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Nosmo-King Posted on 12/07/2018 06:16
Southgate's stock has risen immeasurably
 
 
Hand up, I was one of his many detractors during his managerial time with us.

However I can only praise the job he has done for our country. He has got a squad completely in harmony with each other. Brought the nation back in love with the National team. Spoken eloquently ( nothing new) in a measured way. And, most importantly, delivered a World Cup campaign few would have imagined.

His stock has risen immeasurably of that there is no doubt. He should be proud of where he has taken us and, equally important, where he could take us. Massive respect to him.
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AndyD13 Posted on 12/07/2018 06:55

Southgate's stock has risen immeasurably

 
Bit like Chris Coleman.
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Pogatetz_Ate_My_Hamster_ Posted on 12/07/2018 07:35

Southgate's stock has risen immeasurably

 
Exactly Andy.
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big-eggo Posted on 12/07/2018 07:44

Southgate's stock has risen immeasurably

 
Share prices can fall every bit as quickly a they rise. He has a lot to learn.
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1finny Posted on 12/07/2018 07:59

Southgate's stock has risen immeasurably

 
Devil’s advocate

We are good at set pieces (Big Sam, Pulis, WarXXXXXX).
But
He’s a nice guy and we can sometimes pass the ball around in the back 4.
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MiniShotton Posted on 12/07/2018 08:08

Southgate's stock has risen immeasurably

 
For beating Tunisia, Panama, Colombia and Sweden?

Played two decent sides and lost to them both.
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archiestephens_elbow Posted on 12/07/2018 08:18

Southgate's stock has risen immeasurably

 
Chris Coleman was in the same position 2 years ago. Look what happened to him
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Nosmo-King Posted on 12/07/2018 09:06

Southgate's stock has risen immeasurably

 
Don’t think Southgate would touch a Sunderland type job. We were a joke nation in recent World Cups, now at least we have gained some respect back.

Not perfect but progress from where we were
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emphony Posted on 12/07/2018 09:13

Southgate's stock has risen immeasurably

 
The Belgium game only showed that their reserve team was marginally better than our reserve team.

Last night we got beat in added time, no shame in that.

We had a good run to the Semi's, but so called better England teams have come unstuck in similar circumstances. There are plenty of positives to take away from this tournament, one of the biggest is how many have fallen back in love with the national team
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littlejimmy Posted on 12/07/2018 09:14

Southgate's stock has risen immeasurably

 
Here we go. The churlish ones at it again. Can't be seen to give any credit where it's due. Do we not remember what happened in our last 2 tournaments? Out after 2 games in the last WC and out to Iceland in the Euros? We've made progress and with a young squad we should be able to push on and compete in the next few tournaments.

We didn't make the draw easier, it was because the likes of Germany, Spain and Argentina were crap and the so-called lesser teams played better.
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1finny Posted on 12/07/2018 09:16

Southgate's stock has risen immeasurably

 
Jimmy
Calm down
The OP is about Southgate’s stock rising ‘immeasurably’

Some of us think that’s on the optimistic side.
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Greenandblack Posted on 12/07/2018 09:23

Southgate's stock has risen immeasurably

 
I think Southgate needs to win the third place play off. If that's lost then England will have won four and lost three games at the World Cup, which isn't good.
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TheFair86 Posted on 12/07/2018 09:24

Southgate's stock has risen immeasurably

 
We did well but had we met Belgium earlier or had harder knockouts i’m sure it would be same old same old in hearts and minds.

Croatia were ranked about 20th and we were heavy favourites and lost, may have been in added time but it still exposes poor decisions like sticking with sterling, waiting til 70 mins to bring rashford on, keeping dele Alli on when he was a passenger, persisting with Kane if it’s true he had a knock etc

We took an early lead and should have killed it off but instead we gave them as much rope as they liked.

Going forward I hope he sticks with it and co tours to learn but would be surprised if he replicated that success at a club level without his pick of the england players - Coleman shows that its a much harder game when you’ve got to buy and sell and work with what you’ve got.

Not taking anything away from him though, but we were the only team in the semis that didn’t dump out a top 10 team, which shows that we were very optimistic despite an easy run.

Plenty of time for him to grow and continue to learn
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littlejimmy Posted on 12/07/2018 09:31

Southgate's stock has risen immeasurably

 
OK finny, that's probably a bit extreme, but he deserves some credit for the way he moulded the team, got the country excited again and the way he has conducted himself. Too many are all too eager to go to the other extreme now and say he must be a crap manager after last night.
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atypical_boro Posted on 12/07/2018 09:33

Southgate's stock has risen immeasurably

 
Once the dust has settled, I think people will look back and say 'he did a bit better than anyone expected'. I honestly thought we were nailed on for the quarters regardless, and we avoided the big team we expected.

He's raised his profile but I actually think he'll stay in the England job another 2 years then probably get a Championship job, even if we do well in the Euros.
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Pogatetz_Ate_My_Hamster_ Posted on 12/07/2018 09:43

Southgate's stock has risen immeasurably

 
He deserves credit for getting to the semi-final, for bringing in his own system which suited the players well and making us very effective from set-pieces.

On the flipside his in game management was poor (last night and Columbia) and when it came to making the big decisions (dropping Alli, subbing Kane) he bottled it.
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