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EpiphanyProudfoot Posted on 06/12/2018 20:13
Edited On: 06/12/2018 20:16Film Recommendation = The Usual Suspects ITV4 10pm
 
 
"The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist,"

Bryan Singers classic noir thriller is well worth a watch if you have never seen it. It pretty much enjoys cult status. It is hard to believe it is 23 years old.

The plot follows the interrogation of a disabled survivor of a Californian dock massacre and arson attack, several Argentinian and Hungarian gangsters perish whilst still on board a smuggling vessel.

A US government agent (Chaz Palminteri) smells a rat and travels to the police station where the surviver, small time con operator (Kevin Spacey) is being held to conduct the cross examination. The film is presented to the viewer through Spacey's narration with that smug voice of his and a series of flashbacks in the six weeks that preceded the massacre. Palminteri's character tries to piece together the truth.

Christopher Walken and Robert DeNiro both turned down US, Al Pacino was pencilled in to play Agent Kugan but got dragged into another project, I dont think Singer could afford them anyway. Palminteri and Spacey are brilliant regardless. Other actors included Gabriel Byrne, Benito Del Toro Stephen Baldwin and our very own now deceased Pete Postlethwaite.

The story develops around the cripple and a gang of regular criminals (as seen in the legendary film poster) and the menacing mysterious, mythical invisible Turkish crime lord Keyser Sose who is controlling everything?
The film is famous for a haunting score, very sharp script and stand out performances by the smallish, relatively unknown at the time, cast. It is also famous for the amazing twist at the end, only Fight Club gets anywhere near the surprise element.

Probably one of the greatest movies of all time.


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canyoudigit Posted on 06/12/2018 20:19

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Much farting in it? Groan
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EpiphanyProudfoot Posted on 06/12/2018 20:25

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Naaah, not that I can remember.

'King Frat' and 'Blazing Saddles' lead the way in the old trouser cough department on screen.

JJ Grossout was set to win the campus fart contest in King Frat but was disqualified for drawing mud. His ex girlfriend won after matching him pump for pump on the fartometer
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Paul66 Posted on 06/12/2018 22:40

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a favourite of mine

moves along at a pace, great characters and plot, mystery suspense and a twist thatll take some beating, acting is excellent
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EpiphanyProudfoot Posted on 06/12/2018 23:50

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It is a masterpiece, it never really got the credit at the time.

It was odd seeing Stephen Baldwin on Celebrity Big Brother a few years back and a bible bashing B movie actor. Nobody mentioned his portrayal of the psychotic McMXXXXXX in US.

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Northoftheriver Posted on 07/12/2018 00:15
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One of my all time favourite films [^]

Pete Poslethwaite is fantastically understated in it too as Kobayashi
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Cooper6711 Posted on 07/12/2018 01:37

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One of my favourite all time favourites also great film
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bumface Posted on 07/12/2018 03:34

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Back to recommending really obscure films that we haven't all definitely seen before again Piff? Try harder mate.
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borolad01642 Posted on 07/12/2018 04:26

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One of my fav's....along with the Untouchables [^]
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BigmetsBoro86 Posted on 07/12/2018 04:40

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Classic[^]

An amazing story and of course last 10mins 'twist'[^]
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Fabios_porkpie_provider Posted on 07/12/2018 07:04

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What’s it called again mate? Never heard of this one before....It must have slipped under the radar and not been massively popular or critically acclaimed or widely known as one of the best movies of all time, so thanks for highlighting this little known film for all us movie plebs.
Groan.
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EpiphanyProudfoot Posted on 07/12/2018 07:14

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Bit harsh bumface.

Plenty of younger posters will not have seen US.

Agree with you about Pete Postlethwaite NOTR. Fantastic English actor.

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Remster Posted on 07/12/2018 07:36

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Damn, missed it!
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bear66 Posted on 07/12/2018 10:38

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For some reason, the four times I've watched it I've fallen asleep half way through. Must just watch the second half next time.
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EpiphanyProudfoot Posted on 07/12/2018 11:45

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Not good bear lad,

How can you fall asleep during such a gripping film!!!

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bumface Posted on 08/12/2018 03:53

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You know that I was just pulling your puddings there EP, so give over. 'Usual Suspects' is a fairly good film but it's not as great as some like to claim. It has some capable character actors giving commendable performances but there's a big dollop of the whole 'Fight Club' style nineties faux profundity hanging over it in my opinion.

