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go_nads Posted on 05/11/2018 09:59
Homelessness
 
 
So, I haven't been to a big city in a few years, having a nipper has meant a few years being home based and no nights out.

Little legs is old enough for sleepovers at Granma's now so me and the other half went for a weekend in Manchester for a gig.

I know that there is a homeless issue in Middlesbrough, but although it is significantly more than it used to be, I am not so sure it is homeless more a begging issue.

I am not having a go at those that beg at all, they have their reasons and it is too complex an issue to cover in a message on here.

What I saw in Manchester though was heart breaking and disgusting. Literally hundreds milling around Piccadilly Gardens, there has always been a bit of an "edge" around there, I know, but this was unreal. How as a civilised country have we let government let the vulnerable down to this degree? lots of older people, lots clearly with mental health issues. On top of that chuggers everywhere, the stalls selling tat etc. The nice boutique shops, Harvey Nicholls et al, next to scenes of absolute poverty and despair.

I would be thoroughly ashamed to be a Manchunian, they have a bit of a Love MCR thing going on, presumably on the back of the bombing, which can only be applauded but they should be using the impetus of that to do something to help those the system is failing.

I dread to think what London must be like. We get nothing from Government up here, we have low wages, high unemployment, but we don't have vast swathes of society ignored and let down to the degree that they are in our big cities if Manchester is anything to go by.

Absolutely appalling.
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bear66 Posted on 05/11/2018 10:02

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May is committed to eradicating homelessness by . . . sometime in the future.
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Riverside_Rifle Posted on 05/11/2018 10:04

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Agree Manchester is very bad also see Birmingham and Southampton also very bad something more needs doing to help these vulnerable people
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go_nads Posted on 05/11/2018 10:09

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May can blow the smoke up our asses all she likes, but until there is extra funding for affordable housing, drug rehabilitation and support, mental health support and an end to cuts to the social care budget it will only get worse. Until there is proper taxation of the privileged nothing will change, if anything it will get worse.
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Manaboutadog Posted on 05/11/2018 10:50

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If 85% of street homeless were female they'd solve it tomorrow.
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go_nads Posted on 05/11/2018 10:57

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There were plenty of younger and older ladies sleeping rough in Manchester. I saw one lady who probably was above retirement age.

There are reasons why more men are homeless and there are reasons why women may get a bit more help to get them off the streets,

But lets not make this an issue about sex, there is enough money floating about to let the rich off from paying tax and there is enough money floating about to give the wealthy tax breaks, surely there is enough money floating about to also help the vulnerable.

How much was given to the bankers to help them out? £800 billion?

Link: Value?
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scuzzmonster1 Posted on 05/11/2018 11:03

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Been in Manchester 25 years now and never seen homelessness this bad before. Not a particularly gradual thing either - just seems to have exploded in the last few years. Spice has made the situation even more conspicuous. Our government should - but won't be - ashamed of itself.
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Manaboutadog Posted on 05/11/2018 11:06

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But hang on a minute, a fictitious 8% Gender Pay Gap seems to have a Women's Minister, Committee for Women and Equalities, cohorts of Feminist MPs, BBC, Channel 4, Feminist charities etc all creating a political will to move mountains until it is solved.

But a 70% homelessness gap shouldn't be treated as 'gendered'?

Also see: Education, Health, Justice, Parental rights etc etc


#IdentityPolitics
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jam69 Posted on 05/11/2018 11:33
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the high proportion of men i would imagine is partially down to the dreadful lack of mental health support for ex military by successive governments?
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Small_town Posted on 05/11/2018 11:51

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Why do you believe the gender pay gap to be fictitious MAOD?
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HarryVegas Posted on 05/11/2018 12:00

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Sadly it's not just Manchester. I travel for work all over the UK and it's a much-increased problem in every decent sized town and city. All the while ordinary folk close their eyes, stick their fingers in their ears and refuse to believe the scale of it, instead putting it down to professional begging. It's a real crisis, it's directly related to the Universal Credit system and it shames us all.
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go_nads Posted on 05/11/2018 12:00

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There are obviously problems on some of the issues you raise, start a thread about it.
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Ticker_Tape Posted on 05/11/2018 12:08

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Most of it is a drink or drugs problem, they aren tolerated in the place they live so have the freedom of the street.

