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ClaytonsQuiff Posted on 11/01/2019 23:13
Homeless chap
 
 
Sits underneath the walkway towards captain cook car park, just between wilko and to hughes.

He's always there, never begs, never lifts his head or asks for anything, never bothers anybody.

I saw him a few days ago after work so bought him a warm sausage roll and some hot vegetable soup.

He was so humble and grateful and immediately opened the bag to eat his meal. It got me thinking about taking him a few things more, like a warm blanket and a bag with some bottled water, crisps and chocolate and some sandwiches which will keep for a few days...

I'm going to go down next Thursday which is my next opportunity to do so.

Poor soul. Spare a thought for genuine people like that because it's cold and it's only going to get colder.

Cheers
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Barnsy Posted on 11/01/2019 23:15

Homeless chap

 
Well done Clayton.[^]
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red76 Posted on 11/01/2019 23:17

Homeless chap

 
Well done that man [^]
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Northoftheriver Posted on 11/01/2019 23:17

Homeless chap

 
Sadly in this day and age he's more likely to come across someone who will throw paint at him than someone like you.
Well done for what you have done.
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ClaytonsQuiff Posted on 11/01/2019 23:19

Homeless chap

 
If you see him, what's a quid for a warm pasty to someone like us?

He's probably the only guy in town who never asks. Watch. Walk past him and he doesn't even look up. He doesn't ask for anything.
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the_holgate_roof Posted on 11/01/2019 23:20

Homeless chap

 
well done mate.....[^]
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redwurzel Posted on 11/01/2019 23:21

Homeless chap

 
Good on you.

I bought a bundle of cans of Tomato soup the other day, that you get cheaper in bulk and dropped them in the CO-OP food bank. It wasn't much but I thought that could be 4 meals for £1.60 cost to me. Nothing really.
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ClaytonsQuiff Posted on 11/01/2019 23:23

Homeless chap

 
Exactly red.
Just before Christmas I went round Tesco and bought a tin of everything with Tesco value, or whatever it is, on it. I had nearly three bags full of tins and packets of stuff and it came to less than 15 quid. Straight into the food bank.

Not all street dwellers are faking it
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Ingleby_Flash Posted on 11/01/2019 23:25

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For me i always give something, usually cash. People might not agree but even if 90% goes on drinking or drugs then 10 % gets to some one who really needs it and that matters to me.
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redcarbob Posted on 11/01/2019 23:26

Homeless chap

 
Well done Clayton [^]
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ClaytonsQuiff Posted on 11/01/2019 23:28

Homeless chap

 
See I wouldn't give cash personally. I don't want to be responsible for feeding their habit. It rather ask what they like to eat and buy it for them. Then I know it's put to good use.
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American_Mary Posted on 11/01/2019 23:32

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Good stuff lads, seemingly small acts can make a massive difference to some.

I wonder if thereís a tie in with a supermarket or something we could do where we made a donation and they would give us all the BOGOF offers ?
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redwurzel Posted on 11/01/2019 23:32

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I never used to give anything, like some others on here I thought everyone got decent welfare benefits or made themselves homeless. In the last few years I have changed my mind.
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ClaytonsQuiff Posted on 11/01/2019 23:38

Homeless chap

 
I'm not sure I follow, American?
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middlesbrough123 Posted on 12/01/2019 00:05

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Iím a bit uneducated when it comes to the homeless.

If they sign on and be on the Ďsystemí canít they get social accommodation of some sort ?
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Northoftheriver Posted on 12/01/2019 00:17

Homeless chap

 
Not that aware of how it works myself but I think it's a bit of a catch 22.
To get in that system you need an address so if you are homeless you can't get on the system that will allow you to get homed. Bit sh!t really if I understand that correctly. Also it's been that way for years so neither party has found a solution to the problem. Of course there are those who don't wish to be part of any system so can't take advantage of any help on offer anyway.
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erimus74 Posted on 12/01/2019 00:43

Homeless chap

 
ClaytonsQuiff - Just before Christmas I went round Tesco and bought a tin of everything with Tesco value, or whatever it is, on it. I had nearly three bags full of tins and packets of stuff and it came to less than 15 quid. Straight into the food bank.

Not all street dwellers are faking it

That is so nice [^]
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ClaytonsQuiff Posted on 12/01/2019 00:56
Edited On: 12/01/2019 00:57
Homeless chap

 
Well when you consider how easy it is to spunk so much money on ourselves and families over Christmas on needless things, you see how easy it is to forget about people who can't do that.

Just my little own way of giving something back!
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bblf Posted on 12/01/2019 00:58
Edited On: 12/01/2019 00:59
Homeless chap

 
This might sound a bit harsh but people in Middlesbrough who sleep outside are doing so due to choice.
I worked for over 30 years in a joint health and social services venture.
In that time I was never unable to find accommodation for someone that was homeless(night time ). Our housing department are superb in that area .
I accept theres reasons some dont want to go somewhere due to rules , the other people there,different area to where they are used to or feeling scared around others so they make the choice to stay in the streets.
Where we do fall down is like every other town. The giving out of cold hard cash to help people through the day to buy food, drinks and help pass the monotony of long and often cold days .
That's why I'm glad there's people like the people on here and why I dont mind buying someone a hot drink or a sandwich. Well done everyone .
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redwurzel Posted on 12/01/2019 01:00
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Homeless chap

 
I believe you have to be certain age to get housing help, it could be 25. I don't suspect landlords want unemployed people now rent is given to the claimant and not them.

