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jayjayb Posted on 12/07/2018 08:07
Edited On: 12/07/2018 08:11Gareth Southgate will manage one of the big clubs
 
 
He will go on to manage someone like Manchester United, arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool, Spurs or Man City. One of the big English clubs. When was the last time any of those clubs had an English manager?

He has got everything needed to be a huge success and he deserves everything he achieves.

You look at the way he carries himself, the way he treats everyone with respect and dignity, the way in which he creates such a wonderful team spirit and the fantastic connection he has with fans. Then you consider his style of football. Brilliant. None of this tippy tappy passing and keeping possession for the sake of it. No, Southgate likes to play football the right way, passing the ball from the back and taking chances but always looking to create chances and pass the ball forward. He is going to have a great career.

Monsieur Wenger knows a top class manager when he see's one and he said from the start that Southgate was something special. Also, when you have a sourpuss like Roy Keane drooling over you then you know you are a bit special. The respect he has within in the game is ridiculous and to add to that the fans and the press also love him! Legend!

Lets hope he remembers us and eventually returns some day because I would love to have him in charge of us again.
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MiniShotton Posted on 12/07/2018 08:09

Gareth Southgate will manage one of the big clubs

 
I highly doubt it.
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jayjayb Posted on 12/07/2018 08:10

Gareth Southgate will manage one of the big clubs

 
I am not saying it will be his next job but he will definitely 100% manage one of the big boys. He has everything needed to be a world class club manager. I actually think he will excel even more in club football especially if he has better players to work with.
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superstu Posted on 12/07/2018 08:16

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Think he'd do much better now than when he was with us. Managing a big club would be a big challenge though as he wouldn't be able to avoid having older, big ego players in the squad.
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jayjayb Posted on 12/07/2018 08:22

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It is all about developing a reputation and becoming a big personality yourself. When he managed us he was just seen as one of the lads. He went from team mate to manager and this meant he must have struggled to assert any authority during difficult situations or periods.

He then went away and worked with the youth players at England, many of which were in this current squad. Those youth players will have looked up to him as an ex England international and now, even as established international and Premier League footballers, they still have that same respect.

His stock has definitely risen and I can see him having another run at the World Cup in four years time, after which he will probably get a job with a top 10 PL side. His reputation, in all probability will have grown even more by then and he will command the respect of the players. Should he be a success at his first league club after international management then one of the big boys will come calling and he will have no problem dealing with world class player this time around.
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1finny Posted on 12/07/2018 08:24

Gareth Southgate will manage one of the big clubs

 
No way
We’ve just been beaten by a team with a population of just over 4m.
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jayjayb Posted on 12/07/2018 08:27

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Very very good side. Kept the ball better than any team I have seen at the world cup and their workrate is immense. Most of their players play for top clubs in Europe. Very underrated. I hope they win it.
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Stigmata Posted on 12/07/2018 08:38

Gareth Southgate will manage one of the big clubs

 
Not bothered who wins it now but I think France willl do it.
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Pogatetz_Ate_My_Hamster_ Posted on 12/07/2018 08:51

Gareth Southgate will manage one of the big clubs

 
Of course he won’t[:D]

See Chris Coleman.
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1finny Posted on 12/07/2018 08:53

Gareth Southgate will manage one of the big clubs

 
And
Big teams (top 10)
Would normally want to rely on something more than set pieces for goals against decent (not great) sides
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redlips Posted on 12/07/2018 08:58

Gareth Southgate will manage one of the big clubs

 
Jurgen Klinsman got the Bayern gig for a season before being sussed out.

He might get a big job for a year.
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jayjayb Posted on 12/07/2018 08:59

Gareth Southgate will manage one of the big clubs

 
Your opinion is irrelevant Pog because you clearly have an agenda.
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jayjayb Posted on 12/07/2018 09:02
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I agree with you 1finny but he has just guided an average group of players to the semi finals of the world cup and, with a bit more luck and a clinical side to us, would have been in the final. Nothing wrong with being the best you can possibly be when it comes to set pieces. That should not be used as a negative but as a massive positive as it shows you professional and thorough he is in his preparations and training.

