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coluka Posted on 11/03/2018 11:17
Bamford
 
 
For Ireland?



Link: Go on Paddy Lad
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bear66 Posted on 11/03/2018 11:45

Bamford

 
Deserves an England call up.
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Block21 Posted on 11/03/2018 11:48

Bamford

 
Well he’s certainly got the name for it.
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coluka Posted on 11/03/2018 11:48
Edited On: 11/03/2018 11:49
Bamford

 
[:D]

Bamford is a great and talented striker but he will need to prove it at the next level before England come calling I think bear66
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BobUpndown Posted on 11/03/2018 11:50
Edited On: 11/03/2018 11:52
Bamford

 
I'd be telling MoN - I'm English.. pick an Irishman to play for their own national side.

He's already at least as good as or better than several who've recently been called up..

Though as we know Southgate is the FA safe bet, who'll only select PL players.. doyle..
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bear66 Posted on 11/03/2018 11:50

Bamford

 
Who's the in form third striker for England at the moment?
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speckyget Posted on 11/03/2018 11:50

Bamford

 
11 goals in the last 5 games?! Wow. He's better than we thought.
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erimus74 Posted on 11/03/2018 11:51

Bamford

 
Fingers crossed coluka [^]
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Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 11/03/2018 11:54

Bamford

 
Keep it up bear66!!!

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coluka Posted on 11/03/2018 11:56

Bamford

 
Bear66 when was the last time a second league striker played for England? I cant think of anybody off the top of my head since Steve Bull.

Maybe someone has since as I dont bother with England too much tbf
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Easy_ Posted on 11/03/2018 12:06

Bamford

 
Merson went to the World Cup after a season in the second tier. Not that I think Bamford has any chance of a call up at the moment.
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RC92 Posted on 11/03/2018 12:33

Bamford

 
Kane, Vardy and Rashford are all nailed on to go ahead of Bamford.

Bamford is in good form but I don't think he'll even be in contention.
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Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 11/03/2018 12:40

Bamford

 
There's a few more than that ahead in the pecking order.
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31439 Posted on 11/03/2018 12:40

Bamford

 
He's playing well but Jesus guys he ain't anywhere near the england squad come on [rle]
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branca2 Posted on 11/03/2018 21:19

Bamford

 
It'll be interesting to see if he stays in the summer.
I wonder if Pulis will want to cash in as he's not really his kind of target man (despite the goals) and if Bamford would have learned from his past spells and want to stay! Unfortunately if we do not go up I can see another doomed move to a team life Huddersfield/Brighton etc
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Derek_Duvall Posted on 11/03/2018 21:23

Bamford

 
Didn't Nugent play for England when Preston were in the 3rd Division or did I just dream that up?!
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Senor_Chester Posted on 11/03/2018 21:29

Bamford

 
Talk about getting carried away - loving his current form but Bamford for England [cr]
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BobUpndown Posted on 11/03/2018 21:31

Bamford

 
Kane, Rashford & Vardy... But after that.. all very similar..

Not this world cup.. but future ones..
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merrykoala Posted on 11/03/2018 21:58

Bamford

 
Pretty sure I read in an interview that Bamford would only consider a move back to Chelsea as that was his dream as a kid.

Didn't someone say he was getting a house built in yarm?
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Supermac Posted on 11/03/2018 22:32

Bamford

 
People wanted us to bin him off 6 weeks ago. 5 games later they want him in the world cup squad

There is at least 15 strikers ahead of him in pecking order probably more
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ian1969uk Posted on 11/03/2018 23:01

Bamford

 
"None of those three carry the height or power of Murphy, depriving O’Neill of a statuesque figure for the direct style he favours most.

Bamford, who has scored 11 goals in his last five Championship matches for Boro, fits the bill and is eligible."

They've not watched Bamford play then?
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bear66 Posted on 11/03/2018 23:56

Bamford

 
They have.
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Liamo Posted on 12/03/2018 09:49

Bamford

 
''Didn't Nugent play for England when Preston were in the 3rd Division or did I just dream that up?!''

You got it partly right. His only England cap did come when he was playing for Preston, but they were in the Championship at the time (in 2007).

