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SmashTheLeague Posted on 15/03/2019 17:19
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Good documentary for any of you interested on the case. Can’t imagine what it would be like to have a child abducted but I still can’t be convinced that the parents aren’t behind this. If they weren’t respectable people they would have been punished years ago.
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billyred Posted on 15/03/2019 18:22

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when is this available on netflix ?
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HolgateSp1kes Posted on 15/03/2019 18:27

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As of 8am this morning.
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Spacedak79 Posted on 15/03/2019 18:45

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Parents accidentally killed her and covered it up.
I have absolutely no doubt [|)]
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hicktonpen10 Posted on 15/03/2019 18:55

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Evidence please.
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Sortie Posted on 15/03/2019 19:08

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I read the family were against the film as it may hinder the search.
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GazC_MFC Posted on 15/03/2019 19:17

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One thing I find peculiar is why they are still together

The fact they went for dinner and out the kids under drugs, one will have been more influential than the other and blame would have torn them apart. Always happen but not here
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BigmetsBoro86 Posted on 15/03/2019 21:32

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I've not watched it yet. It will probably really annoy me as everything to do with this case does.

I have read it doesn't really add anything. It's not controversial or add any new theorys it just tells the story ad it happened. It's not like making a murder.

The mccanns have nothing to do with it and not endorsing anything in it.
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JLinardi Posted on 15/03/2019 23:34

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Read the book the Portuguese copper did
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Obergruppenfuhrer Posted on 16/03/2019 06:41

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The only missing kid thats ever existed, the media coverage has convinced everyone this little girl and family are more important than anybody elses, utterly bored XXXXXXless with it, i understand she was special to them, but do you really think they give a XXXXXX about somebody elses kids
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KingOfTheTribes Posted on 16/03/2019 07:08

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Having watched all of the Netflix doc yesterday I now think the parents didn't do it.
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Paulroddam7 Posted on 16/03/2019 07:19

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They should have been locked up whether they did it or not.
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flipside Posted on 16/03/2019 08:07

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"I read the family were against the film as it may hinder the search."

In my view this documentary was nothing more than a propaganda piece for the McCann's. There were so many holes in the documentary it's frightening.
The first three episodes don’t discuss any evidence; it is just dramatic storytelling to get you to like the Mccanns.
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Pottomed Posted on 16/03/2019 08:18

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Linardi,must of been a great book
So good you can’t remember the author
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Konrad_the_Barbarian Posted on 16/03/2019 10:03

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I'm amazed that the police haven't interviewed some of the posters on here as they clearly know more about what happened than the police do [rle]

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Doppelganger Posted on 20/03/2019 12:22

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Interesting documentary.
The McCann's do come across as cold unlikable people, but maybe that is because they are professional people.
Innocent until proven guilty though, and although I think guilty of being negligent, it is very unlikely they had anything to do with their daughter's disappearance.
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Derek_Duvall Posted on 20/03/2019 12:27

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It's the cadaver dogs that got me. You could see them in the bedroom and especially near the wardrobe doing their thing when they sense a body.

And it's always made me wonder why Kate said 'They've taken Madeleine' and not, simply 'She's not in her bed or something'.
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newusername Posted on 20/03/2019 12:39

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Is it negligent to let a child sleep out of sight?

For those that say they were complicit & covered it up, can you provide a suitable sequence of events?

I understand the confirmed timeline is:
- Kid last seen alive, by an independent witness, 5:30pm.
- Parents arrive at dinner at 8:30pm
- Dad checks room at 9pm
- Mum checks room at 10pm
- Alarm raised with hotel at 10:10pm
- Police called at 10:30pm
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coluka Posted on 20/03/2019 12:47

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Whilst clearly the parents acted irresponsibly, they have already paid a very heavy price, non higher than poor Madeleine herself though, whatever fate befell her.

I really do not understand how anyone can think the parents were involved in some way other than through the negligence of leaving the children alone and ‘medicated’.

Many years have past, but lets hope one day this mystery is solved for all concerned, not least Madeleine herself.
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Doppelganger Posted on 20/03/2019 12:51

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Leaving young kids alone is madness imo. It doesn't matter if you are 5 minutes away or on holiday. There is no excuse. The fact they needed to check on the kids every 20 mins or so to make sure they were OK tells you everything you need to know.
It would have been very easy for someone(s) to watch the adults and work out their routine.

The Dogs can not be trusted. It's has simply as that. People have put far too much weight on this "evidence".

The chief of police in Portugal has been completely discredited. Some of the conspiracy stuff he comes out with is just laughable.

