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christiano29 Posted on 09/03/2018 22:26
Do we really need all these new houses
 
 
We keep hearing that we need to build so many more. However they have built so many around Teesside in the last few years, surely there isn't the demand for anymore in the local area .
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tryasize10 Posted on 09/03/2018 22:27

Do we really need all these new houses

 
The population is growing. You do the maths.
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TheFair86 Posted on 09/03/2018 22:32

Do we really need all these new houses

 
Nah course we don't. What happens is we build them, no one buys them, so we keep building more. Thats obviously it. No one needs a bigger house for a family and no one moves out so obviously we dont need any new houses at all.
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Kosovo Posted on 09/03/2018 22:36

Do we really need all these new houses

 
So are the house prices. Itís a joke the price you paid for a new build.
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christiano29 Posted on 09/03/2018 22:36

Do we really need all these new houses

 
The population isn't growing that fast in the Teesside region ~ 0.5 % per year.
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vuvuzelas Posted on 09/03/2018 22:36

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We need a great geographical spread of the countries population. We have a hugely over populated south east but a spXXXXXXly populated North East, Wales and Scotland
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christiano29 Posted on 09/03/2018 22:38

Do we really need all these new houses

 
House prices have been approx flat on Teesside for the last 10 years
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Johnson Posted on 09/03/2018 22:41
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Do we really need all these new houses

 
Yes we do need new houses

Not sure about Teesside as I saw loads of new build estates around Hartlepool when we last had a bit of time over there last summer.

But in York, where I live, it's ridiculous - hardly anything being built, certainly not much 'affordable'.

As even young, professional adults can't get anywhere near on the ladder there's something going wrong.

In a lot of the world home ownership isn't really a big deal, but it still seems to be in the UK. And there's loads the Govt and local councils could do to make it happen.

But buy to rent landlords seem to have some sway

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vuvuzelas Posted on 09/03/2018 22:44

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House prices across large swaves the north east are down on 2008. Newcastle and one or two small pockets aside its been a dreadful decade for home owners.

My now wife bought our house in 2006 for £110k. Two of our neighbours have their houses for sale (one for over 2 years) and we'd be lucky to get £85k now for it.
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Kosovo Posted on 09/03/2018 22:50

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House prices have been approx flat on Teesside for the last 10 years

Just had a look on the internet. £120000 for a 2 bedroom house on Ladgate Woods. Thatís a joke.
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Dibzzz Posted on 10/03/2018 00:00

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We need affordable homes for younger people.

We were lucky, bought in 96, just before it went daft, and then it seemed a hell of a stretch.

But now, they have no chance.

Yeah you might be able to pick up a 'bargain' but it'll be in a shytehole and dropping to bits.

Feel sorry for the young'uns to be honest, looking at inflated rent as an only option, and then you'll have to be doing quite well for yourself and a mate/partner to be able to fly the nest.
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LOCOMANSIMON Posted on 10/03/2018 00:31

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building everywhere in Whitby, every scrap of land, its ridiculous. no new doctors, dentists, primary schools, Hospital closing wards.
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clive_road_stamper Posted on 10/03/2018 02:23

Do we really need all these new houses

 
i assume all fit and healthy in Whitby
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brattleboro Posted on 10/03/2018 03:20

Do we really need all these new houses

 
Id be more happy if they were building houses for homeless people[sad]
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mborolad Posted on 10/03/2018 04:20

Do we really need all these new houses

 
Its a disgrace whats happened to Grove Hill, all those houses flattened and area abandoned....
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billeeee Posted on 10/03/2018 07:08

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You can only blame the residents of Grove Hill for its sad demise.
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ExFootyLegs Posted on 10/03/2018 07:57

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Developers wonít build in grove hill as the house prices are low and profits low.
Government has a target to get people into affordable homes and developers have a goal of maximum profits which means bigger houses at a higher price but higher profits

Total disconnect between government and private delelopers
Was never goons work
Government needs to build council houses. Thatís the only solution for young people to really get on the ladder

Government wonít act though as they are under handedely evil
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redwurzel Posted on 10/03/2018 08:40

Do we really need all these new houses

 
The problem as said is regional - there are plenty of houses on Teesside of all types, but the population is not growing as people leave the area to find professional jobs. It is also relatively easy to get planning permission on Teesside.

