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Adi_Dem Posted on 13/01/2018 18:18
How did we lose that?
 
 
Well, he short answer is profligate finishing and woeful refereeing.

It was actually a pretty enjoyable game. We played well and created by far and away the better chances. We could and should have been two or three up at half time. Second half Braithwaite and Britt should have scored and we had an absolutely clear cut penalty denied.

To top it off we lose because of one of the most woeful decisions youíre likely to see. If thatís a pen and Braithewaiteís isnt then we might as well pack in and go home.

Nice and solid defensively today. Howson really good in midfield as well. Traore was my man of the match. Thought he was excellent.

The less said about Gestede the better. Jesus wept.
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Pogatetz_Ate_My_Hamster_ Posted on 13/01/2018 18:21

How did we lose that?

 
Totally agree.

Played well, had three golden chances and missed them all.

If I was to call Gestede a cart horse it would be disrespectful to cart horses.
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OPEO Posted on 13/01/2018 18:21

How did we lose that?

 
Gestede is streets ahead of Johnson.
Bamford didn't show.
I'm baffled.
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Exiled_in_Herford Posted on 13/01/2018 18:21

How did we lose that?

 
Pretty much agree with all of that. [^]
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jeff_potato Posted on 13/01/2018 18:23

How did we lose that?

 
There were some good individual performances. Traore, Downing and Howson played very well.

We even saw flashes of one touch attacking play... until it got anywhere near Gestede. Much less stop, trap and look up for a pass when receiving the ball.

We are desperate for clinical players. £20m+ on Bamford, Fletcher, Gestede and Johnson? You'd breathe a sigh of relief if they came off the bench.
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Easy_ Posted on 13/01/2018 18:23

How did we lose that?

 
The first half was thoroughly enjoyable. We really got after them and played some incisive, direct football. Second half I thought they used the ball far better than we did. It was apparent in the first 5 minutes of the second half that we couldn't get a hold of the ball. Still, we created a great chance and should've had a penalty. Draw would've been the fairest result.
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paulwilko10 Posted on 13/01/2018 18:26

How did we lose that?

 
They were both penalties

There's was soft but still a pen, Grant should not have given the ref a decision to make however the player did make a meal of it.

Ours, well, it was so obvious, I can only think the ref just had a moment that he will look back on and think, how on earth have i got that so wrong!

We played well in first half, but the second was totally different.
Traore on the left is a waste and it showed.
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RavsDad Posted on 13/01/2018 18:30

How did we lose that?

 
Traore was eye-catching the entire time he was on. Even defended pretty intelligently most of the time. Did more to influence the game than anyone else. All that is true but we didn't do anything with it. Braithwaite was awful and Gestede's two misses were frankly appalling.

We were ok defensively until Fulham turned up the volume with their subs. Then we were hanging on. We could have shipped two goals before the penalty so to say we played well is high praise indeed.
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Adi_Dem Posted on 13/01/2018 18:31

How did we lose that?

 
He actually improved us in the second half when he moved to the left because he saw more of the ball so I didnít see it the same way as you.

Theirís was nowhere near a penalty. No chance.
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Easy_ Posted on 13/01/2018 18:34

How did we lose that?

 
Looking at it on the replay it looks like Grant might have just caught him on his toe. Can't blame the ref for giving it. As soon as it happened I thought penalty.

Quite how he didn't give ours when he was looking straight at it is mystifying. Shocking decision.
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paulwilko10 Posted on 13/01/2018 18:34

How did we lose that?

 
"so I didnít see it the same way as you"
You shock me [cr]
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London_smoggie Posted on 13/01/2018 18:39

How did we lose that?

 
WE lost because we were poor.

Dominated possession but did nothing with it. Not sure we had a shot on target.

Game plan was give it to traore. Once they sussed it we went long and allowed them to creep higher up.

Great away display. Poor home one
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Easy_ Posted on 13/01/2018 18:41

How did we lose that?

 
We didn't dominate possession at all, in fact, Fulham had the lions share.
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LOCOMANSIMON Posted on 13/01/2018 18:42

How did we lose that?

 
I thought we stopped playing when Traore and Braithwaite swapped sides, and how Gestede gets a game is beyond me, absolute donkey.
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wartle Posted on 13/01/2018 18:59

How did we lose that?

 
Spot on as usual adi.

Gestede was appalling.
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LeeMiller Posted on 13/01/2018 19:14

How did we lose that?

 
How?

Quite simple
Four one on ones led to no shot in target
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London_smoggie Posted on 13/01/2018 19:16
Edited On: 13/01/2018 19:16
How did we lose that?

 
HOw you can put a poitive spin on that adi is beyond belief.

Perfect away display.

We didnít even make the keeper make a save
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Easy_ Posted on 13/01/2018 19:22

How did we lose that?