The people going door to door to raise money for an "orphanage" I think that was quite revealing. Especially so when the Mother found one of them in her house near her child (if she is to believed). It does seem that an organised gang was working in the area.
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Derek_Duvall Posted on 20/03/2019 12:53

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The dogs certainly CAN be trusted.
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Doppelganger Posted on 20/03/2019 13:09
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How can they? They are dogs. We don't know how well they have been trained.
And they pick up all sorts of things. Picking DNA/Scent in a hotel room that hundreds of people have stayed in or a hire car that hundreds of people have hired is not proof.
And as pointed out the hire car was hired 25 days after Maddie went missing.
The McCann's would have to be very clever to put her body in the trunk with all the press following their every move.

If they are innocent, which I believe they are, they have suffered enough. Maddie is gone, the press published horrible lies about them, the police tried to frame them (and a couple of other suspects), and they have been trolled for over 10 years.
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T1ffy Posted on 20/03/2019 13:13

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No they can't which is why it's never used in court.

I don't get how they could have done it given the timeline of events. It would also mean the full party that were on holiday with them were also in on it. They were followed by journalists for a long time since they police initially got called.

It's an awful situation & hope she's found safe & well one day.
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lufbra_boro Posted on 20/03/2019 13:19
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The issue of 'negligence' has never really been addressed directly in the mainstream media. I remember at the time Trevor McDonald did a 30 minute programme about the investigation. I also remember the CEO from one of the main children's charities in the UK commenting that this is common practice - parents leaving children on an evening while on holiday. This person defended the parents decision making. The timing to critique may have been insensitive - but my view is, there is a class issue inn this case. While the case is awash with spurious and unfounded claims, allegations and opinions - there are two base facts:

1) these parents neglected their children
2) one is now missing

While the parents have done everything they probably feel they could have to find their daughter. They appear immune to the criticism of neglect.

The coincidence for me is - I worked in that area in Leicestershire in child position. I had a case when a parent went on holiday and left the children with a family member. The children were put at risk and harmed. The children are subject to child protection as a result. Quite right to. The family lived in a deprived area. The scrutiny is so different. In the end these children ended up in foster care. Again this was the right decision. Both children were not missing presumed dead.

Surely the greatest degree of negligence is for a child in your care to be presumed dead. Whatever the outcome - those parents should be accountable. What is more - he works in a position of trust as a Cardiologist and she was a GP. How can they work in a position that may require safeguarding comment - when they put their own children at such risk. Also considering - this wasn't a one off. They did this every night of the holiday. Notwithstanding the extreme outcome in this case. One of the children could have woken upset or sick - how scared would a young child have been with no parent or adult in the apartment. I find the arrogance and lack of contrition to this neglect unpalatable to be honest. I often see the parents at the local leisure centre with the twins - it's quite chilling. But they probably says more about me than them.
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Vena Posted on 20/03/2019 13:19

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I never really took an interest in the case as it was happening (i have a daughter similar age at the time, it was too much to raw to read)

I did watch the documentary recently, so any evidence presented was pretty much the first time i'd heard it.

It seems clear to me they didn't do it, you can argue about negligence and may have a point but its a massive leap to covering up a death.
If they'd done it they'd have let the whole thing die down to next weeks chip paper, its the parents driving the interest and i don't buy that they are doing that as their cover or for financial reasons.

Id say their own own actions haven't helped, using their contacts to heap political pressure on the Portuguese police looks like its put them under pressure to find an answer and the easiest and best outcome was 'the parents did it', i'd not be surprised if there have been attempts to plant evidence and stitch them up.

The heat of the coverage has meant even if it was a steal to order for some childless couple (best case scenario), she was too hot and they would be unable to take her.

The reward money that I am assuming is up for her return would probably mean if anyone has had the chance to turn over they would have found a way.

So sad how this could happen and then the scum that is the British media think they can print what they like, disgraceful.

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cincinnati_reds Posted on 20/03/2019 14:34

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The documentary leads me to think they are not involved in her disappearance. Well they are in terms of leaving their kids alone of course.

That said, the whole case seems a bit of a mess. I used to think the dog thing was pretty damning, but the documentary did give good explanations of why the results could show as they did. Besides, with the media following their every move, how on earth were they going to transport a dead body in a car they rented weeks later?

Then again, they seem to have a large amount of investment from rich people helping them. You never know if they're backing this documentary to show them to be innocent.

If she was abducted as we think, then i think they were being watched for a good few days at least.
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deganya Posted on 20/03/2019 15:02

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I don't think the parents did it.

The question is why is the government spending so much money on this case, when they don't for others.
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EpiphanyProudfoot Posted on 20/03/2019 15:21

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I have studied this case, from both sides.

Baffling.

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deganya Posted on 20/03/2019 16:08

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£11,000000 spent on the McCann case.

