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Tayinloangigha Posted on 10/08/2018 22:06
Ancient Aliens.
 
 
Anyone watch Ancient Aliens?

I sometimes stick it on to help me get to sleep.

90% of it is XXXXXX. But me and the Mrs have interesting discussions about it and some of the theories.

Aliens visited us years ago,built the pyramids etc.

Were living in a simulation.

The moon is artificial,hollow,it rings,placed where it is by aliens as it's too perfect,it's a spaceship etc etc

Modern technology is just being reinvented/discovered as humans were more technologically advanced thousands of years ago.

Aliens are our future self.

Aliens/ufos are under the sea not in the skies.

Time travel exists.

Humans are not from Earth.

Aliens modified our DNA

Etc etc etc

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keykaynoway Posted on 10/08/2018 22:36

Ancient Aliens.

 
It's highly entertaining, and great fun on a saturday night with some wine and a magic cigarette or two, but badly researched and deceptive XXXXXX at the end of it. I particularly loved the part where they said "no ancient people could cut a block with such a precise right angle. It requires machined tools". They then pull out a set square against the block and it's obviously well wonky.

The main guy, Georgio Tsoukalos with the crazy hair, has no credentials beyond a batchelors in sports information and communication.

This YouTube documentary, Ancient Aliens Debunked, is a comprehensive critical look at their theories. Almost as entertaining as the show itself.

https://youtu.be/j9w-i5oZqaQ
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JMac1980 Posted on 10/08/2018 22:40

Ancient Aliens.

 
Aliens are our future self! [8D]
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JLinardi Posted on 10/08/2018 22:56

Ancient Aliens.

 
I believe our history isnt as weve been taught, not sure if aliens came and built everything or whatever but I think its plausible.

Also think the simulation theory is plausible aswell.
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dooderooni Posted on 10/08/2018 23:48

Ancient Aliens.

 
It is all horsêshît.

They basically try to denigrate the intellect and achievement of our ancestors at every turn. The fact that a lot of the theroy centres around the religious beliefs and that "the gods" were aliens and they imparted knowledge on their acolytes stinks too. Its like saying a devout Christian or Muslim couldn't make scientific or technological breakthroughs with divine intervention.
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JLinardi Posted on 11/08/2018 00:01

Ancient Aliens.

 
You say that dood but even ignoring the tv show there are plenty of those old cave drawings that look eerily similar to ufos, figures in space suits and aliens.

To think we’ve got our past nailed down and know it all is very naive imo.
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king_hellfire Posted on 11/08/2018 00:47

Ancient Aliens.

 
‘You say that dood but even ignoring the tv show there are plenty of those old cave drawings that look eerily similar to ufos, figures in space suits and aliens.’



That’s known as pareidolia.
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HolgateCorner Posted on 11/08/2018 01:08

Ancient Aliens.

 
We are all alone, there is nothing out there.
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dooderooni Posted on 11/08/2018 06:43

Ancient Aliens.

 
I'm open minded about the existence of aliens, however, the programme will attempt to link anything to alien intervention.

Imagination and intelligence are as much of the human condition as anything and imagine looking up into an ancient night sky (devoid of the light pollution we suffer) and you'll be well placed to see huge amounts of stars and "moving" objects. If you can't imagine that then just go to some of the genuinely dark places in the Lake District or Northumberland to see what our ancestors saw every night.
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zaphod Posted on 11/08/2018 09:24

Ancient Aliens.

 
It is reminiscent of the European beliefs a century ago that so-called "inferior races" couldn't possibly have built great civilisations. So you had the theory that Greater Zimbabwe must have been built by invaders, not the local tribes and the theory that the sophisticated Indus Valley civilisation must have been developed by Aryan invaders, not Indians. And we know where those racial stereotypes led us.

We need to forget all our preconceptions about ancient peoples and accept that they were highly intelligent and capable.
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trugggg Posted on 11/08/2018 09:46

Ancient Aliens.

 
I've always been interested in this since Erich van Daniken came on the scene. I agree that most of it is rubbish but some things do make me wonder.
The cube of metal found in a Polish coal mine.
The Piri Ries map of the Antarctic before it was iced over?
So many legends of ancient peoples around the world mentioning flying of some sort.
I am not saying that they are true, just that the make me think.

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BOROMAN28 Posted on 11/08/2018 10:07

Ancient Aliens.

