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Trug Posted on 07/12/2018 08:35
It just gets worse
 
 
Kent Council - effect of Brexit to them

Link: Link
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coluka Posted on 07/12/2018 08:58

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It wont happen though, parliament wont let it come to pass. Article 50 will be extended and a referendum will see us remain. The press are interested in scare stories not reality

Hope that helps
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BarnesBoroFC Posted on 07/12/2018 09:09

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Is yet another thread really necessary?
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lapennabianca Posted on 07/12/2018 09:11

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The press didn't make this up, its a report by the Kent County Council
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coluka Posted on 07/12/2018 09:16

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Nobody said they made it up. I stated Parliament wont let it happen. I said it was a scare story. They sell papers. We all know Parliament wont allow a no deal.


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erimus74 Posted on 07/12/2018 12:15

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What would happen if some councillor wrote once in Brexit everything will be perfect, unemployment would be all time low, interest rate would rise earning savers a nice bonus, jobs would be created, companies would thrive, it would be ridiculed, yet soon as doom & gloom is posted then 'yes' it's true, it's going to happen
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Remster Posted on 07/12/2018 12:21

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"bodies could pile up in morgues" -> "unburied bodies"

The Graun really is the Daily Mail of the Centre.
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erimus74 Posted on 07/12/2018 12:23
Edited On: 07/12/2018 12:24
It just gets worse

 
Anything bad, it's true I tell ya[rle]
Anything good, we haven't left yet you idiot [rle]
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tonybiriyani Posted on 07/12/2018 12:25

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erimus - they used those tactics in the referendum and obviously enough people were taken in by them.
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BobUpndown Posted on 07/12/2018 12:34

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"The Graun really is the Daily Mail of the Centre." Centre?? it's way off in left field..

DM has a new editor - now both owner & editor are Remainers.. if anything the DM will try to be the new centre paper..

no such thing as independent news.. esp printed media as all owners have an angle..
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erimus74 Posted on 07/12/2018 12:35

It just gets worse

 
Yep, I'm happy with that [^]
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Ironops Posted on 07/12/2018 12:39

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Erimus74 - the reason nobody is writing those stories is that nobody thinks its going to happen

There are plenty of right wing pro brexit newspapers out there -telegraph, express, sun etc

why arent they printing these lovely sunny stories of how things will all be marvelous?
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flipside Posted on 07/12/2018 12:41

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"What would happen if some councillor wrote once in Brexit everything will be perfect"

There's a reason why they haven't.
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erimus74 Posted on 07/12/2018 12:43

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So I'll post again

Anything bad, it's true I tell ya[rle]
Anything good, we haven't left yet you idiot [rle]

Simple really
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Remster Posted on 07/12/2018 12:44
Edited On: 07/12/2018 12:46
It just gets worse

 
'"The Graun really is the Daily Mail of the Centre." Centre?? it's way off in left field..'

Socially, perhaps, but not economically. As far as I know, only the Morning Star fits that bill.

In any case, I like to say that the Guardian is a Centrist paper to annoy Guardian readers.
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bear66 Posted on 07/12/2018 12:51

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It has commentators across the spectrum. That doesn't make it left, right or centre.
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flipside Posted on 07/12/2018 12:57

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So what is "good" then Erimus?
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superstu Posted on 07/12/2018 12:58

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The Guardian's definitely not a leftwing paper in it's reporting on UK or USA politics. Puts all it's weight in to trashing leftwing politicians like Corbyn or Sanders, and backing up centre-right figures like Blair, Umunna, Clinton. It's much more supportive of left wing parties and leaders in the rest of Europe.
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etmfc Posted on 07/12/2018 12:59

It just gets worse

 
If Brexit goes ahead and there is less trade with the EU why would there be lorry congestion in Kent?.
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Ironops Posted on 07/12/2018 13:14

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Thats a good point - a lot more unemployed lorry drivers
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flipside Posted on 07/12/2018 13:15

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Etmfc, this is about a no deal Brexit, so increased security and customs checks.
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Boromart Posted on 07/12/2018 13:20

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I have it on good authority that under a no deal if this happens, if food shortages occur they may have to open up ports, not take any customs duty or check any goods coming in. That would be a terrible situation.
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etmfc Posted on 07/12/2018 13:54

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I would have thought less volume of traffic would offset increase in security checks.
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flipside Posted on 07/12/2018 13:57

It just gets worse

 
Why?
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Dan_Ashcroft Posted on 07/12/2018 14:01

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Because it backs up a self-belief that all of these reports are purely scare-mongering rubbish
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Ironops Posted on 07/12/2018 14:05

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In fact both are correct

In the sort term there will be traffic chaos due to customs checks

In the long term this chaos leads to business moving to where the markets are and negating the need for transport across borders
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glover_elbow Posted on 07/12/2018 14:06

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What gets worse is the speculation and rhetoric given as fact a tsunami of excuses and reasons not to accept the democratic process. Its fùcking scandalous.
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Ironops Posted on 07/12/2018 14:08
Edited On: 07/12/2018 14:09
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The democratic process has given us May's deal - happy with that?

The democratic process also meant taking back control to our parliament - happy with whatever they decide as an alternative?
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flipside Posted on 07/12/2018 14:09

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Aye, it's scandalous that council's are carrying out am assessment of risk in the event of a no deal Brexit. [rle]
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Dan_Ashcroft Posted on 07/12/2018 14:13

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glovers_elbow - the report is in favour of Brexit and the deal that is on the table:

"The leader of the Conservative-led Kent county council has urged MPs to think “long and hard” about voting against Theresa May’s Brexit deal, warning that no-deal gridlock in Dover would spread chaos around the country at a cost of almost £1.75bn a week to the economy."

