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loftusloyal Posted on 11/01/2019 07:15
Am I the only one not worried about brexit
 
 
I can think of dozens of other things to worry about rather than brexit very rare it enters my head ,can honestly say sat in the pub this subject has never even been brought up ...just a lot of spoilt kids who can't get their way.....some of the posters on here who go into such depth about is unreal .
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peter_beagrie_killed_my_cat Posted on 11/01/2019 07:21

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Do you understand the implications of what's happening? If not then don't worry about it.
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capri Posted on 11/01/2019 07:27

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Not worried in the slightest.

I'm sure people who live in Syria and Ethiopia worry less day to day.

It's the same pathetic posters banging on about it on here day in day out.

They need to find something constructive in their lives to focus on.
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Borocelt Posted on 11/01/2019 07:28

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ďI donít think it really effects me, so I donít careĒ

Have you ever opened your mind to consider that while it might not directly effect you or whoever youíre down the pub with, it has made an absolute mess of many peopleís lives and livelihoods, and the ďyouíll be fineĒ attitude of the Brexiteers doesnít really cut it with them. There are literally millions of Europeans the UK, and Brits within the EU27 who have had years of misery heaped on them, but also their friends and families. They have every right to be angry. Itís called empathy. Try it some time.
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capri Posted on 11/01/2019 07:33

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Empathy eh?. Coming from the poster who mocks other posters who are terminally ill.

Have you tried it yet, have you?.
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flipside Posted on 11/01/2019 07:39

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Capri said :It's the same pathetic posters banging on about it on here day in day out.

They need to find something constructive in their lives to focus on."

And yet you started a thread yourself about Anna Soubry just the other day.
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capri Posted on 11/01/2019 07:45

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I'm not complaining every day about it though, or abusing other posters who have a differing opinion on the matter.

How about you?
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flipside Posted on 11/01/2019 07:46

Am I the only one not worried about brexit

 
Practise what you preach.
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jam69 Posted on 11/01/2019 07:47

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how about the pathetic poster who has to come up with a new username every other day to spout his bile. you should really seek help.
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capri Posted on 11/01/2019 07:50

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Didn't take long did it [8)]
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flipside Posted on 11/01/2019 07:53

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Wonder what username he'll come up with next?
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CardiffDaffs Posted on 11/01/2019 07:54

Am I the only one not worried about brexit

 
ďAm I the only oneĒ [:D]

Nice use of a leading question knowing full well, if you have read this Board at all before, that there are a number of vocal posters pro Brexit with no apparent concerns.

Or possibly you need your own views reconfirmed as youíve started to have latent worries?
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capri Posted on 11/01/2019 07:55
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What a fascinating thing to wonder about.

Why don't you have a sweepstake, pat on the back for the winner.

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flipside Posted on 11/01/2019 07:57

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You find it fascinating? Strange, but there you go.

Already the mask is slipping. It usually takes you a bit longer than this.
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Ticker_Tape Posted on 11/01/2019 08:03

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Not much we can do till we leave, I would imagine the worse case scenario would be like 1980`s, but this time there is no heavy engineering, ship yards, mines, manufacturing to shut down.
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capri Posted on 11/01/2019 08:04

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Well as you said, if you're wondering about it, it's clearly at the forefront of your mind and causing you immediate concerns.

I wouldn't let it get to you to be honest.
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flipside Posted on 11/01/2019 08:08

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You're getting tied up in knots fella.
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BigmetsBoro86 Posted on 11/01/2019 08:11

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Think most are more bothered about us getting a winger or shot of Rudy[;)]
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capri Posted on 11/01/2019 08:15

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I'm getting so tied up in knots.

Is that your clichťd get out of jail free card statement is it?.

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flipside Posted on 11/01/2019 08:18

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Just to you Capri. Or whatever username you choose today. Same as your other usernames. Same troll different name.
The mask has slipped. Again.
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foomanboro Posted on 11/01/2019 08:23

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Of course not OP. There are many other people in this country who want to bury their head in the sand and talk only about the shallow things in life.
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zaphod Posted on 11/01/2019 08:23

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It will hardly affect me at all: loss of EHIC and having to pay for visas is about the sum of it, as long as I stay healthy and don't need EU doctors, nurses and care workers. I don't mind taxes increasing, as I think that needs to happen anyway in or out of the EU.

