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parmoboro Posted on 12/07/2017 14:00
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Seems the funding is now officially in place [^] 3,000 capacity and looking fantastic in the promo video [8D]

Link: Globe
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go_nads Posted on 12/07/2017 14:11

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Is the venue going to be marketed more towards theatre and the like rather than gigs?
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Jan_Aage_Fjortoft Posted on 12/07/2017 14:14

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Supposed to be more comedy / music based. The people who are going to be running it said they have venues in Newcastle and Sunderland for the theatre side of things.
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parmoboro Posted on 12/07/2017 14:14

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It's going to be very much for gigs. The stalls area seating is going to be removable so plenty of room for headbanging/moshpits etc [;)]
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LeitrimBoro Posted on 12/07/2017 14:22

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I thought for one moment that Theatrical events might raise the cultural bar in Teesside. Alas.
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Lemmy_Kilmister Posted on 12/07/2017 14:26
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Its well known that The Beatles, Stones etc played the Globe, but for me what's even more staggering is that Buddy Holly played the Globe on March 5th 1958 on his only ever UK tour.
The Motown Revue was there April 2nd 1965, featuring The Supremes, Martha & the Vandellas, Smokey & the Miracles. plus Little Stevie Wonder and the Earl Van Dyke Band as house band for the night. The place was half empty - unbelievable when you think about it today.

What an amazing legacy that place has.
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Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 12/07/2017 15:21

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Saw my first gig there, Family supported by America.

Lovely memory.

Some theatre would be good, opera and ballet?
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FartingGnome Posted on 12/07/2017 15:26

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Saw Lonnie Donegan in Panto there when I was about 5. Last time I was there was for the Red Army Choir in 1970.
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Ticker_Tape Posted on 12/07/2017 15:27

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Seen Wizard,Mud, Status Quo there.
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TeesTees Posted on 12/07/2017 15:42

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Size of this rivals o2 venues?
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TeesTees Posted on 12/07/2017 15:42

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Size of this rivals o2 venues?
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glover_elbow Posted on 12/07/2017 15:49

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I think at atg theatre group who are backing it don't want to step on Sunderland empires toes which they also have a relationship with. Looks very impressive all the same
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aa365 Posted on 12/07/2017 16:06

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CtC
Can you remember Roger Chapman chucking his beer at the nutter in the audience constantly shouting for Weavers Answer??😂
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Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 12/07/2017 16:49

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I can't, I wasn't that close to the front [:D]
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Cogeur_le_Conq Posted on 12/07/2017 16:53

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I saw Status Quo, Burt Weedon and Freddy and the Dreamers there.
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FartingGnome Posted on 12/07/2017 18:08

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CtC - Mrs Gnome was at that concert, she organised the outing and the minibus from her village [;)]

She doesn't remember Roger Chapman chucking beer.
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Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 12/07/2017 18:09

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I was on a bus from Hartlepool which picked us up in Billingham, probably started at the Nursery Inn.
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rkangel Posted on 12/07/2017 18:46

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ATG owns Sunderland Empire. Not sure of its involvement with The Globe. I'll keep an ear out.
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deafschool Posted on 12/07/2017 18:52

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I saw Dave Dee, Dozy, Mick and Titch in pantomime there. Dave Dee hit himself in the face with his whip during Xanadu.
My sister was there for the Beatles gigs and the Stones gig when someone threw a coin at Mick Jagged and split his eye open.
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myfooty Posted on 12/07/2017 19:05

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"The deal will see a profit-sharing arrangement with Ambassador Theatre Group, which will run the Globe.

The company owns and operates 50 venues worldwide, including several in London's West End and on Broadway in New York."

All this is looking very positive. The capacity should position it about right for what the area currently needs.


Link: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tees-40572171
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myfooty Posted on 12/07/2017 19:41
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It looks like the Globe could end up being Ambassador Theatre Group's largest capacity venue. It will be interesting to know what the marketing plans are for the Globe.

Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ambassador_Theatre_G
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Jilted_John Posted on 12/07/2017 19:51

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i saw Alvin Stardust, Bert Weedon, Eddie Yeats there
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rkangel Posted on 12/07/2017 20:33

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Thanks for that info. Interesting reading.
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jam69 Posted on 12/07/2017 20:46

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three decent music venues in Stockton, nothing much in middlesbrough. good luck to the place
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myfooty Posted on 12/07/2017 20:47

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Any thoughts on where Ambassador Theatre Group may try to market the venue.
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swordtrombonefish Posted on 12/07/2017 20:50

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Looks pretty good, let's hope it gets public support in numbers when it goes live.
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Bobby_Braithwaite Posted on 12/07/2017 20:52

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myfooty

If the Ambassador Theatre Group are convinced they can make money how much are they paying towards the works?
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asredastheycome Posted on 12/07/2017 21:10

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I don't remember Roger Chapman chucking beer but it was a great show. Used to love America in those days.
Saw ELP there around the same time. Not a big favourite of mine but great live. [^]
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myfooty Posted on 12/07/2017 21:38

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I don't know the ins and outs of the deal. It just says The Ambassador Theatre Group will be the Operator.

"A world class operator

Internationally renowned live entertainment operator – The Ambassador Theatre Group (ATG) – has signed the Globe.

ATG is a global leader in live theatre and music with nearly 50 venues in Britain, the USA and Australia.

Among its portfolio are the USA’s biggest Broadway Theatre, The Lyric – home to the world renowned Cirque du Soleil, Sydney’s Theatre Royal as well as historic West End theatres like The Apollo Victoria and The Savoy."
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Bobby_Braithwaite Posted on 12/07/2017 21:49

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That worries me, the council tax payers seem to be taking all the risk and the management company none just a share of the profits.

It'd interesting to know if they get a management fee as well.
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Indeedido Posted on 12/07/2017 21:56

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This looks great and I hope it is a massive success.
The area can easily support this venue.[^]
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myfooty Posted on 12/07/2017 21:56

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Most of local Venues have been getting money spent on improvements.

It would be good to see the Riverside Stadium or The Darlington area used for other events. Maybe the local councils and owners Stadiums should look into the possibility of adding an retractable roofing system to one of them.

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myfooty Posted on 12/07/2017 21:59

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"That worries me, the council tax payers seem to be taking all the risk and the management company none just a share of the profits.

It'd interesting to know if they get a management fee as well."

It will be the operator that will be covering the running costs not the council.
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FartingGnome Posted on 12/07/2017 22:47
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I think the problem with Darlington is the access and parking Access in that all the routes are single carriageway and comprise routes into and around Darlington. the place would seize up with a big crowd.
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Heine Posted on 12/07/2017 22:51

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10m invested by SBC then 13m to attract a hotel austerity what austerity?
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fptrader Posted on 12/07/2017 23:00
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"I saw Dave Dee, Dozy, Mick and Titch in pantomime there. Dave Dee hit himself in the face with his whip during Xanadu. "

Where was Beaky ? - Skiving ?
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myfooty Posted on 13/07/2017 00:15

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"10m invested by SBC then 13m to attract a hotel austerity what austerity? "

The hotel is expected to cost £17 million.
The Global is expected to cost £15 million.
The council is receiving large grants and using business loans to help fund the projects, this money can only be used for these projects.

Both business have a good business case and will bring visitors and outside money to the area.
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Heine Posted on 13/07/2017 00:22

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Do you work for SBC?
😂
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38Red Posted on 13/07/2017 06:57

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Saw the Shadows in panto there. They recorded Stars fell on Stockton as a B side to Wonderful Land

Link: Stars fell on Stockton
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Rayman Posted on 13/07/2017 07:09

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I saw the 'oo and James Gang (incl. Joe Walsh) and Jethro Tull.
Also BGs and DDDM&T but we don't celebrate that fact!
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sirteuk Posted on 13/07/2017 07:23

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Billy Fury,Tommy Steel, Eden Kane,Roy Orbison,The Shadows and the Beatles to name a few I have seen there
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myfooty Posted on 13/07/2017 11:41

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"Do you work for SBC?"

No but you can find information about most projects on the internet.

Here is the information about the Hotel.

Link: https://www.stockton.gov.uk/economic-regeneration-
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Bobby_Braithwaite Posted on 13/07/2017 17:46

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Seems odd that their investigations only found positives.

"Research shows that there is currently an undersupplied hotel market in the Tees Valley with mid-week occupancy across the Tees Valley currently peaking at 95%. The recent expansions of a number of hotels in the Borough and neighbouring areas, plus confirmed future developments, evidence a growing demand for a new hotel for corporate and recreational visits."

If this is true why is taking so long for the one in Middlehaven to be built. Also why are the big chains not clamouring to fund and build hotels?

There's obviously a big need hence the Swallow not being taken over.
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HezBurra Posted on 13/07/2017 18:19

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E mail Neil Schneider and ask him to explain it you.