For every numbskull who speaks fondly of their dancing drug past and to legalise all substances and how great drink and drugs are, this is the fall out.

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go_nads Posted on 05/11/2018 12:11

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That's hardly the fallout from the legalisation recreational drugs is it?

The legalisation of recreational drugs would be clean, pure drugs, people would know exactly what they are taking.

There would be tax revenue. The criminal element would cease, allowing police time to deal with far more important matters.

People have pretty much free access to illegal drugs now, if you want them, you can get them.
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Ticker_Tape Posted on 05/11/2018 12:41

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Just vaporise the dealers.
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go_nads Posted on 05/11/2018 13:08

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Whilst there is a demand for drugs, there will always be dealers. The cat is out of the hat now, sop far as recreational drugs are concerned, look at the numbers of students who admit to taking them.

We don't "vaporise" child abusers or murderers, so why would be "vaporise" people who supply something to consenting adults?

The drug laws in this country need complete overhaul. But that isn't the reason why there are so many homeless these days.
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Nero Posted on 05/11/2018 14:25

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The Conservative Government has decimated local authority funding, plus funding to other agencies who do a tremendous job. It is a national disgrace how we have so many people homeless and suffering.

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Ironops Posted on 05/11/2018 14:35

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there are so many in London, literally everywhere. because its so prevalent and seems less concentrated you lose sight of it. But there must be thousands in London
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go_nads Posted on 05/11/2018 15:02

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I had a look and they estimate around 3000 in Manchester.
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CheshireBoro Posted on 05/11/2018 15:09

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The reasons for it are pretty simple sadly, and it is this.

The current Government just do not care enough about the vulnerable in society - and that is all there is to it, in a nutshell.

You can see that, for the following reasons -

1) - Homelessness up by over 400% since the Tories came to power.
2) - Child Poverty and Destitution up by between 350% (CPAG) and 600% (JRF) since the Tories came to power.
3) - Food Bank use up by a factor of 400 in that time (thats 40,000%).

I cant think of any clearer evidence than that for the fact that this is a Government that doesnt care if you happen to be vulnerable. There are countless other examples - ie cuts to Social Care etc - but the three at the top tell the story.

If you want to reduce homelessness, destitution, extreme poverty, and Food Bank use - just never ever vote Conservative.

Simple as that.
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The_Lizards_Jumpers Posted on 05/11/2018 15:47

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If you think it's bad in the UK come to San Francisco, the most expensive, and one of the richest cities in America.

The huge contrast between rich and poor couldn't be more evident, and the lack of a safety net such as the NHS only makes the mental health and drug addiction problems worse and more evident.

Prop C is up for voting tomorrow, which will tax more heavily the tech companies who make massive wealth out of the city (instigated by Marc Benioff from Salesforce) but I doubt that will even have that much of an impact, judging by what I've seen in the 2 years I've lived here.
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go_nads Posted on 05/11/2018 15:53

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How much though do we as voters contribute by our indifference? As a country our elected representatives should have to achieve minimum standards, we do not take them to task so we are partly blame.
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TheFair86 Posted on 05/11/2018 16:20

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If only we had a load of empty buildings or houses that could be put to good use.
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Kowalski Posted on 05/11/2018 16:50

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Good post Cheshireboro. I agree with most of the OP, however,why should Mancunians be ashamed when government cuts have largely enforced the situation.
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go_nads Posted on 05/11/2018 17:04

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I’d be ashamed if it was happening in Middlesbrough, but there is little I could do about it - if you get my drift. Imagine telling friends from outside the area how brilliant your home town/city is (and Manchester is brilliant) but the first thing they see when they get off the train is a homeless crisis. There is more than enough money in Manchester to help many of the people down on their luck/bottomed out as members of society.

The term society is no longer all encompassing, there is an elite class who see themselves above society who do not contribute in any way other than to leach off the rest and there are those that have fallen out of society and find themselves homeless.

Once on the streets with an addiction, I imagine it is almost impossible to get back on your feet under the current financial constraints.
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1finny Posted on 05/11/2018 17:18

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Gonads
I visit Manchester a couple of times a month and have done for a good few years now.
That walk from Piccadilly station is just depressing and it has got significantly worse.