He will do even better in club management because he could fix the one thing that was holding us back in this tournament. A top class creative playmaker in the middle of the pitch. He might just get one for the next tournament though with the emergence of Lewis Cook who is destined to be top class.
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Funky_Chicken Posted on 12/07/2018 09:12

Gareth Southgate will manage one of the big clubs

 
“Southgate will go on to manage one of the big clubs”
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Pogatetz_Ate_My_Hamster_ Posted on 12/07/2018 09:13

Gareth Southgate will manage one of the big clubs

 
“Your opinion is irrelevant Pog because you clearly have an agenda.”

If that agenda is understanding football you’re right.
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jayjayb Posted on 12/07/2018 09:19

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You clearly have no idea whatsoever and I think deep down you know it. I can't take anyone seriously who forms an opinion then has no inclination to change it whatever happens. It is the height of stupidity.
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jayjayb Posted on 12/07/2018 09:21

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Also, you know you are in the wrong camp when Mr Chicken agrees with you.

Much appreciated you silly clucker! Thanks for your help.
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Funky_Chicken Posted on 12/07/2018 09:25

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He’s mamsged one premier league club and got them relegated an you think that’ll get him a job at at top club - don’t think so mate [8)]



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atypical_boro Posted on 12/07/2018 09:27

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I don't think he will. Had we won it, maybe.
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jayjayb Posted on 12/07/2018 09:29

Gareth Southgate will manage one of the big clubs

 
Yes you silly clucker, because a managers first job in the game defines their whole career doesn't it? Come on, engage brain please.
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jayjayb Posted on 12/07/2018 09:30

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First tournament for him atypical. Went beyond expectations in this one with a young inexperienced team. With the players we have coming through we will be real contenders for the Euro's. I cannot wait!
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atypical_boro Posted on 12/07/2018 09:35

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We went a bit beyond expectation. If you'd told me at the start we'd get Sweden in the quarters, I'd have expected to make the semis though.

Ultimately we came up short against the first really decent team we faced, which is all too familiar.

What he DID get right was not messing up the group or losing to a minnow like recent managers have. He deserves genuine credit for that.
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Funky_Chicken Posted on 12/07/2018 09:37

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He might get a job with a club like Southampton or some other lower expectations prem side but not a top six club - he’d have to prove himself first before any of those would even consider him a candidate. Managing a national side is a totally different kettle of fish to running a league team



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atypical_boro Posted on 12/07/2018 09:39

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Yeah, I'd be absolutely gobsmacked if he was offered a job at the big 6 TBF.
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jayjayb Posted on 12/07/2018 09:48

Gareth Southgate will manage one of the big clubs

 
I also think that this squad of players is probably, at the moment, the least talented in terms of individual ability that we have had for quite some time.

It is remarkable how we have stuck to a system and a way of playing even through difficult spells. To do that, with a group of such young, inexperienced players tells me all I need to know about Southgate as a manager.

People say we never beat anyone but we overcame Colombia who had recently beaten France away from home and dominated Sweden who finished ahead of Holland in their qualifying group and topped their world cup group ahead of Germany and who had also beaten Italy in a playoff to get to the world cup itself. For the first half yesterday we outplayed a very very good Croatia team. Absolutely no way we should be saying we were lucky.

Two things stopped us winning this world cup in my opinion. A lack of experience on the pitch when it really mattered and a top class playmaker in the middle of the pitch to keep the ball and dictate the game. If we had Modric playing for us yesterday we would have won comfortably.

This is just the start for Southgate and this team. they will all improve as players and as a collective unit. Great times ahead.
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jayjayb Posted on 12/07/2018 09:49

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I did say he would have to prove himself with a mid table/fringe top 6 club before landing a job at one of the big boys to be fair.
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Funky_Chicken Posted on 12/07/2018 09:54

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How are they going to improve if they do have much individual ability, is Southgate going to wave a magic wand or something. Your statement doesn’t make much sense really. If we’d met Croatia in the first knock out game we’d have been out then an there wouldn’t be the hysteria about how well Southgate has done now. Be honest, England are a pretty ordinary side with a pretty ordinary manager


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jayjayb Posted on 12/07/2018 09:56

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You don't think young players improve? Best comment you have made yet that you silly clucker!
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TheFair86 Posted on 12/07/2018 10:01

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Average group of players? Are there many in the england squad you could buy for under £20m?

