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footyteam Posted on 10/08/2018 14:51
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---Transfers/Financial---

I'll take this over the last few years as it's all relevant, for the last few years we've had a rigid wage structure, I believe Bausor referred to this at the time. Bigger signings possibly had a signing on bonus (valdes, instead of having to pay a transfer).

There's a group of individual agents who work for an agency who we will not deal with, if a player has them, we won't be talking to that player.

I know the last 4 windows have been underwhelming at times and often worrying, but lets face it, in 2011 it was Celtic cast offs.

We're in a stable financial period and we'll be challenging the top 6, we've still got the loan system to work for us as well.

---Players/squad---

The exodus of probably our best 3 players on paper, plus Besic has probably overshadowed the overall quality of our squad. We've got three very bright talents coming through that we haven't seen in a number of years, Downing still has the ability to create (massive fingers crossed) and three very good midfielders in Howson, Mcnair and Braithwate (let him stay, let him stay!)

We're thin at the back, but there's goals there as we've seen, and I've got more than enough confidence in our keepers.

Full back cover, creativity behind a striker and a winger on loan would see us challenege imo.

Longterm, we do need a defensive midfielder, Clayton on game can break plays up, but slows us down when we could be breaking, I've love to see Besic in there instead. Who knows, maybe that can still happen
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whinneybanksaint Posted on 10/08/2018 19:15

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Great post well said [^]
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TrappaTony Posted on 10/08/2018 19:42

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One thing about the current situation that pleases me - we have a very good manager and hopefully the players he wants will be recruited soon and we will look a very good bet for promotion.

As he says we need 100% positive and passion support tomorrow and if that happens we will win comfortably because that Boro team on the pitch tomorrow will have enough quality to win this game UTB
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hopesoboro Posted on 10/08/2018 19:47

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Mind, Clayton had a cracking game Tuesday.
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youngy228 Posted on 10/08/2018 19:53

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The worry for me is strength in depth in positions. Our first 11 (playing the right way) is amongst the best in league - certainly top 6!

I'd play 3-5-2

Randolph - As good as any keeper in the league on his day (occasional error but occasional brilliance)

Fry - Up and coming talent who will get better with experience
Flint - Scores from set pieces and a proven defender at this level
Ayala - As good a defender in this league (when fit)

Clayton - Sits in front of defence and drops back into it when needed - no better player in league at doing that role (exposed when going forward - so play him to his strengths)
McNair - Powerful in the centre of midfield (needs chance to prove himself over a run of games
Howson - Good work rate in centre (needs to prove his worth this season but has shown glimpses)

Braithwaite - If he wants to play he could be one of top players in league
Downing - Lacks a bit of pace but still has some quality at this level

Assombalonga - Good striker (Pulis needs to do to him what he did to Adama)
Hugill - Solid strike (wants to be here and will run through a wall for us - i think!)

Bench

Dimi
Shotton
Friend
Wing
Tavernier
Chapman
Leadbitter
Fletcher
Gestede

Bench has some experience mixed with a bit of youth - not necessarily the best bench in league but its not the worst either.



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jeff_potato Posted on 10/08/2018 19:59

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It's not a time to panic and lots of teams need a good creative player. Good post.

A good thing about this league is that your squad doesn't need to be able to beat the best opponents who have spent the most. When Watford and Bournemouth beat us to automatic spots it was losses to Sheffield Wed, Leeds and Bristol that cost us. I think that Pulis can set us up get past those teams and then the focus can be top 2, not top 6.
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Alvez_48 Posted on 10/08/2018 19:59

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It's so much easier saying this after 4 points from 2 games.

Fact is we have no recognised right winger in the squad.

We have at a stretch 2 full back. We also are carrying the wages of several senior players that are earning but unable to produce consistently.

The bright spark is the youth and the thought that maybe just maybe we pull off what would be a historic promotion if we managed to do it boro vs the world style.

We are unbalanced and 2 injuries away from an emergency. Pulis knows it and most of the realists know it.
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American_Mary Posted on 10/08/2018 20:15

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A fair summing up in my opinion, Iím also a great believer that Pulis will create a unit that is greater than the sum of its parts and will find ways, like Millwall, of getting points on our off days, our set piece threat should not be underestimated and the right signings on loan can give us another creative dimension we currently lack.
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footyteam Posted on 10/08/2018 21:43

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Alvez - my summery is trying to show we're in good hands (yes theyll make mistakes) and we can continue to have big winning seasons. There's was times under strachan that i thought it would never happen again.

Challenging in the premier league is in the past sadly but it doesnt mean we have nothing to turn up for. If we do go up I believe We've got a good manager in TP to keep us there.
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Alvez_48 Posted on 10/08/2018 21:48

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Fair enough. Well my summary brings just a little more realism to the current situation rather than long term and also we aren't in good hands when it comes to Bausor, Bevington and Gill that's been proven patently false.