I usually stay in The Crowne Plaza where I can look at that ‘Cat Cafe’.
On a cold winters night you can see the cat’s up against the window probably pining to be outside....
Whilst a couple of homeless people lay in the cold outside trying to sleep with dignity

That is just wrong on every level [|)]
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go_nads Posted on 05/11/2018 17:23

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I was overwhelmed, I gave some change to a few, but where do you stop when there is that volume. Are you causing more of a problem by giving out your change knowing what is most likely going to be spent on. It’s a catch 50.
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Hapas Posted on 05/11/2018 17:35
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Homelessness

 
I believe the explosion in homelessness in Manchester in particular directly correlates with making 'Spice' illegal.

Meanwhile it is also directly funding the criminal organisations who now control the manufacture and trade of what is still called Spice, but is actually primarily made up of far more potent and cheaper chemicals.

The knock-on effect is a huge burden on the national health and emergency services.

The whole scenario is a political goldmine and someone could easily win an election off the back of it if policy promises were framed correctly.
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EpiphanyProudfoot Posted on 05/11/2018 17:35

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Tragically, many have been kicked out of the accommodation provided for them. There is obviously a mental health issue here but renty's who are providing accommodation for DHSS wont be beholden to the councils.

A guy I know (top property honcho in Darlington)says the two things that neutrals should consider are = Benefits are around £700.00 a month depending on circumstance (more if you have loads of kids) if these people have an addition or a lifestyle issue then what are they going to spend the money on?

Secondly, he had evicted many as he was not prepared to clean up after them. I would rather not say what was described to me.

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expat_smoggie Posted on 05/11/2018 17:36

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Lizards jumper — good that you brought up SF — where there’s a so called socialist government in power and have been for the past 20 or so years. In short it’s another runaway train and no amount of reasoning, money, incentives or government policies will change what we see on our inner city streets. Most big cities around the world have similar homelessness problems— even in Japan and Korea where they pride themselves on the best social programs have a growing homeless population. Companies get richer fed by the greed of the stock markets meanwhile those who elect (for whatever reason) not to jump on the gravy train get left behind. It’s that simple and that cruel.
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go_nads Posted on 05/11/2018 18:03

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I don’t think spice per se is the problem, it just happens to be the intoxicant of choice at the moment. The explosion in the homeless population has a direct correlation with the cuts to social care and mental health budgets. These people are being let down by agency after agency. I know for a fact that mental health beds are at an absolute premium with only those who are a very significant risk to others being sectioned. The police can’t keep them as they don’t have the cell space, budget or legislative instruments to keep them.

We know lots of ex servicemen are finding themselves homeless, on top of that we have those leaving the care system unable to look after themselves and then those leaving prison are fighting a losing battle to stay straight.

I am that cyclical that I bet the numbers have been crunched and a decision made to just leave people to self medicate and ultimately die than do anything to help them.
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Heam44 Posted on 05/11/2018 18:23

Homelessness

 
The best proposed solution to homelessness that I have ever seen / heard / read was this...

Build small basic structures that can house homeless people. The outside would effectively be large bill boards. The income generated from the advertising covers the cost of the shelters. The companies advertising (it may cost more than the nearest billboard) receive the prestige of helping homelessness.
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BlindBoyGrunt1 Posted on 05/11/2018 18:30

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The Spice problem in this country is such a tragedy because it is totally avoidable. Spice isn't a single drug but a combination of chemicals from dodgy Chinese labs, and to make matters worse the chemicals in Spice keep changing, along with the potency and effects.

The tragedy is that Spice was initially produced to mimic the effects of the far safer but illegal cannabis.
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hopesoboro Posted on 05/11/2018 18:31

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Manaboutadog bitching about women again![:D]
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Manaboutadog Posted on 05/11/2018 18:38

Homelessness

 
If equality's not your 'thing' then that's fine with me[^]
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Trug Posted on 05/11/2018 19:05

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The best proposed solution to homelessness that I have ever seen / heard / read was this...

"Build small basic structures that can house homeless people. The outside would effectively be large bill boards. The income generated from the advertising covers the cost of the shelters. The companies advertising (it may cost more than the nearest billboard) receive the prestige of helping homelessness."
The best solution to homelessness I have heard is that if people and companies were taxed their fair share (not just the bare minimum that they could get away with) then money could be spent on housing.
Homelessness was almost eliminated under Labour.
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go_nads Posted on 05/11/2018 21:41

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B-MAN Posted on 05/11/2018 21:42

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The last time I was in Manchester I was astonished. People were begging in every doorway during the day, I assumed they’d all disappear at night but the streets around Piccadilly had tents in every other doorway. Unbelievable really.