Some people here in London are already affected, though. Losing jobs or risking doing so.
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capri Posted on 11/01/2019 08:33

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The mask is slipping, what's that supposed to even mean?

More utter gibberish and another feeble attempt to hide your insecurities.
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gazzastrip2 Posted on 11/01/2019 09:16

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"Have you ever opened your mind to consider that while it might not directly effect you or whoever youíre down the pub with, it has made an absolute mess of many peopleís lives and livelihoods, and the ďyouíll be fineĒ attitude of the Brexiteers doesnít really cut it with them. There are literally millions of Europeans the UK, and Brits within the EU27 who have had years of misery heaped on them, but also their friends and families. They have every right to be angry. Itís called empathy. Try it some time."


Really?

Or more made up scaremongering?

We and our EU counterparts can sort this out quite easily and we have already said on numerous occasions that we will do so.

I know plenty of Europeans living in the UK and plenty of Brits living in Europe. Of course Brexit is an issue for them as it brings uncertainty, but they don't seem to adopt the approach, attitude or ideas that you do!

Brexit can be as painful or pain free as both sides wish it to be. It can really be as simple as that in the end!
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SophieMfc Posted on 11/01/2019 09:34

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The effects of Brexit will be thousands upon thousands of job losses and the poor will get poorer. I guess if you are wealthy you will ride the storm but for most working people it will be a painful time.
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atypical_boro Posted on 11/01/2019 09:42
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Brexit poses a very limited immediate threat to my livelihood, but it does bother me that it could have an enormous impact on the economy as a whole, and that my son won't grow up with the same opportunities I had, and that he may have to live through what might be a very unpleasant break-up of the United Kingdom.

That said, if the wallies in government who initiated it can actually ever deliver it, we'll have to roll with the punches, but its pretty clear with 2 months to go that we won't be fully out any time soon, if ever. So 'worried' isn't the word I'd use, but that doesn't mean I have no opinions on it as if it doesn't matter, when it clearly does. I don't see the merit in burying one's head in the sand.
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laughingboroboy Posted on 11/01/2019 09:44

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Im not into the brexit debate, but when i see things like "thousands upon thousands of job losses and the poor will get poorer" what does that mean?

What jobs & how will the poor get poorer?
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Borocelt Posted on 11/01/2019 09:45

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Except it hasnít been sorted, has it?

Some individual countries have confirmed Brits will be able to carry on regardless. Not all have. Crucially though, they will be restricted to that one country. I can travel within schengen on my ID which is guaranteed for the next five years, but beyond that? It will depend on a fragile political situation. Most countries I probably *would* get a visa with my work, but just because iíd be alright, if inconvenienced, doesnít mean I donít feel for others. People who cross the border daily in Gib & NI is a minefield, and Iíd assume there will be plenty of Brits who require mobility in their work.

It is also not that case that every nation has guaranteed rights in the event of no deal. Where I live *has*, and Iím fortunate in that regard. Looking back home, to EU citizens in the UK,, there is still no guarantee, because no one knows what will happen. Theresa Mays word is worth nothing. They are asking EU citizens to pay money to apply to stay, in a system which may or may not go ahead. People have left, and continue to leave because they feel unwelcome, or anxious over the final result, many skilled workers, or contributors to our NHS. It splits families in some cases. The entire system devised by May is a pointless and cruel exercise in bureaucracy, that has even been condemned by Rees fking Mogg, who for his million faults, has at least from day one supported indefinite leave to remain and business as usual for everyone already in the country (it might be lacking on the detail front, as I donít know how we would do this beyond issuing some kind of national ID).

If anyone has ever dealt with the home office for anything, youíd have reason not to trust them to have things resolved on time. Iíve seen friends have visas refused arbitrarily and repeatedly, and the idea of rolling this out to EU citizens, who moved here under different circumstances, is deeply unfair. Treating everyone equally awfully is not my idea of progress (yet seems to hold bizarre traction with some of the lexit lot).