I understand it, but you wont take my word for it as your mind is made up already it seems.

As for the funding, as already stated a lot of money is grants and loans against future profits. Its not like £17 million has just been taken out of the bank.

In terms of austerity the council has very much been put in a position where it must generate its own income and also stimulate the local economy to increase revenue from business rates etc.
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myfooty Posted on 13/07/2017 18:31

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(Seems odd that their investigations only found positives.

"Research shows that there is currently an undersupplied hotel market in the Tees Valley with mid-week occupancy across the Tees Valley currently peaking at 95%. The recent expansions of a number of hotels in the Borough and neighbouring areas, plus confirmed future developments, evidence a growing demand for a new hotel for corporate and recreational visits.")Most the hotels in area have been expanded and new hotels are getting built now.


"If this is true why is taking so long for the one in Middlehaven to be built. Also why are the big chains not clamouring to fund and build hotels?" This how lots of hotels are now funded. Many hotel brands are using what is effectively a Franchise business model

"There's obviously a big need hence the Swallow not being taken over." Premier Inn owner Whitbread held the lease on the swallow hotel. There spent millions covering the cost of the lease agreement so it remained the bigger player in the Towns hotel market. There agreed to give the lease(I would guess on terms it will not be used as a hotel for set period of time.)

The aim is to redevelop the Swallow building into accommodation for about 130 students. plus other uses on lower levels of the building.
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Bobby_Braithwaite Posted on 13/07/2017 18:45

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HB

My mind isn't made up, I fortunately/thankfully don't live within the boundary. I'm merely asking questions that I would have thought council tax payers are asking.

"Other hotels have been expanded and new hotels are getting built now" - not with council tax payers money though. I'm not sure that those booking the Hilton would consider a Premier Inn comparable in either standard or what's on offer.
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myfooty Posted on 13/07/2017 20:02
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("Other hotels have been expanded and new hotels are getting built now" )"- not with council tax payers money though." It not getting built with council tax payers money. The council are using a business loan and will own the hotel.

Middlesbrough Council took a business loan and then loaned the money to owners of the Holiday Inn in Middlesbrough town Centre. In total Middlesbrough council has loaned them around £7 million. This has been very successful and loan is being paid back with interest.

"I'm not sure that those booking the Hilton would consider a Premier Inn comparable in either standard or what's on offer." That is why the Stockton On Tees council have chosen to own a Hilton Group hotel instead of premier Inn hotel.

Link: http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/teesside-news/ho
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HezBurra Posted on 13/07/2017 20:09

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I think what he is saying is that a Hilton and a premier inn arent the same market, so the business model re demand doesn't work. People wanting a premier inn wouldn't book a Hilton. But it's a Hampton by Hilton, it's a mid point in their range, comparable with but supppsedly superior to the premier inn.
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myfooty Posted on 13/07/2017 20:48

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That is the point new hotel will fill a gap in the market.
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Ticker_Tape Posted on 13/07/2017 20:58

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Big thing for the town, should see the opening of some bars and restaurants nearby.

Be the centre for Teesside along with the Arc the Forum and Middlessbrough town hall when it's done[^]

Looking forward to nipping on a bus down the town to watch some big gigs.
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myfooty Posted on 13/07/2017 21:06

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Hilton Reveals First Look of New Hotel in Stockton-on-Tees
Hampton by Hilton Marks its Arrival in the Tees Valley

Hampton by Hilton Stockton-on-Tees will be Hilton's first hotel in the town, and will be owned and developed by Stockton-on-Tees Borough Council. Situated on Church Road, the new hotel will have 125 guest rooms, a 24-hour fitness suite and contemporary meeting space

STOCKTON-ON-TEES, UK and MCLEAN, Va. - Hilton (NSYE: HLT) today revealed a first look at its new hotel proposed for Stockton-on-Tees, in the North East of England.

Subject to receipt of planning permission, the town centre property - under Hilton's economy Hampton by Hilton brand - is expected to welcome its first guests in early 2018. Detailed plans for the new hotel will be submitted for planning consideration later this month.

Patrick Fitzgibbon, senior vice president, development, EMEA, Hilton said: "Nearly 60 UK towns and cities are now home to one of our hotels. Widely available in the UK, Hampton by Hilton taps into the need for modern hotel accommodation to suit a variety of travel needs.