It’s getting like that in Leeds now, tents popping up all over, people genuinely sleeping in card board boxes on Briggate.
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norfolkred1 Posted on 05/11/2018 21:52

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I also found Norwich in decline with people sleeping rough. It's a sad state of affairs, while we give billions to overseas Countries who just seem to build their arms with our generosity and stupidity.
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go_nads Posted on 05/11/2018 21:57

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Foreign aid is not “aid”, it’s bribe money. It’s another way the rich use “our” money to make more money for themselves. Usually as you have pointed out, selling arms to these countries on the back of the “aid”.
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SilentProf Posted on 05/11/2018 22:08

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It’s a growing problem in Middlesbrough despite people thinking it’s just professional begging going on. Last time we had serious snow, I went into town with a mate at around 11:30pm and handed out hot water bottles and warm food to as many homeless people as I could find after seeing a young lad bedding down for the night in a scaffolded off area earlier in the evening. This was a weekday night with virtually nobody around to beg from and we found 8 men in various places around town. I plan to do the same thing again when I can this winter and I dare say there will be a few more based on what I’ve seen in town during the day.
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r00fie1 Posted on 05/11/2018 22:10

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This has to be the most enlightened thread for ages.[^]
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go_nads Posted on 05/11/2018 22:18

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Amazing work Silentprof. Imagine seeing that every where you looked. That was Manchester.
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SilentProf Posted on 05/11/2018 22:27

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Yeah I was there myself a couple of months ago on a stag weekend and it really put me on a downer to see so many in such high concentrations. I’d hate to be as desensitised as the locals seemed to be about it.
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go_nads Posted on 05/11/2018 23:12

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I got that feeling too, it would be hard not to, especially when it isn’t an overnight occurrence, it’s graduslly built up the past two or three years as austerity has bitten ever deeper.
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jimcrackcornIdontcare Posted on 05/11/2018 23:17

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I've lived in Manchester for 5 yrs now,

It's definitely gotten worse and getting worse

It's not right
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Borobarmy Posted on 06/11/2018 07:38
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Very illuminating reading this thread with some excellent contributions.

Here’s a thought !

There’s probably as much will and legs on this board to knock up a little group that will do such a winter round as SilentProf so kindly carried out when the time comes . Thoughts ??
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norfolkred1 Posted on 06/11/2018 07:44

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I'd be up for that. If the Government won't why don't we. No doubt there will be a law against it somewhere, H+S etc. There used to be a pub in Norwich who would ask for food for the homeless as entry for gigs.
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heaton_mersey_boro Posted on 06/11/2018 08:24

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Last year came out of work (Manchester City Centre) and there were two homeless setting themselves up for the night in the office fire escape area, shooting up.

Walked a few hundred yards, Conservative Party Conference was on at the G-Mex, hundreds of Tories milling outside drinking champers, not a care in the world. The contrast within a couple of hundred yards summed up the state of the country.

As for Picadilly Gardens.....and Chinatown [xx(][xx(]. Don't go there when its dark.......
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HarryVegas Posted on 06/11/2018 08:32

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Borobarmy excellent idea. Am already organising a gig up here in Tyneside for the local foodbank but no reason why I can't get involved in something else for those without even a roof over their heads [^]
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uncle_rico Posted on 06/11/2018 08:34

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Homelessness in the UK has been a problem for years, not just under this government, but the coalition and the labour government before that.

One of my friends is involved in a charity in London for homeless ex-servicemen. Quite frankly it’s a disgrace that in the 21at Century its still such an issue and it’s is mostly down to charities to do anything about it.
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Borobarmy Posted on 06/11/2018 08:45

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If such a fmttm group did get some inertia we could possibly ask Rob if we can borrow a line on the top of the board ( where jobs and board issues live ) so we can discuss it off the main forum . Again just a thought
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scuzzmonster1 Posted on 06/11/2018 08:57

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go_nads Posted on 05/11/2018 18:03

'I don’t think spice per se is the problem, it just happens to be the intoxicant of choice at the moment.'

