still better than most champo sides.
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Wanderingstar Posted on 14/04/2019 18:17

No cash signings next season for us

 
Do you really know that Braithwaite for certain is on £42k a week, or are you a Tony Pulis spin believer
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Ticker_Tape Posted on 14/04/2019 18:24

No cash signings next season for us

 
In Gibson we trust UTB [pa]
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Derek_Duvall Posted on 14/04/2019 19:16

No cash signings next season for us

 
Fine by me. I didn't see Cardiff or Norwich spending huge amounts.
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HolgateCorner Posted on 14/04/2019 19:18

No cash signings next season for us

 
ĎDark days aheadí - do you need to go and see a doctor?
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Foggysfplandiet3 Posted on 14/04/2019 19:21

No cash signings next season for us

 
"To be fair 73-74 season was in a totally different era when it was only the top 1st div clubs spending money. That it isn't the case any more."

Yeah, I know, and I was winding the Chicken up a bit but if we can get the right manager and one or two key players like Murdoch was then I don't think we need to be as pessimistic as that.

Brucie did a great job with minimal investment in 86-87, after all. The next manager will be key.
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Funky_Chicken Posted on 14/04/2019 20:43

No cash signings next season for us

 
Hhmmm Iím not sure people have grasped the mess weíre in here




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JLinardi Posted on 14/04/2019 20:51

No cash signings next season for us

 
Worst comes to worst we have Randolph, braithwaite, Britt and howson we would get money for, I reckon we could get £25m. Including pulis and Downingís wages that would clear about £1m per month off the wage bill.
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Funky_Chicken Posted on 14/04/2019 21:00

No cash signings next season for us

 
Yep thatís possibly what might happen, although we might struggle to find anyone able to take Braithwaites wages on along with a fairly hefty transfer fee



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JMac1980 Posted on 14/04/2019 21:02

No cash signings next season for us

 
To be fair our signings when we're operating under a tight budget seem to be a lot more successful than when we're not:

Adomah - £1mil
Friend - £100k
Clayton - £1.5mil
Kike - £2.7 mil
Stuani - £3 mil
Ayala - £350k
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JLinardi Posted on 14/04/2019 21:24

No cash signings next season for us

 
By this summer weíd have had braithwaite 2 years, letís say for example we paid £2m down and had £2m worth of promotion bonuses, after spending the last 2 years paying the rest of the fee down we could probably get away with a lower transfer fee for him, around the £5m area. His wages will be a problem though yes.

Part of me thinks why not keep them all here and get a manager who can get the best out of them.
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Funky_Chicken Posted on 14/04/2019 22:03

No cash signings next season for us

 
Braithwaite wonít try thatís the problem, plus a lot of fans have had enough of his attitude which frankly sucks




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r00fie1 Posted on 14/04/2019 22:17

No cash signings next season for us

 
He said he was promised creative football and didnt want to be part of the Pulis plan which he described as "kick and run" football.
Cant blame him for that though Ide want out ASAP to keep playing at International level.
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BoroBen92 Posted on 14/04/2019 22:21

No cash signings next season for us

 
I can and do blame him.

It's his job, not his hobby.
Spitting his dummy out in any other career wouldn't lead to an all expenses paid holiday to Madrid.
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Big_Nothing Posted on 14/04/2019 22:27

No cash signings next season for us

 
The clubs accountants recommended to Bausor and Gibson at the start of last season that if we didn't go up that we startes selling players to balance the books and that if we did go up that we spent minimally. That isn't supposition, or a second hand rumour, it's a fact.

How the appointment of Tony Pulis is connected to that, I don't know, all I can say is what I know. I've been saying it for over a year now. Whether the recommendation was adopted and applied, again I don't know.
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r00fie1 Posted on 14/04/2019 22:30

No cash signings next season for us

 
Fair comment Ben, but he isnt going to turn up on the pitch - only half heartedly. Too late now - he needs to go - if not sold then out on loan so we dont have to pay all his wages. Cut our losses.
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Ticker_Tape Posted on 15/04/2019 08:22

No cash signings next season for us

 
We will be OK with Gibson, hes has always tried to make something of us Funky.

I know he replaced your mate and understand that you weren't happy about it, but thats life, sometimes a new broom sweeps clean.

You have to admit Gibson has been fantastic since he became chairman.
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EpiphanyProudfoot Posted on 15/04/2019 08:26

No cash signings next season for us

 
Admin, serious question.

Why is Funky still allowed to post on here.

Z list clearout required.

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SimonDavidWilliamson Posted on 15/04/2019 08:35

No cash signings next season for us

 
this was in the guardian few weeks back about norwich's astute transfer business which really makes our scouting / management look amateur

maybe its time to start looking back on the continent for bargains

Link: norwich transfers
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Mansize_Rooster Posted on 15/04/2019 08:48

No cash signings next season for us

 
I agree with Funky. If we fail to go up this season then strap yourselves in for another very long stint in the championship.

Thatís all Iím saying

Mansize
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Ticker_Tape Posted on 15/04/2019 08:51

No cash signings next season for us

 
Done all this before, if we play some decent stuff worth watching I will be happy.
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hopesoboro Posted on 15/04/2019 08:51

No cash signings next season for us

 
Our resident acrobat gives his latest heartfelt moans
That's all he's saying.
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Paulroddam7 Posted on 15/04/2019 08:53

No cash signings next season for us

 
Iíd be surprised if ticket sales have an effect on transfer budget to be fair. Itís pennies to a football club.
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Funky_Chicken Posted on 15/04/2019 09:02

No cash signings next season for us

 
It might be pennies to s prem club but itís the main income for a championship club - please enlighten us on this major income supply other than ticket sales




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Mfc79 Posted on 15/04/2019 09:10

No cash signings next season for us

 
I like the idea of building the team around our youngsters, Tav, Fry, Wing ect. The only player Ill be disappointed to see leave is Randolph.
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Ticker_Tape Posted on 15/04/2019 09:12

No cash signings next season for us

 
The Chairman will fund it, he always has ya know.
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Funky_Chicken Posted on 15/04/2019 09:18

No cash signings next season for us

 
He canít keep chucking millions in, and why should he - itís unsustainable the way the club has been running, at least not while itís operating outside of he premier league



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Ticker_Tape Posted on 15/04/2019 09:20

No cash signings next season for us

 
Well if he doesn't he will lose it all, so he will put cash in and we will get promoted eventually.