"Stockton Borough Council's ambition and the award-winning regeneration of the nearby High Street are extremely impressive. With companies including Tata, Axa, United Biscuits, Virgin Media and Fujifilm all located in the vicinity, we expect the new hotel to lead the market when it opens in 2018."

Hampton by Hilton Stockton-on-Tees will be Hilton's first hotel in the town, and will be owned and developed by Stockton-on-Tees Borough Council. Situated on Church Road, the new hotel will have 125 guest rooms, a 24-hour fitness suite and contemporary meeting space.

Leader of Stockton-on-Tees Borough Council, Councillor Bob Cook, said: "We're delighted to be working with such a famous global name and know there is an incredibly strong business case for this hotel.

"The proposed hotel is a key piece in the jigsaw for the regeneration of Stockton town centre and an economic impact assessment estimates this kind of internationally renowned hotel would be a huge asset, bringing in £6.7million per year into the local economy and creating around 100 jobs for local people."

The Council's Cabinet Member for Regeneration and Transport, Councillor Nigel Cooke, added: "We are very ambitious for the Borough and Stockton-on-Tees is very much open for business.

"In Stockton High Street, we've got an award-winning public space and exciting projects like the hotel, Globe restoration and Georgian Theatre, combined with our superb events programme, are about creating assets and attractions to take things to the next level."

The site of the proposed new hotel forms part of the mixed-use Northshore regeneration scheme, which incorporates new offices, homes and leisure facilities within walking distance of the newly regenerated Stockton town centre. The 56-acre, £300million scheme is a partnership between Muse Developments, the Homes and Communities Agency and Stockton-on-Tees Borough Council.

Stockton-on-Tees has been subject to significant regeneration, thanks to the Council, Tees Valley Combined Authority and Local Enterprise Partnership. Tees Valley will deliver an additional 25,000 new jobs and add an extra £2.8 billion into the local economy by 2026.

Hampton by Hilton Stockton-on-Tees will be located Church Road, Stockton-on-Tees.


Link: http://news.hampton.com/index.cfm/news/hilton-reve
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Cleveleyssmoggie Posted on 06/12/2018 13:56

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Turning into Trigger’s brush.

Link: Link.
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DCI_Gene_Hunt Posted on 06/12/2018 14:49

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Having spoken to people who've been officially shown around recently 2020 is optimistic.
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myfooty Posted on 06/12/2018 15:07
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The Globe project delays and raising costs are the main reason you see very restorations of these historic theatres and similar Grade II-listed buildings.

The project has been a real money pit.

People are keen to keep these old buildings but you have question if the £20 million would have been better spent knocking it down and building a multi purpose venue for Sports, concerts, shows, exhibitions and conferences.
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TheFair86 Posted on 06/12/2018 15:22

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They can’t win though - if they knocked it down they’d be vilified as they have been other buildings that were in disrepair.

People are just moaning fannies.
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Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 06/12/2018 15:55
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Tribute bands, new bands and old bands on the slide. The venue isn't big enough for the level of bands it hosted decades ago.

The old gigs didn't make money, they were used to promote new albums and were relatively cheap.
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myfooty Posted on 06/12/2018 15:59
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(They can’t win though - if they knocked it down they’d be vilified as they have been other buildings that were in disrepair.

People are just moaning fannies.)

TheFair86

I agree with that point. People were moaning about Stockton Council demolishing Corporation Hall.

It looks like big changes could be on the way.

"Stockton Council cabinet will vote on whether to approve the borrowing of £30m next week to buy up "key sites and assets" in the borough's town centres of Billingham, Thornaby and Yarm - as well as Stockton.

And the authority says it will also request use of existing funds to demolish the former Glam Nightclub and Post Office buildings on Stockton High Street."


Link: https://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/teesside-news/e
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Corcaigh_the_Cat Posted on 06/12/2018 16:06

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They're 'having a go'. I'd sooner see public funds spent this way than throw it at the likes of Peel.
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DCI_Gene_Hunt Posted on 06/12/2018 17:23

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" throw it at the likes of Peel."

What does that mean, lost me....
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aweeboro Posted on 06/12/2018 17:46

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Fully agree my footy. But really talking £35m for a multi purpose arena style venue holding 6500k. Stops and starts and is currently on hold. However it is the operator who would provide much of the finance and who would draw most of the profit for 35year lease.
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Jonny_Rondos_Disco_pants Posted on 06/12/2018 17:48

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Dci - he’s talking about dtv airport deal
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