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paulwilko10 Posted on 26/12/2017 15:52
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Please explain why you signed up to the club?

He is awful today and has been every game except the first one he played 3 weeks back.

I don't get it.

He is average, his shooting is poor, his overall play is bang average.
Please explain what I'm missing.

I know he'll score 2 in the second half though lol and I hope he does
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brattleboro Posted on 26/12/2017 15:54

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on todays performance anyone would not have any cause for complaint if anyyone was subbed at half time,bamford has been very poor along with braithwaite,and assombalongo[|)]
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Adi_Dem Posted on 26/12/2017 16:00

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Youíre the only one fixated on Bamford paul. Donít have a clue why. Judging him on the basis of a few starts in a row (in which weíve won 2, heís scored and created a goal and heís generally looked miles better than Fletcher) is as idiotic as Monk leaving him out in favour of much worse players.

Youíve just got to try and understand the arguments that were being put forward rather than write over the top ridiculous posts like this one.

The argument being put forward was that he is one of our best forwards and ought to have been at least in the squad ahead of spuds like Fletcher. It was also argued that he needed a run of a dozen games to see if he could get back to his very best and to give him the opportunity to do so.

No fan club. None of the hyperbolic nonsense youíve created here. Just a very simple and entirely reasonable opinion.

But yes heís been poor today. Iím pleased youíre pleased.
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paulwilko10 Posted on 26/12/2017 16:04

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Yes, I'm over the moon that one of our players is not playing well. What an idiotic statement. Seems to be your issue when someone does not agree with you adi.

I am simply saying and with good reason, that Bamford has not done as well as the ones going on about him assumed he would.

If you think Bamford has done well since his come back, then that's your opinion. I don't agree with it.
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Easy_ Posted on 26/12/2017 16:07

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Why single Bamford out?
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emphony Posted on 26/12/2017 16:12

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The majority of posts say he needs a good run of games to get to his best, not that he is currently playing amazing. What people also point out is that the lads that have been ahead of him in the squad, whether thatís starting 11 or on the bench, have not been doing enough to keep him out of the squad.

Got to love this board though, people love jumping to the extremes.
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paulwilko10 Posted on 26/12/2017 16:13

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Because he was singled out as the teams saviour by all the monk out brigade.
I was not part of that brigade and am now making them aware that Bamford is not the answer, and not the reason we were playing poorly
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Easy_ Posted on 26/12/2017 16:14

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Ah I see, you have an agenda. Fair play.
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Adi_Dem Posted on 26/12/2017 16:16

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I have an issue when someone disagrees and yet youíre the one dedicating threads to a Bamford fan club to prove yourself right?

And Iím being idiotic?

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paulwilko10 Posted on 26/12/2017 16:33

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Adi, you are correct
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Easy_ Posted on 26/12/2017 16:36
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Bamford has been back in the side for 4 games. We've won 3 of them. Coincidence? I think not.
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trugdish Posted on 26/12/2017 16:43

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Aren't we all Bamford fan club members?

Given that he plays for club we all purport to support
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hopesoboro Posted on 26/12/2017 16:48

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Dear right trugg - similarly with Gestede.
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paulwilko10 Posted on 26/12/2017 16:50

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Easy, so had Shotton, well, 2 of them, so your point is?
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RedSteptoe Posted on 26/12/2017 16:52

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& its the same team Gary Monk picked too........pulis out[;)] whats he done?
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streetwise Posted on 26/12/2017 16:52

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Quite an occasion for Gestede to be on a winning side.
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Easy_ Posted on 26/12/2017 16:56

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My point is simple, Paul. We are a better team with Bamford in it.
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Harbottle Posted on 26/12/2017 16:57

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Never rated Bamford
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Easy_ Posted on 26/12/2017 16:59

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Even when he banged in 19 goals in 14/15? You still didn't rate him? Haha classic
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Jumpingjack Posted on 26/12/2017 17:00

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I like the positions Bamford takes up, he offers us something different, (intelligent player) but he had a shocker today.
Onwards and upwards.
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Chappy112 Posted on 26/12/2017 17:03

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Bamford is a good player and definitely should have got more time on the pitch than he was earlier in the season but the way people were going on about him when he wasnít in the side was laughable.
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Easy_ Posted on 26/12/2017 17:06

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You'll have to explain 'how people were going on' so I can understand why it was laughable. Doubt you will though.
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RedSteptoe Posted on 26/12/2017 17:13

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838 mins played ...1 league goal , not good enough for a man who likes his stats like TP?
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Chappy112 Posted on 26/12/2017 17:18

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"You'll have to explain 'how people were going on' so I can understand why it was laughable. Doubt you will though."

There was a thread on here every time he wasn't on the bench or didn't come on. Like I said he's good player but if I look at our line up and he's not in it I'm not like "OH MY GOD THE MANAGER IS CRAZY!!!".
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Tuncaythefunguy Posted on 26/12/2017 17:20

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Tbf Assombalonga amd Bamford looked off the pace but both could have had a goal. They were a threat regardless. Good to see Britt score.