Extraordinary and disproportionate, and we have to ask why?
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Steer Posted on 20/03/2019 16:40

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"While the parents have done everything they probably feel they could have to find their daughter. They appear immune to the criticism of neglect. "

Nearly spat my tea out when I read that. Honestly, the parents I am sure will blame themselves every day for the rest of their live. As indeed do the majority (?) of the people on social media and internet forums etc.
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Parno Posted on 20/03/2019 16:58

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I struggled to watch the documentary after the first episode. It was very clear it was pro-McCann after they cut short the clip of Gerry on the airport bus. The missed out the bit where he says 'I'm not here to f***ing enjoy myself". (Youtube it)
They didn't mention Kate changing her statement multiple times.
They didn't mentioned the witness statements from the other families on holiday, particularly the statement from Gasper regarding Mr Payne and Mr McCann. (Google 'Gasper Statement')
They glossed over the dog findings.
They didn't mentioned Gerry's CAT file (sex offenders).

I have no idea what happened, but I am 99% certain she wasn't abducted.

For an unbiased view, read the police files yourselves, they are available for free on the internet.

For the anti-McCann side (which is very thought provoking) watch the Richard D Hall videos on YouTube.
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Calculus Posted on 20/03/2019 17:30

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Independent research study was undertaken recently on Cadaver dogs. It was shown that they were inaccurate approx 60 - 70% of the time.

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sambaDTR Posted on 20/03/2019 17:36

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Anybody remember going to Butlins Filey where they used to have a “Baby crying” service?

Link: Babycrying
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borofan402 Posted on 20/03/2019 17:38

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The dogs certainly can be trusted.
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Holgatemax Posted on 20/03/2019 17:46

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Watched all the episodes on Netflix and I was convinced a few episodes in the parents were involved. By the end my mind had changed with the DNA results from the dogs indications. Also how would 7 people in the group collude.
This is an extreme left upsetting case and any parents nightmare. I often think of the missing lad Ben in Kos.
The parents in Madelin’s case were however neglectful in leaving three young children alone, ignoring the baby sitting/ crèche service.
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etmfc Posted on 20/03/2019 19:25

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I think they are 100% innocent of murdering their child.As for leaving them they probably considered the creche but how do you carry 3 sleeping children back to your apartment? they wrongly thought checking on them would be OK. I think as a group 1 person did the checking on all the children (a friend checked at 9.30pm)but will have just listened out for any crying.Abductors can take children even if the parents are asleep in the next room. I don't believe the parents drugged the children Calpol may have been given but the twins were very young and probably teething Calpol isn't a sedative and dosen't make you drowsy. I found it strange that Madeline was reported to be very drowsy when collected from the playgroup. I think she was abducted and hopefully be returned home one day. Tragic story.
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EpiphanyProudfoot Posted on 20/03/2019 22:01

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Channel 4 documentary a few years back concluded that the room was virtually impossible to break into.

(No sign of entry or a struggle)
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hielo Posted on 20/03/2019 22:06

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Not one piece of credible evidence implicates the parents in any wrong doing.

Yes they left the kids asleep 100 yards away whilst they dined but that doesnt alter the fact that someone probably entered the apartment and abducted poor Madeleine.

What the parents have had to endure at the hands of the gutter press and incompetant Portuguese Police is nothing short of disgusting.

Not likely but I do hope she is found and is re-united with her family.
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Senor_Chester Posted on 20/03/2019 23:51

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"Anybody remember going to Butlins Filey where they used to have a “Baby crying” service?"


They were still doing that until the early 90's [:O]
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bblf Posted on 20/03/2019 23:59

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Watched the first episode. I have always thought the parents knew more than they will say. I think this is due to my feelings about them going out for food and drink after allegedly giving the children something to help them sleep
We took my son abroad on holiday about 3 times a year , and from aged 3 when we started going abroad with him until he was 16 yrs old he was never out of our sight.It wasnt a hardship in fact it helped make the holiday having him with us all the time.
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newusername Posted on 21/03/2019 00:27

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"... until he was 16 yrs old he was never out of our sight."

"I see you are having a XXXXXX son. Nice one".

Totally normal and certainly not weird in the slightest.
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bblf Posted on 21/03/2019 09:24

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"I see you are having a XXXXXX son. Nice one

What does that even mean.?

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schemer Posted on 21/03/2019 09:35

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What about the cadaver dogs?
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EpiphanyProudfoot Posted on 21/03/2019 09:51

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'What about the cadaver dogs?'

Whilst I accept it casts a suspicious light on the parents it still doesn't prove they have committed a crime.

PS Those dogs are astonishing.
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newusername Posted on 21/03/2019 09:53

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Observing your son for 24 hours a day until he's 16, whatever floats your boat.
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TheFair86 Posted on 21/03/2019 09:55

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Everything is 50/50. I personally think they know a bit more than they've let on but almost all of the evidence is either circumstantial or can be explained away, but there's just so much of it.

