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TheBoy007 Posted on 13/09/2017 22:40
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I'm wondering if this will be a factor as the season progresses? Wolves in particular have a lot of southern European players who could feel the cold. They also have a lot of one nationality and we all know how splits can develop. Leeds have more northern European players but I still think the winter grind and pile up of fixtures may effect them more than our largely British isles based team.
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autism_awareness Posted on 14/09/2017 00:28

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In reality it doesn't matter where you are from, you don't feel the cold when you are running about.

If you are sat in the stands in baltic temperatures doing nothing then that's a different story [xx(]
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itsnicetobenice Posted on 14/09/2017 07:42
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Falling temperatures have an impact on muscle performance. Acclimatisation is the best way to negate its impact but that takes an extended period of time.

You should also not underestimate the frequency of high intensity exertion and its huge impact on muscle performance. Again, this is something a body needs to 'learn'.

Players who have been playing in warmer countries and not experienced extended periods of cold weather will become both mentally and physically fatigued quicker than players that are familiar with these conditions. They will also invariably suffer more muscle injuries. The amount of games to be played in quick succession has the same effect.

They really are important factors that will become evident at certain points during the season.

With this in mind, we have an advantage over sides like Wolves and Leeds.
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foomanboro Posted on 14/09/2017 07:50

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Yeah I see Chelsea and Man City having the same problem every year [rle]
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itsnicetobenice Posted on 14/09/2017 07:54
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Yes. Both Chelsea and Man City have really tiny squads that get stretched to the limit. Its amazing how they cope really. Truly miraculous.
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Abel_Tasman Posted on 14/09/2017 08:09

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When Burnley won the title three seasons ago I believe they had one of the smallest squad in the Division. They also had a team with very few overseas players - if any.

Whilst it may not be a factor let's hope it does have an effect as Leeds and Wolves along with Fulham I make as the favourites to go up.
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itsnicetobenice Posted on 14/09/2017 08:24
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It will almost certainly be a factor. It is the reason why so many respected pro's and managers talk so much about having players in the squad that know the league.

You can carry one or two and rest them if you have good replacements to come in. If not, then you need to keep playing them which can lead to injuries, loss of form, fatigue, player unhappiness etc etc. foreign players from warm climates that are not used to this league generally come unstuck around winter time and towards the end of the season.
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zorro_mfc Posted on 14/09/2017 08:29

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I've always thought this weather argument to be a bit of myth to be honest, and they always say it for the lesser clubs as you never hear people but how will Aguero cope in the rain and snow.

It can be cold in spain and Italy as well.

Take Juno and rav I never saw either play badly due to adverse weather or cold.

The split in the camp argument could be a factor though.
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itsnicetobenice Posted on 14/09/2017 08:38

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Juninho had only played in Brazil on a regular basis before coming here and took quite some time, almost a full season before we saw the best from him on a consistent basis.

Italians play in colder weather more frequently so not really an issue. I am referring to players who have only played in countries like Spain and Portugal and even further afield.

You cannot argue that our weather during the wet winter months is not a lot different to warmer countries further south.

You also need to consider how many games we play in quick succession.

When you put both of these factors together, ie playing three games a week over an extended period of time in cold, wet conditions on soft pitches, the problems with muscle fatigue is multiplied.

It has an effect. Of that there is no doubt.
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hopesoboro Posted on 14/09/2017 08:58

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Where has this itsnicetobenice popped up from?He's some sort of polymath with expert knowledge on a variety of topics. It's a shame he's been hiding his light under a bushel for so long!
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BobUpndown Posted on 14/09/2017 09:16

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it's not the conditions in the game that is a potential issue..

it's the day to day effect on them & their families.. change in environment & often isolation by language.. & that can be felt more in the darker winter months..

the Championship is more competitive, constant & relentless than the PL..

so I'll be interested to see how Leeds perform Nov to Feb..
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itsnicetobenice Posted on 14/09/2017 09:19

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I think you underestimate the impact that soft pitches and cold temperatures have on muscle performance and in particular fatigue levels.

It is an important factor in relation to performance at a high level.
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itsnicetobenice Posted on 14/09/2017 09:23

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On a variety of topics hopesoboro? I have played and coached at a decent level that's all.

Not that that make my opinions any more valid or important than people who have not. I'm just giving an opinion based on my knowledge and experience of the game. Certainly not an expert on anything in the grand scheme of things!
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Boro_Diligamus Posted on 14/09/2017 09:47

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Cant see this being an issue for any of the leeds first team regulars, apart from their new spanish forward Saiz, who wont have experienced a winter like ours. Wolves on the other hand have have 4 or 5 regular starters who have come straight from hotter climates and we will need to adapt.
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itsnicetobenice Posted on 14/09/2017 09:53

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In terms of the climate, there is Saiz and a couple of others who have been brought in that maybe have not experienced it before to such an extent. The more telling factor will be the frequency of the matches over an extended period of time without a break and the soft pitches during the wetter months.

Really drains the legs in top level sport when not used to it.
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Indeedido Posted on 14/09/2017 10:23

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itsnicetobenice has started out as a decent poster.
hopesoboro has been going a lot longer and added considerably less.
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TheBoy007 Posted on 14/09/2017 17:04

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Some of the foreigner who've played for Boro in the past have been taken aback by the amount of fixtures over Christmas/new year. The lack of family time. The lack of winter break. It could be to our benefit.
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Heine Posted on 15/09/2017 08:40

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Didn't seem to do Brighton any harm
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