We have a very tallented squad, trouble we’ve always had is gelling as a team at international level.

He left subs til too late, rashford should have played sooner. Raheem sterling terrible, dele Alli persisted with despite being a passenger, kane supposedly played through injury etc

Our best result in ages but very unlikely we would have a run in of results like that again, can’t see us beating Brazil like Belgium did so coming second in group flattered us really.

Still think he would struggle at club level, it’s very different from picking the top internationals of a nation and he didn’t have the best time of buying/selling with us
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jayjayb Posted on 12/07/2018 10:05

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Forget about their potential price tags. English players have always been well overpriced. Thats always going to be the case.

They are currently an average set of players but with good potential. this was the reason why nobody had any expectations before the tournament.
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rob_fmttm Posted on 12/07/2018 10:08

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He's doing the biggest job of all and doing it well.
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AndyD13 Posted on 12/07/2018 10:13

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"Forget about their potential price tags. English players have always been well overpriced. Thats always going to be the case."

Absolutely. They ARE an average set of players. I don't think any of them would get in the French side. A fit Kane might do, but that's it.
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Funky_Chicken Posted on 12/07/2018 10:14

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You said they were the least talented with individual ability - you either have it or you don’t. They might improve a bit yes but if you ain’t got that touch of class it’s just not going to happen. Let’s see what happens in the Euros ( if we qualify )



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gravy173 Posted on 12/07/2018 10:18

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No chance, the top 6 wouldn't touch someone who isn't either a big name or has done a stellar job with another premiership team.

Personally I don't think he has improved that much with his in game management since his days at the boro, he always was intelligent and knew what to say and how to get the fans on side - that's nothing new.
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jayjayb Posted on 12/07/2018 10:22

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Rob, I agree, the biggest job in world football and he has handled himself magnificently throughout and produced a young team that has got to the semi-finals. Superb achievement.
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jayjayb Posted on 12/07/2018 10:24

Gareth Southgate will manage one of the big clubs

 
You silly clucker. You can't honestly believe that. Engage brain and try again please. You must be winding me up.
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jayjayb Posted on 12/07/2018 10:25

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He has done a great job with England gravy. he will be national manager until after the next world cup and then I said he would probably get a club on the fringes of top 6. I did not say he would walk straight into a top 6 job. Well, he might if we win the euro's or the next World Cup.
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Funky_Chicken Posted on 12/07/2018 10:35

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His choice of substitutions were awful last night - he really hasn’t improved much in terms of game plan at all. Totally outthought by his opposite number last night



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jayjayb Posted on 12/07/2018 10:40

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Rose for Young was bang on.

I would not have taken Sterling off.

I would have chosen Delph for Henderson instead of Dier.

And I would have taken Kane off for Vardy after an hour cos he was clearly not fit.

Were they awful subs? No. I can see his thinking in all of them but they were a little safe in my opinion. Last night was the first time I think Southgate and the team had negative thoughts. Maybe it was the enormity of the occasion and i won't knock them for that being so young.
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gravy173 Posted on 12/07/2018 10:43

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Dele Alli should have been subbed off in the first game as he was clearly not fit in the second half following his knock just before half time yet he was not and it nearly cost us the three points as it really was like playing with 10 men.
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jayjayb Posted on 12/07/2018 10:47

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I agree gravy. I have commented exactly that on another thread. Both him and Kane looked shot to pieces in this game. Ali has looked unfit all tournament. It was no surprise that Croatia had most of their success down our left. Ali and Lingard had too much ground to cover. they had to be compact to combat Croatias three in midfield and and then sprint out wide to close their full backs down who ran into the space vacated by their wide men coming inside.
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Derek_Duvall Posted on 12/07/2018 11:00

Gareth Southgate will manage one of the big clubs

 
No he won't. Same was said on here about Karanka. He won't either.
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upthechels Posted on 12/07/2018 11:03

Gareth Southgate will manage one of the big clubs

 
Average manager at best.

