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Uncle_Marbles Posted on 15/03/2019 13:54
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Suffered a fatal injury during first race. Had a quick re hooving at the starting post aswell
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Nosmo-King Posted on 15/03/2019 13:57

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And it was that leg that was plated pre race. Tragic.
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uncle_rico Posted on 15/03/2019 14:04

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The BHA have just said that they're not linked and it was just a freak catastrophic accident. Very sad.

Was well backed too.
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RichyNotSoRich Posted on 15/03/2019 14:05
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Just before we all get hysterical l the re plating of the shoe had fu. Ck all to do with the injury in what you where implying
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CuvsteR81 Posted on 15/03/2019 14:06

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The punter who whacked 10k on it live on telly minutes before it lost its shoe must be a little upset aswell!
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BreakTheWallsDown Posted on 15/03/2019 14:09

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'The punter who whacked 10k on it live on telly minutes before it lost its shoe must be a little upset aswell!'

Yeah, forget about the trainer/jockey/owner.. Spare a thought for the guy who backed it and lost money [rle]
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RichyNotSoRich Posted on 15/03/2019 14:15

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My thoughts break itís knocked me sick that sat watching it getting re hooked looking cool as you like 5 mins later itís dead[sad][sad][sad]
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uncle_rico Posted on 15/03/2019 14:53

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I know race horses often get put down for a broken leg, but why? Can they not recover? I don't mean to race again as such, but surely they could go to stud, or just live a happy life trotting round a field eating grass?
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Block21 Posted on 15/03/2019 14:58

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I was just wondering that myself Rico
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Nosmo-King Posted on 15/03/2019 15:02
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Ricky, no one getting hysterical, no one saying that the plating had any connection in the poor horses demise. Just stating the irony - nothing more nothing less
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fools_gold Posted on 15/03/2019 15:15

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uncle_rico

A fracture obviously requires to be set and immobilised as you would in a human but it is virtually impossible to do this in a horse as they develop pnuemonia and will die a much slower death. There have been some cases where they have tried with different fractures like St Nicholas's Abbey which was ultimately unsuccessful but lower leg fractures are impossible to deal with. That's why a horse suffering such an injury is swiftly put down.
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RichyNotSoRich Posted on 15/03/2019 15:36

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Nosmo so why mention the replating it had no revelence whatsoever
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Nosmo-King Posted on 15/03/2019 15:44

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It was a statement of fact, something that happened pre race so sorry if this was something you took exception to
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RichyNotSoRich Posted on 15/03/2019 15:46

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It was a statement of fact that had revelance to the outcome [:o)][:o)][:o)]
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CuvsteR81 Posted on 15/03/2019 16:20

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Yeah, forget about the trainer/jockey/owner.. Spare a thought for the guy who backed it and lost money.

I dont feel sorry at all for the multi millionaire owners / jockey and trainers!
They know the sport and take the rough with the smooth.

It was sad to watch as I think we all agree, 1 minute it's cool as chips getting a new shoe fitted then a few fences later it's dead. Not good to see at all.


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Pottomed Posted on 15/03/2019 16:21

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Another horse died there today.
Just Google horses dying at UK races and see what a cruel sport this is
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borobuddah Posted on 15/03/2019 18:14

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Along with 19 other Boro fans I am part of a syndicate which has a horse, donít think any of us are multi- millionaires though
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hielo Posted on 15/03/2019 18:26

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This may be a stupid question [:I] but can a horse survive having the injured leg amputated like you see some dogs can?
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Lurcher Posted on 15/03/2019 18:29

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Just ban it, one horse dying is one too many, if you want to bet you can do it on the flat or on a hundred different sports.
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BessemerConvertor Posted on 15/03/2019 20:14

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Lurcher, similar injuries occur in flat races too. They also occur when horses are living a completely natural life in fields. It is however a fact that horses' are physically stressed when racing and naturally more injuries occur in such circumstances.
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boro19 Posted on 15/03/2019 20:33

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I really do feel sorry for horse in racing. As the horse should of been removed from the race when it shoe fell off as they has to be some link to it's leg breaking on the same foot that was reshoed.
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LetsGoJoe Posted on 15/03/2019 21:07

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The thing is its all to do with fence racing. You dont have to ban horse racing just the jumps. Horses actually love to race and cant see why flat racing only would be such a big deal. There are a variety different distances that require different tactics and planning so its not totally boring. Be interesting to see how the first flat grand national would pan out.
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SmoggyUDT82 Posted on 15/03/2019 21:18

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LetsGoJoe, the same injuries happen on flat racing as well, I've seen horses on the flat break legs etc so if you thinking banning jumps is the answer you are completely wrong.
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Jonny_Rondos_Disco_pants Posted on 15/03/2019 21:26

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The re-shoeing was nothing to do with his leg breaking
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LetsGoJoe Posted on 15/03/2019 21:35

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Smoggy - see if you can get some stats on how many horses have died over jumps compared to on flats. I would imagine its probably 95% over jumps and 5% flats.