Bamford prob not played two games in 4 days for a while so understandable.

Btw some players are allowed off days or bad games. Pathetic to highlight this after a win btw.

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Easy_ Posted on 26/12/2017 17:24

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That's because he's far better than the players that were being picked in front of him so I can't see how it was laughable. Maybe you chose the wrong word.
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Adi_Dem Posted on 26/12/2017 17:34

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No there wasnít chappy. The manager was often rightly questioned for not picking him. There was none of the hyperbole you allude to. Youíre falling into the same trap as the OP; creating a straw man that doesnít exist.

@paulwilko - a very telling comeback. Now put the shovel down.
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Chappy112 Posted on 26/12/2017 17:52

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Yes there was. Youíve even admitted the manager was often criticised about it which is exactly what Iím saying, it was after every game that he wasnít involved in, often when the team was announced.

Heís a good player but Britt is a better striker and then it depends on the system youíre playing as to whether or not he gets in.
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Easy_ Posted on 26/12/2017 17:56

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Is Britt a better striker? I'm not convinced.
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festa5 Posted on 26/12/2017 17:56

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He was poor today yet still caused Bolton problems and made stuff happen. Just too many unforced mistakes from him.

If you can't see what Bamford offers you probably need to take up a simpler sport.
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hopesoboro Posted on 26/12/2017 18:04

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Gawd,not more from Easy and Adi.Can we cope!?[:D]
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Foggysfplandiet3 Posted on 26/12/2017 18:05

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Some of the downers some people on here have on Bamford are the stuff of the AP Chicken Run.
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fridgeman Posted on 26/12/2017 18:07

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If you like your stats it would be very interesting to find out our win percentage in all the games Bamford has started , I think it will be very high.

He didnt have his best game but was always looking for the ball and was no worse than seven other players today, only Shotton, Braithwaite and Downing stood out so how about a
Leadbitter
Christie
Gibson
Fabio
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Assombolonga
Randolph
And you could add Goerge to that list of

FAN CLUB....the point is you can't single out Bamford without looking a little bias against the lad when none of the others played any better.
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Tuncaythefunguy Posted on 26/12/2017 18:12

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Braithwaite was poor in spells.

Howson was decent today and Leadbitter controlled the midfield.

Downing 3 stars
Shotton 2 stars
Leadbitter 1 Star.
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Easy_ Posted on 26/12/2017 18:13

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Fridge man [^]
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parmoboy Posted on 26/12/2017 18:15

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Bamford was poor today. Gave the ball away time and time again, and poor decision in the first half when Britt played him through and he decided to take a touch rather than shoot first time. Still, let's not forget he was motm vs Ipswich.
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Borocelt Posted on 26/12/2017 18:18

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He showed some flashes, but then lost the ball quite a bit as well. A very mixed bag.

Mind, Assombalonga was even worse, yet pinged one in, so fine margins and all that.
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Adi_Dem Posted on 26/12/2017 18:20

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Yes the manager was criticised with reasonable and well reasoned arguments. Not the hyperbole alluded to. Which is what I said.

There is no Bamford fan club. There is no hyperbole. All that has been argued is that he is a very good forward in need of games and that he deserves those games ahead of most of the players selected instead of him.

I think we are a better team with him in it. It isnít any more complicated an argument than that.
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Easy_ Posted on 26/12/2017 19:13

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Fridgeman, this is our record with and without Bamford starting.

He's had 8 starts. Won 5, drew 1, lost 2

Without him starting we've got 6 wins, 4 draws, 6 defeats.

I've had a bit to drink so can't be chewed working out the respective percentages but at face value it looks obvious we are better when Bamford starts.
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Indeedido Posted on 26/12/2017 19:19

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I am a huge Bamford admirer, but even I would accept he had a poor match today.
But whilst nothing went right, he worked hard and never hid. He is the best player in our forward options, that's why so many are pleased to see him in the team.

Paulwilko10 and RedSteptoe seem to be the ones in a fan club, albeit a weird one.
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fridgeman Posted on 26/12/2017 19:30

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[^]easy imagine you add the year we got to the play offs to that too.
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Foggysfplandiet3 Posted on 26/12/2017 19:38

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Having hardly got a start under Monk, Bamford has one poor game and people are on him like a ton of bricks. They must be so proud of themselves.

The Chicken runners are alive and well. Sadly.
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RedSteptoe Posted on 26/12/2017 19:46

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yes , the one where a lad has 12 goals already not 1 in nearly 900 minutes , But if Britt don't score or Braithwaite , Mr Bamford ain't exactly ripping up trees goalwise. If people think TP won't be bringing it up they are the ones not seeing the facts, one things certain he will have to score more for this bloke
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Ticker_Tape Posted on 26/12/2017 19:49
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Bamford wasn't alone, up until Braithwaite scored he was a dead loss, Britt had all the control of a bollard, but scored a cracker.

