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hamstercheeks Posted on 07/11/2018 09:04
Who will eventually replace Pulis?
 
 
This isnt a Pulis out thread, but just wondered what direction you think Gibson will go after Pulis.

I've got a feeling that Woodgate would be a candidate.
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Exiled_in_Herford Posted on 07/11/2018 09:05

Who will eventually replace Pulis?

 
As soon as I saw the title I thought Woodgate, then saw your OP. [:D]
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Kevo4 Posted on 07/11/2018 09:05

Who will eventually replace Pulis?

 
Gotta be Rav’s turn surely?
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ILOVEJUNINHO! Posted on 07/11/2018 09:15

Who will eventually replace Pulis?

 
Woodgate & Fleming. Absolutely no doubt about it.
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atypical_boro Posted on 07/11/2018 09:20

Who will eventually replace Pulis?

 
An unknown. Its just easier.

Even if he brought in Jose Mourinho he'd have some fans complaining that the football wasn't 'good enough' for them.
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coluka Posted on 07/11/2018 09:22
Edited On: 07/11/2018 09:23
Who will eventually replace Pulis?

 
I think it could be someone like Chris Wilder.
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Exiled_in_Herford Posted on 07/11/2018 09:22
Edited On: 07/11/2018 09:23
Who will eventually replace Pulis?

 
I'd imagine if we brought in Pep we'd have some fans saying we take too many chances in possession. I guess it all depends on how you like your football being played Atypical. Oh and Pep wouldn't have survived his equivalent first season with Man City with us because we didn't walk the league by November.

See what I did there?.
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BillinghamBen91 Posted on 07/11/2018 09:23

Who will eventually replace Pulis?

 
It's hard to look beyond Woodgate, I guess which league we are in may have some influence, would Gibson give Woodgate a chance if we were in the Prem?

I know Agnew was given a chance, but that was merely a caretaker role until the end of the season.
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coluka Posted on 07/11/2018 09:27

Who will eventually replace Pulis?

 
“Even if he brought in Jose Mourinho he'd have some fans complaining that the football wasn't 'good enough' for them”

Well they did with his former protégé a while back I suppose, so why would the masses change
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atypical_boro Posted on 07/11/2018 09:29
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Who will eventually replace Pulis?

 
Completely agree exiled, high profile managers don't seem to work very well for us, whether its Pep, Jose or Tony Pulis.

We've generally had more success with relative unknowns like Karanka or McClaren, than with well-known managers like Monk, Strachan, Mowbray and of course now the 'disastrous' Pulis[;)].
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hamstercheeks Posted on 07/11/2018 09:43

Who will eventually replace Pulis?

 
Do you think Woodgate is more likely to be a McClaren/Karanka or an Agnew?

He never strikes me as management material to be honest, if he wasn't a local lad I'm not sure hed even be in the running.
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atypical_boro Posted on 07/11/2018 09:48
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Who will eventually replace Pulis?

 
I can't say I'm excited at the prospect of it being Woodgate and I honestly don't think it will be, personally.

Pulis will be here a good 5-6 years I think, maybe more, so its very hard to predict who will be after him.
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Exiled_in_Herford Posted on 07/11/2018 10:01

Who will eventually replace Pulis?

 
Pulis will be gone at the end of the season if we don't go up. The crowd sizes and season ticket renewal will see to that.
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atypical_boro Posted on 07/11/2018 10:02
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Who will eventually replace Pulis?

 
Agree but we will go up. [:D]
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uncle_rico Posted on 07/11/2018 10:21

Who will eventually replace Pulis?

 
I'm sure TP's contract only runs until the end of this season. I guess it will depend if we go up or not whether he extends it. Steve Elis is 72 also, so he's not going to be around (in his role!) for too long I wouldn't think.

I'm sure the plan is for us to get up, establish ourselves in the top flight again, and then hand over to someone like Woodgate. Pulis might want to give it another year depending on how we go this season, if we don't go up.

If TP does leave at the end of this season I see us going for Steve Bruce. He was Gibson's first choice after Karanka/Agnew.