Go to York and you will find every man and his dog will object to most new houses. Older Middle class professionals are also more articulate in getting their points across and forming action groups.
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Tuncays_Cat Posted on 10/03/2018 09:09

Do we really need all these new houses

 
The population of Middlesbrough has been in decline over the last 10 years, 144k to 137k. House prices in some places are well below regional averages. So it doesnít seem to make much sense to build more houses. Whoís going to buy?

Iíd love to see Middlesbrough as an upcoming city but we need the jobs first then the houses can come later!
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norfolkred1 Posted on 10/03/2018 09:16

Do we really need all these new houses

 
What figure would they class as affordable, when you cannot get a mortgage in the first place.
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tripleheader Posted on 10/03/2018 10:02

Do we really need all these new houses

 
Well they built Ingleby Barracks, the biggest housing estate in Europe and filled it.I see it occupied by people from the area moving up the housing ladder and a small percentage of 1st timers leaving homes in the established traditional areas which are not going to 1st timers but into private landlords hands.
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Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 10/03/2018 10:09

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As old housing is demolished new housing is required, and there's a lot of old housing still around in Teesside.
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Tuncays_Cat Posted on 10/03/2018 10:11

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Fair point, I wonder if the migration of people to Ingleby Toytown and Yarm are to blame for stagnation in Middlesbrough.
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Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 10/03/2018 10:21

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Price stagnation?
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Anton_Berg Posted on 10/03/2018 10:32

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To anyone outside Teesside is is perplexing. In SW London, pokey 3 bed terraced cottages are over £900,000 now.
I met an exec from a Teesside housebuilder who told me that the only type of house they are prepared to build is 'executive', detached and on former farmland, because nothing else will sell.
It seems like the ultimate throwaway society, where you just dump old houses and find another area to spoil.
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myfooty Posted on 10/03/2018 10:49

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The population of Stockton On Tees is expected to grow by 20,000 over next 15 years. The plan is build over 10,000 new homes many of which are on Brownfield sites.

My guess is the local population will grow more than expected and more new homes will be built.
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norfolkred1 Posted on 10/03/2018 10:52

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About 15 years ago they did a survey on who owns the majority of empty houses, worst offenders the Church of England followed by the MOD
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mborolad Posted on 10/03/2018 11:00

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All these new houses should not be classed as affordable....they are not!

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newusername Posted on 10/03/2018 11:31

Do we really need all these new houses

 
"What figure would they class as affordable"

80% of market value
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whatdoyoubench Posted on 10/03/2018 12:25

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Tbh there are hundreds of affordable homes around teesside. It's the one thing it has going for it
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Blind_Boy_Grunt Posted on 10/03/2018 12:42

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It isn't just the number of new houses but the type of stock.

Middlesbrough council said a couple of years ago that in order to attract new business to the area we needed more executive houses. Those being built at the top of Ormesby Bank and opposite Grey Towers are for that purpose.
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TheFair86 Posted on 10/03/2018 14:48

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Houses in his area are easily affordable

Weíve just sold our two up two down terrace at a loss because itís central stockton

Itís in good condition, has a front and back garden, shed, decking, boarded out loft, absolute steal for 63k

Trouble is this isnít the end of the market that people are focusing on - itís housing that is reasonably priced where you arenít as likely to have jightmare neighbours and anti social behaviour

New builds are overpriced and lose some value right away but youíre getting a new start in a new area with likeminded people. Yes will always be some bad eggs, but on the whole much better prospects.

Loads of affordable housing available in this region, probably too mich, but itís high quality housing people want & need hence so much new build.
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MawTheMerrier Posted on 10/03/2018 14:50

Do we really need all these new houses

 
No we don't need any more boring boxes of tedious architectural interest, with a garden, built on greenfield. Definitely not.