I remember a young woman on the Mighty Redcar programme sleeping in her car for a few weeks, because she fell out with her mum and she couldn't afford any accommodation. She was working at James Cook too.
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Smoggiebry70 Posted on 12/01/2019 04:54

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Well done clayts[^][^] me and few collegues at work decided not to send xmas cards instead we broyght few bits in for local foodbank ended up with 28kg of atuff foodbank so thankfull
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EpiphanyProudfoot Posted on 12/01/2019 06:32

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More and more about these days.

Everyone has a story of how they got there but family breakdown, eviction and addition are never too far from the reason.

It is a REAL problem in Liverpool and Manchester.
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Trug Posted on 12/01/2019 09:07

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"If they sign on and be on the Ďsystemí canít they get social accommodation of some sort ?"
I don't think you can sign on if you have no address.
Another thing to think about is that there may be a hostel of some sort available but it may be so full of druggies and lunatics that it is safer to be on the street.
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Fabios_porkpie_provider Posted on 12/01/2019 09:25

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It is a REAL problem everywhere Piff.
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Fabios_porkpie_provider Posted on 12/01/2019 09:30

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Well done to those above. Itís easy, cheap and hugely beneficial to someone to contribute to supermarket food bank boxes. Big bag of pasta and couple of jars of dolmio and a whole family have 2 hot meals for £3.
Also important to put things like sanitary products for ladies in them 👍
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spenna76 Posted on 12/01/2019 09:52

Homeless chap

 
Bit off the subject but still regarding the homeless. We came out of that newish buffet place new years eve about 7 o clock and were waiting for a taxi with the kids near changes.
A lad was walking up and down and asked our group about 3 times for money because we came out seperately. We were stood waiting and another lad was sat on the floor near changes and ended up nearly fighting with the first lad for begging over him. Its as if he was on his patch. Me little grand daughter wanted to give him some money so i gave her 3 quid. Soon as he got it he was up and off, said he was going for some food.
The lad on the floor has been in the gazette a few times, he has a brain tumour or similar and learning difficulties and as been issued with all sorts of orders to stop him being in the town.
Its a shame to see so many in this position it really is.
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tryasize10 Posted on 12/01/2019 10:46

Homeless chap

 
It's frightening how many people are on the street begging. I'm in Manchester city centre most days for work and it's at epidemic levels. I've always given to a homeless charity rather than to the individual.

I feel terrible for admitting this but when I first started working here I found it hard to see. Now I think I'm just used to it which is bad. That is not to say it is right that people are on the street, it's actually appalling.

What can actually be done?
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erimus74 Posted on 12/01/2019 11:05
Edited On: 12/01/2019 11:14
Homeless chap

 
Went out last night with my brother in laws, nephews wetting the babies head, we met in TS1, after 10 we walked down Southfield road towards Dickens inn
There were quite a few sat asking for a pound, then we got followed by one lad asking for money, unsettling TBH & quite sad
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1finny Posted on 12/01/2019 11:35

Homeless chap

 
Bblf
You are right some are homeless due to choice (I do some voluntary work in another City). Some of them just do not trust anyone (they have dreadful back stories).
Itís horrible

Good for you Clayton - its much easier to ignore. Must admit, when I buy them a brekkie they get a better one than me. As you say, in the scheme of things it costs nowt.
And, if the odd Ďbad uní benefits occasionally so what - Iíd rather risk that than trying to work out who is genuine and who isntí
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middlesbrough123 Posted on 12/01/2019 13:09

Homeless chap

 
So if all those that wanted to be helped were all taken care of leaving those that chose to remain on the street .
Would it be wrong to have them arrested if legally possible ?

Maybe itís the only way they can be helped , a bit of forced intervention.

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bear66 Posted on 12/01/2019 13:11

Homeless chap

 
Arrest would mean at least night in a warm cell. Not really a deterrent.
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eveshamred Posted on 12/01/2019 13:27

Homeless chap

 
My missus will give dog food to the ones with dogs (for the dog) and a Mcdonald s for the bloke , we were talking the other day if we won a mega amount on the lottery and had a obscene amount of £ how to spend it and we came up with buying a disused building to convert into accommodation for homeless , let them have a room for 12 months so they could sort themselves out .in an ideal world eh ,
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Hulkhogan Posted on 12/01/2019 13:30

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I was working in Glasgow and bought a homeless guy a McDonald's and handed over to him, he was so ungrateful and just wanted the money, obviously for drink and drugs etc
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TheFair86 Posted on 12/01/2019 13:32

Homeless chap

 
There used to be one lad that would put fake blood on his face and ask for a quid to ring an ambulance. Used to always hang around Cineworld.