 
I'm wondering if you even watched the game smoggie. Claiming we dominated possession suggests that you didn't.
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Adi_Dem Posted on 13/01/2018 19:22

How did we lose that?

 
We hand 4 one v ones L_S. They had no chances. Thatís how. Simple really.
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London_smoggie Posted on 13/01/2018 19:24

How did we lose that?

 
Dominating possession doesnít mean u had the ball more. Itís means u dominated the attacking areas of the pitch which we did for the majority. They barely got out of their half for the first 30 mins.

Possession isnít just the ball but territory
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Chappy112 Posted on 13/01/2018 19:25

How did we lose that?

 
What is our fans obsession with shots on target?
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Fuchsache Posted on 13/01/2018 19:26

How did we lose that?

 
The Mackey ref really didn't help [:(][:(]
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OPEO Posted on 13/01/2018 19:26

How did we lose that?

 
Smoggie is a gloating troll. Some things never change. Never ever has anything positive to say about Boro. Horrible specimen.
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Easy_ Posted on 13/01/2018 19:27

How did we lose that?

 
That's the biggest load of shÓt I've read in a long long time. Well done pal.
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JLinardi Posted on 13/01/2018 19:27

How did we lose that?

 
We had no shots on target because of poor finishing not because we didn't create any openings.

When braithwaite had his chance in the 2nd half of Adama had got into the box instead of watching from the edge he could have had a tap in.
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hewielewie Posted on 13/01/2018 19:27

How did we lose that?

 
No, possession means possession of the ball
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Fabios_porkpie_provider Posted on 13/01/2018 19:28

How did we lose that?

 
I donít get how people can say we were poor today, given whatís been served up this season already. We were brilliant first half! On occasion, aspects of our play were poor, like the odd wayward cross and not obviously not taking our opportunities, and the last 15 we clearly tired after playing a hard pressing game in the first half, but aside from that I just donít see how people can say we were Ďpoorí.
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sasboro1 Posted on 13/01/2018 19:29
Edited On: 13/01/2018 20:05
How did we lose that?

 
Another 1-0 home defeat to a top half side.

Quite simply there just isn't enough goals in this squad and the 2 strikers who may get the goals were on the bench. ( Something monk would have got hammered for)We struggled to hold the ball up.


Fulham had more of the possession and looked comfortable keeping hold of the ball. Felt like we were the away side in the 2nd half.

Pulis needs to sort a plan B out
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1finny Posted on 13/01/2018 19:29

How did we lose that?

 
No shots on target - thatís why we lost

If Pog had seen that under Karanka at home heíd have been going mental

But.........its different [:D]

People see what they want to see
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London_smoggie Posted on 13/01/2018 19:29

How did we lose that?

 
We lost multiple games under Monk by wasting chances. There was nothing today that was a positive. We as fans sometimes try to draw positives under a new manager when the same failures we wanted the previous manager to leave still exist.

We were poor adi. We just work harder for the first 30 mins then retreated to type and lost.

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Chappy112 Posted on 13/01/2018 19:33

How did we lose that?

 
If you thought that was like a Monk performance then youíre barmy.
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1finny Posted on 13/01/2018 19:34

How did we lose that?

 
[^]
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RC92 Posted on 13/01/2018 19:34

How did we lose that?

 
The penalty awarded was a very, very poor decision. However, if I were a Fulham fan I would have been just as annoyed if the Braithwaite penalty was given.
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London_smoggie Posted on 13/01/2018 19:35

How did we lose that?

 
Itís not easy itís a fact. Itís one of those things fans misunderstand. Watch other ball games to understand what dominating possession means. You can dominate the ball or you can press a team in their own half and dominate possession of the key areas

If thatís the biggest load of bs you even read Iíd ask you to read over your Forshaw for england posts. [;)]

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Adi_Dem Posted on 13/01/2018 19:38

How did we lose that?

 
So your view is that we dominated possession territorially (your words), we created at least four golden chances, we had a clear penalty turned down m, conceded no real chances and the man of the match was our winger who was excellent throughout yet we were poor?

Ok. Each to their own.
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parmoboy Posted on 13/01/2018 19:38

How did we lose that?

 
I couldn't understand moving Traore to the left, especially after him being such a threat in the first half, starting on the right. It doesn't work having him on the left cos he just ends up running himself into trouble when he tries to cut inside.
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London_smoggie Posted on 13/01/2018 19:44

How did we lose that?

 
Traore was great for 30 mins. Other that that as a team we we as uncohisive as we were under Monk.

Itís esrly days but as soon as they blocked the ball to Traore we just punted it long.

We need to offer more than that at home.

Yes we could of scored a few but no one won a game on that.