For example if you watch the full videos of the cadaver dogs on the apartment and the car search, the handlers spent ages pointing and repointing at the mccans car and the areas of interest. He says they're trained to follow his finger but he doesn't do this in all areas - these searches are supposed to be blind apparently rather than led. There are studies out there around dog handler case bias, and the fact that the mccann's car had about 10 'FIND MADDIE' stickers all over it doesn't take a genius to know who's car that was.

That said these two dogs have a very high success rate (I've seen its apparently 100%?) but again - it can all be explained away, plus its a rental car & rental apartment so cross contamination is very easy. What if the police had been to a crime scene and then walked around the apartment?
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etmfc Posted on 21/03/2019 10:28

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In the video the dogs initially went around the area of 1 the bed and sofa and the other the car and made no indication, both dogs were called back to their area of interest and only then showed interest in that area. Not convincing at all. The DNA evidence was very weak considering the family will have similar DNA.
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schemer Posted on 21/03/2019 10:43

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Lots of things don't add up for me.

The thousands of miles in a matter of days on the McCann's hire car

Washing 'cuddle cat'

Saying the shutters were jemmied open but then going back on that when it was proven that it couldn't possibly be true

The Cadaver dogs picking up scents in 5A and hire car

Gerry's body language

Laughing and smiling only 5 days after her death

Not going out looking for her on the night of her disappearance

The implications of the Gaspar statements

The 48 unanswered questions

The photofits looking very much like Gerry

Shouting 'they've taken her' - who is they?

The Priest admitting to them confessing something to him

Flying off around the world without their twins - leaving them where their daughter had been 'abducted' after her 'abduction

This is just a small snapshot- there's more.

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The_same_as_before Posted on 21/03/2019 11:01

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Without being judgemental I am sure that 95% of parents would never leave small children alone.

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TheFair86 Posted on 21/03/2019 11:07

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I would have said that before but having seen how close it was in the documentary, I think previously I always assumed they were at a restaurant a few streets away not 100 yards in the same complex.

When I think back to family holidays we had as a kid our parents would regularly leave us unattended in the hotel room, but it was a different time. We weren’t that young mind (3 brothers different ages) but still too young by today’s standards, in foreign lands.

That said there wasn’t hotel operated chreche services either.
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The1WhoKnows Posted on 21/03/2019 11:14

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They are bang to rights,made an absolute fortune off the back of her 'disappearance'

A disgusting,reprehensible couple.
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etmfc Posted on 21/03/2019 11:21

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I'm sure Kates lawyer will have told her not to answer any questions. I don't know but i can't imagine a priest would say she has confessed something, the Portuguese local priest seemed fond of Gerry and Kate. IMO Thousands of miles in the car, they were followed everywhere by the worlds media.
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The_same_as_before Posted on 21/03/2019 11:26

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Et have you ever let small children on their own?
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etmfc Posted on 21/03/2019 11:43

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No never but leaving them in an apartment doesn't mean they had anything to do with her disappearance.
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The_same_as_before Posted on 21/03/2019 11:51

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I would argue that it was a risk too far. These are doctors who deal in risk every day, they decided that being almost 100 yards away from their children was a risk worth taking to enjoy a child free dinner.

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etmfc Posted on 21/03/2019 12:03

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Agreed, they are guilty of leaving them alone and have to live with that decision and it's tragic consequences.
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Matt Posted on 21/03/2019 12:05

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After watching the documentary, I don't think they had anything to do with it beyond leaving their kids unattended.

In order of possibility, I would say:
- She was abducted
- They accidentally killed her and covered it up
- Cold blooded murder (does anyone actually think this?!)

If they accidentally killed her, they did an excellent job in a very unexpected and stressful situation - without alerting any of their friends in the time they spent in the restaurant together. Also successfully disposing of the body whilst still attending dinner and having no time alone together to plan and plot.

If they wanted to kill her (?!), why would they put themselves in a strange place to do it?
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The_same_as_before Posted on 21/03/2019 12:08

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My Tummy says they know what happened
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etmfc Posted on 21/03/2019 12:13

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What does your tummy say happened?.
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Tacker Posted on 21/03/2019 12:17

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""Anybody remember going to Butlins Filey where they used to have a “Baby crying” service?""

How bizarre, I was on a course yesterday when one of the group mentioned this off the back of a discussion about the documentary. He said if nobody responded to the first sign they would call it over the tannoy, much to the annoyance of the crowd partaking in that evenings bingo [:D].

Looking back, it makes you wonder what measures were put in place to choose the warden who walked around all of the chalets.
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