Bamford played for himself a little bit to much today and let to much go by him.
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myfooty Posted on 26/12/2017 19:54

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I know Bamford had one of those games today where almost everything he did went wrong but he needs to be given the chance.

He is still finding his feet since returning to Boro and people seem to forgetting he is only 24. He's only played in 19 of our 24 league game so far this season. People seem to forget he's already scored 1 league goal.
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RedSteptoe Posted on 26/12/2017 19:57

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[;)]
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Adi_Dem Posted on 26/12/2017 20:08

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I love the basic way some folk think. No goals scored = rubbish. Itís just nonsense.

Bamford was awful today. Truly dreadful. Yet he still had three of our best chances.
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Ticker_Tape Posted on 26/12/2017 20:16

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i think there will be a few to roll their sleeves up and look for more consistency in their game.

Bamford wasn't the only one who was poor at times.
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myfooty Posted on 26/12/2017 20:17
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I agree he was unlucky not to score from the 6 or 7 chances he had today.
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Easy_ Posted on 26/12/2017 20:42

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I like how his critics are ignoring the fact that our win ratio is much better when he starts. Bamford is the type of player that needs consistent games to get him to his best. That was the case in 14/15 and it's still the case now. He's hit the bar, the post, scored, won a penalty, created glorious chances for Braithwaite and Britt, all in the last 4 games. Some of you wouldn't know a footballer as long as you've got a hole in your arsŤ.
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Ticker_Tape Posted on 26/12/2017 20:45

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[:D]
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the_holgate_roof Posted on 26/12/2017 20:47

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should he brought Traore on for Bamford, playing him down the middles, he would have walked past the centre halfs...
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UAUA Posted on 26/12/2017 23:50

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That was one of the worst performances I've seen for years from a Boro player.
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Easy_ Posted on 26/12/2017 23:52

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Haha what a load of shÓte that is 👆
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wartle Posted on 27/12/2017 00:01

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Even when Bamford isnít having a good game like today, his general movement drags he opposition out of shape allowing space for others.

We are a far better team with Bamford in it. In fact now we are starting to see a settled 11 we are looking a lot more fluid.
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Boro_Legend Posted on 27/12/2017 00:36

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[smi][smi][smi]
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Afonso Posted on 27/12/2017 01:18

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Best forward on the pitch today. Looked for the ball and tried to make things happen which didnít

I know Braithwaite and Assombalonga scores but they were dreadful.
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paulwilko10 Posted on 27/12/2017 01:31

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Just because in your opinion he was the best forward in the pitch, does not mean he played well, he was atrocious today.

I know he can play about better but let's see what Mr pulis thinks of him over a period of time.
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OPEO Posted on 27/12/2017 08:50

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Paul, I would give you my vote if your"re applying to be the next village idiot after boro legend.[:o)]
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the_holgate_roof Posted on 27/12/2017 08:59

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Bamford was pretty ineffective and when he did get the chance to deliver, he couldn't finish.....he did himself no favours today with the new manager in the stand, Downing however I'm sure will be the first name on the teamsheet.
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BoroBen92 Posted on 27/12/2017 09:00
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Braithwaite, Britt and Bamford were all disappointing yesterday.

All lost the ball and fluffed a lot of passes/chances, I was most disappointed with Britt so I'm glad he grabbed a good goal before he was hooked.
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Indeedido Posted on 27/12/2017 09:00

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I see UAUA has met up with his weird club on this thread with Red Steptoe and Paulwilko.

Easy really does nail things with the results bit.
Adi and others nail it with the effect Bamford has on the team.

Very good player is Patrick Bamford and we are lucky to have him.
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fridgeman Posted on 27/12/2017 09:13

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Just because in your opinion he was the best forward in the pitch, does not mean he played well, he was atrocious today.

I know he can play about better but let's see what Mr pulis thinks of him over a period of time

Not wanting to be sarcastic but isnt your post a contradiction? as in just because in your opinion you thought he played poorly doesnt mean he was atrocious, I actually thought he played well...yeah he has played better but he was a thorn in their side all game and as usual he had very good movement.
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Muttley Posted on 27/12/2017 09:14

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Not his best game but there was nothing wrong with his attempted finish, the keeper made a very good save to keep it out. Compared with some of Britt's "one-on-ones" and I know who I'd rather have bearing down on an opposition keeper. His confidence seemed to dip after that but he was still a positive influence on the team and the fact he was still on the pitch at the end should be a vote of confidence for him.
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Adi_Dem Posted on 27/12/2017 09:58

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A lot of posters jumping the shark recently. Paul the latest in a long line of posters writing nonsense, contradicting themselves and not having the good grace to put the shovel down.
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Exiled_in_Herford Posted on 27/12/2017 10:38

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I thought he was poor yesterday. That said, he still showed for the ball, and with more composure could have had a couple, but that only comes from mins on the pitch. Big month ahead for the lad. I think he could go on a run of goals. Time will tell.
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hopesoboro Posted on 27/12/2017 10:50

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From these post I'm amazed we managed to win the game with so many 'dreadful' players!
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coluka Posted on 27/12/2017 10:52

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Firstly, I acknowledge he had a poor game yesterday, nothing came off for him. However, he is the most intelligent forward in our team and is the best at moving around and dropping off his markers to create space to receive the ball. He does this much better than others. He needs game time. I think he probably was trying a little too hard yesterday if anything.