It *is* making peopleís lives unpleasant, iíve plenty of first hand experience of it, but I can equally empathise with others I donít know. Just because it doesnít effect you directly doesnít mean you shouldnít be concerned for others it does..
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boromike85 Posted on 11/01/2019 09:53

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"Have you ever opened your mind to consider that while it might not directly effect you or whoever youíre down the pub with, it has made an absolute mess of many peopleís lives and livelihoods, and the ďyouíll be fineĒ attitude of the Brexiteers doesnít really cut it with them. There are literally millions of Europeans the UK, and Brits within the EU27 who have had years of misery heaped on them, but also their friends and families. They have every right to be angry. Itís called empathy. Try it some time."

And yet this is ironic because you refuse to try and understand why anyone voted to leave in the 1st place. You show no empathy to the majority of the electorate but instead shout down, belittle and denigrate them and the decision that they have made. You see the issue through blinkers and only consider your own viewpoint. There are many reasons for voting to leave. It is not black and white.

In school we were given the task of putting forward the argument for the opposite side of a debate than you were on. This made you consider that point of view fully. I am almost certain the rabid remainers on here wouldn't be able to do it because they have never put their head above their trench to understand why people have the views that they do. They just talk among themselves about how racist, stupid and gullible 17m+ people must be.
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atypical_boro Posted on 11/01/2019 09:58
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"I am almost certain the rabid remainers on here wouldn't be able to do it because they have never put their head above their trench to understand why people have the views that they do."

Nationalism, scapegoating, xenophobia, imperialism, nostalgia and anti-federalism.

No not everyone on the Brexit side voted for all of these things. But the problem is, a lot of Brexiters want to make out like none of these things played any part whatsoever, it was all based on economics, and it just isn't true.
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lapennabianca Posted on 11/01/2019 09:58

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So it just boils down to not feeling heard or seen, Mike?
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gazzastrip2 Posted on 11/01/2019 10:01

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I would like to live and work in the USA, Australia and new Zealand as and when I wish, but I cant without going through a process and even then I probably wouldn't get in.

I once lived in OZ and they changed the rules and I came back. I am afraid these type of things can happen.

I am sure there are lots of people from around the world who want to live and work somewhere else but cant.

The country voted to leave on a democratic basis. There's lots of things I don't like about it but I would feel uncomfortable if the government ignored the democratic will of the majority.

It is up to the EU and UK to sort out a system for movement of people and goods.

Yes there will be some who are negatively affected but one hopes that a fair system will be put in place (it can be if there is a will and co-operation on both sides).

re "Rees fking Mogg" as you call him- it seems to me that he is one of the MPs that speaks good sense when it comes to these matters but he will be lambasted on here because he is a Tory, because he is posh and because he is a brexiteer!

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bear66 Posted on 11/01/2019 10:06

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The EU deals with NZ and Australia will relax migrant workers requirements.
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OPEO Posted on 11/01/2019 10:47

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She'd make a fine prime minister. I'd vote for her.

Link: Sky
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Chappy112 Posted on 11/01/2019 10:59

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It worries me. I have family living in Italy, theyíve been dumped on by Brexit from multiple angles already. One of them has his pension paid into his UK bank account so going from 1.40 to 1.10 exchange rate has been a huge hit for them. Theyíve been trying to sell their UK house since last summer due to the uncertainty and purchase a cheaper property up north but thatís not gone to plan so far, whether house prices have been affected by Brexit or not, Iím not sure.

One of them is flying back next week hoping to sell the house, if not then he has to get a job after being retired for almost 10 years.
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gazzastrip2 Posted on 11/01/2019 11:14

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Sorry for your family Chappy, but again Brexit doesn't necessarily mean that they will have to return? They may choose too but if we and our EU counterparts can put in place a fair system why does anything have to change?

As for the house price issues- yes Brexit is probably one of the causes of House price reductions, but it cant be blamed solely for it. Plus if the price of the house being sold falls so will the price of the house being bought?

Re the FX rate on the pension- again Brexit is probably a major cause for the depreciation of the £ but again not the only one. Currencies can and do fluctuate for a variety of reasons and it is not beyond the realms of possibilities that the £ will strengthen against the euro in due course, especially given some of the Economic news out of Euroland of late- in particular Italy.

I really don't get why anti Brexiters blame every possible negative thing on Brexit?