Top bloke though.

He's the nephew of my aunt [^]
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jayjayb Posted on 12/07/2018 11:03

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I never said it about Karanka.
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FlarPhone_Warehouse Posted on 12/07/2018 11:11

Gareth Southgate will manage one of the big clubs

 
"He has got everything needed to be a huge success "

Apart from any clue whatsoever on how to change things when things don't go to plan.

Didn't have a plan b at Boro and didn't have one last night, apart from chuck on Rashford because he runs fast
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jayjayb Posted on 12/07/2018 11:14

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Nonsense. He turned things around for us in the Colombia game after they scored. It will have taken some doing to get such a young, inexperienced group of players back on track in extra time after conceding such a late goal.

As for Rashford, I can see why he made that change. He is a similar type of player to Sterling who had clearly ran out of steam and was not making those runs into the channels. I may have been tempted with Vardy but he had been out with a calf strain or something so maybe did not want to risk him too soon.
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Funky_Chicken Posted on 12/07/2018 11:15

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We lost - did his subs have any positive effect - no. In fact they made us worse, we were impotent as an attacking force as soon as Sterling went off. Poor poor management



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Alan_Breck Posted on 12/07/2018 11:17

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Southgate has already managed one of the big clubs in the Premier League, the Mighty Boro, and look where that got us. Nice guy, great captain but perhaps doesn't have the necessary hard-nosed qualities to succeed that successful managers seem to have.

#UTB
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FlarPhone_Warehouse Posted on 12/07/2018 11:18

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Rashford is nothing at all like Sterling - are you on a wind up?
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bear66 Posted on 12/07/2018 11:20

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Overall he has done more than anyone would have expected, but Columbia looked the most likely to win after they equalised so not much turning around there.

Sweden was a very professional performance from beginning to end.

Last night, the effective Sterling running the channels seemed to have been moved into a deeper midfield position after half time. He didn't run out of steam, he'd stopped being used.

The first half last night was as good as England have played over the last 6 weeks, but there was more to the change at half time than Croatian moving Rebic and pressing further forward.
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jayjayb Posted on 12/07/2018 11:20

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More silliness from the silly clucker. Do you think the subs were the reason Croatia outplayed us second half or do you think that they just improved a lot?

I will point you in the direction of some of their previous performances as a barometer of how they can blow hot and cold. They just improved a lot and we looked tired. The way they kept the ball and moved it round the pitch in the second half was a joy to behold even if it was against us. World class players with vast amounts of experience at the highest level.

But yeah, you are right, it had nothing to do with them, it was our subs! Dear me.
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jayjayb Posted on 12/07/2018 11:23

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Rashford is nothing like Sterling? Apart from they are quick, can run the channels, have high workrate, can beat a man and can drop into midfield.

Yeah, you are right. Totally different players. Not one similarity!
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redwurzel Posted on 12/07/2018 11:36

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Managing in the Premiership is more pressure that the England manager's job. Its also a lot more work. I think the England job suits Gareth, because it gives him time to think. He also has the right image for the England job. In the England job you have the media on your back, but no Chairman to deal with. In the England job you don't need to deal with agents or get involved in transfers. Nowadays you are sometimes picking players who are only subs for teams so are fresh.
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jayjayb Posted on 12/07/2018 11:46

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I can't agree with that. England manager is the most pressurised job in world football. I would also say that modern managers have little or no contact with agents or dealing with transfers.

His image is perfect for the England job though but surely every club in the world would want someone as respected and admired as much as Southgate currently is wouldn't they?
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FlarPhone_Warehouse Posted on 12/07/2018 11:48

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"Apart from they are quick, can run the channels, have high workrate, can beat a man and can drop into midfield"

Don't forget they are both black. [rle]

Positionally they are completely different players
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atypical_boro Posted on 12/07/2018 11:48

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"surely every club in the world would want someone as respected and admired as much as Southgate currently is wouldn't they?"