I wonder how many times it worked, given that most businesses would allow you to use the phone, I can ring one for free on my phone and payphone don't need a quid for an ambulance.
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Mfc79 Posted on 12/01/2019 13:46

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I gave that lad a quid last week. I wondered if he would put it to good use and buy a sausage roll or a cuppa with it or spend it on drugs and then thought I wouldnt begrudge him it even if he did spend it on drugs. Any escapsism when you live like that would be a relief.
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deafschool Posted on 12/01/2019 16:33

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There was something in the Gazette a while back. 10 beggars were given dispersal orders in the Boro. 9 were not homeless and one of them got £1800 in benefits a month.
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deafschool Posted on 12/01/2019 16:35

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Sorry, i almost got the facts right.

'Last year, Middlesbrough Council published a report identifying nine prolific street beggars in the town - and said eight of them were not homeless.

Anecdotally, it was revealed that some often receive more than £2,000 a month in benefits.'

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1finny Posted on 12/01/2019 16:40
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Homeless chap

 
Anectdotally [?]
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viperboy Posted on 12/01/2019 18:24

Homeless chap

 
Every year,the charity event in out of the cold, which I collect for right through the year. With clothes in good nick. Toiletries for example that have come out of Xmas packs, also do the teacher value thing. My philosophy is that you don't know on the future, you might need a bit of a hand. I don't have a well paid job and live quite modestly.
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brattleboro Posted on 12/01/2019 19:20

Homeless chap

 
wife and i seen him one cold day leading up to xmas and just walked by to be honest,then about a minute later going by greggs,i said im going to get him a cuppa tea and a sausage roll,when we got back hed gone.next week went by agian and saw him and went straight to greggs and got the same,this time he was still there.as said above he was very appreciative
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blinkbonny Posted on 12/01/2019 19:22

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Anybody ever heard of the term "virtue signalling?" [:O]
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brattleboro Posted on 12/01/2019 19:25

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nope
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Lurcher Posted on 12/01/2019 19:27

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My wife has 'adopted' the guy with the small dog who sits in the underpass after home games, again just sits, doesn't ask for anything, she's taken gloves, scarf, food for him and the dog after the last half dozen games, He's always polite and very appreciative and I'm proud of her particularly as she gets lots of gentle ribbing from the lads in the Opps before the game about it.
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Mfc79 Posted on 12/01/2019 19:31

Homeless chap

 
I dont think this is virtue signalling. I find it embarrassing that we live in a country where people live like this. Im partly to blame because im living reasonably well I rarely spare a thought for others who arent. I suppose its a subconscious im alright jack kind of situation.
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billybob Posted on 12/01/2019 20:07
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Homeless chap

 
Well done ClaytonsQuiff and everyone else that gives tins of soup to those less fortunate.

A round of applause to you all. You obviously do a lot for charity and I know you don't like to talk about it ... [:D]
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clive_road_stamper Posted on 12/01/2019 20:16

Homeless chap

 
Homelessness can happen to anyone. As can total despair and all the things that go with it. Please look kindly on your fellow human beings.
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sw2boro Posted on 12/01/2019 20:24

Homeless chap

 
If you're actually giving something to a homeless person, you're not 'virtue signalling', you're being virtuous.

Anyway, accusing someone of virtue signalling is just a form of virtue signalling.
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billyzin Posted on 12/01/2019 20:29

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I've heard " anecdotally", that most of them have a Mercedes and a 5 bedroom house.
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ClaytonsQuiff Posted on 12/01/2019 21:13

Homeless chap

 
As said, I'm gonna pop down on my day off. My Mrs said 'you've got that warm north face jacket you don't like, why don't you give it to him.

And I will. And a blanket and some bits and bobs.
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1st_time_caller Posted on 13/01/2019 09:21

Homeless chap

 
Good stuff Clayton, it's a good thing to do

I live in Newcastle but don't go into town much, whenever we do though we always find Mark who hangs out near the mile castle. His mum works as a cleaner in a&e where my wife works. She's tried many times to get him to come home but he just wont. We always find him and get him a Gregg's and a tea and stuff. Got him a kebab and chips last night, he was over the moon and very grateful, got his dog a couple of cans of dog food which I had to open with my house key, fingers torn to shreds, but hey ho, I came home to a warm bed. Mark and his dog, buster, didn't

Please don't just walk on by. Mark's not helping himself with some choices he makes, but it breaks his mum's heart he won't accept her offers of help (he says he feels too bad about stealing from her and turning out the way he has) and if nothing else, he deserves a hot meal
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1finny Posted on 13/01/2019 09:30

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Lovely post

On a side note isnít wonderful that we live in a world where people like to have a go at other people for being kind and considerate

ĎVirtue Signallingí - dearie, dearie me.
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hopesoboro Posted on 13/01/2019 09:41

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£2000 a month!?!? £24000 per annum equating to possible salary of £30000!?!
How can you apply for this position!?!
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