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Abel_Tasman Posted on 15/03/2019 06:13
Edited On: 15/03/2019 06:18New Zealand Terrorist Attacks on Mosques
 
 
Terrible news coming out of Christchurch of planned attacks. At keasr 27 killed. The attacks were streamed live on facebook planned and carried out by at least 3 people. Far right seem to be involved. And possible Australian involvement. Sick world. NZ is such a welcoming safe country and then this happens.
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CardiffDaffs Posted on 15/03/2019 06:34

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40 confirmed killed!

Commiserations to the families who have lost their loved ones.
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Jostler Posted on 15/03/2019 06:57

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Awful news, thoughts with all those who are caught up in this.
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Borocelt Posted on 15/03/2019 07:11

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Sick. We live in worrying times.
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Rayman Posted on 15/03/2019 07:18

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An anti-immigrant group.

These Antipodean terrorists have a fine sense of irony.
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EI_Owen Posted on 15/03/2019 07:22

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This is absolutely shocking news, my sympathies are with all involved, itís tragic and impossible to understand.

Cowardly terrorists who are happy to open fire on innocent people for no reason other than their extreme right wing views, itís difficult to comprehend and Iím in tears just listening to the news.

What right do these hideous people have to take away the lives of innocents? There is no political reason, no recourse to anything that has ever happened to the country of New Zealand (not that that would be justifiable) itís pure Iíll informed hatred from absolute scum.
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TheFair86 Posted on 15/03/2019 07:47

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The worst part is this evil get live streamed
The whole thing on Facebook
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xxlshirts_fit_all Posted on 15/03/2019 08:04

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Bangladeshi cricket team turned up at one mosque just after attacks began...

Wonder if they were a target, the third test is cancelled...

[:O]
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WeeGord Posted on 15/03/2019 08:30

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This despicable terrorist attack should be called out by all regardless of nationality, religion etc.

Cold blooded callous slaughter, that's what it is. Truly sickening.
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kiwiboro Posted on 15/03/2019 08:43

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the whole nation is shocked; can't define what the motivation was, however sick the attackers minds are. What did they hope to achieve???
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kiwiboro Posted on 15/03/2019 08:43

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the whole nation is shocked; can't define what the motivation was, however sick the attackers minds are. What did they hope to achieve???
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CardiffDaffs Posted on 15/03/2019 08:47

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I think that every time innocent and vulnerable people are killed around the world.

People motivated by extremism in all its forms to hurt innocents are pure evil.
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Borocelt Posted on 15/03/2019 08:56

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One of them has put their little manifesto of hate online, and live streamed the thing. Unfortunately, I think their motivation is quite clear.
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autism_awareness Posted on 15/03/2019 08:59

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They mentioned on sky news about the attackers 72 page manifesto which notably states: "We will never allow them to take our lands."

Sky news also reported that the attack was planned two years in advance.
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jam69 Posted on 15/03/2019 09:13

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must be a proud day for those who peddle hatred on a daily basis
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billyzin Posted on 15/03/2019 09:21

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I'm amazed something similar hasn't happened here yet.

The evils that extremism can engender.
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foomanboro Posted on 15/03/2019 09:26

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They are motivated to instigate a race war pure and simple. Psychopaths wanting see the world burn.
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CasinoGrande Posted on 15/03/2019 09:28

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"I'm amazed something similar hasn't happened here yet"

It has 7/7

I would never ever have expected something like this happening in NZ. Sad sad day.
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lapennabianca Posted on 15/03/2019 09:37

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"I'm amazed something similar hasn't happened here yet."

Thankfully we don't have easy access to guns. Darren Osborne killed a man outside Finsbury Park mosque and wished to kill many more.

This incident is absolutely sickening. Christchurch is a great place and the people are friendly and funny. First the earthquake, now this. [|)]
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Indeedido Posted on 15/03/2019 09:41

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If it can happen in NZ, it can happen anywhere. There are sadly, sick people everywhere it would appear.
RIP all those murdered and condolences to all those affected.
Christchurch has had enough tragedy before this evil.
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Borocelt Posted on 15/03/2019 09:45

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Not to mention we had an MP murdered by a far right lunatic not that long ago as well.