I'm 200GB in credit on that private tracker site that I mentioned before. If you could recommend any recent Korean or Japanese movies that I might want to watch it would be much appreciated.
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EpiphanyProudfoot Posted on 08/12/2018 07:22

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US became such a classic because it was shot on a small budget, I actually heard that Singer had to go cap in hand to get extra funding for Palminteri who was the biggest 'name' at the time (Spacey and Del Toro have never looked back since US)

To this day I have never met anyone who wasn't surprised at the end, or can boast they had figured it out.
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bumface Posted on 09/12/2018 04:11
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It's hardly the reveal of the century, is it? I do like the film but is way over-hyped by the same kind of people who think that 'Fight Club' and 'Requiem For a Dream' are masterpieces. (MAJOR SPOLIER ALERT FOR THE THREE PEOPLE IN THE WORLD WHO HAVEN'T ALREADY SEEN IT) 'He just made it all all up' is only a small step away from the Dallas style 'it was just a dream' kind of resolution, surely? Bugger all groundbreaking about that. Been done to death.

It's not a bad film but it is hugely overrated in my own sweet opinion.

Any offers as far as the Japanese/ Korean films are concerned? Look out for 'Shoplifters' when it goes on general release. A cracking film. Saw it with my other half and oddly about two dozen pensioners at the Arc last week. Same director who made 'Nobody Knows', 'Still Walking' 'Like Father Like Son' etc. I had no idea that the over sixties were the most avid admirers of Asian cinema in Stockton. Bit of an eye opener that.
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Harbottle Posted on 09/12/2018 04:29

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I watched about 20 minutes of it years ago and gave up.
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bumface Posted on 09/12/2018 04:36

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Not sure that your opinion really counts then Harbottle, you lovable old troll, you!
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EpiphanyProudfoot Posted on 09/12/2018 06:57

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Bumface.

'Shoplifters' was reviewed by Mark Kermode yesterday, he said it was brilliant. He was also going orgasmic over the new Rachel McAdams, Rachel Weisz movie 'Disobedience'

I have not seen many Korean movies recently, last two were 'Train to Busan' and 'The Wailing'. I saw the movie 'Searching'at the cinema, set in the Korean community of California. Its about a widower who has to go snooping around his missing daughters on line activity after she goes missing.

One element of Korean movies I like (Old Boy, Memories of Murder, Mother etc) is you are often left wondering at the end.
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EpiphanyProudfoot Posted on 09/12/2018 07:03

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Its a pity you only lasted 20 minutes Harbottle, the director dishes out about three huge clues in that time.

It is not for everyone, you have to stay with it. It's worth the ride for the final moments when you realised you have been conned all the way through.
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bumface Posted on 10/12/2018 04:47

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Apologies to you Piff. I didn't see 'Shoplifters' at the Arc at all. I unwittingly and half drunkenly had a bit of a senior moment and told you a naughty fib there by accident. It was in Newcastle that the blue rinse brigade were out in force and in fine fettle, not Stockton. I visit so many venues in the region that they eventually all start to bleed in to one another in my aged and well addled mind.

The good news for you though is that you can see that film at The Arc in January if you fancy it. You like to pretend to be a Mackem after all and we all remember what Gibson said about Stockton all of those years ago so you should feel right at home.

I'm a bit annoyed that Kermode agrees with me. Can only tolerate him with the sound off and the subtitles on most of the time and I'm normally in staunch opposition to his generally masturbatory, frankly tedious and rather establishment driven led conservative and vacuous opinions on film.

God help us if anyone actually makes a vital and essential and original new film that appeals to the working classes. How will people like him cope in their cosy little Hoxton lofts after watching something like that?
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EpiphanyProudfoot Posted on 10/12/2018 09:53

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Kermode thought ‘The Babadook’ was the dogs XXXXXX but I thought it was doggo.

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hopesoboro Posted on 10/12/2018 10:11

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Can you watch C4 movies on catch-up?
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Dustbin_Man Posted on 10/12/2018 10:14

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Ive never seen Usual Suspects so on the back of this thread, I have recorded it and will be watching it over my Xmas time off. Thanks, it better be good! [;)]
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EpiphanyProudfoot Posted on 10/12/2018 10:46

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Just stay with it Dustbin.

I apologise if you think it is crap but on a lazy day stick it on, have a few beers and enjoy.

Always remember that all is not what it seems, and the red herrings start around ten minutes in.
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fools_gold Posted on 10/12/2018 11:12

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"Kermode thought ‘The Babadook’ was the dogs XXXXXX but I thought it was doggo."