It was poor and TP has a massive job on his hands
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sasboro1 Posted on 13/01/2018 19:45

How did we lose that?

 
Our record against top half sides is terrible and continued today. 5 home defeats without scoring a goal this season. Maybe this squad isnt actually good enough and that's why pulis hasn't mention much about winning the playoffs or going up
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Chappy112 Posted on 13/01/2018 19:46

How did we lose that?

 
ďOther that that as a team we we as uncohisive as we were under Monk.Ē

Garbage.
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TheInstigator Posted on 13/01/2018 19:49

How did we lose that?

 
Boolocks, Boro we're great today, dominated and should have had the game dusted by half time. Tony Pulis...give him a 5 year contract.
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Easy_ Posted on 13/01/2018 19:51

How did we lose that?

 
Forshaw for England posts? They don't exist mate. Nice try at deflecting though. Desperately clawing at anything to make the assertion that we dominated possession correct just shows you up even further. I'm gonna go on whoscored and check out how we did territorially, just for a laugh.
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expat_smoggie Posted on 13/01/2018 19:55

How did we lose that?

 
Donít score ó donít win games ó simple as that really. Pullis has a go at players for the right reasons ó they get paid to score ó instead they cost us big time.
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London_smoggie Posted on 13/01/2018 19:55

How did we lose that?

 
You really need a humour transplant easy.

Iíd spend my sat night looking up stats for the craic but Iíve got a weasel to be greased

Lighten up mate seriously
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Easy_ Posted on 13/01/2018 19:59

How did we lose that?

 
Yeah as I thought, you're talking out of your arsŤ. As per.
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Wanderingstar Posted on 13/01/2018 20:01

How did we lose that?

 
We lost that game because Gestede missed two simple chances in the first half that either Britt, or bamford would have buried. Useless
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London_smoggie Posted on 13/01/2018 20:03

How did we lose that?

 
If youíd of thought chief Iíd of smelt the burning.



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edinboro Posted on 13/01/2018 20:05

How did we lose that?

 
Iím amazed a Sunderland fan can be appointed to ref a Boro match. Surely that should never be allowed to happen? Goals change games and if we get and score a penalty we win.

Also, just after their left back gets booked for elbowing Braithwaite in the head. Surely thatís a red? So theyíre down to 10 men as well.

We should have scored but frankly the rules of the game should have made sure we had a penalty and a man advantage.

So frustrating. I hope Pulis this weeks goes to Steve with his list of ins and outs. Get the squad finished and mail our place in the play offs.
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Easy_ Posted on 13/01/2018 20:06

How did we lose that?

 
I'd have*

Literacy and your understanding of football terminology taking a queer owld beating, son.
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Witcher Posted on 13/01/2018 20:07

How did we lose that?

 
0 shots on target, that's why we lost


As much as we want to blame the ref, and he was culpable for at least 1 goal in our favour, we cannot keep drawing blanks in home games vs the better sides and look for excuses

5 strikers at the club and not one of them is worth a place on form
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bear66 Posted on 13/01/2018 20:08

How did we lose that?

 
One of them is. And the other scores enough to get the nod. He plays the other two.
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uncle_rico Posted on 13/01/2018 20:10

How did we lose that?

 
I doubt L_S has ever been to the Riverside.

Anyone who was there today knows that we played well, first half especially, and for poornfinishing from a Gestede we shouldíve won. Plenty of positives to take from today, and Iíll be very disappointed if we arenít comfortably in the playoff spots in May.
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sasboro1 Posted on 13/01/2018 20:13
Edited On: 13/01/2018 20:14
How did we lose that?

 
I wouldn't say we played well in 2nd half. We were like an away side and it was all Fulham passing it about in our half. There we a few times when Fulham passed it around for while and we couldn't get it off them. Our defence was sold though

To reach top 7 we will have to start doing better against the team in top half.
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London_smoggie Posted on 13/01/2018 20:17

How did we lose that?

 
Haha if you have to attempt to humiliate me over the common misuse of of instead of have Iíd hazard a guess youíve got little in your tank.

Susie Dent would probably give u a reach around for that. Youíd probably cum by the end of the 30 seconds too Iíd guess. Most virgins do [;)]
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London_smoggie Posted on 13/01/2018 20:18

How did we lose that?

 
Youíre right Uncle Iíve never beeen to the riverside. What about it?
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Easy_ Posted on 13/01/2018 20:21

How did we lose that?

 
When one attempts to undermine my ability to think, I think it's only fair I take apart their ability to form a coherent sentence. Not to mention I've already demolished your assertion that we dominated possession.

Glad you're back LS... I've missed laughing at you.
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Uncle_Marbles Posted on 13/01/2018 20:29
Edited On: 13/01/2018 20:33
How did we lose that?