Link: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/dec/07/k
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FartingGnome Posted on 07/12/2018 14:20

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"In any case, I like to say that the Guardian is a Centrist paper to annoy Guardian readers."

The Guardian is and always has been identified with the Liberal Party (or whatever it is they call themselves this week). The thing most likely to annoy left leaning Guardian readers would be to call it Leftist.
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plazmuh Posted on 07/12/2018 14:25

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AHH THE GUARDIAN or should I say

The scott Trust

[cr]

Link: Nothing to fear with these independent Archangels
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glover_elbow Posted on 07/12/2018 14:25

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The article may have a modicum of accuracy who knows but the likes of guardian and BBC have flooded the media with article after article it becomes spam. They are carpet bombing any reasonble debate.
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plazmuh Posted on 07/12/2018 14:36

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Why are you surprised..

They have been misleading the public

for decades..

The BBC is also a recipient of EU funding for

Years now..

To get funding they are duty bound to support

a pro EU mandate..

They were never ever going to give equality

certainly not on this fundimental issue..

They dont get paid grants for that..

Much Love
Plazmuh
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bear66 Posted on 07/12/2018 14:42

It just gets worse

 
Interesting article in the Guardian today about shadowy non-democratic direction and stifling of debate.

Link: Link
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Dan_Ashcroft Posted on 07/12/2018 14:47

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"To get funding they are duty bound to support

a pro EU mandate."

Link: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum
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Trug Posted on 07/12/2018 14:58

It just gets worse

 
And it gets even worse- or perhaps it is
scare mongering by the government

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Norman_Conquest Posted on 07/12/2018 15:57

It just gets worse

 
A remain paper prints a story on how life will be so horrible after we leave.

As said above, the government won't let us leave and never had any intention of doing so.
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Ironops Posted on 07/12/2018 16:01

It just gets worse

 
so get rid of the govt...
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uncle_rico Posted on 07/12/2018 17:16

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Project Fear.

The county of Kent that played a massive part in rescuing 338,000 soldiers from occupied France under fire from one of the biggest armies the world has ever seen.

Now they can't get lorries over a bridge or onto a ferry?
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Ironops Posted on 07/12/2018 18:45

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The Germans weren’t running customs checks on the soldiers leaving though.

The British weren’t running customs checks on the soldiers coming home either

What a stupid example!
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uncle_rico Posted on 07/12/2018 20:25

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It’s not an example. It’s merely pointing out what was achieved 80 years ago, yet they’re making a meal out of something that can and should be very straight forward.

For some unknown reason the pro-EU media persist on using the very worst case scenario as fact. It’s pathetic.
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Ziggy Posted on 07/12/2018 20:43

It just gets worse

 
'We can fly medicines into the country in the event of a No Deal' says the Health Minister.

How many votes would Leave have got if that had been on the side of their bus.
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boroskel65 Posted on 07/12/2018 20:57

It just gets worse

 
Maybe Mark Rylance under direction from Christopher Nolan can commandeer a few hundred fishing boats and get Stephen Fty, Eddie Izzard and Damon Albarn and all the other luvvies to traipse across the Channel to.....
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clive_road_stamper Posted on 07/12/2018 21:25

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thats all well and goo but wheres my dinner
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etmfc Posted on 07/12/2018 21:28

It just gets worse

 
It will be our Electric supply next that's under threat.
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plazmuh Posted on 07/12/2018 22:02

It just gets worse

 
Strange how he has the time to Fearmonger..

But ask him about Alternative cancer Treatment

and he is forbidden to ever discuss this topic

because of a UK act of parliament from the 1930s

It shows how out of touch Parliament is today..

In the Meanwhile Wealthy farmers are growing Tons and

tons to export..

No double standards there im damb sure..

I have 2 bottles next to my Pc right now..

one of them is collodial silver..

The other is CBD oil..

But advice on dosage had to be found outside the UK..

Thank you very much Ministers of the 1930s..

Im more than happy to be treated with a dirivative of

Mustard gas instead of cured..

Fcuking diabolical Government..

Self serving cretins the lot of them..

So the next time sombody asks why I appear so hostile

to the Gov/Media

The clues are staring you in this post..

Never believe one word thats told to you

PLEASE DONT BE SWAYED BY MY WORDS

Go online and find your own truths..

ITS YOUR DAMB TIMELINE

NOT THEIRS

NOT MINE

YOURS TO DO WITH AS YOU WILL..

VOTE WHATEVER THE FCUK YOU WANT TO

OUR TIME IS FINITE AND I KNOW THAT

MEDIA FEAR WILL KILL YOU FASTER THAN LIFE ITSELF..

THATS WHY ITS THEIR BEST WEAPON..

So please be kinder to one another..

Have a laugh fall in Love spend your minutes

enjoying what you are..

Beautiful Humans..

Please have a wonderful weekend everyone..

Much Love
Plazmuh

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mickgaz Posted on 07/12/2018 23:29

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Well said plazmuh I hate all members of Parliament too especially my local M.P Paul Williams.
Who lied to get his seat in Stockton south. He said he respected the brexit vote to leave and has since done everything to stop it.
You are right they are all a bunch of self serving XXXXXXs.
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uncle_rico Posted on 07/12/2018 23:59

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Same as Turley. 62% of people in R&C voted leave, yet all she has done since is talk about how we should remain.

A diabolical MP who is typical of the modern Labour Party.

But regardless of which party they’re from, they’re all the same. Only in it for themselves.
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