Our lass made us watch that and it was sh*te. I prefer horror films to be scary - not depressing.
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EpiphanyProudfoot Posted on 10/12/2018 12:49

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Agreed FG, well acted I supposed but the kid was too irritating.

Kermode raved about it!
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bumface Posted on 11/12/2018 04:37
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I kind of disagree about 'The Baba- whatever' to be honest. I quite liked it but that puts me on Kermode's side again and that troubles me more than it probably should. EP. You mentioned 'Suicide Club' not that long ago. A Sion Sono film that tons of people thought was a crap horror movie when it was never supposed to be a horror movie in the first place. It just borrowed those genre trappings to highlight the bonkers schizophrenic characteristics of modern Japan where the long held old pre war notions of collectivism still somehow impossibly coexist with those fresher imported Western ideas of Capitalism and the associated 'me, me, me' cult of the individual that goes along with that.

'The Bad, bad bollok' did a similar thing, I thought. It was a film about post-natal depression and grief. It was never meant to be a horror movie in the traditional sense.
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HezBurra Posted on 11/12/2018 06:49

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Ahreed bumface, i always thought that the babadook was a metaphor for mental illness.

I don’t have an issue with mark kemode, I quite like him.

I don’t mind piff actually when he is doing his film stuff. We all know he is copying and pasting opinion and passing it off as his own but it’s an interesting subject and at least he isn’t talking about trouser coughs.

When you think about, even his board persona has been lifted, a Boro fan pretending to be a Mackem pretending to be a Boro fan. I reckon he got a special edition of inception on dvd one Christmas and got a bit carried away after listening to the directors nites,
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Dustbin_Man Posted on 11/12/2018 09:06

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Cheers Epiphany Proudfoot,

A few beers makes most films good. Dont get much spare time to sit down and watch tv. Its on my things to do list. [^]
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BobUpndown Posted on 11/12/2018 09:15

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"Probably one of the greatest movies of all time"

TBH I've always been - hugely - underwhelmed by this film..

I saw it the first time, without any knowledge of the hype & rave reviews.. & thought it was 'B' movie material though a fun little watch, even if it did have a ridiculously OJ "the glove doesn't fit ending" ending (same year).. which I just thought was trite..

watched again & B movie classic is still my opinion..

Now, The Life of David Gale is a tough watch & a superb performance from Spacey.. if a little prophetic of his issues to surface..

Link: LoDG
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The_same_as_before Posted on 11/12/2018 09:23

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EP, I agree a brilliant film, your summary again on the button.

But is it a film worth watching twice knowing it's all bolloc ks?

It reminds too much of Dallas when some character came back as the previous series had all been a dream .
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EpiphanyProudfoot Posted on 11/12/2018 09:36

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Babadook was clever admittedly but the demon looked like the puppet from the Jonny Vegas tea adverts. It didn't do it for me.

LODG is a half decent watch with a strong cast. Kate Winslet generally picks a good script.

US isn't for everyone Bob. It has the best twist ending in modern times. 'Fight Club' and M.Nights 'The Village' are 2nd and 3rd behind it.
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HULLRED66 Posted on 11/12/2018 18:49

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When I saw the Usual suspects title, I thought the Scumderland fans had attacked a disabled supporters bus again. They are known for the atrocious act throughout the land [|)]
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EpiphanyProudfoot Posted on 11/12/2018 20:33

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Could be worse Hull, they could be urinating in the opposition goalies water bottle.
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bumface Posted on 13/12/2018 04:43
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Jesus wept, EP. You pretty much admit that you misunderstood 'The BarbPapa' and then you go on to praise that charlatan M. Night Silly Bugger and talk about 'Fight Club' as if it's anything more than a bit of shiny,glossy inconsequential nineties fluff. I've been enjoying conversing with you but bloomin' 'eck. Watch many more and better films is my advice.
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EpiphanyProudfoot Posted on 13/12/2018 16:12

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M.Night is a clever director Bum.

The Happening might of stunk but the majority of his work is quality.

'The Village' is a brilliant film, some of his edgier works such as 'Unbreakable' are a decent watch too.

He was involved in a movie called 'Devil' a few years ago which was a real trip.
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HULLRED66 Posted on 13/12/2018 16:40

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Groan
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EpiphanyProudfoot Posted on 13/12/2018 21:01

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Thanks Hull.
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