 
Very naive to believe academias version of human history.
The pyramids alone throw a huge spanner in the works.
Architecture that uses global positioning,that also aligns with other sites across the world.
Sites in Peru,Mexico,Iraq,turkey all show advanced civilisation s lived,prospered many thousands of years ago.
So 5000years+ before our Dark ages
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foomanboro Posted on 11/08/2018 10:15

Ancient Aliens.

 
Aren’t most of these just plots to movies?

Aliens built pyramids = Alien vs Predator
We live in a simulation = The Matrix
Aliens modified our DNA = Prometheus
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BOROMAN28 Posted on 11/08/2018 10:22

Ancient Aliens.

 
The idea was there long time before the movie
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Ticker_Tape Posted on 11/08/2018 10:23
Edited On: 11/08/2018 10:28
Ancient Aliens.

 
Prefer the new Geometric theory of consciousness and Quantum gravity.

The latest craze and makes a lot of sense, a few explanation vids on you tube and worth a watch.

Emergence theory.
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SNICKERS Posted on 11/08/2018 10:26

Ancient Aliens.

 
Few space cadets on here like !
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SNICKERS Posted on 11/08/2018 10:28

Ancient Aliens.

 
space cadet ......is not necessarily a person of low intelligence or a heavy drug user, but rather one who is so easily lost in reverie that he or she loses all awareness of the surrounding physical world.
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thorgill Posted on 11/08/2018 10:33

Ancient Aliens.

 
So if a more technological civilisation occupied eart centuries ago why has nobody discovered houses with sky dishes near the ancient ruins in Peru[cr][:O]
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BOROMAN28 Posted on 11/08/2018 11:01

Ancient Aliens.

 
Maybe you need to ask yourself why we took this path of civilisation,sky dishes,fossil fuels,consumerism.
There are countless ways we could of took this world in,the fat cats hijacked this world over 150 years ago,bankers and corporations run EVERYTHING!
Most people find it impossible to even entertain the possibility of anything being true unless they see it on the BBC or read it in the msm.
Once you step outside and realise everything you know and we're taught is to further their agenda
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foomanboro Posted on 11/08/2018 11:03
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Ancient Aliens.

 
You are right BOROMAN28.

They were not it sci movies first. They were in Sci Fi novels.
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DowningAlbion Posted on 11/08/2018 11:32

Ancient Aliens.

 
None of it is plausible. It has all been easily debunked by SCIENCE

Through science, I understand how and why humans have been able to create technological civilisations and dominate nature. It has nothing to do with Aliens, as we are completely alone

I am very lucky that as a working class boy, I was able to get a free high quality education at a traditional university, and beyond to post-grad level, and as a result I am not prone to stoner conspiracy theories. Education is the answer, there is no mass conspiracy
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JLinardi Posted on 11/08/2018 11:46

Ancient Aliens.

 
Can’t agree with any of that downing Albion, to assume we’re conpletely alone is just ridiculous with the amount of planets in the universe even the law of averages suggest there will be thousands of others holding life.

If you don’t think there’s a mass conspiracy I suggest you start looking at where and why oil started dominating, pharmaceutical industry, sugar industry paying scientists for favourable studies years ago, military industrial complex, operation north woods.

That’s before you get to the more juicy stuff.
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DowningAlbion Posted on 11/08/2018 12:03

Ancient Aliens.

 
There will be other planets with basic bacteria, maybe the odd very rare one that has evolved multi-celled life forms, but no other "technological civilisations". There is absolutely no evidence of any other civilisations out there. No evidence whatsoever. Just conspiracy theories from drug casualties

The assumption that humans are at the pinnacle of an evolutionary hierarchy that will repeat everywhere life evolves to inevitably create a technological civilisation is false. We are a very unique species even for Earth!

A mostly bald chimpanzee that is born 12 months before it should be (based on brain size and gestation period) and develops neurologically at a very slow rate to extend immaturity and learning over a vast part of it's lifespan (relative to all other primates)

There are political conspiracies of course, but there is no mass conspiracy, this is not The Matrix
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Chappy112 Posted on 11/08/2018 12:05

Ancient Aliens.

 
I’m not sure about Aliens but I certainly wouldn’t rule it out. I think I lean more towards us having an extremely advanced civilisation at some point and then it got wiped out and we had to start again.