 
Ref
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Stabilo_Boss Posted on 13/01/2018 21:06

How did we lose that?

 
40% possession and zero shots on target at home. Can't help thinking if Monk was in charge, some people's analysis of that game might be a little different.

Anyhow, the missed chances are ultimately due to a lack of quality which again suggests our squad is not as good as people have been telling us all season.
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Indeedido Posted on 13/01/2018 21:21

How did we lose that?

 
I enjoyed the first half and I thought we deserved to have been at least 2 up. Gestede should have delivered that.

I thought Fulham played well second half and we fell off significantly.
Both were penalties, both soft.
We did miss 4 good one v one chances and ultimately took a sucker punch.

I thought Leadbitter, Braithwaite and the awful Gestede were weak links today, but many others played well (Traore, Downing especially)
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JLinardi Posted on 13/01/2018 21:33

How did we lose that?

 
It was similar to the Derby game for me, we played well in the first half but I wouldn't say we were 'brilliant'.

If we were brilliant we'd have put some chances away.
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jcjc Posted on 13/01/2018 22:03

How did we lose that?

 
how does johnson get in front of bamford
he would be lucky to break into hartlepool 11
tony wake up we all can see he gives nothing
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OPEO Posted on 13/01/2018 22:05

How did we lose that?

 
London your craic is worthless.
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TrappaTony Posted on 13/01/2018 22:32

How did we lose that?

 
Excellent summary Adi but if anybody didn't attend and relied on the Channel 5 coverage they would hardly recognise your description.

They missed one of Gestede's shocking misses and also failed to show the elbow into Braithwaites's face that was clearly a red card offence.

It was all about Fulham who stole the points and their show.
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changingman Posted on 13/01/2018 23:25

How did we lose that?

 
To use a well worn cliche it was a game of two halves for me today.

Thought we looked good first half (albeit without testing the keeper). Direct football with plenty of movement and pinned them back well.

Second half Fulham started to hit their stride (underperformed for me first half). We fell into a rigid defensive shape and kept things tight, largely relying on counters to cause them problems.

Braithwaite incident was nailed on for me - can't actually remember seeing a more blatant penalty in a long time.

I did think theirs was a penalty too though - looks to me like there was contact and even if the lad milked it, he's entitled to.

Whoscored had Traore as MOM, I'd be tempted to agree with them.
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Ticker_Tape Posted on 14/01/2018 04:35

How did we lose that?

 
Enjoyed the game,looks like we are on the the right tracks IMHO.
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JLinardi Posted on 14/01/2018 05:01

How did we lose that?

 
The problem for me in the 2nd half was we were moving the ball forwards far to fast, if pulis wants the wide players to get back and cover the full backs then they're going to need time to make runs up the pitch before playing the ball up there.

I spent some of the 2nd half watching traore and he was pretty much just doing shuttle runs, he ran back to cover the full back, just as he arrived we won the ball back and were playing it forward so he was already behind the play.

He would make a run forwards but because we were so deep Britt had no support so by the time traore had got forward we had lost the ball and back he went to cover the full back and the process repeated, no wonder he was knackered.

It was crazy watching our midfield just drop off 25 yards when their defenders got the ball. If your going to play that deep at 0-0 with 3 cms do you really need your wide players coming back so deep to cover aswell?
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bear66 Posted on 14/01/2018 07:45

How did we lose that?

 
In the first half two forward players, Gestede and Downing forced the defenders into mistakes making the picking up of balls by the deeper midfield easy. This stored in the second half. Were they too tired to play a two half pressing game?
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mwelolo Posted on 14/01/2018 09:25

How did we lose that?

 
We lost that game because our players were not good enough to win it.

Another home defeat for which they would be roundly criticised if Monk was still at the helm.

Traore went on a number of of runs but again this ultimately led to nothing.

Strikers couldnít hit a cowís ar$e with a banjo.

Pullis seems to have made us more solid at the bach, as you would expect but we are still short of genuine creative quality.

The squad is not good enough and we will not go up unless it is improved.
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TrappaTony Posted on 14/01/2018 09:37

How did we lose that?

 
he's entitled to.

To do what? I think you mean dive i.e. cheat.

In any other sport cheats are roundly condemned but in the corrupt culture of football it is an entitlement - the lunatics have taken over the asylum and it is embarrassing [:(]
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big-eggo Posted on 14/01/2018 12:44

How did we lose that?

 
Apart from the finishing I thought our first half performance was good. Traore ran Sessegnon ragged and kept him pinned back.
We seemed to come unstuck when he pulled him to the left side in the second half. He was not as effective and Sessegnon was then free to get forward with good effect.

In the Legends Lounge Gordon McQueen was asked about Gestede by Bernie. "He's a big fella, but thats all he is" Cannot argue with that.
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