I think it will be a while before we see a foreign manager at the helm again put it that way.
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coluka Posted on 07/11/2018 10:24

Who will eventually replace Pulis?

 
I do not think TP will be in charge next season even if we go up atypical. I think TP would take any negotiated bonus and swan off back to Sandbanks or wherever it is he lives.

I hope he gets his bonus though
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atypical_boro Posted on 07/11/2018 10:26

Who will eventually replace Pulis?

 
Fair enough but what he says in interviews suggests he isn't at all struggling with the commute and would like to be here for a long time. He's only 60 as well so could easily spend a decade here if things continue to go right on the pitch.
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Exiled_in_Herford Posted on 07/11/2018 10:35

Who will eventually replace Pulis?

 
He's got to discover there's two half of the pitch first atypical.
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atypical_boro Posted on 07/11/2018 10:37

Who will eventually replace Pulis?

 
I'm sure he will.[^]
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coluka Posted on 07/11/2018 10:38

Who will eventually replace Pulis?

 
A decade [:D]
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atypical_boro Posted on 07/11/2018 10:47

Who will eventually replace Pulis?

 
Maybe two [:D]

Here's hoping. [^]
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UTFB_1986 Posted on 07/11/2018 10:50

Who will eventually replace Pulis?

 
David Wagner for me. If Huddersfield get relegated then I think we may make a move either straight away or a year after.

Him or Jokanovic if he’s available.

I can’t see Woodgate being chosen just yet.
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Exiled_in_Herford Posted on 07/11/2018 10:57

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Well here's hoping it's not Wagner. I don't like Pulis, wasn't a fan of AK and he'd be exactly the same type of manager.
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UTFB_1986 Posted on 07/11/2018 11:00

Who will eventually replace Pulis?

 
I’m led to believe he was Gibson’s choice prior to Monk but Huddersfield’s promotion put a stop to any formal move for him.

Watch this space is all I’m saying.
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atypical_boro Posted on 07/11/2018 11:03

Who will eventually replace Pulis?

 
I heard the same rumour UTFB.
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Wev1 Posted on 07/11/2018 11:12

Who will eventually replace Pulis?

 
I don't think Woodgate is a good idea, it's a harder job running a North East club than any other as it's harder to attract the players and Woodgate wouldn't have enough "pull" or experience.

I would prefer the route of a foreign manager, ideally one that's worked to a similar style to what our squad would be at the time.
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coluka Posted on 07/11/2018 11:19

Who will eventually replace Pulis?

 
Woodgate would be a disaster.

He would need a strong experienced assistant who all the fans could take too as one, like Downing [8D]
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Indeedido Posted on 07/11/2018 11:26

Who will eventually replace Pulis?

 
I'm in a tailspin at the merest mention of another decade of pulis.
I don't see him swapping Sandbanks for Sandsend and that suits me fine.

We will not get promoted this season and he will pogo off down south. If we do, then he'll go with a giant bag of swag so everyone should be happy.
Unless Gibson drops another bo!!ock and keeps the lunatic on.

I have no idea what Woodgate is like now, but he has always struck me as gormless in the media and in person. That might be a million miles from reality.
I hope so, because I think it is absolutely nailed on that Woodgate and Fleming will be at the helm, with Downing involved too.
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coluka Posted on 07/11/2018 11:29

Who will eventually replace Pulis?

 
A frightful thought Indeedido [xx(] but as we keep getting told on here Gibson always knows best [:D]
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McMordie Posted on 07/11/2018 11:29

Who will eventually replace Pulis?

 
Surely it should be one of the posters off here who know more about the game than our manager?
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atypical_boro Posted on 07/11/2018 11:30

Who will eventually replace Pulis?

 
Serious question, in a hypothetical world where the manager of our club had to be a regular poster from this board, who'd you go for (can't say yourself)?
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Exiled_in_Herford Posted on 07/11/2018 11:32

Who will eventually replace Pulis?

 
Surely you understand how a messageboard works?. It would be a very quiet one if they didn't.
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coluka Posted on 07/11/2018 11:36

Who will eventually replace Pulis?