He reminds me of Downing in his personality in so far as he is a confidence player that needs the arm round the shouldr and encouraged rather than the kick up the backside. He has played his part in some vital wins and I am sure goals will come in the second half of the season. He links up our forwards and midfield better than anyone.

I know Britt has the ability to score some lovely goals like he did yesterday, but other than that, he has offered very little to the team of late but gets no criticism. I acknowledge him as a vital player though despite that as he is a natural scorer and without his goals we would be in trouble
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bear66 Posted on 27/12/2017 11:25

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By far not the worst player yesterday but that is a winning team so keep it together, I hope.
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paulwilko10 Posted on 27/12/2017 12:15

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"A lot of posters jumping the shark recently"
I'm sure you knew what you meant by that!

Look, let's get this straight, I want and hope Bamford has a cracking rest of the season.

I am just pointing out that before Bamford got his latest run of games, this Board was full of Bamford in Posts, Adi, you as vocal as anyone!

I am just saying that he has simply not played as good as what those people that wanted him would have you believe.

He did not play well yesterday, he did not play well at Millwall, his only decent game was his first one and even then it was only for 70 mins which if course is acceptable.

Yesterday he was more a hindrance than a help. He gave the ball away so many times, his distribution was awful, yet because we won, its because he is in the team!
That is garbage.

As people quickly pointed out, we won despite Monk being in charge not because of him, that was the case yesterday, we won despite a few poor perfomances including Bamford.

Personally I would say Shotton has had as much say in our latest results, he has been decent.

There you go, just my opinion which no doubt will not be shared by the majority

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bear66 Posted on 27/12/2017 12:31

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I thought we've finally got to our best team with him in it.

Yesterday he gave the ball away in more difficult areas less than Howson.

His through ball early on to Braithwaite deserved more.

11 players make a team and even though Braithwaite and, particularly, Assombalonga didn't have good games yesterday, they both contributed to our win.
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Muttley Posted on 27/12/2017 12:35

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You want to watch him a little more carefully, your observation that "he gave the ball away so many times, his distribution was awful" is true on the surface but you have to look at what he was attempting, at his positioning and how his movement is contributing to the team. I'm not trying to say that he was actually "good" just that he wasn't "bad".

In other words you are entitled to your opinion, but if we disagree with that opinion, if your opinion appears to be more concerned with scoring points (as your chosen title suggests) then you are going to be "corrected". Bamford, for all his failings yesterday made us a better team than without him. But that's just my opinion.

Oh and no-one has denied Shotton played well including people like me who were aghast to see him start against Sheff Wed after the way he performed in his debut. We have eaten humble pie over that. I suspect if you continue with this silliness there will be a plateful for you in the next week or two.
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Nothing wrong with having an opinion Paul. I am a fan of Paddy and he was agreed poor yesterday, but so was Britt and Braithwaite imho too. They both scored a great goal each which clouds judgement on overall performance.

As a team yesterday we were poor, thankfully we were playing Bolton and not a top 6 team, yes Paddy was poor but so were several others. Thankfully a few players, notably Stewey, Shotton and Howson played well.

Randolph and his fancy footwork did my head in more than Bamford yesterday
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bear66 Posted on 27/12/2017 12:41

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I'm hoping Pulis will have taken note and sort out some of Randolph'spoor play.
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Adi_Dem Posted on 27/12/2017 12:43

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I know exactly what I meant Paul. Itís a Happy Days reference and a well known phrase. Look it up.

He wasnít in any way a hindrance. Despite having a poor game he still made a very good contribution to our attacking play, having three of our best chances.
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paulwilko10 Posted on 27/12/2017 12:53

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Never heard of it Adi, I have now [;)]
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mwelolo Posted on 27/12/2017 12:54

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Bamford was very poor yesterday, too often too close to Assombolonga and at times he didnít seem to know where he should be playing.

He looks very short on confidence and this was very much in evidence when he was near the oposition goal.
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Derek_Duvall Posted on 27/12/2017 13:46

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So, to sum up, he's our best player but he had a terrible game yesterday?! Is that about the gist of it.
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Muttley Posted on 27/12/2017 14:10

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Not really. The argument (as used by his "fan club") was he is better than Fletcher who got a ridiculous number of opportunities in the first team and was utterly woeful.

I don't think anyone is suggesting he is "the best player at the club".