We're in no better a position, i'm afraid. We need to start taking this threat very seriously, including tackling those who give lunatics a platform to peddle hate.
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swordtrombonefish Posted on 15/03/2019 09:45

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Horrible, evil, cowardly, scum [|)]

RIP to those lost

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foomanboro Posted on 15/03/2019 10:06

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This is why people like Tommy Robinson and his ilk should never be given a platform. They inspire nutters like this who could do something similar here.

There is a difference between hate speech and free speech that people forget when people defend him his inciting behaviour.
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borobuddah Posted on 15/03/2019 10:38

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Ironically the murderers are acting out the ISIS plan, to divide communities on race and religious lines and create inter communal violence

Peace to those suffering
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Emmersons_BrazillianDong Posted on 15/03/2019 10:43

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Right wing extremism on the rise. Worrying times.
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borolad01642 Posted on 15/03/2019 10:47

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Ive just seen the FB video...... [|)][xx(]
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Muttley Posted on 15/03/2019 11:17

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Utterly appalling, heart breaking stuff. I would ask anyone that has seen the Helmet Cam video on Facebook or elsewhere to report it to the hosting company to get it taken down. I have absolutely no wish to see it and it has no place circulating and spreading further hate (which is no doubt the intention of the perpetrator).

I agree with Foomanboro here "This is why people like Tommy Robinson and his ilk should never be given a platform."

Hate speech is NEVER compatible with free speech.

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jam69 Posted on 15/03/2019 11:44

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Borobudda it's the right wing way to divide, regardless of wether it's ISIS or the far right. sad times
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cincinnati_reds Posted on 15/03/2019 12:27
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"This is why people like Tommy Robinson and his ilk should never be given a platform"

Fair point if you're also willing to back the closing down certain Mosques like the one that inspired the MEN Arena terrorist guy and the Madrasas here that bring in speakers that literally call for terrorism. Nothing seems to get done about that either.

That's not to take a side in the matter, i think we need to try to get a grip on anyone that could be inspiring people to go out and commit acts of violence, no matter what religion or movement they follow.

That said, i doubt we can ever prevent horrific things like what happened in NZ earlier or people strapping a bomb to themselves in the name of religion. i think these people must be out of their minds already to take it to those extremes and maybe it was always a matter of time before they commit some awful crime. I think 99.999% of people could follow a guy like Tommy Robinson or a guy like Anjem Choudary and not go out and harm anybody, but they can certainly trigger a lunatic too.
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jimstewart Posted on 15/03/2019 12:59

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RIP. Iíve seen the video and really wish I hadnít. Evil beyond words.
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foomanboro Posted on 15/03/2019 13:00
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I agree Cincinnati, hate speech that incites violence of all kinds from all religions and ethnicities should be shut down and not given a platform. It only takes 0.001% of lunatics to wreck lives. Letís not give them an inch.
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kuepper Posted on 15/03/2019 13:07

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100s watched it live on facebook egging the killer on...........
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foomanboro Posted on 15/03/2019 13:09

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If thatís so, they should be prosecuted as accomplices to the murder of those poor people.
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Borocelt Posted on 15/03/2019 13:21
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I don't quite get the response of 'well you have to close the mosques with radical preachers then' to things like this.

As though those who think Robinson and his ilk shouldn't have a platform, simultaneously think Anjem Choudhury and his ilk are onen't on the same? On the absolute contrary, they *are* one and the same. Hate preachers.

I'm not sure if it's attempted deflection away from an uncomfortable conversation about hard right radicalisation, but it's not really the point right now, and literally *no one* is saying that people preaching hateful, militant views in a mosque, and egging on terrorism is ok. I don't really know why anyone would bring it up when no one has defended it.
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Mfc79 Posted on 15/03/2019 14:53

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A very sad day. RIP to those caught up in this madness. Thoughts to the families and friends of the victims.
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fools_gold Posted on 15/03/2019 15:10

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Good God who is this f*cking clown?! Tommy Robinson minus the basic intelligence to keep his mouth shut? Cant believe he's not a fellow traveller of the monster who did this.

