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redwurzel Posted on 11/01/2019 16:50
Univeral Credit - A gift that keeps giving
 
 
I don't know about any one else but I can see Universal Credit being responsible for a lot of votes for left wing parties over the next 5 years.

Look at the High Court Case today and what came out - claimants are denied £500 a year they are legally due, because the computer software at the DWP assumes they have being paid twice when they receive an early payment for a bank holiday. DWP officials and Government Ministers knew this and continued to impose it, because they said it would cost too much money to change the software. They even challenged the decision in the High Court at more public expense.

7m people receive UC or are due to.

What does that say about senior officials at the DWP and Government Ministers?
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Trug Posted on 11/01/2019 16:54

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What does that say about senior officials at the DWP and Government Ministers
It says, "money is more important than lives."
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WeeGord Posted on 11/01/2019 16:55

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I daren't tell you what it says about them in my opinion or I'll be barred from this site. I will, however, say that those responsible for the utter shambles that has left millions in poverty, homeless figures rising at an astonishing rate and food bank usage soaring are utter scum and they simply couldn't give a f*$k about the millions they cause misery to.

The very lowest of the low.
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dreamdealer Posted on 11/01/2019 16:56

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This one act sums up the Tories to a T.

Heartless, discriminatory, elitist.
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bblf Posted on 11/01/2019 17:11

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I'm all for restricted benefits if you have more than 2 children. I've worked all my life as has my wife and would have loved more children but couldn't afford to do that.
Why should someone who has 6 or more children be able to benefit from tax payers who knew how many children they could afford to bring up.
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redwurzel Posted on 11/01/2019 17:16

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bblf - the High Court case was nothing to do with number of children.

What you mention was something else announced today by Amber Rudd. I don't know the details of that one.
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bblf Posted on 11/01/2019 17:18

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Ahh ok just caught the snippet at the end of the news.
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1finny Posted on 11/01/2019 17:23

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Weegord [^]
Heartless and shameful
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Pottomed Posted on 11/01/2019 21:38

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So everyone on universal credit is a poor want to work individual who has no idea how to work a system?
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Cooper6711 Posted on 11/01/2019 21:53

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The children thing was that a claimant with more than 2 children couldn't xfwr to UC as the system wouldn't allow it. What amber Rudd announced was a fix to that so they can. From Wednesday anyone received severe disability premium will not transfer to UC as they lost it so now they can keep it.

UC is here to stay in the long run... it's too far down the line now. If it was couple years in it would have been scrapped
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billyzin Posted on 11/01/2019 21:59

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"So everyone on universal credit is a poor want to work individual who has no idea how to work a system?"

Please expand on this statement.

Thanks in advance.
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redwurzel Posted on 11/01/2019 22:40

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I think we know what he/she means. They think millions of people plan all their lives to go on benefits and don't want to work, but prefer to go wild on £73 a week (including all bills and food).


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Cooper6711 Posted on 11/01/2019 22:56

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I'm certainly no way stating 73 a week is an acceptable amount. But you have to discount the fact you basically have no rent, council tax or childcare to pay. Additional benefits such as child tax credits and child benefit if have children. PIP and SDP possibly too

It's not there's 73 go pay all ya bills with that which is what that comment suggests
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redwurzel Posted on 11/01/2019 23:16

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However Rent and Council Tax are not fully paid by U/C - everyone has to pay 20% no matter what their income - if your property is judged more than the basic minimum you pay much more than 20% i.e. bedroom tax. Disabled benefits is in the main for extra costs of disability for example I know people who need special spectacles that can cost £800 a pair they are not provided by the NHS if you are an adult.

A bloke near me was protesting o/s the Job Centre as he only had £8 a week to live on after he paid his rent and council tax. He damaged his neck at work and was told he was unfit for work by a NHS consultant but not DWP. He also said he suffered PT stress from his time in Iraq in British medical corps.
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Cooper6711 Posted on 11/01/2019 23:56

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Not pretending I know the ins and outs of UC but I do for legacy benefits such as JSA,IB,ESA,IS

Remember the ESA assessment is for any form of employment not the employment you previously done
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Trug Posted on 12/01/2019 09:03

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Come on Pottomed. I really am interested in this statement-
Oh, I know what you mean now- you mean the Dukes of Northumberland and Westminster receiving £20000 a year subsidy for their grouse moors don't you.
Or that family that has all those big houses getting them rent free- you know, the Windsor family.
Silly me, here's me thinking someone might be getting a pound or two more than they should do and risking a prison sentence for it.
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Maffed2705 Posted on 12/01/2019 09:18

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The turkeys will continue to vote for Christmas unfortunately. Too many of them believe everything thatís written in The Sun.
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Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 12/01/2019 09:23

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And still board members attack those least able to help themselves. Good old pottomed.
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Nero Posted on 12/01/2019 09:52

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A couple of my friends have worked for companies contracted by DWP. Both are scathing at the lack of knowledge and levels of bureaucracy.