Maybe by a natural disaster.
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JLinardi Posted on 11/08/2018 12:27

Ancient Aliens.

 
By what you say about chimps Albion could that not support the theory that some other dna was mixed with theirs?

Your just making traditional assumptions ‘probably a few planets with bacteria’, when in reality I could say there are thousands of planets full off intelligent life and it is just as relevant as there is so much in the universe that we don’t know about. As I said in just our galaxy alone there will be thousands of planets capable of life, maybe our part of the galaxy being so empty is the anomaly. In fact I bet we will find some kind of life on mars eventually, already found evidence of liquid water under its South Pole ice.

Also what about the universe appearing to have a mathematical computer like code in its make up?

The double slit experiment where particles of light appear to know when they are being observed and change how they act?

Sit there all you want and call me a stoner but there are people far more intelligent than me coming out with the same theories, and tbh to sit there and act like we know everything about what’s really going on is totally naive.
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Northoftheriver Posted on 11/08/2018 12:33

Ancient Aliens.

 
I once heard someone say we don't know anything as an absolute fact until we do. I know that sounds simplistic but it is true.
We don't know whether there is (or was) intelligent life somewhere out there and we never will unless we get absolute proof that there is. Speculating and hypothesising is all well and good but until we find it we will never know for sure. As long as we don't find it (or it find us) then nothing is proven.
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Moreno Posted on 11/08/2018 12:38

Ancient Aliens.

 
We might be the only planet with life in our solar system but I think it would be naive to think there's nothing else out there. We presume an alien race would be more advanced than ourselves but perhaps they are not so have no method of space travel. Or perhaps they have observed us for thousands of years and see all we do is fight one another. Would you really want to make contact? I guarentee there would be hysteria and it wouldn't end well.
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BOROMAN28 Posted on 11/08/2018 12:38

Ancient Aliens.

 
Jlinardi,totally on the same page.
There is millions of pieces of evidence for previous civilisation ,mainstream academia suppress,deny and actively discrimate against any leaning away from the party line.
To dismiss evidence of ufos is frankly ridiculous.
The us government recently admitted they've spent millions on the subject.
The reality is you are not going to change some of these lads minds,they will resort to ,stoner,tin foil brigade...etc
Glad to see a few have their eyes open
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DowningAlbion Posted on 11/08/2018 12:40
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Ancient Aliens.

 
I'm not sitting here knowing it all. I trust the scientific method, I know about theories of computer simulations etc

The double-slit experiment is well understood. Within quantum mechanics the act of observation causes coalescence, i.e the probabilistic quantum wave function collapses into an actual measurable state. Many things can cause this coalescence, it just happens that observation is one of them

But the particles do not "know" they are being observed as if they were conscious, they are just particles and it is all accurately predicted by the science of quantum mechanics

We have a common ancestor with chimps but nothing was "injected into our DNA", we just had evolutionary pressure to move from trees onto the Savannah and be more upright. It is all explained by human developmental evolution, no Aliens necessary
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JLinardi Posted on 11/08/2018 12:47

Ancient Aliens.

 
Exactly boroman and the big one I forgot to mention is the pentagon themselves released a video a few months back from one of their jets tracking a ufo, you can hear the pilots trying to work out what it is.

The whole attitude towards aliens in the media is changing and becoming more open, I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s all planned to finally reveal the true evidence/knowledge.

Link: UFO
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Vena Posted on 11/08/2018 13:08

Ancient Aliens.

 
The show is what it is harmless crap with zero credibility however if you are interested in some of the talking points or theories this show serves a great starting point. If you research a bit it get a little less fantasy but no less facinating.

Some of the lost civilisations stuff is mad [:O], look up Robert schoch or Michael schermer for some credible theories with convincing evidence,

Just as interesting (maybe a little harder to digest)
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Dibzzz Posted on 11/08/2018 13:18

Ancient Aliens.

 
It's hysterical.

Especially when he says.

"Ancient Alien theorists say yes"

Every five minutes.[cr]

And that bloke with the slap head and massive hair, what a whopper.[:D]

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BOROMAN28 Posted on 11/08/2018 13:20

Ancient Aliens.

 
Try America bc
Guy up top mentioned the Piri Reis map from the 15th century showing Antarctic without the ice...which is impossible seeing as main stream academia will tell you it's been under miles of ice since the last ice age.
So who mapped it?
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