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fridgeman Posted on 07/12/2017 07:23
This country is going mad
 
 
Leeds coucil plans for charging diesel vehicles .

Proposed daily charge for non-compliant vehicles
Buses/Coaches - £100
HGVs - £100
Taxi and private hire - £12.50
Charges subject to consultation
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TheFair86 Posted on 07/12/2017 07:35

This country is going mad

 
Seems alright to me [^]

ďThis would apply only to buses, coaches, HGVs/lorries and taxi and private hire cars and would not affect private motorists, Leeds Council says.

Only affected vehicles that do not meet minimum engine standards will be charged for entering the CAZ. For HGVs, buses and coaches the required standard will be Euro VI for diesel vehicles and Euro IV for petrol vehicles.ď

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norfolkred1 Posted on 07/12/2017 07:50

This country is going mad

 
And who will foot the bill, Joe Public through higher prices
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Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 07/12/2017 07:55

This country is going mad

 
£30 for 90 minutes at the Riverside.

Barmy.
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TheFair86 Posted on 07/12/2017 07:59

This country is going mad

 
£12.50 a day on a taxi? £100 a day on a bus? These are very small sums compared to the amount they take in. I have no qualms if my taxi or bus ticket goes up 10p when itís to drive improvements in emissions, and itís unlikwlt to be that much.
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Ticker_Tape Posted on 07/12/2017 08:05

This country is going mad

 
What do they do with the cash they get then ?
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CardiffDaffs Posted on 07/12/2017 08:09

This country is going mad

 
The country went mad last year. That example is one of the more sensible things to happen.
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ipad1977 Posted on 07/12/2017 08:20

This country is going mad

 
As a resident of Leeds, were this to be fully implemented I can see a few things happening within the year;

Genuine taxi numbers right across Leeds to be down - the drivers are already kicking off about it... More dodgy unmarked, unregistered 'taxis' to hit the road as a result, akin to the fact that almost half the smokers in the UK now buy knocked off or imported fags at some point since the price of them shot into the stratosphere.

The trains becoming absolutely rammed. Some lines are already often heaving at rush hour; expect them to become like the London underground as a result. As it's the only real method of public transport NOT affected by this.

Bus prices rising sharply alomg with taxi fares obviously; going out on the pop for example will become substancially more expensive if you are any distance out of town.

Car users to rise substancially. Some roads are already a pain in the backside; expect a possible logjam of vehicles on any major route in/out of town around peak times.

More carsharing; perhaps the only perceived positive, along with "air quality".

Car parks to often become battlefields in the race for spaces.
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ExFootyLegs Posted on 07/12/2017 08:27

This country is going mad

 
CoC is right though isn't he ?

if we want to talk numbers then lets talk about how come it is £30 to watch a game of football ?
I mean £30. Some others pay significantly more and yet people accept it and yet focus on this story in Leeds about diesel fumes which is obviously helping the environment ?

Look at the pay of that vice-C at Bath Uni : appalling

But it is equally appalling that we put up with Rooney earning £200k a week. I mean £200k ; it is morally unacceptable in our society and we should all be boycotting stadiums and making a stand because this type of injustice is what should motivate us all as human beings.
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CardiffDaffs Posted on 07/12/2017 08:31

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I can see quite a few positives. For one the more people who can and will take the train the better and stop polluting the air with cars leading to a healthier environment. There is no excuse for non compliant cars - the same kind of policy is being applied by the Mayor in London and itís been warmly received by many.

Also if it gets more people off their backsides in car journeys and at least do some walking then again better for the battle against the unhealthy and the obese
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ExFootyLegs Posted on 07/12/2017 09:25

This country is going mad

 
Cardiff - forcing people to walk or take a bus ....you will have the right wing segment out next stating : NANNY STATE !
We want the freedom to do as we like....

Look what happens across the pond if you keep giving people their freedoms without restrictions...
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CardiffDaffs Posted on 07/12/2017 09:32

This country is going mad

 
[:D]

Not advocating anything forcing anybody to do anything except stop polluting the atmosphere and filling our hospital beds with preventable health related conditions.
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Ironops Posted on 07/12/2017 09:49

This country is going mad

 
Those measures look designed to force transport companies to modernise their fleet with less polluting vehicles.