Link: Nugent England call-up
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Andy Posted on 12/03/2018 10:32

Bamford

 
"O’Neill is a fan of the 6ft 1in target man and appears keen to get him on board. “Bamford is one of the Boro players in form and I watched him recently,” said O’Neill"

Is he a target man? I don't see him in that mold at all..
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bear66 Posted on 12/03/2018 10:51

Bamford

 
He certainly is. He won virtually every ball on Saturday by his clever movement and control. Only in his last 10 minutes did his headers (which he continued to win) go nowhere.
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Tacker Posted on 12/03/2018 11:01

Bamford

 
I'd love to know all 15 strikers who are currently ahead of Bamford. Is there even 15 English strikers playing regularly in the PL!?

Realistically, Bamford will never play for England in the near future. I'd say he's better off playing for Republic of Ireland and playing regularly at International level. That will improve his overall game, rather than training with England and having Danny Welbeck ahead of him!
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Anton_Berg Posted on 12/03/2018 11:03

Bamford

 
If a contested header goes nowhere, then the defender has won it.
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uncle_rico Posted on 12/03/2018 11:21

Bamford

 
"I'd love to know all 15 strikers who are currently ahead of Bamford. Is there even 15 English strikers playing regularly in the PL!?"

That's the problem, players are mostly picked on reputation over form. I don't think Bamford should be getting an England call up at present, but if he can keep scoring until the end of the season and of there was a few injuries he would have to be considered.

Unfortunately players like Sturridge, who have don't nothing for years, would be ahead of him.

If Bamford can keep scoring and we can get promoted then you would hope he'd get his chance.
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Muttley Posted on 12/03/2018 11:27

Bamford

 
"If a contested header goes nowhere, then the defender has won it"

No. It may be that the intended recipient doesn't read the flick on or that a defender reads it and picks it up.

I don't know Bamford's ancestry, but I'm not sure playing for the Republic would help him develop particularly? That said, at the moment he is nowhere near playing for England. Perhaps he never will be but if players like Brian Deane, Francis Jeffers and our own dear Michael Ricketts can don the three lions shirt why shouldn't Paddy?
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El_Capitano_28 Posted on 12/03/2018 11:34
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Bamford

 
The following would all have to be injured for Bamford to have a chance:

Kane
Vardy
Walcott
Rashford
Sturridge
Defoe
Crouch
Carroll
Abraham
Welbeck
Barnes
Antonio
Murray
Rooney
Wilson
Deeney
Austin
Calvert-Lewin
Gray
Gayle
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Torino Posted on 12/03/2018 11:37
Edited On: 12/03/2018 11:38
Bamford

 
Jay Bothroyd played for England. If he could manage it anyone can.
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Indeedido Posted on 12/03/2018 11:59

Bamford

 
You may be right that these lot would have to be injured for Patrick to get selected this summer.
IF he gets a goal a game until the end of the season though, then that might well change.

He will always be behind Kane and Rashford and would be behind Vardy for this summer, but the rest are either:

1. Finished at international level.
Rooney, Crouch, Defoe
2. Proven not to be good enough at international level.
Walcott, Welbeck
3. Clearly short of international class.
Deeney, Gray, Gayle, Barnes, Murray
4. Injured more often than fit
Sturridge, Carroll, Austin
5. No better a prospect than Bamford
Abraham, Antonio, Calvert-Lewin, Wilson.

He is a long way off the squad just now, but a flying end to the season, injuries to Kane and Rashford and it may not be so daft.
If we go up and he is successful with us in the PL, then he would make the squad, but still not the side.
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AlBoro1984 Posted on 12/03/2018 12:10
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Bamford

 
3. Clearly short of international class.
Deeney, Gray, Gayle, Barnes, Murray


Yet all have proven they can score goals in the Premier League. Has Bamford?

5. No better a prospect than Bamford
Abraham, Antonio, Calvert-Lewin, Wilson.

Based on? Again all have done it at PL level.

As someone said further up, it's either one extreme or another with Boro fans. The people wanting him in the England squad are probably the same ones saying he wasn't good enough for Hartlepool a few weeks back.

Now he is Messi reborn.
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Tacker Posted on 12/03/2018 12:11

Bamford

 
What Indeedio said!

Glenn Murray over Bamford. Christ.
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AlBoro1984 Posted on 12/03/2018 12:12

Bamford

 
Glenn Murray over Bamford. Christ.

Not seen much of Brighton this season? He is doing the business in the PL. How many PL goals has Bamford got?
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El_Capitano_28 Posted on 12/03/2018 12:37

Bamford

 
That list isn't my own opinion, it is how England managers work, especially in recent years. Glenn Murray would 100% be picked ahead of Bamford.
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Indeedido Posted on 12/03/2018 12:47

Bamford

 
The subject was making the England squad this summer, not scoring a few PL goals.