Why does everything have to be explained in the simplest of terms on here?
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bear66 Posted on 27/12/2017 14:28

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"So, to sum up, he's our best player but he had a terrible game yesterday?! "

No, that was Assombalonga.
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Easy_ Posted on 27/12/2017 14:50

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I thought he was really unlucky when Assombalonga played him through in the first half. Great run and unfortunate not to beat the keeper.
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mwelolo Posted on 27/12/2017 15:39

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The bad first touch was why he missed that chance.
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UAUA Posted on 27/12/2017 15:42

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Stupid that he even had a touch in the first place. Rank bad play.
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Easy_ Posted on 27/12/2017 15:51
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Nothing wrong with the touch. I've watched it a dozen times. He got it out if his feet and on to his favoured foot. Got his shot away but the keeper made the save. Bet some of you have never so much as attempted to play competitive football. Absolutely clueless.
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bear66 Posted on 27/12/2017 15:52

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He must have been picking up tips from Assombalonga and Braithwaite who are very consistent with rank bad first touches.
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Muttley Posted on 27/12/2017 15:53

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Thankfully, the highlights are now on the Boro website and you can judge that chance (and the rest of Bamford's involvement). I've only watched the 10 minutes highlights and I think the you will see that Bamford was involved quite a bit in our attacking play and that he did pretty well in his "one-on-one" bringing a smart save from their keeper. Obviously as this is only ten minutes from ninety it omits the bits of poor play and mis-controls. Still I would agree with the Gazette who gave him 6/10 which seems fair to me.
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Glasshalfempty Posted on 27/12/2017 16:08

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I think the moderate posters who donít constantly seek Ďname checkingí and affirmation as doyenneís of the Board just wanted a balanced debate on all players. Those that told us Bamford was the best player in our squad slaughtered other good young players simply to further their point. The bile against Fletcher in particular but also Johnson, Howson, Traore etc was disgraceful as it was done without balance and these players were given no chance with the Board bigwigs becaus in their opinion they took Bamford place. Read again the August / early September posts from the Doyenneís. Now Bamford has performed equally as poorly the same folk give him all the benefit of the doubt they would never afford to Fletcher. It is the unprincipled nature of the Bamford cheerleaders in slaughtering other players for their cause that upsets the normal guys.
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bear66 Posted on 27/12/2017 16:30

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"The bile against Fletcher"

Don't think anyone had anything bad to say about Fletcher. It's not his fault the club wasted £6m on a player with nothing going for him.

And Bamford has yet to play as poorly as Fletcher did in every game.
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brain_in_a_jar Posted on 27/12/2017 16:42

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The only real difference between bamford, assombalonga and braithwaite yesterday was bamford didn't get a goal. If christie squares the ball to bamford though rather than taking a shot on, he's got one in the bag too. They all made poor decisions, and had poor touches. I'd argue bamford put himself around more though and put in a decent shift. I'm still not convinced he's a 'no. 10' but he's done enough over the past 4 games for me to think he deserves a decent run in the team. From about 30 mins onwards bolton were doubling up on him too, so that tells you something.



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Adi_Dem Posted on 27/12/2017 17:10

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"The bile against Fletcher in particular but also Johnson, Howson, Traore etc was disgraceful"

Come on, this didn't happen in reality. Like Muttley says there is no nuance to the way people think and interact on here. No subtlety of thinking. Just a projected polarisation of views irrespective of what is actually being written.
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UAUA Posted on 27/12/2017 17:12

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"He must have been picking up tips from Assombalonga and Braithwaite who are very consistent with rank bad first touches."

Good job Braithwaite didn't take a first touch then.
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bear66 Posted on 27/12/2017 17:42

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Yes, good job. Wheater's first touch was spot on though.
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RedSteptoe Posted on 27/12/2017 20:04
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one has 12 one has 5 .....& the other bloke has 1 goal but they have the poor touches, As for the other thing Re Fletchers ridiculous no of starts .....he's played about 435 mins , half of Bamfords, same league goals & 2 assists, there again all The fringed one needs is a run of games
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vuvuzelas Posted on 27/12/2017 20:29

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Bamford was poor yesterday but what do you expect from a player whose barely had a run of games in 3 years?

Theres enough to suggest theres a top championship player in him to give him a run of games to find out. If after a run of 8 games hes still poor then fine look at the otger options in the squad but given that weve bought him and are paying him a wage its worth a little game time to see.
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Glasshalfempty Posted on 27/12/2017 23:21

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I don't think he will get the 'run of games' some folk hope for. He isn't a Pulis type - he don't suffer fancy dans or pretty players. I expect Gestede will start alongside Assomolonga and Braithwaite will go out right. Wouldn't be amazed to see Crouch come in and if he does Bamford could be sacrificed IMHO
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Adi_Dem Posted on 27/12/2017 23:24

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More evidence of linear, stat based thinking. Just watch him play. If you do want stats though, we win more points when he plays versus when he doesnít. Pretty important one that one.
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OPEO Posted on 28/12/2017 07:34

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Too many idiots on here.
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UAUA Posted on 28/12/2017 07:39

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Don't post then.
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Indeedido Posted on 28/12/2017 10:55

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It was Easy who posted the comparison of results when Bamford has started, versus when he hasn't.
I will add a bit to that.