Do you honestly think he could deal with the Real Madrid crowd waving the white hankies?
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Doppelganger Posted on 12/07/2018 11:52
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And I reckon if Boro get to the FA Cup semi next season by beating League One and below teams Pulis should get the Barca job.

FFS.

We played average, and beat poor to average teams. Losing to Belgium got us to the semis. If we had played Brazil, Argentina, Spain and possibly Portugal or Uruguay we would have been home earlier. Croatia were the first good team we played (not that good France will batter them) and we were totally outplayed and outclassed from the second half onwards.
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marsked_magician Posted on 12/07/2018 11:53

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Let's all settle down shall we. He won't manage one of the top 6. Come on now. Pog has a point. Everyone said Coleman was gunna walk into any job he wanted after the Euros. That was 2 years ago and now he's in China.

It would be wise for Gareth to stay in that job for as long as humanly possible, because in all likelihood it would all be downhill from there.
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atypical_boro Posted on 12/07/2018 11:54

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Actually agree with that MM.
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jayjayb Posted on 12/07/2018 11:55

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You said they were totally different players. They aren't.

Now you change your mind and say they are "positionally" totally different players.
They aren't but at least i can sort of see where you might be coming from with that one although both can play up top, in behind a striker or wide maybe Sterling takes up slightly different starting positions than Rashford but not totally different.
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glover_elbow Posted on 12/07/2018 11:55

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Rashford played like Ashley Fletcher. Subs had a really negative effect. Lofus cheek should have come on in fact I would have took ali off a lot earlier. Lingard rashford and ali were awful we don't have the quality in midfield of Croatia we are miles away from that standard. We all hustle and bustle where they had modric who looked like he could play for another 3 hours in the same style.
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Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 12/07/2018 11:59

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I hope it's Man Utd, we might have a repeat of the 73/74 season.
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jayjayb Posted on 12/07/2018 12:08

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I have to agree with glover. We simply did not have good enough players to compete with players like Modric, Rakitic and Persisic over the full 90 minutes. They are absolutely top class players with boatloads of experience. It was always going to be tough but we almost managed to pull it off.
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go_nads Posted on 12/07/2018 12:13

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Don't think Southgate has the right attributes to manage top players when it comes to their motives and bread and butter earnings.

He isn't cynical enough for starters. He is quite naïve when it comes to playing the referee etc and if you want to be a top league manager you need that.
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superstu Posted on 12/07/2018 12:14

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Think Colombia and Sweden could have beat Argentina and Spain if they'd met this tournament actually. Not to mention England.
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Funky_Chicken Posted on 12/07/2018 12:14

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He won’t get a top league managers job anywhere in Europe and that’s a FACT - not now not ever and I would put my house in that. He just ain’t up to it - sorry jayjay but you need to take the rose tinted specs off mate [8)]



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Doppelganger Posted on 12/07/2018 12:27

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Sweden were the worst team I've ever seen in a WC QF. It was like playing against the cones. So bad it was untrue.
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Abel_Tasman Posted on 12/07/2018 12:29
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Irrelevant what people on this forum think really.

Those who are in the best position to judge are the players themselves and it seems they would have walked through walls for him. That coming from cosseted multi millionaire youngsters is praise indeed.

Whether he goes to a “big” club or not his performance as the National coach at this World Cup far far exceeds most of those he has followed. For that alone his position as a great England coach is assured. I hope he stays on for at least two more tournaments. He’s the first England manager Ive actually liked since Bobby Robson.
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jayjayb Posted on 12/07/2018 12:32

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Its not a fact is it you silly clucker!
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jayjayb Posted on 12/07/2018 12:33

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Exactly abel, he reminds me a lot of Bobby Robson in terms of his conduct and how he treats people together with the affection his players have for him. People should not underestimate how important those things are in relation to being a successful football manager.
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CardiffDaffs Posted on 12/07/2018 12:36

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Abel [^]

Careful JayjayB. The flunky will get his other cretinous alter ego Mansize Rooster to come on and cluck at you. And that’s all he’s saying.
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atypical_boro Posted on 12/07/2018 12:38

