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red61 Posted on 19/05/2017 17:51
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hi,
i paid a £200.(bank transfer) deposit into a guys account for a chartered boat fishing trip for 10 of us, the guy cancels the day before the due date saying he has had a death in the family,he promises to pay my deposit back (bank transfer) i've rang him daily & he makes excuses like he put it in wrong account etc & his bank will sort it, 1 week on im told by another boat skipper that this guys boat hasnt been in the water for weeks?? (the death in the family excuse is less believable now)....any idea if my bank can get my cash back? i have his name/num/bank account details,or have i been done like a kipper?
(tried ringing my bank dozens of times but held in queue,s for ever, bank shut when i finish work)
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Exiled_in_Herford Posted on 19/05/2017 17:57

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It's basically theft, I'd call the police after giving him a time scale to pay it back, say 5pm Tues.
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TheFair86 Posted on 19/05/2017 17:57

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If you've done it direct to his account I can't see your bank helping. either track the dude down and confront him, or give him a message that he's got 5 days to refund before you contact police for fraud, then do so.
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kieronjames1 Posted on 19/05/2017 17:58
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You're screwed, its a civil matter, small claims court if he's got money/assets. If you'd paid by card you'd have likely been protected. Bad news
Edit. Highly unlikely to get a police force interested tbh.
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Ingleby_Flash Posted on 19/05/2017 18:08
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Sock of shít through the letter box.
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billeeee Posted on 19/05/2017 18:15

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It might be worth ringing your bank. Years ago a credit card company asked me for a payment that I paid for by cheque, and at the same time they also took it out of my bank acc via a (we thought defunct) Direct Debit set-up.
I called the bank and old them, and they said they would quite simply pull the money back from where it was sent and it seemed like a really easy/normal event to them. Worth a try.
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Sadgit Posted on 19/05/2017 18:24

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Just call your bank, keep trying. Surely they are open Saturdays?
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red61 Posted on 19/05/2017 19:24

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update....bin on phone to my bank fraud dept for 50+mins, they will try to retrieve my £200 payment from his bank, but obviously they cant guarantee it...

everything is crossed...

(i would love to have an address for this scum-bag but unfortunately i dont) ;)
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RichyNotSoRich Posted on 19/05/2017 20:29

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Red what's the name of boat ?is it out of Whitby or hartlepool
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red61 Posted on 19/05/2017 21:37

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great escape, hartlepool

(names ironic)
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Brunners Posted on 19/05/2017 21:40

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Burn his boat out.Whats the confusion[rle]
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jcjc Posted on 19/05/2017 22:02

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find this disgusting has the boat found the bottom yet
hope you get some joy
will post skipper on angling websites
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norfolkred1 Posted on 19/05/2017 22:08

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Could this be das boot

Link: Is this the fella
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red61 Posted on 19/05/2017 22:16

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Thats the one
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norfolkred1 Posted on 19/05/2017 22:27

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Seems to have loadsa good reviews but anyone can do that though. Could be a 'Pay up or we'll take it away' job
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red61 Posted on 19/05/2017 22:49

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looking at his calendar he still has bookings, yet ive bin told by another skipper that the boat is out of the water??
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Leatherneck Posted on 20/05/2017 08:08
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As you stated you paid by bank transfer your bank will not step in to help. You have paid the person effectively cash and even though you have not received any goods you have no rights to claim back via the bank, I am very surprised that your bank said they will try and claim the money back.
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TSB1 Posted on 20/05/2017 08:48

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What he has done to you and intends to do to the others who have booked trips, is fraud.
The police have a duty to investigate.