If you want to do that then why not blame the EU!

We want to trade with the EU presumably as they wish to do with us. We and they can make up the rules of engagement to suit both parties. In my opinion the bad rhetoric (from both sides to be fair) is what is causing concern.

I don't like the UK anti Europe message, nor do I like the EU message that we cant allow them to leave with a decent deal ie they will have to be worse off once they go!
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bear66 Posted on 11/01/2019 11:16

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"I really don't get why anti Brexiters blame every possible negative thing on Brexit?"

They don't. So nothing to get.
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CasinoGrande Posted on 11/01/2019 11:21

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Nope, me too. Pointless worrying about something you can't do anything about. And bangin on about it on here seems to just entrench both sides beliefs.
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Kevo4 Posted on 11/01/2019 11:22

Am I the only one not worried about brexit

 
Worrying about it wonít change a damn thing, thereís better ways to use up your energy
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gazzastrip2 Posted on 11/01/2019 11:24

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If you think that Bear you obviously don't read the multiple threads on this topic here everyday, watch or listen to the BBC, or read pretty much any British newspaper!

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jam69 Posted on 11/01/2019 11:28

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i have yet to see anyone blame our lack of fire power on brexit.
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bear66 Posted on 11/01/2019 11:31

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If someone states they are making a decision because of, or partially because of, Brexit (like Jaguar Land Rover yesterday), that doesn't mean it's fact but the fact they said it is fact. Just like when someone says a free trade deal with the EU would be the easiest in history; that doesn't mean it's a fact but the fact they said it is fact.

The world economic picture is so unstable at the moment that nothing is guaranteed. The US/Canada/Mexico deal has a clause that if anyone does a deal with a country such as China, the others can walk away from the deal. Any deal with the USA is likely to have that same clause. There is a stability of trade relations in the EU and the other 50 or so countries it has trade deals with that will be very difficult to replicate on our own.
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The_same_as_before Posted on 11/01/2019 11:35

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No, I am not worried whatsoever. We will cope as will the EU
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jonny2773 Posted on 11/01/2019 11:38

Am I the only one not worried about brexit

 
Worried about Brexit? No

Concerned how it is going effect my family's lifestyle? Yes a little.

Is going on about it, either here or down the pub going to change things? No

Is there anything I can do about it? Not a jot!

Have this government made a mess of it all? Without a doubt.

Is the next government going to change anything? Most definitely not.

To summarise, we have made our bed and now we have to sleep in it.
We should never of had a referendum, it was foolish to leave it to the public thinking that they would make an informed decision when the only information they would use was propaganda.
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bear66 Posted on 11/01/2019 11:39

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capri Posted on 11/01/2019 11:43

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What are you sticking your thumbs up for, he said there's no point going on the about it on here [:D]
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exeterboro Posted on 11/01/2019 12:00

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Directly affects me, already indicators that the work I am in is being affected. My partner has uncertainty about her future in the UK, if she has to go back to Spain, then not certain I will be able to join her. Also the amount of little scrotes who make remarks to non white British seems more visible, so have a future of village idiot politics to look forward to.
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bear66 Posted on 11/01/2019 12:10

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"What are you sticking your thumbs up for, he said there's no point going on the about it on here"

He didn't say that.
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capri Posted on 11/01/2019 12:12

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'Is going on about it, either here or down the pub going to change things? No'

But he did though.
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foomanboro Posted on 11/01/2019 12:13

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Try telling the tens of thousands of workers in the car Industry that are losing their jobs today to not to worry about Brexit.

Link: Ford, Honda and Jaguar all axeing UK jobs
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Chappy112 Posted on 11/01/2019 12:15

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ďAs for the house price issues- yes Brexit is probably one of the causes of House price reductions, but it cant be blamed solely for it. Plus if the price of the house being sold falls so will the price of the house being bought?Ē

Unfortunately not, the house they fell in love with is on a new build and all their prices have gone up, not sure why? I donít really understand all that stuff. Not blaming Brexit on everything either by the way, it just all seems to have had a knock on effect and all at the wrong time.

I know other people are probably doing fine but itís been really hard on them.
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The_same_as_before Posted on 11/01/2019 12:53

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Fooman the car issue is nothing to do with Brexit. Sales are down 7% in a year.