Link: Link
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LetsGoJoe Posted on 15/03/2019 19:57

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They have confirmed that the words 'for Rotherham' were written on on of his ammo magazines. Thats unreal. Apparently he has ties to the UK.

world is totally imploding.
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bungydinsdale Posted on 15/03/2019 22:58

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NZ is in mourning today. My son knew one of the men killed in the attack and at least one more was from the town we live in. NZ is so small (population wise) that the normal 6 degrees of separation is only 2 here so everybody will be affected or know someone directly affected. It's even more so among the Muslim community.
One of my colleagues who is Muslim knew several of the dead, including one who was his Imam at his school in Fiji. My colleague had also prayed at the Masjid Al Noor mosque that was targeted.
I was at the growers market in town today and it's normally a bustling, lively place, but there was just a sort of gloom that hung over it today, despite the glorious sunshine.
Just a feeling of sadness.
I went to our local place of worship for our Muslim community (it's not a mosque, but a cultural centre before anybody gets pedantic) and people there are utterly devastated.
Love and peace to all and don't let ignorance, intolerance and bigotry win.
I've lived here for 30 years and never thought I'd live to see something like this happening in this beautiful, peaceful country that is a shining example of tolerance and inclusion.
UTB
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the_holgate_roof Posted on 16/03/2019 08:52

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For those who watched the video, why did you watch it? What did you hope to get from it?
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CardiffDaffs Posted on 16/03/2019 10:10

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Bungydinsdale. Thatís a great post.
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Muttley Posted on 16/03/2019 10:25

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This attack is a consequence of the hate speech of Yaxley-Lennon, his supporters and others who think like him. Those that think that allowing "hate speech" is a form of "free speech" should be thinking long and hard about the consequences of their support for him.

I note with deep sadness that some of the Newspapers are showing photographs of the murderer as a little blonde, blue-eyed child as if this is somehow relevant. Compare and contrast to the outrage at ISIS inspired attacks. The Daily Mirror is one such guilty party.

I note also with a depressed sense of the inevitable that the posters on here who defend the posturing of Yaxley-Lennon are nowhere to be seen on this thread. If only it was surprising.

So when Teresa May sent vans around immigrant communities extolling immigrants to "Go Home", when the government deported windrush immigrants who had lived here for years, when Boris Johnson describes Muslim women as "letterboxes" or "bank robbers", they are hate mongers, they feed the fear, the islamophobia and the blood of innocents is on their hands.

What's so funny 'bout peace, love and understanding?
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keelo Posted on 16/03/2019 10:32
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Wasn't a part of his " manifesto" extolling Brexit and Donald Trump....Brexit? Wasn't that built on the fear of immigration and wasn't Farage fanning the flames of that with his Syrian Refugee posters implying they were all coming here? I have first hand knowledge that poster inspired a couple to vote out...this isn't a right or wrong of Brexit it's about the hate that's stoked up by certain individuals
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dorivasmiddlefinger Posted on 16/03/2019 13:15

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Given the attacks and barbarity shown in recent attacks in Manchester, Egypt, Paris, Strasbourg, the Lee Rigby incident, is anyone surprised by this? I'm just shocked its taken this long.
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JonJon Posted on 16/03/2019 13:32

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I haven't seen the video and nor would I ever want to.

Social media is becoming a real problem in the world. It's not that it's evil in itself, in fact it was developed for reasons that were intrinsically good - to bring people together. But when it's used to spread evil like this, it becomes extremely dangerous and the companies that provide it have to do something about it urgently.
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boro121 Posted on 16/03/2019 13:47

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the usual crew still incapable of acknowledging what the primary problem is.
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billyzin Posted on 16/03/2019 13:53

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Isn't fishing supposed to be better when it rains?
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parmoboy Posted on 16/03/2019 14:12

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"I don't quite get the response of 'well you have to close the mosques with radical preachers then' to things like this"

I definitely don't agree with Mosques being closed down, but equally I feel we must be much more vigilant and mindful of what is being said in these Mosques.

We've heard the reports about Saudi-Funded Mosques in Britain, who will then dictate which form of Islam is taught - Wahhabism.

If we can speak up after one of these attacks and reference the likes of Robinson as a radicalising factor, and campaign for them to be silenced, we also have to do the same when there is a Jihadist attack, and measures need to be implemented to ensure there people aren't able to radacalise in the future.

I'd be saying the same thing if we knew of people being radacalised in Christian Churches here in Britain.
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foomanboro Posted on 16/03/2019 14:15

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"the usual crew still incapable of acknowledging what the primary problem is"

Enlighten us boro121. What is the primary problem in your opinion?
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