PB League starts P8 W5 D1 L2 GF 12 GA 6 Pts 16
PB Not start P16 W6 D4 L6 GF 20 GA 17 Pts 22

So,2nd in table form when he starts
13th in table form when he doesnt?
7th in table overall, but 9 points off 2nd.

I'm not fabricating anything, nor am I saying that Bamford is the be all and end all of things.

It is however indisputable that we have had MUCH better results when he has started league matches; we have promotion results at 2 points per match.
When he starts at Home we win. 4 wins out of 4.
When he doesn't at Home, we labour. 3 wins out of 8.

Message seems simple:
Bamford should start every match, but especially at home.
The team win more, score more, concede less.
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UAUA Posted on 28/12/2017 11:00

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Does that not depend on which teams he has started against? Flat track bully and all that? Not saying that is actually the case, but it could be a factor.
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Easy_ Posted on 28/12/2017 11:01

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Indeedido 👍
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hopesoboro Posted on 28/12/2017 11:03
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UAUA,genuinely made me chuckle that[:D]
In response to "Don't post then."
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Easy_ Posted on 28/12/2017 11:05

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Wins when Bamford starts have came against Sheff Utd, Burton, Ipswich, Sheff Wed, Bolton. I don't think that's an idicator either way.

We also looked much better against Wolves away when he came on.
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RedSteptoe Posted on 28/12/2017 11:08

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Seems the other 10 should hang their heads in shame then, he's obviously carrying them all[;)]
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Easy_ Posted on 28/12/2017 11:10

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Yet more hyperbolic nonsense from steptoe.
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Chappy112 Posted on 28/12/2017 11:15

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ďCome on, this didn't happen in reality.Ē

Yeah it did and you were one of the worst for it. A no hoper is what I remember you labelling Fletcher after less than 4 games worth of minutes.
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Indeedido Posted on 28/12/2017 11:20

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I dont know UAUA, but I do know he didn't start at home against Derby, Cardiff or Norwich and that didn't end too well did it.
It would be a big mistake not to start him at home to Wolves, Bristol City, Villa, Leeds and Fulham; the best of the remaining visitors here.

Home draws too against Brentford, Barnsley and Preston were poor results.

The only home wins he did not start were Sunderland and QPR - hardly the toughest of fixtures, but we laboured in both matches.
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RedSteptoe Posted on 28/12/2017 11:24

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None of them labelled Fletcher, or Howson etc , they will all tell you that [;)]
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Easy_ Posted on 28/12/2017 11:26

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I'll happily admit I think Fletcher is bang average. The lad couldn't lace Bamford's boots.
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Muttley Posted on 28/12/2017 11:33

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Well I have certainly argued against the inclusion of Howson and Fletcher in the team over the period of Monk's later tenure. Fletcher has been utter poop. Seven million quids wrth of poop in a red shirt (with a white band). Howson has only recently started playing in a manner that has justified his inclusion and I remain unconvinced that the money we spent on him gives us a playing asset superior to either Clayton or Forshaw.

But that is not the point of this thread. The purpose, such as it was, was childish point scoring against those who have advocated PB getting a run of games.

It seems that the Patrick Bamford Fans have proved themselves right even though PB didn't have the greatest game of his life on Boxing Day.

Of course it may be that Steptoe's lad sees promise in Fletcher and is advocating his return to the starting 11? Is that what you are trying to say RS?
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RedSteptoe Posted on 28/12/2017 11:47

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The manager picks the side mate........god help Pulis if he don't select the Golden child on here, seems selective how one player deserves a run of games , yet others, do not & are expected to deliver instantly, which rarely happens
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Easy_ Posted on 28/12/2017 11:48

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Here's another interesting stat... Our record against the current top 6 stands at 1 win and 5 defeats.

Bamford started in 1 of those games. We won it.
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Muttley Posted on 28/12/2017 11:53

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Steppy lad you seem to be confused. We don't pick the side on here. But we do discuss it and argue about it. We're "fans", it's what we do. (Sadly)

Like most posters who seem to value "winning the internets" above discussion you seem unwilling to say who you would play in the side.

I find that odd.

Try joining in.
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expat_smoggie Posted on 28/12/2017 11:59

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It will be a clean slate for everyone with Pullis so letís see who gets in the starting 11Ė itíll be an interesting read.
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Glasshalfempty Posted on 28/12/2017 12:51

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If this is a Board of debate and opinion, is it right to describe as Ďidiotsí those are of us who take a different view to you on Patrick Bamford ? In the multiple Bamford threads people who disagree with the seasoned posters were regularly described as idiots simply for holding such views ( happy to put up the last 10 times you did this if you have forgotto ) - not the most convincing way to persuade us of your argument
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RedSteptoe Posted on 28/12/2017 12:56

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Oh they won't have that[;)], tin hat on [:D]
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Easy_ Posted on 28/12/2017 13:02

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I'll call your bluff. Show us the last 10 times.
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Foggysfplandiet3 Posted on 28/12/2017 13:02

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"god help Pulis if he don't select the Golden child on here"

Obsessed.
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Muttley Posted on 28/12/2017 13:07

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"...is it right to describe as Ďidiotsí those are of us who take a different view..."