It is all about electric cars and greenhouse gas emissions.

I know you are one eyed on Brexit but try and open it
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JLinardi Posted on 11/01/2019 12:57

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£100 a day to drive into London thatís insane
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Trimbletow Posted on 11/01/2019 13:07

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I donít even think about Brexit. I accept that I am just a pawn in the game of life and have no intention of having to make political decisions. I realise this means that I have to accept any decisions that are made.
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HolgateCorner Posted on 11/01/2019 13:19

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Iím not worried about Brexit either, what will be will be and I think this country has a certain background level of wealth and economic activity which will see us through.

I join in with some of the Brexit threads on here because I like reading other viewpoints, occasionally I learn about things I didnít know or just to stoke up the argument a bit.

I voted Remain and still believe in Remain but the arrogance and attitude of some of the Remainers who post on here tells me exactly why 17 million voted out, the EU is a flawed system but none of them seem bothered about that they just want their own way. It does not reflect well on them.
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bear66 Posted on 11/01/2019 13:21
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"But he did though."

No he didn't. He said it won't change things but people still discuss politics even if it doesn't change things.

Just as discussing your preferred team doesn't change things.
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foomanboro Posted on 11/01/2019 13:25

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Honda specifically said it had to do with Brexit.

Yes global demand for diesel has declined but UK is disproportionately being effected vs the rest of the world due to uncertainty caused by Brexit.
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Funky_Chicken Posted on 11/01/2019 13:28

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Iím not worried because it wonít happen [8)]



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The_same_as_before Posted on 11/01/2019 13:29

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You mean the short term close down at the commencement of Brexit. That makes perfect sense to me to derisk

Production will start straight after
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plazmuh Posted on 11/01/2019 13:39

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Not at all..

It is merely a wonderful distraction..

Bigger and better things are already in the pipeline

that will make this and Trumps wall a total and

complete irrelevence..

Much Love
Plazmuh
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capri Posted on 11/01/2019 13:41

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'No he didn't. He said it won't change things but people still discuss politics even if it doesn't change things.

Just as discussing your preferred team doesn't change things'

Read it again word for word,instead of trying to twist it around you cretin.

It's embarrassing watching you wriggle around. Maybe you'd make a good politician after all.
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expat_smoggie Posted on 11/01/2019 13:43

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the only thing that worries me about Brexit is the passport situation. I'm sure it'll backed up like the NHS.
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foomanboro Posted on 11/01/2019 13:49

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"You mean the short term close down at the commencement of Brexit. That makes perfect sense to me to derisk

Production will start straight after"

Define short term? Do you honestly think that that tariffs and customs checks, will be resolved in a matter of days?

The car industry is heavily reliant ďjust in timeĒ delivery systems for manufacturing. The reality it could take months if not years to resolve and the consequences will be catastrophic.
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The_same_as_before Posted on 11/01/2019 14:12

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Fooman, if manufacturers are that efficient why does it take up to 4 months to get a new vehicke delivered?

Try and but an engine you have more chance of Sunderland actually selling tickets
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atypical_boro Posted on 11/01/2019 14:18

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"the EU is a flawed system"

I don't think many would argue that it is perfect.

Leaving won't be perfect either though, if we can even deliver it. Far from it.

Too many people have forgotten why we joined in the first place. The UK at the time was a flawed system as well. It is likely to be very flawed again soon, once Scotland and NI try to leave, and all the cost and headache associated with that.
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foomanboro Posted on 11/01/2019 14:26

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4 months? Don't worry, you can at least double that wait time after we leave.
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The_same_as_before Posted on 11/01/2019 14:30

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No I will buy a different vehicke. For Renault change to Nissan, for Mercedes I will buy Lexus, that's commerce for you
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foomanboro Posted on 11/01/2019 14:36

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Ah yes Toyota's Lexus. Glad you brought them up.

Link: Negative Impact of Brexit on Toyota UK
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bear66 Posted on 11/01/2019 14:55

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@capri - no need to resort to insults of a personal nature that insult other members of society as well.
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The_same_as_before Posted on 11/01/2019 15:01

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Did you miss out the word 'temporary' on purpose?

And we thought Mendleson could spin
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