Aaand as I type, Byram has gone to forest on loan.
We miss out again.
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gizasqueezemister Posted on 10/08/2018 22:02

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All to play for....
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sheriff_john_bunnell Posted on 10/08/2018 22:36

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my assessment is that we really need to sign some wingers on loan otherwise we're XXXXXXed.
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zaphod Posted on 10/08/2018 22:39

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I don't get this obsession with "wingers". It's not 1960, you know.
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Paul66 Posted on 10/08/2018 22:51

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"A fair summing up in my opinion, Iím also a great believer that Pulis will create a unit that is greater than the sum of its parts and will find ways, like Millwall, of getting points on our off days, our set piece threat should not be underestimated and the right signings on loan can give us another creative dimension we currently lack."

+1
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sheriff_john_bunnell Posted on 10/08/2018 23:19

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I was at millwall zaphod and watched Friend and dear god Shotton pretty much played as wingbacks with little or no help. Wingers, inside forwards, wide players, whatever you want to call them we need them.
At the minute the squad is very reminiscent of strachans Scottish abomination.
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T_A_D Posted on 10/08/2018 23:44

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"At the minute the squad is very reminiscent of strachans Scottish abomination."

Come on, it's better individually that that. And Pulis will get more out of them than Strachan did with his.

I don't think the squad (not 1st 11) is strong enough to finish in the top two (and please do feel feel to hoof this if we run away with the league) and I think it is weaker (atm) than the squad we finished last season with.

If we have a few injuries to forward players and/or Braithwaite leaves and we don't bring in replacements on loan it might be a struggle.

As the squad stands if Pulis gets us up that would be a hell of an achievement.
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American_Mary Posted on 10/08/2018 23:50

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I donít think our squad is worse than the Cardiff one which got promoted last season. Individually we may look worse but collectively I think weíll have a system that will succeed.
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JLinardi Posted on 10/08/2018 23:59

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If you analyse the sheff Utd game, ignore the goals and look at the game play (which I think is more important at this stage of the season), while we dominated them virtually all over the pitch we were still very sloppy in possession.

Flint looked so panicky hoofing anything that came near him.

Pulis was going off it at Clayton a few times for not turning with the ball and choosing to go back to a defender.

Shotton, friend and fry played to many aimless hoods that even Traore wouldnít have got to.

Also when we switched back to 433 we looked poor and sheff Utd after bringing on Woodburn and Duffy caused us problems, the game could very easily have finished 3-2 and been a lot less convincing.

Add that to the battering we got at Millwall Iím still not convinced.
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hopesoboro Posted on 11/08/2018 01:09

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See your point there JLinardi.... well 4 points actually![:D]
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bumface Posted on 11/08/2018 04:10

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I think that I agree with all of the OP apart from the bit about Clayton. His performance on Tuesday proved that he's still up to that role and probably better at it than most midfielders in the division.

We certainly need to identify better loan or loan to buy deals than last year though. No point in any more Baker or Harrison type deals if they're never going to make it in to the squad. Really looking forward to seeing Chapman, Wing and Tavernier kicking on and Fry cementing himself as Gibson's replacement.
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streetwise Posted on 11/08/2018 06:51

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Accurate assessment by OP.

Loans needed quickly before we slip away. Certainly class needed in striking position but Fulham did it last December window (thanks to Newcastle).
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UKLL1981 Posted on 11/08/2018 08:08
Edited On: 11/08/2018 08:10
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The team will be knackered by Xmas after the cup games, injuries and suspensions. We were always going to hit the ground running given the preseason but itís sustaining it over a long tiring season. We had a brilliant chance to get promoted, generated a lot of money to reinvest and improve but Pulis is right, the team is weaker than the team that played Villa in the playoffs. This is the last year of parachute payments too and the last year of Pulis being here, a manager who could given the backing get us promoted and keep us there. We havenít even got backup Fullbacks or a starting RW. Club has massively messed up.
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hopesoboro Posted on 11/08/2018 08:15

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Not like you to be negative UKLL1981![:D]
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American_Mary Posted on 11/08/2018 08:36

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Donít think UKLL1981 is being too negative, I think he has a fair point in that we are a light in certain areas, hopefully we can alleviate that and give Pulis the players he feels we need to earn promotion, I personally think we have a core of players that can challenge but injuries and suspensions could take their toll, so 2 or 3 good loan signings are essential to bulk out our squad.
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hopesoboro Posted on 11/08/2018 08:41

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I think you're a tad too forgiving AM.
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American_Mary Posted on 11/08/2018 08:47

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Perhaps Hopeso but I always try and think the best of people rather then the worst
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hopesoboro Posted on 11/08/2018 08:48

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[:D]
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Anton_Berg Posted on 11/08/2018 09:54

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'Wingers, inside forwards, wide players, whatever you want to call them'

Inside forwards?

At Millwall, I was vexed by the way the ball kept going to Shotton on the right wing, but I'm coming round to Zaphod's view that Shotton is actually doing ok. We just don't want to believe it.
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