Yup.

I tend to approach this place like a conversation down the pub where if someone is (in your opinion) talking rubbish I will tell them I think they are an "idiot". Sometimes, brace yourself, I might... use a bad word!

Like "Gosh" or "flipping"

Perhaps there is some sort of counseling program you might be able to get on for your shredded feelings?

But yeah let's see those last ten times.
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RedSteptoe Posted on 28/12/2017 13:09

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& they're off [;)]


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Muttley Posted on 28/12/2017 13:10

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Still waiting for you to join in Steppy...
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Exiled_in_Herford Posted on 28/12/2017 13:20

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It's class this place. People don't want you to use stats (goals scored) to judge Bamford with but are happy to put team stats up (with him in it). Maybe if we had somebody who contributed more than Bamford in the goals column then the team stats maybe higher, just saying. Anyway off for an afternoon drinking session, cyas later. [;)]
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Muttley Posted on 28/12/2017 13:22

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Show me the ten.
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RedSteptoe Posted on 28/12/2017 13:30

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10[:D]
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Indeedido Posted on 28/12/2017 13:46

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If we win, I'm happy.
We've won a far higher % when PB starts and all of them when he starts at home.
He has 1 goal from 8 starts, which is something I believe he will improve on if he stays in the team.
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Easy_ Posted on 28/12/2017 14:00

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Fight stats with stats, Exiled. It's plainly obvious our results are better when starts. He's also started 2 hip games getting 2 goals. So 10 starts 3 goals in all comps. Not great but as has been said, he needs consistent selection to thrive. I wouldn't be surprised if he gets at least 10 more between now and the end of the season, if he's picked regularly.

I could just base my entire argument on his ability. I have no problem doing that at all. There isn't a forward at the club that can do the things Bamford can do. No one can touch him technically.
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Adi_Dem Posted on 28/12/2017 16:38

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@chappy - not true. I defended Fletcher early on. I concluded after a reasonable period of time that heís useless. I think thatís fair enough.

@Exiled youíre being selective. Posters used stats in isolation to support an argument. Others responded using alternative stats to support theirs. Thatís it.
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Easy_ Posted on 28/12/2017 19:16

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Around this time 3 years ago...

Link: Interesting comments
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Teesside88 Posted on 29/12/2017 06:42

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Still did more than assombalonga has done more than half of his starts this season. Explain that? Can hold the ball up. Can link up. Can get in behind. Can CONTROL the ball. Clever wins pens etc. Site striker terrible rather have fatty and Braithwaite defos. If we blasted them after every bad performance the thread would be overloaded. Idiot
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Exiled_in_Herford Posted on 29/12/2017 06:51

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You're a bit fast and loose with the term idiot whilst not being able to string a coherent sentence together.
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Teesside88 Posted on 29/12/2017 07:24

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Yeh pull punctuation rather than challenge views from a football perspective. Typical from you. No wonder your exiled and so you shall stay
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Exiled_in_Herford Posted on 29/12/2017 07:28

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That's the point, I have no idea what you're going on about as you're not making any sense.

Oh and I live in Middlesbrough you illiterate fcukwit.
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Teesside88 Posted on 29/12/2017 07:29

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No doubt you believe monk is better than pulis n all. Your an absolute clown you literally have no clue what your talking about. Every post pure horsecrap. Give over aren't you sick of being completely wrong????
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Exiled_in_Herford Posted on 29/12/2017 07:31

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[:D][:D][:D][:D] Did you go to school?.
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Teesside88 Posted on 29/12/2017 07:36

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No I didn't. Still I put you in your place as far as this is as low as you have to scrape the barrel when you know on footballing matters you will be taken back to your "greatly superior education" your an absolute clueless c@nt which is why you make these pointless replies.
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Exiled_in_Herford Posted on 29/12/2017 07:39

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You put me in my place?. If you can point to where you've done that. [:D][:D][:D]
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Teesside88 Posted on 29/12/2017 07:45

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Yeh easy the last 2 post where I've made my point and you have basically shown you have nothing to offer in a debate that is anything to do with Middlesbrough FC. Every time you post it's pure dog crap I'm all for different opinions but when your clearly clueless I fail to have any respect for your thoughts
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Exiled_in_Herford Posted on 29/12/2017 07:48

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I have plenty of debates with people, I just can't understand yours. If you'd like to take a deep breath and write it again, I'm sure you'll be able to get out what you meant to say. We can then have a debate. I won't hold my breath mind.