Trust in the Guardians of Middlesbrough FC[pa]
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FrozenHorse Posted on 15/04/2019 09:28

No cash signings next season for us

 
Iíve always preferred ďbattling BoroĒ over ďbig spending BoroĒ anyway.

Iím glad I followed the club through the TLF/Rav era, but even then throwing around the money that we did made me uncomfortable.

I think our club is at its best when we are the underdog. I guess a fair few fans grew up when we were a fixture in the PL, see that as our ďrightfulĒ place and imagine that something is wrong when we arenít brushing aside the likes of Preston and QPR with contempt. Iíd disagree with that.

Signings donít excite me anymore; whether theyíre freebie Iíve never heard of or a transfer record with a big reputation, my only thought is letís see how you do when games start.


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Foggysfplandiet3 Posted on 15/04/2019 09:48

No cash signings next season for us

 
Braithwaite had an attitude problem long before Pulis arrived.

Shortly after he signed for us and he learned there had been interest in him from the continent, in fact.
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r00fie1 Posted on 15/04/2019 09:50

No cash signings next season for us

 
Frozen[^]
Remember when we bought a lad from Stockport whom no one outside the game had really heard of?
I think we paid too much at the time but he was worth his weight in gold for the crucial goals he scored[fb][fb][fb][fb][fb][smi]
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gnorman1984 Posted on 15/04/2019 10:14

No cash signings next season for us

 
If we get a manager who can get the best out of a decent core of players with years of championship experience already here. Some of the players we already have, have good records at previous clubs just need to be handled well and played in position and given a confidence boost, also some team spirit and enjoyment brought back to the club, make good use of the academy, bring in some hungry young players either on loan or from lower leagues and a few players of quality just past there peak to steady the ship and be leaders on the pitch. With the right manager and some clever signings no reason for the doom and gloom next season. But some big decisions need to be made and them decisions need to be made without room for error. I don't have any idea how to do this and leave that to more knowledgeable people.
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SimonDavidWilliamson Posted on 15/04/2019 10:50

No cash signings next season for us

 
who you mean roofie? alun armstrong? was a tidy player but was seriously injured and never recovered just after promotion IIRC
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redwurzel Posted on 15/04/2019 10:55

No cash signings next season for us

 
Ref Braithwaite he is a regular Danish International forward and as people keep telling me on here he has scored loads of goals in Spain against the top teams, so why will it be a struggle to sell him?
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r00fie1 Posted on 15/04/2019 10:59

No cash signings next season for us

 
[^]His contribution was immense - remember the derision with which the decision to buy him was met.That promotion game V Oxford in 98 stands out for me[smi]
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FrozenHorse Posted on 15/04/2019 11:09

No cash signings next season for us

 
Debut goal vs Sunderland was good too.

Liked him a lot; given that he played a big part in Ipswichís 5th places finish, maybe we should have persevered.
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Ticker_Tape Posted on 15/04/2019 11:10

No cash signings next season for us

 
Is his son at the Boro now?
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Funky_Chicken Posted on 15/04/2019 12:13

No cash signings next season for us

 
Iím all for getting these bargain buys, itís the way forward for the club to target younger players who we can hopefully sell on at a profit in a few years. What we need is the people behind the scenes who can identify them and get them here, which we donít seem to have at the moment (recruitment setup)



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FrozenHorse Posted on 15/04/2019 12:19

No cash signings next season for us

 
Fair comment. However Iíd agree with JMacís earlier point that the best recruitment weíve done in recent times has been on a shoestring budget.

It hasnít worked when weíve had big money to spend.
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The_same_as_before Posted on 15/04/2019 12:21

No cash signings next season for us

 
I think there will be a spend circa £20m plus any from sales.
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Indeedido Posted on 15/04/2019 12:22

No cash signings next season for us

 
I respect your view FrozenHorse, but just disagree.
I don't like it best when we are just a plucky underdog, we can be so much more than that and I do get excited by signings.

I don't want us to waste money like Monk and pulis have on awful signings and silly contracts, but there is a happy medium.
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Ticker_Tape Posted on 15/04/2019 13:16

No cash signings next season for us

 
We`ve wasted plenty of money on what we consider bargains, its all a bit hit and miss signing players.

Its a bit of an odd thought to think we will all of a sudden develop a system were we buy really great players for buttons[:D]
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Tacker Posted on 15/04/2019 16:24

No cash signings next season for us

 
"maybe its time to start looking back on the continent for bargains"

Like a Carlos de Pena or Kike Sola maybe??

The problem we've had at this club for seasons is that the management allegedly do not utilise the scouting team properly and often go off the back of recommendations through the hierachy. On numerious occasions in the previous 18 months, players have been identified through the scouts who have not been acknowledged by Gibson, Bauser or Pulis and have gone on to other teams and being a huge success.

The scouts get a hard time in the press which I find the majority of the time is out of order.

Overall, we could have had Maupay, Pukki, Abrahams or Bolasie here... we still would have been in the same situation as the manager doesn't maximise their potential.
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