 
The problem is not so much the manager though for me McMordie, it is about poor recruitment under the last few managers. A manager cant make a really successful team out of a group of players if all the components are not present. As such nobody would succeed.

For me responsibility lies elsewhere before a manager has a chance of achieving success
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atypical_boro Posted on 07/11/2018 11:38

Who will eventually replace Pulis?

 
Why do you shudder at the thought of a decade of Pulis then Col if you don't have a problem with him?
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coluka Posted on 07/11/2018 11:41

Who will eventually replace Pulis?

 
“Serious question, in a hypothetical world where the manager of our club had to be a regular poster from this board, who'd you go for (can't say yourself)?”

Good question atypical, worth a thread of its own [:D]

I would go for Indeedido as he has a good grasp of the game from his postings, is not afraid to pull punches, recognises the financial constraints, is realistic and does not suffer fools gladly.
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atypical_boro Posted on 07/11/2018 11:42
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Who will eventually replace Pulis?

 
good idea col[^]. Watch this space.

PS. Had a feeling you'd go for Indeedido.
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atypical_boro Posted on 07/11/2018 11:47

Who will eventually replace Pulis?

 
The ironic thing about this statement, Col:

"I would go for Indeedido as he has a good grasp of the game from his postings, is not afraid to pull punches, recognises the financial constraints, is realistic and does not suffer fools gladly."

is that you could almost be describing Tony Pulis. [:D]
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otto42 Posted on 07/11/2018 11:51

Who will eventually replace Pulis?

 
Maybe we'll try the big name ex England captain route again....Stevie G anyone or Wazza Rooney. Gerrard is semi serious, but it would depend on whether he saw us as a step up from Rangers, Inn the premier perhaps?
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coluka Posted on 07/11/2018 11:51

Who will eventually replace Pulis?

 
“Why do you shudder at the thought of a decade of Pulis then Col if you don't have a problem with him?”

Firstly, It is wrong to say I dont have a problem with him, I do, but to different degrees of some. His play off handling was shabby imho. His agreement to let Bamford leave was bizarre too. For balance, I believe he has done well so far with the players he has either inherited or has been provided with by Gibson and feel he was let down, like AK was latterly, on recruitment in the final third in terms of pace and creativity.

A decade of any manager (imho) is not good. Clubs need fresh ideas and impetus to evolve. Both Ferguson and Wenger stayed too long. Not many managers stay 5 yrs let alone 10. Pulis’s teams can be effective, but short term pain for long term gain is fine, I dont believe he would evolve though at his age.
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BigmetsBoro86 Posted on 07/11/2018 11:53

Who will eventually replace Pulis?

 
Hopefully he will be here for a while. That would mean we've been promoted and sitting mid table in the prem[^]
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Exiled_in_Herford Posted on 07/11/2018 11:55

Who will eventually replace Pulis?

 
Ferguson won the title in his last year, surely he stayed just the correct amount of time?
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atypical_boro Posted on 07/11/2018 11:56

Who will eventually replace Pulis?

 
I disagree about Ferguson Col, they made the Champions League final two years before he left and he left them on top of the pile. They're a million miles from both now.
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McMordie Posted on 07/11/2018 12:00
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Who will eventually replace Pulis?

 
"The problem is not so much the manager though for me McMordie, it is about poor recruitment under the last few managers. A manager cant make a really successful team out of a group of players if all the components are not present. As such nobody would succeed.

For me responsibility lies elsewhere before a manager has a chance of achieving success"

Coluka sums up my view perfectly here.

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coluka Posted on 07/11/2018 12:01

Who will eventually replace Pulis?

 
“is that you could almost be describing Tony Pulis. [:D]

Careful, Slander is still a criminal offence atypical [;)]
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McMordie Posted on 07/11/2018 12:02

Who will eventually replace Pulis?

 
I'd go for Erimus74, whose first act would be to demolish the housing estate and move us back to Ayresome Park.
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Spacedak79 Posted on 07/11/2018 12:12

Who will eventually replace Pulis?

