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turnoffsaysthestar Posted on 13/02/2018 09:55
Bamford
 
 
He will come good again but getting on his back like some of the supporters do is ridiculous. If he tried to do what the crowd were shouting -tight, forward, backward, press,jump,beat the man get stuck in etc he'd need six foot legs.
The difference in the side when he came off was massive and he is playing to instructions!
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red_hot_iron Posted on 13/02/2018 10:01

Bamford

 
Bamford will benefit in a huge way from this run of games. he has started the majority of the last dozen or so games now. that will do him the world of good as it is probably more football then he has played in the 2 1/2 years prior to this combined.

This is the good thing about Pulis wanting to work with a smaller squad. it would be easy to swap and change with Braithwaite etc but having a smaller squad stops that and lets players play into form. I would not be surprised to see Bamford start to improve further soon.

Although I do think the competition from Harrison will start very soon.
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HotshotMFC Posted on 13/02/2018 10:03

Bamford

 
Playing him on the left wing instead of at striker is awful selection, especially when Gestede may as well be sitting in the stands because he is hopeless.

I suspect Pulis realises this and realises that a blunder was made with Braithwaite when we failed to get the lad from Newcastle.
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TheFair86 Posted on 13/02/2018 10:09

Bamford

 
The only thing thats going to help Bamford is scoring or creating goals. At the minute, despite play time, he is doing neither. Some clever touches but easily brushed aside. Our promotion rivals have players in his position with several goals and assists under their belts.

he is never a no 10/attacking midfielder/winger.

Pulis has brought Harrison in, and will have his window in the summer, cant sere Bamford being here if he doesn't start to produce soon.
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bear66 Posted on 13/02/2018 10:13

Bamford

 
When was he brushed aside? Gestede was on Saturday but not Bamford.

We would be in the top two if Leadbitter and Bamford had started in the team in August.
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hard_ Posted on 13/02/2018 10:35

Bamford

 
"We would be in the top two if Leadbitter and Bamford had started in the team in August."

Give over.
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TheFair86 Posted on 13/02/2018 10:37

Bamford

 
We'd be in the top 2 if Bamford was scoring goals, likewise Gestede. But they aren't are they?
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bear66 Posted on 13/02/2018 10:39

Bamford

 
Well pick him from last August then. Oh too late.

We'd be 7 points better than Villa based on how well we do when Leadbitter and Bamford are in at the start.
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Marvanelli Posted on 13/02/2018 10:41

Bamford

 
Top 2 if Bamford started every game?

Bear66 [:D]

Please tell me, how many goals has Bamford scored/created this season in the league?
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TheFair86 Posted on 13/02/2018 10:43

Bamford

 
He's got 1 league goal in 25 appearances, 12 of which were starts. Would he be the mythical 20 goal striker by now if he had started from August? Just needs that 25 appearance warmup to get going does he?
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bear66 Posted on 13/02/2018 10:43

Bamford

 
The stats are clear. When Pulis has dropped Bamford we've lost every game except Preston. He came on at half time when we were losing and we went on to win.
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Marvanelli Posted on 13/02/2018 10:45

Bamford

 
'The stats are clear.'

They are in deed.

1 goal in 25 league games....sums it up perfectly.

Oh and I'm sure Bamford started against Norwich away and Sheff Wed at home...
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BoroBen92 Posted on 13/02/2018 10:46

Bamford

 
The stats are coincidental.

Bamford had next to no impact on the game on Saturday, bar completely missing from a few yards out, yet you'll be counting that as proof of your theory that we win if he starts.
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TheFair86 Posted on 13/02/2018 10:47

Bamford

 
Correlation does not imply causality. What was Bamford's player rating in those games? Looking at his last 10 games he has scored some 5.x player ratings

he played 90 minutes at Millwall, why did we lose?

he played 90 minutes against brighton, why did we lose?