Call them and get some pressure on the sneaky XXXXXX.
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Harbottle Posted on 20/05/2017 08:49

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Tell him to pay up or there really will be a death in he family
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joseph99 Posted on 20/05/2017 09:00

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Any email exchanges or receipt for the £200?
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GazC_MFC Posted on 20/05/2017 09:11

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The guy could be genuine, he could have sent it to the wrong account, and you don't know how the death in the family has effected him

That said he has a duty to pay you even if he sent it to the wrong account so just apply a little pressure re police
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kieronjames1 Posted on 20/05/2017 10:22

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The police hardly look into some burglaries nowadays. Unless you can prove intent and that will be difficult if he's got a boat for hire I doubt the police will get too involved. Your bank will contact his, they write to him asking if he wishes to return the money but there's not much else that can do. Its up to his "good nature" if he's any. I've been down this route myself previously, PITA.
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starvin_marvin Posted on 20/05/2017 10:29

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I've had similar experience from buying something from Gumtree, was assured the item was in the post etc had phone number and bank details of the seller but nothing the bank or police could do. Was advised to go through the action fraud channel but as has been mentioned they only try to appeal to better nature of the seller. XXXXXXs trick ripping people off really is.
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red61 Posted on 20/05/2017 11:00

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ive got dozens of txt msg from him, stating "thanks, 100 cash gone in, need another 100 tmro" etc? also txts from him apologising for putting money in wrong account, due to the death of his grandma & his head in bits? believed him at first but now he's not answering my calls i take it the excuses are all BULL SHHIT [rle]
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red61 Posted on 20/05/2017 11:59
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just rang the guy, had to leave voicemail asking him to do a 2nd transfer to my bank immediately, then claim his other transfer back from his bank, 10 seconds after ending the call i receive a txt saying, "sorry mate im driving but my dad will put the money into my account today & i will transfer it to your account"???
now to write out that txt in seconds...whilst driving... is pretty impressive [rle]
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red61 Posted on 20/05/2017 14:04

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just spoke to my bank who requested the money back from his bank....unfortunately theres nothing in his account?

next step, ploice station.
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mooghead Posted on 20/05/2017 14:10

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The facebook page the above site links too seems to be non existent.....
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billybob Posted on 20/05/2017 15:23

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Phone the Police.

If he has taken your money knowing that he can't or won't supply the service and that he doesn't intend to refund you then it's fraud is it not? Obtaining money by deception?

Thing is if he's done it to you then he'll have probably done it to half a dozen others as well. In which case I'm sure the Police would be interested.

Once you report it as a crime and get a crime reference number then your bank should also reimburse you as well.
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Kingy Posted on 20/05/2017 16:22

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basic rule number one is don't transfer money direct into bank accounts - there is absolutely no protection, anyone asking you to do that from a web contact is highly likely to be fully aware of the difficulties you will have if you try to get your money back - i.e it's a big red flag saying this is probably fraudeulent
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red61 Posted on 20/05/2017 17:24

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the reason i transferred the cash to him is, after i emailed him about hiring his boat for the day (after reading all good reviews via CB-UK site) he rang me to finalise date/details, even telling me he will supply the bait etc asking me to pay £200 bank transfer to secure the booking & another £250 cash on the day of the boat trip...call be gullible? but he sounded like a realy nice bloke?
ive been to police station today, they say at this moment in time, im only assuming he aint going to refund my deposit?? the fact that he hasnt actually said..."i aint paying you"?
again, the police pointed out, im acting on hearsay that his boat is out of water with no solid proof?
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joseph99 Posted on 20/05/2017 17:28

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Not quite the COD you were expecting [;)]
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OPEO Posted on 20/05/2017 17:46

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Fake site?
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Cosmonaut Posted on 20/05/2017 18:05

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Ah, similar thing happened to me a few year back.

I often buy guitar amps off Gumtree, and a guy on there was selling a rare one i'd been looking for for a long time ..

He sounded like he knew his stuff on the phone and offered me to go around the house to try it, but he was too far away, so arranged courier to collect the amp and paid him the £600 he was selling it for ..

Amp never turned up and he give me a tracking code for Royal Mail - which don't even do parcels that size!

Police came around to ask me a few questions but there's nothing you can do about getting your money back if the guy has just disappeared with the money in most cases, sadly. As you sent the money directly yourself through a bank transfer etc, it is classed as your own responsibility .. Paypal is the only secure cash payment system i know of.

It's an absolute nightmare. Absolute scumbags out there. [V][V][V]
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