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I don't think he is anything like Bobby Robson personally. Can you imagine Southgate dealing with the media like Robson used to when under the kosh? Horses for courses of course.
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CardiffDaffs Posted on 12/07/2018 12:39

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Southgate has handled the media brilliantly
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jayjayb Posted on 12/07/2018 12:45

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I meant more in terms of how much of a gentleman he is and how highly he is thought of by his players. They are very similar characters. I am in no doubt about that.
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Funky_Chicken Posted on 12/07/2018 12:49

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Jayjayb is Gates new alter ego and I claim my free black an decker workmate [8)]




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jayjayb Posted on 12/07/2018 12:53

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You silly clucker you. I've been called more trolls on here than I have had sensible replies!

I take it you have given up trying to debate the point at hand then? I don't blame you to be fair. I was tying you in knots.
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Funky_Chicken Posted on 12/07/2018 12:54

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bear66 Posted on 12/07/2018 12:55

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G K Chesterton
“If you argue with a madman, it is extremely probable that you will get the worst of it; for in many ways his mind moves all the quicker for not being delayed by the things that go with good judgment.”
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jayjayb Posted on 12/07/2018 12:56

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I'm making pretty easy work of it to be fair you silly clucker.
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bear66 Posted on 12/07/2018 12:59

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G K Chesterton
“Humility is the mother of giants. One sees great things from the valley; only small things from the peak.”
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jayjayb Posted on 12/07/2018 13:02

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Was he the bloke who left the map to the kids in the Goonies? Sounds like a smart bloke.
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jimstewart Posted on 12/07/2018 13:15

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His stock is considerably higher than it was a month ago. That doesn’t mean he’s gonna be anywhere near the likes of Manchester United.
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atypical_boro Posted on 12/07/2018 13:17

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"Southgate has handled the media brilliantly"

Yes, as hasn't been under the kosh yet. We started from a position of virtually zero expectation, and then started to build a bit of hype.

People are all excited about 2020 now, lose our first game and we'll see how well he deals with the media then. He dealt with it terribly when he was our manager.
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Funky_Chicken Posted on 12/07/2018 13:19

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I am done on this one now, but time will prove I am right on everything I’ve said [^]



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jayjayb Posted on 12/07/2018 13:20

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I suppose there has got to be a first time for everything you stupid clucker.
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Abel_Tasman Posted on 12/07/2018 14:21

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“He dealt with it terribly when he was our manager”

Did he? I don’t recall that particularly but in any case that was ten years ago. He’s learnt a lot and judging from his recent handling of everything he’s much better for the experience.
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1finny Posted on 12/07/2018 14:25

Gareth Southgate will manage one of the big clubs

 
Southgate was getting booed 10 months ago
Now he’s gonna manage a big club

And as for
‘The England manager’s job is the most pressurised in World Football’ [:D][:D][:D]
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atypical_boro Posted on 12/07/2018 14:25

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Just my opinion Abel, I felt he really struggled with the media especially in our relegation season.
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glover_elbow Posted on 12/07/2018 14:46

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How is it the biggest job in world football as some of you idiots proclaim. I would say the German Spanish or even Italian national j0b is bigger as they have a greater world cup pedigree. Idiotic jingoistic statements like that are the reason england are disliked around the world even Croatia mentioned the arrogance of the English fans and media. As for Southgate he has blown probably a once in the lifetime chance of a world cup final. Poor tatics and substitutions gifted the game to Croatia persisting with an out of form and woeful deli ali last night was a decision of a complete ineptitude.
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br14 Posted on 12/07/2018 14:47

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With the exception of the point made earlier about not being able to handle older players, he did a reasonable job for us.

Not his fault the club almost went bankrupt during the financial crisis and couldn't replace players. Steve Gibson mortgaged his own house to keep the club afloat.

I seem to remember things were so bad we played against Chelsea with Andrew Taylor in midfield!

His inexperience showed in his handling of Cattermole etc. I don't think he'd make the same mistakes.
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glover_elbow Posted on 12/07/2018 14:51

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seem to remember things were so bad we played against Chelsea with Andrew Taylor in midfield

That's what happens when you release decent players like Morrison for a pittance
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Tuncaythefunguy Posted on 12/07/2018 15:00

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The subs proved we just don’t have great strength in depth.