This is true but, as I mentioned earlier, it does make the situation more conspicuous. The general public is used to drunkenness within the homeless community but the affect of Spice on a person can be quite startling when you witness it for the first time. They don't call it the 'Zombie Drug' for nothing and the situation can appear all the more grim for it.
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go_nads Posted on 06/11/2018 09:46

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I'd love to donate some of my time.

Scuzzmonster - yeah, the zombie state was quite distressing to see.
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PhilStampIsGod Posted on 06/11/2018 13:32

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I would also be up for donating some of my time to a group such as the one BoroBarmy has proposed [^]
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go_nads Posted on 06/11/2018 13:45

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etmfc Posted on 06/11/2018 14:47

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Me too.
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CheshireBoro Posted on 06/11/2018 15:25

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I would donate some time, and some resources - without any hesitation.

Equally, I would be more than happy to contribute towards some set up costs if we wanted to really make a difference and set something up specifically in Boro, or Teesside generally. I have set up a couple of schemes elsewhere and know how to make it happen.
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Trug Posted on 06/11/2018 18:17

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It is really good to see empathy from our fellow Boro fans and that offers of volunteering are coming in.
The best solution would be to vote out the people who allow this to happen. (and before anyone shouts "what are you doing to help?", I already volunteer in mental health, trying to prevent homelessness or looking for accommodation for those suffering from MH conditions).
I am so angry that some people would rather have a few quid a week extra in their pockets rather than help their fellow human beings
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PhilStampIsGod Posted on 06/11/2018 19:33

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Trug voting the Tories out is definitely the ideal solution but unfortunately too many people are selfish, shortsighted and believe what they read in the tabloids for it to be taken for granted that Labour will be in power any time soon.

CheshireBoro that's a really selfless offer. I've seen you mention on here before that you've been involved in food banks etc. Top bloke.
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HarryVegas Posted on 06/11/2018 20:57

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Trug I completely agree matey. However, while we may not personally be able to fix the big stuff, we can sometimes help alleviate on a smaller scale. Hate the fact that homelessness and need are even a thing in our society but while they are we can try to help in some small way. Not a dig at all to you or anyone else btw - we all just do what we can. [^]
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etmfc Posted on 06/11/2018 21:02

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CheshireBoro that would be tremendous if somebody knew how to set this up and running. How would you go about getting a base/ equipment ?. Would volunteers need to have CRB checks ?. I would imagine it isn't an easy process to set up. I could help with time, money and general helping.
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The_Lizards_Jumpers Posted on 06/11/2018 21:29

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Because I don't live in the country I wouldn't be able to offer my time, but if someone set up a way of donating cash to support this initiative then I'd be happy to throw some cash into the pot.
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Clingon33 Posted on 06/11/2018 21:45

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The large Shelter Charity shop in Sunderlands main shopping centre does a heck of a lot of good projects and is a regional hub so take your donations. The better the stuff the better the project so leave the fifteen year old printer scanner at the tip.
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Clingon33 Posted on 06/11/2018 21:47
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Don't ask why I thought a 15 year old printer scanner was a good example of tatt because I have no clue why I thought it would be. Ta.
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Clingon33 Posted on 06/11/2018 22:06

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Ps the ACE team are no longer near the bus station but the Nightstop John Paul Centre on Grange Road is hanging in.
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redwurzel Posted on 07/11/2018 01:03

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Someone has being camped out in a local park near me for several weeks, which I had never seen before in my small rural city. Something has defo happened in the last few years to increase homelessness. I don't believe its all because of spice, although that may have contributed.


I suspect making unemployed people pay some of their own housing benefit and council tax has contributed to homelessness.

Also...

Clampdown on previous moderate over charging by landlords for DSS clients.

Selling off of social housing and hardly any new social housing being added.

Fewer cheaper rental properties being available, but increased demand with wages fail to keep up with rental increases and an increase in unskilled migrants from overseas.

Increase in sanctions by DWP leaving some unemployed without any income.

Increase in unpayable personal debt.

Universal Credit introduction leading to long delays in payment and some landlords not willing to wait 12 weeks plus for overdue rent.

Taking away disability benefits from a large number of claimants through new assessments which are deliberately harsh to significant cut the numbers claiming disability benefit.

A significant % of homelessness will have medical issues (both physical and mental) and disability issues. The support networks have been reduced in recent years for these groups.