78 mins and 63 mins Shef wed/norwich - why did we draw/lose?
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bear66 Posted on 13/02/2018 10:47

Bamford

 
It's points that determine your league position and with Leadbitter and Bamford starting we've got 2.2 points per game. It took Monk 4 months to work this out and he got sacked at just the wrong time as Pulis dropped him next match.
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hard_ Posted on 13/02/2018 10:50

Bamford

 
I work out they've started 8 games together. How do you get an average of 2.2?
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TheFair86 Posted on 13/02/2018 10:50

Bamford

 
Again, correlation does not imply causality. Can you detail what Bamford did in those wins to say that made us win those points? did he set up goals? did he score the goals that got us the points?

To turn it on its head someone posted that we had more points per game under Monk than Pulis, so should we sack Pulis and go back to Monk?
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viv_andersons_nana Posted on 13/02/2018 10:51

Bamford

 
Bamford is a striker. It'd be interesting to see him played as a striker for a run of games. Was he up front at Villa in the cup when he scored twice?
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bear66 Posted on 13/02/2018 10:56

Bamford

 
"Again, correlation does not imply causality. Can you detail what Bamford did in those wins to say that made us win those points? "

And when he's dropped, what is the excuse for the loser picked instead?
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bear66 Posted on 13/02/2018 10:57

Bamford

 
"I work out they've started 8 games together. How do you get an average of 2.2?"

9 games. 6 wins 1 draw 2 losses - my calculator is a half glass full type
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TheFair86 Posted on 13/02/2018 10:58

Bamford

 
Probably that Bamford played and didnt score again, despite everyone claiming he's a 20 goal striker. He is never a midfielder or a winger. Square peg round hole.

Do you think Wolves or Villa would buy him?
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hard_ Posted on 13/02/2018 11:00

Bamford

 
Ipswich Millwall Sheffield Wednesday Bolton QPR Sheffield Wednesday Norwich Reading

Which game am I missing?
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bear66 Posted on 13/02/2018 11:01

Bamford

 
If only he'd started versus those two matches.
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1finny Posted on 13/02/2018 11:17

Bamford

 
Iím a half full kind of guy but, blimey Bear - yer stretching it
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Marvanelli Posted on 13/02/2018 11:23

Bamford

 
Since Bolton. Pulis has been in charge of 7 league games.

Of those 7 league games. Bamford has started 4.

Of those 4 league games he has started. We have won 2, drawn 1 and lost 1.

Where on earth are you getting 2.2 points per game?

Home to Villa - Lost....but he was benched.
Away to Preston - Won....but he was benched.
Home to Fulham - Lost....but he was benched.
Away to QPR - Won....he started.
Home to Sheff Wed - Drew....he started.
Away to Norwich - Lost....he started.
Home to Reading - Won....he started.
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laughing Posted on 13/02/2018 11:45

Bamford

 
Bamford has had little or no impact in recent months. There is no correlation between points and Bamford.

I don't even see him offering much outside the box.
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Harbottle Posted on 13/02/2018 11:54

Bamford

 
Bamford has had little or no impact in recent years.
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TheFair86 Posted on 13/02/2018 12:00

Bamford

 
I am glad to see him getting a run of games but so far he has not shown that he deserves the starting place, but I think he is played out of position. He isn't a lone striker though, none of our forwards are, so bizarre that we force this system when we haven't got the players for it.

Monk was rightly slated for doing this.
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festa5 Posted on 13/02/2018 12:32

Bamford

 
He struggles to have an impact on the game from out wide. I also thought this was true in his first spell. The difference then was that he was chipping in with goals from there and he had Fredericks behind him bombing on and providing the width.

He's lost confidence that's evident, but you can see in patches that he's got talent. He does some nice stuff but just not often enough. He does look a bit lost at times.

I'd like to see him given a go as the lone striker. I agree he doesn't seem to be a natural fit there, he benefited a lot from Vossen. However I'm not sure I see what Gestede offers there either. Unlike Gestede he can control and pass a ball, offers better movement and does have the ability run in behind and stretch the defence. He won't win as many headers, but its not like Gestede is winning everything in the air either. How many of his flick ons even find a man? We'd certainly be more dangerous on the break.

While not a perfect solution I think Bamford would offer more than any of the other current options. You never know, it might work.
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wartle Posted on 13/02/2018 12:39

Bamford

 
We looked far worse on Saturday when he went off, thatís for sure.
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Tom_Fun Posted on 13/02/2018 12:39

Bamford

 
He was in a striker's position on Saturday when he missed the goal from about 3 yards out.
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Marvanelli Posted on 13/02/2018 12:40

Bamford

 
He's missed a lot of sitters this season.