Seriously, whats not to like?
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fridgeman Posted on 07/12/2017 10:04

This country is going mad

 
Or for the said transport companies to add a delivery tariff to businesses working from Leeds to cover the cost...imagine if it was your local shop and you were effectively paying more in one city or town than another because of this.

I am sure the people who thought of this will be well looked after so could afford the extra cost but with so many people living on or below the poverty line who will hear their voices?
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coluka Posted on 07/12/2017 10:05

This country is going mad

 
Taxation and profiteering both will transpire.

Will the taxation monies be used for the good of the people, I seriously doubt it. It is a way of funding local authorities following government cuts. Will habits change, not a lot.

It is the thin end of the wedge. Once embedded, they will introduce it on private owners too. It will become the norm. Who will be worst off for this, the lower paid in society thats who.

If monies were used to help emmission technology improvements or went into the NHS or to help reduce costs of switching fair enough. These scrappage schemes only help the better off. Joe Bloggs on a council estate cant necessarily afford a new car or perhaps the depreciation that comes with it.

This will be the norm everywhere in 5 yrs time.
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Ironops Posted on 07/12/2017 10:09

This country is going mad

 
So the answer is to carry on polluting?

I dont think so.

People are dying every year while others drive round in dirty old diesels with smoke billowing out the back, something needs to be done, and I personally am very pleased it is being done
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Blind_Boy_Grunt Posted on 07/12/2017 10:14

This country is going mad

 
If coach and haulage companies keep their fleets up to standard there is nothing to worry about and the benefits are for all of us.
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fridgeman Posted on 07/12/2017 10:16

This country is going mad

 
The older vehicles will naturally be phased out and new green vehicles will replace them, If its pollution then how about aeroplanes and trains...they pollute and to rub salt in the ordinary public on moderate incomes could not afford to use trains regularly and that was before the latest price increase...this is all about making money.
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redlips Posted on 07/12/2017 10:22

This country is going mad

 
Leeds City Council is ahead of the curve, the council built the Leeds areana and once it has been paid off it is generating revenue.

As above the cost is not that bad.
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Kilburn Posted on 07/12/2017 10:54

This country is going mad

 
If you don't do anything about this stuff, you end up with the situation in Delhi at the moment.

We have already been there once in the UK where the smog in London and other major cities, due largely to coal burning, killed thousands. The clean air act was eventually passed in 1956 but there was a lot of opposition from business in particular who claimed they couldn't afford to switch to smokeless fuels.

Link: Smog disruptsTest Match
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PRIORYMAN Posted on 07/12/2017 20:43

This country is going mad

 
OP ... This country is going mad

... nearly correct ... thus country has already gone mad. Blame the PC Brigade.
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jam69 Posted on 07/12/2017 21:01

This country is going mad

 
The PC brigade [:D] too much daily mail for you I think
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1finny Posted on 07/12/2017 21:12

This country is going mad

 
We have to (well depends what you believe) take some action to slow/halt global warming.
Whatever we do will add problems somewhere down th line.
The path of least resistance is do nothing -that hasnít worked so far.
All a bit tricky really
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KingOfTheTribes Posted on 08/12/2017 09:16

This country is going mad

 
What is mad is The Government doing nothing about vehicles killing the public with their exhaust gasses. Fair play Leeds Council.

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6foot2 Posted on 08/12/2017 14:43

This country is going mad

 
Councils are trying to wring every penny out of their local populace by any means possible. It's happening everywhere in the country. They have no money. Can't think why....
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Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 08/12/2017 15:39

This country is going mad

 
Leeds Council are light years ahead of the tabloid ingesting cavemen on here.
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Abel_Tasman Posted on 08/12/2017 16:14
Edited On: 08/12/2017 16:15
This country is going mad

 
Footballers getting paid £400k per week
An openly racist orange tv panel show host as Leader of the free world
Russia determining the ballots of overseas countries
Ethnic Cleansing in Mayanmar

And the OP chooses to give the example of a council trying to clean the air in its city as a sign the country is going mad? Yep somebody somewhere is going mad.
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