The homeless problem has probably being increasing for many years and would take many years to significantly reduce even if the real will to do something about it was there. The rhetoric from the current Government suggest they think there is not enough incentive to take on paid work hence raising statutory pay levels and raising tax allowances. This may help the working homeless, but many homeless need a different support to get them fit for work and it has to be accepted that some homeless are not able to work no matter how high the living wage is.
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BoroE17 Posted on 09/11/2018 12:15
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If anyone can help with donations for "In Out Of The Cold" in December there are details below on what is required and how to donate.


We are looking for people to donate wrapped, filled shoe boxes (or similar box) to be distributed at this year’s ‘In Out of the Cold’ event.

The event is aimed at homeless people and those suffering hardship. There is hot food, live music and lots of advice & information stalls.

We also provide shoe boxes to people attending that contain essential items such as:
•Hat & Scarf
•Gloves
•Socks
•Soap / shower gel
•Shampoo
•Deodorant
•No Razors please
•Cleansing wipes
•Long-life snack bars
•Toothbrushes/toothpaste
•Brush/comb
•Lip balm
•Tissues
•Sanitary items (females).

Please deliver boxes (labelled ‘male’ or ‘female’) to New Walk CIC - 24 Park Road North, TS1 3LF - no later than Friday 7th December 2018

For more info or alternative drop off point contact: Paul - 07970271819 or Tina - 07490156865

The event is being held on Wednesday 12th December 2018,1pm-3pm @ Middlesbrough Town Hall

The event is only made possible through the kind donations and volunteers. If you wish to volunteer at this event please contact: Paul_Robinson@middlesbrough.gov.uk
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Bruce_Rioja Posted on 09/11/2018 13:21

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Great post BoroE17, and well done on your work[^]

It is ALWAYS better to support smaller, local initiatives like yours because you know the help will be more targeted and there will be less wastage/bureaucracy.

And maybe, unlike Shelter, you don't have a CEO on £122,500 pa?
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BoroE17 Posted on 09/11/2018 13:39

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Cheers Bruce_Rioja. I can't take any credit to be honest I'm sharing it on their behalf, but you are correct. Small and local always works best [^]
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LOCOMANSIMON Posted on 09/11/2018 14:52

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I live in Whitby and homelessness is not really a problem, one lad sits in an alley all day but that is all I am aware of, I visited Manchester and London recently and was staged but the sheer number of homeless, whole tented village in the more derelict are of manchester it's just not right, the divide in our society has never been wider and the lack of compassion from our government has never been greater!
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ZippytheHippy Posted on 09/11/2018 14:57

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£14billion of foreign aid well spent.
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BoroNews Posted on 09/11/2018 15:08
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I can send my North Stand season ticket to a homeless charity or the charity of your choice as I will no longer will be attending this season .. it maybe better served if can sell on & use the funds elsewhere
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expat_smoggie Posted on 09/11/2018 16:34
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You have to wonder where it will all end — ok it’s happening in front of our own eyes but it’s not just the UK, it’s across the globe. I was shocked to see homelessness in Japan recently not to mention South Korea where the homeless take refuge in Seoul’s many train and metro stations.

I remember traveling up to Glasgow back in the 80s— I hadn’t really understood homelessness until I saw the plights of the hundreds of homeless around the inner city streets— so it’s been here a while.

Traveling to Denver one December night I got into town late around midnight. The temp had already plummeted to -20 so it was bitterly cold. Nonetheless there was still people on the streets. I noticed camp fires burning close to the financial district and a line of cardboard houses— the taxi driver said they (homeless) have no where else to go— the mission centers are crammed to capacity so the mayor lets the homeless have controlled fires along with cardboard boxes to provide some sort of insulation from the cold. The next morning the news reported (in a 5 second update) that 3 homeless were found dead on the streets that night.
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dorivasmiddlefinger Posted on 09/11/2018 22:07

Homelessness

 
Although the sentiments expressed in this thread regarding helping the homeless is admirable, there is are already well established schemes especially in Middlesbrough.

Top of my head I can think of a:
Homeless centre on princes road
St John Paul II centre
St Columbas Church car park
Muslim community run a feed the homeless scheme every week.

It’s probably accommodation, integration into regular society, substance abuse and entry into work which people need help with. Obviously difficult for your regular joes.

Saying all that however, any help would most likely be gratefully received by any recipient.

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