One worked on the Higher Income Child Benefit policy. He didn't give specific details but said the Civil Service were completely clueless and people were being shafted.
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Cooper6711 Posted on 12/01/2019 10:58

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Higher Income Child Benefit is HMRC
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Riponred Posted on 12/01/2019 11:13

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Anyone who hits hard times or through illness or disability, deserves help.
I can never feel sorry for these mother types that just Breed and have never done a days work in their lives.
Got a few that live in my street.
Always play the victim and expect everything for nothing.
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markusbent Posted on 12/01/2019 11:16

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I still can't understand why people have this massive chip on their shoulders about people "Cheating the system" to the extent that they think all claimants should be treated like muck.

Surely the minority who are cheating the system won't be affected as badly as people who don't, because they are the ones who know how to cheat it...
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icarus1965 Posted on 12/01/2019 14:24

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Cooper works for the DWP !

claimants will have to find childcare when they are forced to do unpaid work !
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Pottomed Posted on 12/01/2019 15:54

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Trug please read my post again.
There is no doubt that the majority on Universal Credit need the support, However you would have to be pretty naive and insular not to think that some people play the system and prefer not to work.
Nothing to do with the Windors or Grouse moors or footballers or film stars even
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Trug Posted on 12/01/2019 16:26

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There are some people who will play any system. That's human nature. What I find abhorrent is rich people play it for millions and it is legal. Poor people play it for a few quid and are jailed whie the rich are completely untouched. Benefits fraud is minute and I would much prefer someone receive a few extra quid than others be denied help because of some perceived playing of the system.
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OPEO Posted on 12/01/2019 16:50

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Pottomed. Tory. Vvanker.
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redwurzel Posted on 12/01/2019 23:46

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One of my local Conservative MPs said he forget he paid his mortgage off and illegally claimed a year of mortgage payments as an expense - nothing happened to him - probably illegally claimed £25k. He was voted back in 2015 and 2017. White collar crime - so treated in a different way.

Cooper - bedroom tax has be around for quite a while now before UC.


Ripon red - What % of those claimimg benefits in your opinion are doing it as a lifestyle choice?
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Pottomed Posted on 13/01/2019 00:47

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What a nob
Please tell me why you think I voted Torey
To be be fair tho I would never vote for the Diane Abbot sha**r Corbyn.
Have I mentioned he has never had a job that isn't state funded in his entire life.
Not difficult to research have a look
Then apologise
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swordtrombonefish Posted on 13/01/2019 00:49

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Trug. Amen.
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boro_crag Posted on 13/01/2019 09:29

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There is an article in the Gazette that negatively portrays universal credit as it has massively affected single mothers on teesside. Due to the cap most have had their benefits cut back to £20000!! I'm sorry to generalise but the vast majority of single mothers on teesside chose to fall pregnant knowing the fall back of 20 grand a year and a house without having to work isn't the worst thing in the world. I'm all for supporting those in need such as those who physically cannot work, however why do we give 20 grand a year to someone who qualifies by simply having a kid that we then pay for not either of the parents.
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Trug Posted on 13/01/2019 11:19

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"Have I mentioned he has never had a job that isn't state funded in his entire life." And what is wrong with that if he is working for the state?
I have never heard anything so ridiculous. Nurses. doctors, social workers, teachers, forces, police, border agencies, government departments, civil servants- I could go on.
What has Corbyn sh***ing Dianne Abbot got exactly what to do with anything? This post is about Universal Credit and its unfairness. You really have scraped the bottom of the barrel.
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redwurzel Posted on 16/01/2019 01:42

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To get £20k a year in Universal Credit a single mum would have to have an small army of kids. Useful if we have another war!
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Jonny_Rondos_Disco_pants Posted on 16/01/2019 05:42

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Even if people are claiming what they probably shouldnít, this is offset by the amount of people who donít claim what they are entitled to. Government coffers are benefiting.
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Nero Posted on 16/01/2019 07:20

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Benefit payments to working age people is small compared to other Government costs. Yet the right-wing media and Tories have everyone blaming those on benefits.

The Tories have hammered those most in need. Benefits attacked, Local Government Funding attacked and all designed so the least well off suffer.

To be fair to the likes of Cooper. The Civil Service just implement Government Policy.
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