 
Woodgate 100%
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coluka Posted on 07/11/2018 12:20

Who will eventually replace Pulis?

 
Exiled and Atypical, to clarify somewhat on Ferguson and Wenger.

Re Ferguson..... I think his last few years were overseeing a time of decreasing quality of squad that has to a degree continued since. I appreciate that may be down to others though too. They won the league in his last year as the challengers imho drew too many games and were not at their best at that time, a bit like when Leicester won it.

Atypical, re ferguson champs league comment, I recall Wenger won the FA cup 3 out of his last 5 yrs I think, but that did not stop arsenal fans believing he had stayed too long.

All about opinions.
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coluka Posted on 07/11/2018 12:23

Who will eventually replace Pulis?

 
“I'd go for Erimus74, whose first act would be to demolish the housing estate and move us back to Ayresome Park.“

Rob would be homeless though (I think), a definite ban will result for that suggestion [:D]
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hopesoboro Posted on 07/11/2018 12:29

Who will eventually replace Pulis?

 
Col,Gibbo might not "know best" but I've got a sneaky feeling he may know better than you![:D]
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Marvanelli Posted on 07/11/2018 12:30

Who will eventually replace Pulis?

 
Coluka

Fergie won the league in 12/13 by a margin of 11 points....wasn't that more than any other time during his time as manager?[:D]

Absolute b0ll0cks he stayed too long.

What a load of nonsense.

You could argue Wenger stayed too long...especially looking at their league form since they last won it...but then again, he won the FA Cup 3 times in his last 5 years as manager which is nothing to be sniffed at.
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Indeedido Posted on 07/11/2018 12:32

Who will eventually replace Pulis?

 
I think that is now a knock out blow atypical.
First there is the "another ten years of pulis" left hook.
Followed up with the "I sound just like pulis" sledgehammer.[B)][B)]
No need to kick me, I'm done.

Kind words Coluka, but I would be the first to be giving me stick if some lunatic appointed me as manager.[:D]
I might well add significant value in another key role, but that is never going to happen for some fundamental reasons.

Go easy atypical, I'm fragile[8)]
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McMordie Posted on 07/11/2018 12:41

Who will eventually replace Pulis?

 
"Rob would be homeless though (I think), a definite ban will result for that suggestion [:D]"

There used to be a big room with a snooker table under the North Stand. Couldn't Rob have that?

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coluka Posted on 07/11/2018 12:42

Who will eventually replace Pulis?

 
Like I said Marv all about opinions. The squad he left for Moyes was not the best. As for the 11 points, see my comments re Leicester, you make it sound so simple, many factors came in to play at the time, standards of opposition squads etc. He chose to leave earlier and changed his mind, he must have felt himself at one point his time was due earlier
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coluka Posted on 07/11/2018 12:48

Who will eventually replace Pulis?

 
“There used to be a big room with a snooker table under the North Stand. Couldn't Rob have that?”

There was no internet access in there last time I was in McMordie, Erimus74 would need that room for his memorabilia anyway [;)]
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crocker Posted on 07/11/2018 12:51

Who will eventually replace Pulis?

 
I have always thought that Woodgate is loitering in the background like a bad smell for too long and that he is here and waiting for a reason. Jobs seem to have ben created for him.
Pulis will be gone at the end of this season.
It was never a long term deal and Pulis spends too much time 350 miles away to be considered long term. (maybe thats wishful thinking)!
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hopesoboro Posted on 07/11/2018 12:57

Who will eventually replace Pulis?

 
crocker schit![:D]
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mendieta420 Posted on 07/11/2018 12:58

Who will eventually replace Pulis?

 
nailed on to be Woody. I liked how he set the team up preseason, has played at the very top level, knows all the lads in the youth academy, so why not?
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Indeedido Posted on 07/11/2018 13:14

Who will eventually replace Pulis?

 
Not quite Marv - Fergie's United won the league by 18 points in 1999/2000.

But I take your point - Fergie did win the league in his final season which is always a great achievement.
I still think Coluka is right though and he stayed too long, leaving a squad in poor shape making the next guy's job even more daunting. It didn't help that they chose Moyes, but then Fergie was still always around.
Wenger definitely stayed too long at arsenal. Emery has transformed the place.