Oh and if you can't do that then I wouldn't mind a favour from you. You see I'm building an idiot and I wouldn't mind a borrow of your brain. [;)]
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Teesside88 Posted on 29/12/2017 07:57

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So my original point is that Bamford is better than assonbalonga due to the fact that he offers so much more to our overall play as far as the points I made above whereas assonbalonga in most games this season has been a man down. No surprise since Bamford has come back we win games. To have the ability to hold the ball and use it in the opponents half is just as important if not more to your overall game than scoring unimportant goals against bottom feeders
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Exiled_in_Herford Posted on 29/12/2017 08:05
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Ok, I now see what you're getting at. I'm not overly impressed with any of the three b's, the difference however is the goals scored. Take them away and we'd be a lot lower down in the league, so to basically dismiss them is to coin a phrase nonsense. Bamford is a better technical player than BA I don't think anybody will disagree with that but being a forward is about creating chances and scoring goals at the end of the day and there's only one of the two of them doing it regularly at the moment. I think you'll get a good indication on who Pulis thinks is better for the team in the coming weeks and I highly doubt that'll be Bamford. Still what do I know as apparently I'm clueless on anything about football.
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Well im gonna say now if Bamford played the same minutes as fatty he would have scored a similar amount if not more and would definitely contribute more in games against leeds and the likes. Let's see who pulis picks I'm quite confidentassombalonga will be benched before long.
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Hopefully Pulis will pick Bamford and Britt, I honestly believe we need dedicated wide players to deliver good balls into the box, both bamford and Britt would benifit from this.

We have Downing and Traore who can play wide them four for me would be a good place to start.
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Teesside88 Posted on 29/12/2017 08:29

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Maybe at home but personally I need to see assombalonga do much much more over 90mins to earn his place. For 15mil I want 12 goals and a nuisance to opposition defences literally he's been a joke in most games as if he can't be XXXXXXd. You can't get away carrying a player in a league as close as this
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Murfster Posted on 29/12/2017 08:36

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Bernie Slaven would have been benched by you then mr88. He is there to score goals and he is doing it reasonably well. Certainly better at finishing than anyone else
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Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 29/12/2017 08:46
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He's got 12 goals, that's why he cost the money. Bamford wasn't free and he's scored once.
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Teesside88 Posted on 29/12/2017 08:51

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Well I've seen him miss sitters and let's have it right football has moved on since the 80s pal. When was the last time a team went up with a lazy scrounger from championship? The league is too close to be carrying a player nowadays. He simply doesn't do enough for me at all in any area. Goals Yeh 12 look where they have come and what they meant. Birmingham and qpr the only games they mattered. When Bamford played for us in the past he used to win us games. Correct me if I'm wrong but most games we have played with Bamford starting we have won.
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Teesside88 Posted on 29/12/2017 08:55

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That includes cup
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I miss billbones.
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paulwilko10 Posted on 30/12/2017 12:59

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Can anyone tell me if Pulis has joined this club?
Will be interesting to see.
Won't make Bamford a bad player because he doesn't pick him, but it will be yet another manager that potentially will freeze him out.

I know one game does not mean bamfords finished by the way of not picked.
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Easy_ Posted on 13/03/2018 08:48

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Yes, Pulis joined the club, Paul [8)]
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brain_in_a_jar Posted on 13/03/2018 09:51

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haha great hoof!
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bear66 Posted on 13/03/2018 09:56

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Even Pulis didn't understand what a good player he had until he ended up front by accident. Anyone who saw hoe Bamford transformed us as a team against Wolves would have known he looked even better than first time round. More robust and quicker.
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Dustbin_Man Posted on 13/03/2018 10:12

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My current concern is that it took Gestede to get injured before Bamford got a chance. Not sure if that makes Pulis a member of the Bamford Appreciation Society.
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Easy_ Posted on 13/03/2018 10:19

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Pulis is club president, dustbin, don't you worry about that.
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Dustbin_Man Posted on 13/03/2018 10:27

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Gestedes i jury gave Pulis the opportunity to gave him a chance, I suppose.

If Monk was still here, Traore and Bamford wouldn't have been playing for the club. Besic wouldn't have arrived either.

We need a good 3/4 results against our rivals and it'll be job almost done.
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Indeedido Posted on 13/03/2018 17:12

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Nice work again Easy [^][:D]

I'm not normally bothered about hoofed old threads, but it would have been a sin had you not done these Easy.

Bamford a class act in our play off season; a class act again now. He might just lead us up[^]
paul wilko and red steptoe might even admit they were wrong by then?
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Foggysfplandiet3 Posted on 13/03/2018 17:20

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Suck it up PaulWilko! [:D]
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OPEO Posted on 13/03/2018 17:51

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What a dork😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁
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Teesside88 Posted on 13/03/2018 19:06

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Wrong about monk. Wrong about pulis. Wrong about fat britt. Wrong about Bamford. I'm sure you probably wrote Traore off n all.

That's worse form than your idol monk! [?]
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fosm Posted on 13/03/2018 22:10

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Suck it up,Wilko suck it up lad.

Suck it up!!!

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SmogOnOuseburn Posted on 14/03/2018 13:23

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Wrong about fat britt?

You mean our top goal scorer? [:(]
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Not for much longer, smog.
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