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glover_elbow Posted on 12/07/2018 15:01

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No he picked the wrong subs loftus cheek should have come on. Subbing sterling was wrong.
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emerson_ave Posted on 12/07/2018 16:01

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It is clear that England's performances in this World Cup have caused anguish rather than delight among some posters notably PAMH who as he has stated above understands football better than any of us. England's departure from the competition has relieved their pain to a degree. I am looking forward to PAMH's posts when the day arrives when Gareth, having lead England to either a Euro or World Cup win decides he needs a new challenge in club management and is replaced by Gary Monk.
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glover_elbow Posted on 12/07/2018 16:34
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Emerson I will gladly run bollock naked through yarm high street if we ever win the world cup with Gareth Southgate. He's a woeful manager with a team of players who are not talented enough. Eric dier for example would not be a proffessional footballer in a country like brazil or germany hes that bad. Modric and ratic were levels above anyone england had that's the reality. How many goals did we score in the tournament from open play. We got lucky with the draw and have slightly improved under Southgate but let's not kid ourselves we are a long long way away from being a world cup winning team
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go_nads Posted on 12/07/2018 16:43

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Because Brazil and Germany did so well at the World Cup?

sometimes a team is more than the sum of it's parts and conversely sometimes less. it's up to a manager to mould them into a "team". Gareth has done that, hence our progression to a World Cup semi and not a defeat to the likes of Iceland.
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atypical_boro Posted on 12/07/2018 16:51

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Gareth has definitely done well and agree with go_nads, avoiding that kind of embarassment deserves credit given recent years. But he didn't achieve enough to get a big job I don't think.
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emerson_ave Posted on 12/07/2018 17:12

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It is clear reading many posts on this and any subject that some people derive a perverse pleasure from others' failures in sport. If you analyse England's 1966 World Cup win in similar terms to glover-elbow's assessment of England's performance in this one it amounted to this:

We struggled in the group stages, failing to beat the best team Uruguay in a turgid 0-0 draw. We then got a first win mainly through a wonder strike from Bobby Charlton against one of the weakest teams in the tournament Mexico before beating a mediocre France with a couple of scruffy goals. The temperament of a talented Argentina side lead to their captain and best player being sent off by a referee who failed to control the game and in spite of playing against 10 men from half way through the first half we got a lucky 1-0 win in extra-time. Aided by a lenient referee who failed to send off Nobby Stiles for at least a dozen red card offences against the tournament's best player Eusebio and a dodgy penalty we stumbled through to the final where through shocking defending we gave away the game in the last minute and were awarded a goal in extra time which to this day nobody can confirm was over the line. The final goal was then scored when half a dozen fans were on the pitch and the referee failed to stop the game.

As for' let's not kid ourselves we are a long long way away from being a world cup winning team'

We weren't that far away from reaching the final. France may have beaten us but they may not have.

I enjoyed England's performance. They got some luck. At the end their luck ran out but unlike some I am happy that we did well under a former Boro manager. I will repeat his treatment by some Boro fans is beneath contempt.
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PrideOfTeesside Posted on 12/07/2018 18:03

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Let’s be honest you can only beat what’s in front of you I get that, but we didn’t beat anyone of note to say Southgate deserves a top job.

We beat Colombia and Sweden, not Brazil or France, he done a good job yes for sure he managed the team very well and there is a good vibe within the squad, but he hasn’t done anything amazing, the draw helped us.

Had we got a bad draw in round 16 it could of been very different. Our first real test was Croatia and they beat us.
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jayjayb Posted on 12/07/2018 19:17

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Excellent debate that.
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emerson_ave Posted on 12/07/2018 23:53

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He has a top job and has done better in it in a very short time than most people who get jobs in football whether they be in club and international football.
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AyresomeAvenger Posted on 13/07/2018 11:05

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Don't see him wanting to leave England for a while yet.

That means that there is a chance that whatever success comes his way in the meantime his final act could be failure.

That'll make him toxic to big clubs.
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