It is all about opinions etc.
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redlips Posted on 07/11/2018 13:22

Who will eventually replace Pulis?

 
O’Neil the Northern Ireland boss,

Anyone but woodgate.
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crocker Posted on 07/11/2018 14:00

Who will eventually replace Pulis?

 
hopesoboro - why do you actually bother contributing to this board?[:o)]
Its about peoples opinions - not you trying to be clever and ridicule other peoples comments.
Why not give an opinion yourself for once ? [:o)]
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WillMunny Posted on 07/11/2018 14:25

Who will eventually replace Pulis?

 
The point about Ferguson is an interesting one. In both of his last 2 seasons they got 89 points and only two teams have managed the same haul in the 5 seasons since. So they were outstanding seasons back to back.

After he left, Man Utd didn't surpass 70 points in any of the following 4 seasons. I understand the argument that he left an ageing squad, but surely the evidence at hand suggests he was capable of getting far far more out of that team than his successors could. On that basis, perhaps you could argue he went too soon, or at least that if he'd gone sooner, their demise would have started earlier! [;)]
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JLinardi Posted on 07/11/2018 14:48

Who will eventually replace Pulis?

 
I think it would have to be wilder if we are still in the championship, twice in 2 seasons he’s took a team of nobodies worth about £8 to the top of the league, they don’t do it ugly either.
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atypical_boro Posted on 07/11/2018 15:07

Who will eventually replace Pulis?

 
Indeedido [:D][^]
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uncle_rico Posted on 07/11/2018 15:11
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Who will eventually replace Pulis?

 
"Pulis spends too much time 350 miles away"

Does he? How much time exactly?

I know for fact that he only went home a couple of times after his first game in charge and the end of last season.

How many times does Mourinho leave his Manchester hotel to go back to London? Or Rafa Benitez back to his home in Liverpool? You're making out that its an issue when it really isn't.
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atypical_boro Posted on 07/11/2018 15:15

Who will eventually replace Pulis?

 
Where does Pulis stay the rest of the time? Anyone know?
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coluka Posted on 07/11/2018 15:51

Who will eventually replace Pulis?

 
Downing said that he was missing a couple of days a week in a recent interview I believe.

I can recall rumours that Martin O’Neill wanted a similar arrangement in discussions and Gibson allegedly saying no, after McClaren left. Maybe he has mellowed his thinking.
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McMordie Posted on 07/11/2018 16:12

Who will eventually replace Pulis?

 
According to Graeme Souness, Jack Charlton was rarely seen between matches because he was hunting and fishing in Northumberland or The Borders while Ian McFarlane took training.

No wonder we didn't do the double in 1974/75 [:(]
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xxlshirts_fit_all Posted on 07/11/2018 16:45

Who will eventually replace Pulis?

 
can i be the first to say....

Pulis' replacement OUTTTTTTT!!!!!!!
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Indeedido Posted on 07/11/2018 16:48

Who will eventually replace Pulis?

 
In fairness Jack did like it up The Dales as well (so to speak)
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Tuncaythefunguy Posted on 07/11/2018 17:13

Who will eventually replace Pulis?

 
Mowbray amandd give him money!!!

He made some wonderful signings with hardly a penny plus he plays footy.

I like Pulis by the way.

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coluka Posted on 07/11/2018 17:29

Who will eventually replace Pulis?

 
Jack Charlton was often at his place in Filey too [:D]
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Sortie Posted on 07/11/2018 19:21

Who will eventually replace Pulis?

 
I'd nominate Exiled to appoint the next manager. It'd be interesting to see who if anyone met his standard.
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Block21 Posted on 07/11/2018 19:27

Who will eventually replace Pulis?

 
Block 21 - chairman
Indeedido - DOF
Parmoboy - manager
Coluka - assistant manager
Atypical - 1st team coach
Jlinardi - scout - so we finally sign Watkins
Nobby - u23 manager - as he likes our own [^]
Hopesoboro- head of social media , as he can’t say bad word about the club in anyway. Job suits him down to the ground.