I made it clear that I don't think he should be in now, but circumstances may change things - and much more likely in the fairly near future against that group of 20 players.
Bamford has class, required at international level.
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woodymfc Posted on 12/03/2018 20:53

Bamford

 
Can't believe what I'm reading here which makes me suspicious that certain users on here are back into glue sniffing or the likes

Patrick hits a purple patch and look what happens lol
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Tacker Posted on 13/03/2018 11:50

Bamford

 
End of the day, neither Bamford or Murray will go to the World Cup.

Paddy should stick his allegiance to Ireland and have a consistent international career.
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bear66 Posted on 13/03/2018 11:57

Bamford

 
Lot of people putting Murray ahead of Wellbeck and Walcott as third striker at the moment based on form.
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FrozenHorse Posted on 13/03/2018 12:07
Edited On: 13/03/2018 12:13
Bamford

 
I wouldn’t be picking anyone on form at this time; the tournament is still best part of 3 months away.

If someone had a really good season, I see the point, but a 1-2 month burst of form can vanish as quickly as it arrives.

The question is never who has done well recently; it’s who do you back to do well in the next match?

Welbeck’s got a good international record 15 goals in 36) despite never being prolific at domestic level. He can also play across the front line. If he’s fit, he’ll go.
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Easy_ Posted on 13/03/2018 12:09

Bamford

 
I like Welbeck. Good player hampered by injuries.
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newyddion Posted on 13/03/2018 12:14

Bamford

 
Kane
Vardy
Welbeck
Walcott
Rashford
Sturridge
Defoe
Rooney
Crouch
Carroll

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Bamford
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Austin
Abraham
Calvert-Lewin
Antonio
Wilson
Deeney
Gray
Gayle
Barnes
Murray
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RC92 Posted on 13/03/2018 12:36

Bamford

 
Not sure I would put Bamford above Gayle.
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Tacker Posted on 13/03/2018 12:37

Bamford

 
Are people forgetting Wayne Rooney retired at the beginning of the season?
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Vena Posted on 13/03/2018 12:44

Bamford

 
oh dear.
I'm assuming this is one of those just for a bit of fun threads.

Hes notched a few against lower championship teams, lets not get carried away. Besides he could notch a brace in every game from now till May and still not get a look in, if you are genuinely looking at the list above and would have Bamford above more than 3 or 4 for the plane then you need your head looking at.

How many would you do a straight swap for in the next window? 85-90%?

Take the offer whilst its on the table Paddy.


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bear66 Posted on 13/03/2018 12:50

Bamford

 
Murray did well in the Championship last season . . . and the Premier League this season.

Bamford has a lot more going for him.
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BoroBen92 Posted on 13/03/2018 12:57

Bamford

 
Don't think Defoe is playing enough to warrant inclusion
Don't think Welbeck is performing particularly impressively

With Kane potentially injured, I'd not be surprised if Murray got a call up on Thursday.
Bamford has had a month or two of good games after 2 and a bit years of nothing, he shouldn't be anywhere near the squad yet. I hope we're promoted and he carries on this form in the top flight for us, so he does start getting a look in, but can't see it yet.
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FrozenHorse Posted on 13/03/2018 13:05

Bamford

 
Nowt against Murray, he’s done well.

However 7 goals from open play and 4 pens does not demand inclusion in my book.

Vardy knocked in 24 in 36 PL games to force his way into the squad 2 years ago, though I accept a fair few of those were pens too
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BoroBen92 Posted on 13/03/2018 13:07

Bamford

 
Think it'd be more down to injuries, lack of game time and limited options rather than him doing anything remarkable.

We're not exactly swimming in on form English strikers and our best one is out injured.
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UgoAfro Posted on 13/03/2018 13:08

Bamford

 
Murray's also the World's slowest striker.
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bear66 Posted on 13/03/2018 13:10

Bamford

 
It only takes a second to score a goal.
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Chappy112 Posted on 13/03/2018 13:41

Bamford

 
I clicked on the other Bamford thread and was happy to say I was wrong about him and then I click on this one and it's XXXXXX barmy. The delusion is scary.
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bear66 Posted on 13/03/2018 13:59

Bamford

 
The fact that Murray looks a good possibility for the third striker role makes anything look barmy. Rooney is the only form alternative.
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Supermac Posted on 13/03/2018 14:56