Im pretty sure banning jumps would reduce the number of deaths considerably.
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SmoggyUDT82 Posted on 15/03/2019 22:07

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It's not 95% I know that, it's not hard to find the figure if you look so I don't need to say what it is.

The ridiculous comment about banning fences would reduce deaths is like saying take cars off the road and we'd see less road deaths - nonsense comment
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hielo Posted on 15/03/2019 22:23

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"The ridiculous comment about banning fences would reduce deaths is like saying take cars off the road and we'd see less road deaths - nonsense comment"

No it really isnt. Its like saying wearing seat belts would reduce road deaths.
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BessemerConvertor Posted on 15/03/2019 22:48
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Boro 19 - Sir Erec was re-shod but why would that contribute to its misfortune? The vast majority of horses that are re-shod at he start suffer no ill effects.
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LeeTublin Posted on 16/03/2019 01:07

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Isnt Pottomed a cheery chap ? [rle]
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JLinardi Posted on 16/03/2019 01:17

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Why is removing jumps such a ridiculous idea? What do they add that is so great?
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Pottomed Posted on 16/03/2019 07:55

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Lee tub so pretending that it doesnít happen is a better option?
Maybe thatís whatís wrong with your life[;)]
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Pottomed Posted on 16/03/2019 08:00

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Not sure how to post a link but the site below lists them all, not updated with Cheltenham yet.
The BHA issued a writ to try and ban this site

https://www.horsedeathwatch.com/
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Torino Posted on 17/03/2019 15:55
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About 23% of all horse deaths happen in flat racing (going off 2017 figures)

As said above, any horse can break its leg just going about its day to day life in a field, but thereís no denying that making them jump fences adds another risk that non racing and dressage horses donít face.
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coluka Posted on 17/03/2019 17:43

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If racing did not exist, then these horses would not be bred and therefore never born. They have a life, they are natural jumpers. They do it in fields anyway without jockeys on board.

There is risk in everything. Lots of animals are born and savaged by other animals in the wild, dying a horrible painful death, but thats just life and accepted eh
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Starbuck Posted on 17/03/2019 18:52

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Take the Jockeys off them
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borobuddah Posted on 17/03/2019 18:57

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Could have been a heart attack ?
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coluka Posted on 17/03/2019 19:02

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It broke its leg
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emerson_ave Posted on 17/03/2019 19:44

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'Why is removing jumps such a ridiculous idea? What do they add that is so great?'

I was at Cheltenham on Friday. I didn't know that Sir Erec had been put down until reading this now. Leaving aside the animal welfare issues being an occasional racing fan I can say that National Hunt racing is more exciting than the Flat. I have no doubt that the majority of those involved love their horses and while recognising the risks they do everything they can to minimise them. As has been pointed out race horses wouldn't exist without horse racing. When the race was delayed for reshoeing. I did ask the queson to those near me as to whether it was always the case that a race would be delayed in such circumstances. It seems unfair to the rest of the horses and jockeys to keep them hanging about. Would they have waited if it had been a 500/1 outsider as opposed to an even money favourite.
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coluka Posted on 17/03/2019 20:24
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Yes they would have waited for any horse to be re-shod emerson. They have highly trained specialist vets watching over the horses before they set off racing looking for anything untoward.
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BessemerConvertor Posted on 17/03/2019 21:28

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Normally the trainer specifies whether a horse should be re-shod or withdrawn if it "spreads a plate" or loses a shoe before the start of a race. This stipulation is overridden if the veterinary staff at the start consider the horse to be un-sound. It is not very unusual for horses to lose a plate in running and still win with no long term ill effects. It is also the case that some trainers prefer to run their horses without hind shoes to minimise the risk of injury via over-reach i.e. the hind hooves hitting the back of the front legs when galloping.

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