The one against Sheff Wed could have won us the game.

2 points lost there [|)]
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laughing Posted on 13/02/2018 12:58

Bamford

 
we looked worse on Saturday because of reading's substitutions, not ours. Though I agree it was a strange substitution.
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dragged_up_in_whinneybanks Posted on 13/02/2018 13:07

Bamford

 
He needs someone to watch his runs and play him in. Him and Tomlin were telepathic. He has never been the same since Tomlin left.
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crocker Posted on 13/02/2018 13:20

Bamford

 
He is the equivalent of Hugh Grant in a pair of football shorts.
A total fop.
Done nothing for 3 years - and he has had his chances.
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AlbertoBongaloid Posted on 13/02/2018 13:20

Bamford

 
Anyone who thinks Bamford had no impact on they have on Saturday is a fool. Did you not see the way we capitated when he went off?
He does selfless work for the team and is a very clever footballer. He does not need to score to prove his worth
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festa5 Posted on 13/02/2018 13:22

Bamford

 
"he's missed a lot of sitters this season"

Define "a lot". He's missed some good chances, I don't think he's had that many though.

He's certainly missed no more than Gestede, Britt, Braithwaite or Fletcher. In fact it's a problem with all of the attacking players.

Given there's no alternatives we can't really avoid picking a striker who hasn't missed a lot of good chances this season. They all have.
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TheFair86 Posted on 13/02/2018 13:53

Bamford

 
IMO we should be picking the striker that has scored 12 goals, BUT we should not be leaving him a lone striker because we just don't do well in that situation. Much rather have Bamford and Assombalonga up front to work together, but I know we will probably start with Gestede or have Britt on from the off and take him off when he does rubbish in the system.
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VerymuchITK Posted on 13/02/2018 15:34

Bamford

 
This 2.2 points rubbish does my head in. There is no context behind it - who did we play - what did he contribute. Bamford is not good enough and the fact he is starting just shows the bareness of our squad. If he remains in the side we will finish a distant mid table - get him out if we are to have any chance and yes I really dislike him for being the rat that left us after the heartbreak of play off defeat and then rubbing our noses in it by joining the team that beat us - unforgivable UTB.
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laughing Posted on 13/02/2018 15:46

Bamford

 
Alberto that comment made me laugh.

I don't agree that Bamford's substitution had much of an impact, I suspect it was Reading's substitutions that made the difference, but even if it was Bamford going off, it was more the switch from forward to midfielder rather than Bamford going off. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a fool... See I can do that too.
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Wanderingstar Posted on 13/02/2018 16:33

Bamford

 
How people can berate bamford yet settle for the lay donkey that is gestede is a joke. If he wins a flick on that is it, doesn't make any effort to get into the box
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SimonDavidWilliamson Posted on 13/02/2018 16:39

Bamford

 
hes had a run of games now and has done a "job" playing wide left but cant help feel he should have done a bit more to cement his spot and chipped in with a couple goals, would have thought harrison is going to get a shot very soon and just cant see bamford as a pulis type striker.
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wombledon Posted on 13/02/2018 17:00

Bamford

 
I don't think many of our attackers deserve much credit this season.

We're into mid-February and there's a few of them on 1 league goal each. However you look at it, that's simply not good enough in the Championship.

Downing was our best player for a while but is still only on 1 goal.

Even Assombalonga, despite amassing 12 goals, has scored once since November.

Traore is now the man in form, but none of the other attackers seem to be contributing anywhere near to where we need them to be.

We can't keep relying on 1 attacker being in form like we seem to have done so far this season.
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Indeedido Posted on 13/02/2018 17:23

Bamford

 
Bear on the money and Wartle spot on.
Viv too - it would be interesting to see him played up front centrally, where he scored his goals for us last time.[^]
Much better than watching Gestede amble around aimlessly, or Britt playing a role he is not suited to.
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jonny2773 Posted on 13/02/2018 17:40

Bamford

 
He is rubbish, a one season wonder and it is about time people started to realise it.