Bamford

 
Delusion is ridiculous. People wanting bamford picked based on from but knocking Murray who is in a similar rich vein of form. Clearly neither are England strikers but the argument would be the same for both of them and if your picking solely on form clearly likes of Barnes and Murray is ahead of bamford as he's knocking them at PL level
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Borocelt Posted on 13/03/2018 15:07

Bamford

 

Kane - Yes
Vardy - Yes
Walcott - Not a striker
Rashford - Yes
Sturridge - Is he even fit? But yes, fine
Defoe - Knackered now, isn't he?
Crouch - Definitely knackered now
Carroll - Permanently injured
Abraham - Sceptical
Welbeck - Yes
Barnes - Declared for Austria
Antonio - No
Murray - No
Rooney - Did you miss his retirement?
Wilson - Entirely unconvinced
Deeney - Can't see it
Austin - No
Calvert-Lewin - Not yet
Gray - No
Gayle - No

It's not as extensive a list as you'd think, although i agree he's nowhere near right now, half of that list is quite definitely not applicable.
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BoroBen92 Posted on 13/03/2018 15:13
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Bamford

 
Barnes can't play for Austria because he's not an Austrian citizen, so doesn't have an Austrian passport and they don't allow dual citizenship, apparently FIFA gave a permit for him to play at youth level.

He could still play for England if they called him up.
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Indeedido Posted on 13/03/2018 15:16

Bamford

 
Basically the only difference between my post and yours Borocelt[^] is we disagree on Welbeck who I don't rate (along with 90% of the arsenal support)

I don't think there is any delusion on this thread, as literally nobody is suggesting Bamford should get in a full strength England team or squad this summer; certainly not me.
But if he does get to 20 by season end, then he might, depending on circumstances.
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Chappy112 Posted on 13/03/2018 20:00

Bamford

 
"Kane - Yes
Vardy - Yes
Walcott - Not a striker
Rashford - Yes
Sturridge - Is he even fit? But yes, fine
Defoe - Knackered now, isn't he?
Crouch - Definitely knackered now
Carroll - Permanently injured
Abraham - Sceptical
Welbeck - Yes
Barnes - Declared for Austria
Antonio - No
Murray - No
Rooney - Did you miss his retirement?
Wilson - Entirely unconvinced
Deeney - Can't see it
Austin - No
Calvert-Lewin - Not yet
Gray - No
Gayle - No"

This is the absolute definition of delusion.

Unless when you say no you mean they shouldn't be in the England squad? Then I'd agree but if you mean no you'd take Bamford over them then you've lost your marbles.

How on Earth can you say Bamford over Deeney, Abraham, Wilson, Murray, Charlie Austin etc? All those players did more than Bamford in the Championship never mind the Premier League.
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Starbuck Posted on 13/03/2018 21:24

Bamford

 
He should tell them both to poke it and have a nice rest each International break and a stress free summer every year
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Supermac Posted on 13/03/2018 22:30

Bamford

 
On what basis if they are all fit would Bamford get in ahead of Wilson/Calvert Lewin/Abraham/Austin etc? All proven premier league players
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hopesoboro Posted on 13/03/2018 22:37

Bamford

 
Let's just hope his goals take us to the Prem.
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El_Capitano_28 Posted on 14/03/2018 00:40

Bamford

 
Those mentioning Rooney's international retirement- there's a mindblowing thing that players can do where they...get this...come out of retirement.
If a handful of strikers had to withdraw from selection and Rooney was asked, there's no doubt he'd go to Russia.
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Tacker Posted on 14/03/2018 11:44

Bamford

 
Rooney declared his retirement primarily because of his family commitments. I hardly see him changing his mind and pi55ing off the Mrs for 2 weeks in Russia, just in case Kane isn't fit.

Calvert-Lewin and Abraham are not "proven" PL strikers/goal scorers. They've netted a few this Season between them.

Jamie Vardy is a proven PL goal scorer.
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MawTheMerrier Posted on 14/03/2018 12:02

Bamford

 
Starbuk [^]

Bamford needs to establish himself first before even thinking about caps. Let them come begging.
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Cork_Boro Posted on 14/03/2018 12:24

Bamford

 
If Paddy decides to declare for Ireland (as he has already done at youth level) we will welcome him with open arms. Could see himself and Seanie Maguire linking up well in a similar way to Quinn & Robbie Keane in their heyday!
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Supermac Posted on 14/03/2018 18:47

Bamford

 
Good point about Rooney. Despite what people think of him as a person he has always put England first. Even in retirement he didn't hang around racking up caps like Beckham. I have no doubt if we have a spurt of injuries and he was asked he would be on that plane
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