We do need more brownfield, well thoughout, well designed inner city housing taking up minimum land. housing well connected to public transport and local businesses and shops. Keep it local [^]
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newusername Posted on 10/03/2018 15:46

Do we really need all these new houses

 
@Maw [^]

What builders provide & what people appear to want (two storey identikit box on a handkerchief plot surrounded by similar, cars parked half on road & half on the pavement) is just weird, why would you choose to live in suburban hell and have to drive every time you want to go somewhere?
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ritt_mickley Posted on 10/03/2018 16:16

Do we really need all these new houses

 
Moved back to the area to Guisborough last year from Dorset where there is not that much, and couldnít believe the amount of new build going on esp around Guisborough, Marton etc.
Still beats me where all the buyers are coming from? Councils are under pressure to build but we seem to have a monopoly on it.
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rayban Posted on 10/03/2018 17:39

Do we really need all these new houses

 
In the absence of any governmental control on the issues around private letting. We need significant investment in social housing. Houses for people that need them and can not afford extortionate private rent.

I'm all for giving people a leg up, that need a leg up, but with several provisos.

Social houseing should be held in perpetuity for people that need social housing. It should not be considered to be a leg up for life. Circumstances change over time, children grow up, improvements in earnings or job prospects happen. Bequeathments etc.

When people do not need the support of the tax payer/local tax payer, in terms of social housing. This benefit should be removed from them. It is unacceptable that investment in social housing should ultimately result in any profit made by social housing tenants.

Selling social housing at huge discounts, bearing in mind the rents are significantly lower than private lets, is complete madness on any level. And whats more one of the main reasons we have a housing problem today.
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mborolad Posted on 12/03/2018 04:24

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They must have been reading here!!!

Link: Grove HIll
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rumrunner Posted on 12/03/2018 07:51

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planning permission has been granted for over 700 houses south of the A174 parkway between Ormesby and Normanby baffles me where is the demand
A Tale of two areas
daughter one bought a good size two bedroom flat in the North East in 2007 for £125,000 its now worth around £100,000
daughter two buys a tiny one bedroom flat in London in 2014 for £300,000 its now worth £440,000
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merrykoala Posted on 12/03/2018 08:27

Do we really need all these new houses

 
I live in turn of the century terrace in Redcar town, I'll need a new roof in a few years and it's a struggle to find a straight wall in the place but I'd much rather live here than one of those poxy little new builds, no identity, no character, tiny, ill thought out rooms and no expansion options, no thanks.
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boromike85 Posted on 12/03/2018 10:49

Do we really need all these new houses

 
I've said it before but the problem is the method we use to go about building houses. we sell land to developers and give them planning permission to build and then they build as much as they can on that development to maximise profit. They will only develop in expensive areas so we never get them to build any actual affordable housing because they won't make money.

The way to do it is for the government/council to own the land and to pay the developers to build the houses. That is it. They will then be incentivised to build more quickly instead of landbanking. Why should developers benefit from land values increasing when they are doing nothing with it. The government should be getting those benefits.
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asredastheycome Posted on 12/03/2018 11:20

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Good to see that they are finally going to build on empty land in Grove Hill. Missed a great chance to change the whole reputation of the area. Good housing there would be much better than living in the likes of Ingleby as one instance. Close to town, close to a park, close to Linthorpe, hospital close by.

They should never be allowed to build out extending town boundaries when there is so many areas left to build on within our towns.
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TheFair86 Posted on 12/03/2018 14:53

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Yeah Iím sure loads of people would choose grove hill over ingleby.
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redwurzel Posted on 12/03/2018 17:43

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One reason Teesside has so many houses in the last 3 years is that the Councils particularly Redcar and Cleveland can't afford to contest planning applications no matter how bad they are see Flatts Lane. Someone seems to be even building new house(s) under Roseberry Topping in Newton.
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big-eggo Posted on 12/03/2018 19:27

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'built so many around Teesside in the last few years'

From Middlesbrough Council perspective, many of these newly constructed properties are outside of their boundary. They receive no council tax income from these but they still have to maintain town centre infrastructure to support these 'out of area' visitors when they want to work, shop or use leisure facilities.

Stockton council on the other hand are seeing their CT revenues rise.

On the planning side the goverment are playing fast and loose with planning applications. In the face of this councils know that objections are expensive and usually futile.
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skiprat Posted on 13/03/2018 12:03

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Can't believe I've got this far in and Gresham hasn't been mentioned once.

What an absolute disgrace to the town and Mallon that whole area is.

Prime land in the middle of any other decent sized town would have been snapped up by now. Instead most of it seems to have been turned into a car park for Psyche and Linthorpe Road.
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