We will be promototed to the top flight and then get champions league football in no time
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JLinardi Posted on 07/11/2018 21:28

Who will eventually replace Pulis?

 
Id love to be the scout, rekon Id build a decent team [^]
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UKLL1981 Posted on 07/11/2018 21:52
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Who will eventually replace Pulis?

 
If the club had delivered even just a couple of the targets Pulis wanted in the summer I don’t think we’d even be having this conversation. I don’t think there’s many managers out there that would of acquired the points Pulis has got this year with such a mediocre bunch of pedestrian players. I hope Pulis is here next year regardless of what league we are in, Woodgate would be a disaster but that’s the sort of manager I’d expect Gibson to appoint. We might not go up this year but we will always be in contention with Pulis in charge. I don’t mind Wagner but they’ve scored one home goal this season and that was an own goal, granted it’s the prem but even we weren’t that bad under Karanka in the prem. I want success and stability over open attacking football, look at how Fulham are fairing. If you are going to play expansive open football in the prem you better have a few hundred million to spend on your keeper and defence. It’s cheaper and easier to build a team of solid grafters than a team of attacking flair and it’s more effective for a club of our size and budget.
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Block21 Posted on 07/11/2018 22:00

Who will eventually replace Pulis?

 
Get applying Jlinardi
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YouwantsomeYougotnofans Posted on 07/11/2018 23:02

Who will eventually replace Pulis?

 
Iain Dowie. [^][cr][:D]
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atypical_boro Posted on 07/11/2018 23:41

Who will eventually replace Pulis?

 
Block21 [^]

I wouldn’t let you down. Is Indeedido head of recruitment then?
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Indeedido Posted on 08/11/2018 09:40

Who will eventually replace Pulis?

 
Thank you Block 21, am touched.[:D]
I would appreciate role clarity here as I'd like to justify your faith.
There is no Chief Exec in your structure, so presuming you are very much an Exec Chairman and will cover all of the non football business (Commercial, PR, Operations)
Either way, I'd want to know what Director of Football's brief is. I would expect it includes the duties expected of a Head of Recruitment?

Corcaigh will be along shortly to tell you all you need is a Manager and a Company Secretary anyway and that pricing should be capped at a tenner per match but with season cards at twenty quid per match.

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Block21 Posted on 08/11/2018 09:56

Who will eventually replace Pulis?

 
Atypical, I reckon you could be a good link man between gaffer and players.

Indeedido, yes your role would be predominantly Recruitment. But I am the type of chairman who will want to get involved with all things football, so hopefully we can agree on targets etc [:D].
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Anton_Berg Posted on 08/11/2018 12:32

Who will eventually replace Pulis?

 
An algorithm.

'we think you'll like this player...'
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Indeedido Posted on 08/11/2018 13:00

Who will eventually replace Pulis?

 
I've often wondered if Steve Gibson posted on here Block[:D]
I'm sure we'd be similar given teams and posts.
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Block21 Posted on 08/11/2018 13:53

Who will eventually replace Pulis?

 
Indeedido [^][8)]
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uncle_rico Posted on 09/11/2018 08:02

Who will eventually replace Pulis?

 
Atypical, I believe he lives at Rockliffe. There’s a number of houses there, some of the loan players have stayed there too in the past.
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atypical_boro Posted on 09/11/2018 13:43

Who will eventually replace Pulis?

 
Ah ok, makes sense.[^]
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jonny_greenings_sock Posted on 10/11/2018 00:30

Who will eventually replace Pulis?

 
I could see us going for a Stevie G / Lampard recently retired type, but as their second job rather than another first time boss.

I could always see Gibbo going for Gary Neville.

I wonder what Gareth Southgate's next move after England will be? Let's assume he steps down after the Euros and we're sitting pretty in the Premier League. Unfinished business, lives locally, club legend, couldn't be more of Gibson's type of person, if it's not a job in the top 6 you might as well manage somewhere with a nice chairman... ?

I could also see us going for Stewart Downing [xx(]
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