You canít blame it on where he is playing because the last few games he has had some clear cut chances that he has spurned.

He will be gone in the summer, thank goodness!
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SmogOnOuseburn Posted on 13/02/2018 18:34

Bamford

 
He does not look the same player of 3 years ago.
[sad]
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BigmetsBoro86 Posted on 13/02/2018 20:27

Bamford

 
I know it's only speculation but I'm sure if he had his time again he would sign for us for another season after the playoff defeat.

I keep hoping he will find his form but he's starting to look more 'shot' with every game. I thought match fitness and a run of games would help and he's getting that and looking very poor (I know he's on the left).

He simply isn't strong enough to play up top on his own. I know he's out of form but I don't get why he's got weaker?

He will get a chance to get back to something like a few years ago due to the fact we only have 3 forwards. So he will soon run out of chances.

Let's be honest as it stands we are not getting anywhere near 6mil back on him.
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crocker Posted on 13/02/2018 20:31

Bamford

 
So what if hes on the left wing.
He scored most of his goals 3 years ago when he was playing right wing. He was certainly not played as an out and out centre forward.
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Easy_ Posted on 13/02/2018 20:36

Bamford

 
Crocker clearly didn't go to the games in 14/15. Course he was played as an out and out striker. Vossen behind him. He played on the right for about 2 months prior to Christmas.
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Witcher Posted on 13/02/2018 20:49

Bamford

 
hes not a left winger but neither is anybody else in the squad hence why he has to cover that position

his best position is probably sitting narrow on the right but lets face it, thats traores position
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We_Will Posted on 13/02/2018 20:59

Bamford

 
We all wanted Bamford to come back as he was the first time round, but he seems slower, weaker and lacks the passion to get forward. He has got whats left of the season to define his future.
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Indeedido Posted on 13/02/2018 21:05

Bamford

 
Usual crocker sh!t
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VerymuchITK Posted on 13/02/2018 21:08

Bamford

 
His future is Notts Forest followed by a series of mid table championship clubs when AK is sacked.Every player eventually finds their right level.
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crocker Posted on 13/02/2018 21:13

Bamford

 
Obviously - if you say so.
And Vossen started only 20 games - so that was hardly the regular formation.
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Easy_ Posted on 13/02/2018 21:19

Bamford

 
Even split with Tomlin. Fact is after Milwall in December they were the main 2.
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crocker Posted on 13/02/2018 21:25

Bamford

 
It must be wonderful to be know it alls - even when you dont. [:o)]
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Easy_ Posted on 13/02/2018 21:32
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Bamford

 
Well if you post things that aren't true you are gonna get called out on it. Bamford scored most of his goals as an out and out striker. That's a fact.
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RedSteptoe Posted on 13/02/2018 21:43

Bamford

 
Another day ,another set of excuses again:
he needs to play CF or a 10
Players are'nt reading his runs
He needs a run of games

He's shot at Championship level even, a forward who does not score goals , gets pushed off the ball, might look good on the eye at times .......but nothing happens on a regular basis, the problem of getting rid however will be ££££, because he aint here on 30 quid a week
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hopesoboro Posted on 13/02/2018 21:56

Bamford

 
Let's hope all you miserable beggars are wrong. If we can hit a bit of form i can see Bamford, Britt and Rudy all making big contributions for us getting into playoffs.
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Easy_ Posted on 13/02/2018 21:56

Bamford

 
Stop copying and pasting the same post, steptoe. We all know he 'ain't' on 30 quid a week.
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hopesoboro Posted on 13/02/2018 21:57

Bamford

 
Let's hope all you miserable beggars are wrong. If we can hit a bit of form i can see Bamford, Britt and Rudy all making big contributions for us getting into playoffs.
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hopesoboro Posted on 13/02/2018 21:58

Bamford

 
Echo!
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RedSteptoe Posted on 13/02/2018 22:03

Bamford

 
thats the point , he is on big money & as such that alone will stop any interest .....
You keep believing he will come good , the facts every season aside from 2 seasons years ago prove otherwise.


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Easy_ Posted on 13/02/2018 22:05

Bamford

 
If it stops any interest then I'll be delighted [^]
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